Re: [backstage] BBC Programme Catalogue

2006-04-26 Thread Frank Wales
On 04/26/2006 04:59 PM, Tom Scott wrote:
> I just did a bit of vanity-searching and found out I have no less than
> four entries! I've submitted an error report (although I wish there was
> some way to mark it 'low-priority') - but it's not really something that
> could be cross-referenced easily except by me. :)

It's hard to resist looking for yourself, especially if, like me,
you have actually been on a couple of BBC programmes.  I guess my
contribution was less than epsilon, however, since I'm not in there,
and it would seem to be bad form to ask to be added. :-)

> Oddly, "Doctor Who" is filed under "Dr Who", but it's an absolutely
> exhaustive list of Doctor Who stuff. I just wish I could think of
> something to do with it!

I think I spent about four minutes resisting a search for
Doctor Who stuff; but then, I found that:

 + both 'Christopher Eccleston' and 'Christopher Ecclestone' are
   listed in relation to the series

 + only the new series seems to be listed under 'science fiction'

 + the only programmes aired in 2006 are all called 'The green death'

 + the Paul McGann episode is listed with the title '27 May 1996'

 + 'Bad Wolf' is not a subject category

Meanwhile, in other news, the gap between the first and
second editions of 'Grandstand' is apparently 28 years,
which must be some kind of a record (assuming it's not duff data).
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[backstage] RE: BBC conference request

2006-04-26 Thread Jeremy Stone
Hi Backstage List



We've a couple of last minute spaces available for the chance to
participate in the BBC conference below (see original email below).
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/misc/digitalassassins.doc

There's a small fee, lunch and a chance to watch the BBC's new
interactive World Service radio 
programme broadcast live from the conference.
http://blogs.bbc.co.uk/worldhaveyoursay/
If you available to be in London for the afternoon of Wednesday May 3rd
then please download the form above. (it has full details about what to
do).

Thanks
Jem, bbc.co.uk



> -Original Message-
> From: Jeremy Stone 
> Sent: 05 April 2006 16:07
> To: 'backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk'
> Subject: BBC conference request
> 
> Hi Backstage list
> 
> This is a favour. 
> 
> The BBC is looking for people to help take part in a session 
> at a conference we are hosting on May 3rd. The only criteria 
> to take part are that you are over 16, talkative, a 
> passionate user of digital media (sorry we here at the the 
> BBC love that phrase) and available to be in West London for 
> that Wednesday afternoon from 2pm.
> 
> The focus off the session is about the "new ways" that people 
> create and consume news in all its flavours. So if you get 
> most of your news from Digg, Boing Boing and Slashdot then we 
> want to hear from you. Don't worry if you listen to Radio 4 
> and read a newspaper from time to time then that's ok too. 
> 
> You will receive a small fee, lunch, and the chance to sit