Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 15 Messages in 7 Topics

[bellemarco]

Mike,

I checked your family in 1920 censusit says Maria is married (not a  
widow, so either she did not know he died or he moved away)William is 1  
year old and they live on Rockland Street, S. Dartmouth. Joseph Pine's 1917  
WWI Draft Registration record says he is living on Rockland St. South  
Dartmouth. Correction, it says he has a throat "affection" whatever that  
means? Since he only lists a wife (no name) and lists no children and Wm.  
was born in 1918, it is possible this is him. Interesting Mary was  
bookkeeper at Col. Green Estate. A few years back, my cousin got married on  
a private beach in the area and we could see the Col. Green Estate from the  
beach.


"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 15 Messages in 7 Topics

["E" Sharp]

Mike,

I found this on Ancestry.com.  I can forward the original to your personal
email address from them if you would like.  Let me know.  I have the St.
John's Cemetery book.  I have been looking to see if he is buried there..if
he was and did not have a stone, he would not be in the book..there is a
Pinheiro no names or dates in the St. Paul section.  There is a Joseph T.
Pine, Jr. 1916-1920 (could this be a son) in St. Isabel & St. Agnes
section.  You can call St. John's in New Bedford and they can give you the
info on this child and who is buried unnamed in the St. Paul Section.
Before St. John's, most Portuguese were buried at St. Mary's Cemetery (FYI
after St. John's was built several families had their loved ones moved from
St. Mary's to St. John's).  I will search this one Jose Pinheiro with the
throat affliction further and see if I can find any more on him.  If/When
you call the cemeteries, be very nice when you call and ask for the info
and they will usually oblige.  If he came to the US after 1910 and died
before 1920, he would not be in any US census records, not sure if MA has
State census in between.

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 15 Messages in 7 Topics

[Michael Gilfilian]

To "E" where did you find this info on the Jose Pinheiro's? I'm leaning
towards the one living in S. Dartmouth with the throat affliction because
that is where my 2nd grt grandpa built his home on Rockland street. Yes we
are absolutely positive he died shortly after my grandpa was born in 1918,
my grandmother who is still alive and in very good condition and a cousin
who was old enough to know more of the family and shares the same side of
the family tree also says that he died very young. There is some belief Joe
Pines middle initial was "F" but I can't be positive...Mike

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:15 AM,  wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
>
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/azores/topics
>
>- surnames <#1372b168841c1bdc_group_thread_0> [1 Update]
>- great grandpa help <#1372b168841c1bdc_group_thread_1> [3 Updates]
>- CCA Web Site update (it MOVED) <#1372b168841c1bdc_group_thread_2> [1
>Update]
>- New Topic. Differance in first names<#1372b168841c1bdc_group_thread_3>[2 
> Updates]
>- can someone help reading a record? <#1372b168841c1bdc_group_thread_4>[3 
> Updates]
>- Francisco Pereira & Rosa Vicente- Sao 
> Miguel<#1372b168841c1bdc_group_thread_5>[4 Updates]
>- Manuel Cunha Pacheco in Providence, 
> RI<#1372b168841c1bdc_group_thread_6>[1 Update]
>
>   surnames 
>
>Cheri Mello  May 07 09:13PM -0700
>
>Yes there are a few that cluster more than others. Bettencourt is found
>more often in the central island group, for example. As for Silva,
>it's all
>over the place.
>
>
>
>   great grandpa help
>
>Mike  May 07 06:55AM -0700
>
>I would like to ask for some help with finding my great grandfather.
>We
>believe his name was Jose(Joseph) Pinheiro(Pine) based on what my
>grandma
>who's still living tells me. He was married to my great grandma Maria
>Pereira(Perry) we believe between 1916/1918 based on when my grandpa
>William Francis Pine was born on 2/16/1918.
>Joe Pine died before 1920 because he is not listed on the census of
>1920
>when my great grandma moved back home to new bedford to her mom and
>dads
>home.
>My grandma believes Joe Pine was aprox 23 when he died and she
>believes it
>was in California, We believe that Maria and Jose got married in
>California
>because my grandma said she followed Joe Pine out there.
>Anything the group can help with would greatly appreciate, if more
>information is needed so you can help I can try and find it for you.
>Thanks Ahead,
>Mike
>
>
>
>
>bellema...@gmail.com May 07 04:51PM
>
>Mike,
>
>There is a Joe C. Pine WWI Draft Registration Record (1917) living in
>Alameda County CA. He was born April 14, 1892 in Fayal, Azores. He had
>a
>wife named Rose. There is a 1951 Naturalization Card for this Joseph
>Correia Pine in Newark CA. Here it says he was born April 14, 1892.
>There
>is a Joseph Pine b. April 23, 1894 living in South Dartmouth in 1917
>also
>b. in Fayal. It says he has a thoat affliction and he was working at
>the
>Gosnold Mills. It says he is married. There's a Joseph Pine b. Sept.
>15,
>1892 in Sao Miguel, Azores, living in New Bedford in 1917 but his one
>says
>he is single.
>
>There are several Jose Pinheiro Draft Registration Records living in
>CA/MA.
>
>Then there is this ship's listName: Jose S Pinheiro
>Age: 19
>Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
>Birthplace: Salao?, Fayal Azores
>Gender: Male
>Ethnic Background: Portuguese
>Arrival Date: 12 Sep 1912
>Port of Arrival: Providence, Rhode Island
>Port of Departure: Horta, Fayal, Azores, Portugal
>Ship Name: Roma
>Leaving his father Manuel Furtado da Rosa, Salao, Fayal, Azores- going
>to
>his brother in law Luiz Lopes, Providence RI
>
>Do you know if he had a middle name? How sure are you that he died?
>Maybe
>she just left him and returned home? I just helped a girl with her
>ancestor
>and a few months ago she found out he had a 2nd family back East
>before he
>married her ggrandmother. She said he never spoke of this first wife
>and
>children. You can imagine she was elated to find her new found family.
>
>"E"
>
>
>
>
>Robin Lebo  May 07 07:28PM -0500
>
>Dear Mike,
>
>I went into find a grave and found a Manuel Joseph Pine b 1893, d
>1914. His find a grave number is 88554320. This is at the Holy Ghost
>Cemetery, Fremont, Alameda County, California. Plot: Row 18. It says it
>shares the stone with Frank. I went to the Frank Pine in the same cemetery,
>but I could not find which Frank it was. the Frank Pine listed had others
>in that area but not the same plot. I found others, Pine, Joe and Joseph,
>but none had died before 1920.
>This might b