Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA

[Gordon soares]

Me too…
Gordon

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> Ditto for me!
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> On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 8:27 PM Elaine Mello  <mailto:emello1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> thanks for the head's up on this, Cheri.
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> All done on my end. 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA

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Did mine and all the accounts I manage.

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Ditto for me!

MaryAnn

On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 8:27 PM Elaine Mello  wrote:

thanks for the head's up on this, Cheri.

All done on my end.  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA

[MaryAnn Santos]

Ditto for me!

MaryAnn

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA

[Elaine Mello]

thanks for the head's up on this, Cheri.

All done on my end.  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA

[Cheri Mello]

Here's the paternal grandfather. Yours may vary.

The first 2 are from a drop down menu (with the red checkmarks). The top
one, I started typing "Portuguese" and it came up. The 2nd question, I
started typing Portugal and it had a variety, so I picked basic Portugal,
because the Azores (and Madeira) belonged to Portugal. The 3rd part (with
no check mark) was where I got to put my specific input. So I put Azores
there and gave them the island. I'm not sure that they'll go that far with
it though.

[image: image.png]
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 4:59 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Because the Azores, nor Madeira are countries. Portugal is the country.
> You put Azores under "Other Group Affliate Details." I put "Born in Azores,
> Sao Miguel island."
>
> I'll do another one and screen shot it.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 4:56 PM Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
>> This is great except that they are not allowing Azores, Portugal, Azores
>> Island, Portugal just Portugal!!! Still is not going to show our correct
>> spot on the Portuguese ladder!!
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 4:32 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes lists)
>>>
>>> A few years back (about 2013-2014), Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) did a
>>> survey, asking for background information which they then incorporated into
>>> their ethnicity estimates. Only 25 people of Portuguese descent answered.
>>> That was all. "Portuguese" then had to cover Portugal, Azores, Madeira, and
>>> Brazil. Only 25 people! And of course many people did not match those 25 in
>>> the population sample. And of course people were disappointed with their
>>> ethnicity estimates.
>>>
>>> If you would like more accurate results for the Azores, Madeira,
>>> Portugal, Brazil (or any other country), NOW is the time. Family Tree DNA
>>> has created a new Family Ancestry Survey. You need to have ordered Family
>>> Finder, transferred over to FTDNA (from Ancestry, My Heritage, 23 and Me),
>>> or you have a Family Finder test on order.
>>>
>>> 1) Open your genealogy program and have the main person be the same as
>>> the test person (I did my dad because he's half Portuguese). It helps as a
>>> reference if you are answering for someone else.
>>> 2) Log directly into the kit with the kit number and password.
>>> 3) Scroll down the left column looking for the survey and click it:
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> There are only 4 questions. And it's clunky and not intuitive.
>>>
>>> It asks which ethnicity the test taker's father's father was from. So
>>> the test taker's paternal grandfather. If you start typing "Portuguese" it
>>> will suggest "Europe - Portuguese." Then it asks for the country. The
>>> Azores nor Madeira is a country, so you pick Portugal. Then it asks for
>>> other group affiliation details. Here you can put something like "Born in
>>> the Azores, Sao Miguel island" or "Born in Madeira."
>>>
>>> It then repeats the process for the test taker's paternal grandmother,
>>> maternal grandfather, and maternal grandmother.
>>>
>>> However, if you have something that's plain old American, it becomes
>>> difficult. My dad's maternal half has been in America for a couple of
>>> hundred years (at least). So when it wants his maternal grandfather's
>>> ethnicity, that would be American. Nope, that was not an option. Neither
>>> was Caucasian. I finally picked Europe - English even though he was a blend
>>> of the British Isles (English, Irish, Scottish). For his birth place, it
>>> allowed United States of America. Then for other group affiliation details,
>>> I put "Born in Kansas."
>>>
>>> So please, Please, PLEASE answer the survey so we can have more accurate
>>> results for our corner of the world. Don't let another 5 years (or so) go
>>> by!
>>>
>>> (No, I don't know when the survey will end and they will stop collecting
>>> results.)
>>> Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA

[Cheri Mello]

Because the Azores, nor Madeira are countries. Portugal is the country. You
put Azores under "Other Group Affliate Details." I put "Born in Azores, Sao
Miguel island."

I'll do another one and screen shot it.
Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 4:56 PM Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> This is great except that they are not allowing Azores, Portugal, Azores
> Island, Portugal just Portugal!!! Still is not going to show our correct
> spot on the Portuguese ladder!!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 4:32 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes lists)
>>
>> A few years back (about 2013-2014), Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) did a survey,
>> asking for background information which they then incorporated into their
>> ethnicity estimates. Only 25 people of Portuguese descent answered. That
>> was all. "Portuguese" then had to cover Portugal, Azores, Madeira, and
>> Brazil. Only 25 people! And of course many people did not match those 25 in
>> the population sample. And of course people were disappointed with their
>> ethnicity estimates.
>>
>> If you would like more accurate results for the Azores, Madeira,
>> Portugal, Brazil (or any other country), NOW is the time. Family Tree DNA
>> has created a new Family Ancestry Survey. You need to have ordered Family
>> Finder, transferred over to FTDNA (from Ancestry, My Heritage, 23 and Me),
>> or you have a Family Finder test on order.
>>
>> 1) Open your genealogy program and have the main person be the same as
>> the test person (I did my dad because he's half Portuguese). It helps as a
>> reference if you are answering for someone else.
>> 2) Log directly into the kit with the kit number and password.
>> 3) Scroll down the left column looking for the survey and click it:
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> There are only 4 questions. And it's clunky and not intuitive.
>>
>> It asks which ethnicity the test taker's father's father was from. So the
>> test taker's paternal grandfather. If you start typing "Portuguese" it will
>> suggest "Europe - Portuguese." Then it asks for the country. The Azores nor
>> Madeira is a country, so you pick Portugal. Then it asks for other group
>> affiliation details. Here you can put something like "Born in the Azores,
>> Sao Miguel island" or "Born in Madeira."
>>
>> It then repeats the process for the test taker's paternal grandmother,
>> maternal grandfather, and maternal grandmother.
>>
>> However, if you have something that's plain old American, it becomes
>> difficult. My dad's maternal half has been in America for a couple of
>> hundred years (at least). So when it wants his maternal grandfather's
>> ethnicity, that would be American. Nope, that was not an option. Neither
>> was Caucasian. I finally picked Europe - English even though he was a blend
>> of the British Isles (English, Irish, Scottish). For his birth place, it
>> allowed United States of America. Then for other group affiliation details,
>> I put "Born in Kansas."
>>
>> So please, Please, PLEASE answer the survey so we can have more accurate
>> results for our corner of the world. Don't let another 5 years (or so) go
>> by!
>>
>> (No, I don't know when the survey will end and they will stop collecting
>> results.)
>> Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

This is great except that they are not allowing Azores, Portugal, Azores
Island, Portugal just Portugal!!! Still is not going to show our correct
spot on the Portuguese ladder!!

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 4:32 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes lists)
>
> A few years back (about 2013-2014), Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) did a survey,
> asking for background information which they then incorporated into their
> ethnicity estimates. Only 25 people of Portuguese descent answered. That
> was all. "Portuguese" then had to cover Portugal, Azores, Madeira, and
> Brazil. Only 25 people! And of course many people did not match those 25 in
> the population sample. And of course people were disappointed with their
> ethnicity estimates.
>
> If you would like more accurate results for the Azores, Madeira, Portugal,
> Brazil (or any other country), NOW is the time. Family Tree DNA has created
> a new Family Ancestry Survey. You need to have ordered Family Finder,
> transferred over to FTDNA (from Ancestry, My Heritage, 23 and Me), or you
> have a Family Finder test on order.
>
> 1) Open your genealogy program and have the main person be the same as the
> test person (I did my dad because he's half Portuguese). It helps as a
> reference if you are answering for someone else.
> 2) Log directly into the kit with the kit number and password.
> 3) Scroll down the left column looking for the survey and click it:
> [image: image.png]
>
> There are only 4 questions. And it's clunky and not intuitive.
>
> It asks which ethnicity the test taker's father's father was from. So the
> test taker's paternal grandfather. If you start typing "Portuguese" it will
> suggest "Europe - Portuguese." Then it asks for the country. The Azores nor
> Madeira is a country, so you pick Portugal. Then it asks for other group
> affiliation details. Here you can put something like "Born in the Azores,
> Sao Miguel island" or "Born in Madeira."
>
> It then repeats the process for the test taker's paternal grandmother,
> maternal grandfather, and maternal grandmother.
>
> However, if you have something that's plain old American, it becomes
> difficult. My dad's maternal half has been in America for a couple of
> hundred years (at least). So when it wants his maternal grandfather's
> ethnicity, that would be American. Nope, that was not an option. Neither
> was Caucasian. I finally picked Europe - English even though he was a blend
> of the British Isles (English, Irish, Scottish). For his birth place, it
> allowed United States of America. Then for other group affiliation details,
> I put "Born in Kansas."
>
> So please, Please, PLEASE answer the survey so we can have more accurate
> results for our corner of the world. Don't let another 5 years (or so) go
> by!
>
> (No, I don't know when the survey will end and they will stop collecting
> results.)
> Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA

[Cheri Mello]

Put plain old Portugal. Thanks!!!
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 4:50 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Ok Cher, here is where I show my total lack of knowledge.  Do I put
> Portugal of Kingdom of Portugal Algraves?  Those are the choices, plus
> Timor which I know isn’t what I want.  My grandparents were born in the
> Azores.
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>
>
> *From: *Cheri Mello 
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 29, 2019 5:32 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy ;
> madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com; islandrou...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA
>
>
>
> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes lists)
>
>
>
> A few years back (about 2013-2014), Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) did a survey,
> asking for background information which they then incorporated into their
> ethnicity estimates. Only 25 people of Portuguese descent answered. That
> was all. "Portuguese" then had to cover Portugal, Azores, Madeira, and
> Brazil. Only 25 people! And of course many people did not match those 25 in
> the population sample. And of course people were disappointed with their
> ethnicity estimates.
>
>
>
> If you would like more accurate results for the Azores, Madeira, Portugal,
> Brazil (or any other country), NOW is the time. Family Tree DNA has created
> a new Family Ancestry Survey. You need to have ordered Family Finder,
> transferred over to FTDNA (from Ancestry, My Heritage, 23 and Me), or you
> have a Family Finder test on order.
>
>
>
> 1) Open your genealogy program and have the main person be the same as the
> test person (I did my dad because he's half Portuguese). It helps as a
> reference if you are answering for someone else.
>
> 2) Log directly into the kit with the kit number and password.
>
> 3) Scroll down the left column looking for the survey and click it:
>
>
>
> There are only 4 questions. And it's clunky and not intuitive.
>
>
>
> It asks which ethnicity the test taker's father's father was from. So the
> test taker's paternal grandfather. If you start typing "Portuguese" it will
> suggest "Europe - Portuguese." Then it asks for the country. The Azores nor
> Madeira is a country, so you pick Portugal. Then it asks for other group
> affiliation details. Here you can put something like "Born in the Azores,
> Sao Miguel island" or "Born in Madeira."
>
>
>
> It then repeats the process for the test taker's paternal grandmother,
> maternal grandfather, and maternal grandmother.
>
>
>
> However, if you have something that's plain old American, it becomes
> difficult. My dad's maternal half has been in America for a couple of
> hundred years (at least). So when it wants his maternal grandfather's
> ethnicity, that would be American. Nope, that was not an option. Neither
> was Caucasian. I finally picked Europe - English even though he was a blend
> of the British Isles (English, Irish, Scottish). For his birth place, it
> allowed United States of America. Then for other group affiliation details,
> I put "Born in Kansas."
>
>
>
> So please, Please, PLEASE answer the survey so we can have more accurate
> results for our corner of the world. Don't let another 5 years (or so) go
> by!
>
>
>
> (No, I don't know when the survey will end and they will stop collecting
> results.)
>
> Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA

['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

Ok Cher, here is where I show my total lack of knowledge.  Do I put Portugal of 
Kingdom of Portugal Algraves?  Those are the choices, plus Timor which I know 
isn’t what I want.  My grandparents were born in the Azores.

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: Cheri Mello
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 5:32 PM
To: Azores Genealogy; madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com; 
islandrou...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes lists)

A few years back (about 2013-2014), Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) did a survey, 
asking for background information which they then incorporated into their 
ethnicity estimates. Only 25 people of Portuguese descent answered. That was 
all. "Portuguese" then had to cover Portugal, Azores, Madeira, and Brazil. Only 
25 people! And of course many people did not match those 25 in the population 
sample. And of course people were disappointed with their ethnicity estimates.

If you would like more accurate results for the Azores, Madeira, Portugal, 
Brazil (or any other country), NOW is the time. Family Tree DNA has created a 
new Family Ancestry Survey. You need to have ordered Family Finder, transferred 
over to FTDNA (from Ancestry, My Heritage, 23 and Me), or you have a Family 
Finder test on order.

1) Open your genealogy program and have the main person be the same as the test 
person (I did my dad because he's half Portuguese). It helps as a reference if 
you are answering for someone else.
2) Log directly into the kit with the kit number and password.
3) Scroll down the left column looking for the survey and click it:


There are only 4 questions. And it's clunky and not intuitive.

It asks which ethnicity the test taker's father's father was from. So the test 
taker's paternal grandfather. If you start typing "Portuguese" it will suggest 
"Europe - Portuguese." Then it asks for the country. The Azores nor Madeira is 
a country, so you pick Portugal. Then it asks for other group affiliation 
details. Here you can put something like "Born in the Azores, Sao Miguel 
island" or "Born in Madeira."

It then repeats the process for the test taker's paternal grandmother, maternal 
grandfather, and maternal grandmother.

However, if you have something that's plain old American, it becomes difficult. 
My dad's maternal half has been in America for a couple of hundred years (at 
least). So when it wants his maternal grandfather's ethnicity, that would be 
American. Nope, that was not an option. Neither was Caucasian. I finally picked 
Europe - English even though he was a blend of the British Isles (English, 
Irish, Scottish). For his birth place, it allowed United States of America. 
Then for other group affiliation details, I put "Born in Kansas."

So please, Please, PLEASE answer the survey so we can have more accurate 
results for our corner of the world. Don't let another 5 years (or so) go by!

(No, I don't know when the survey will end and they will stop collecting 
results.)
Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
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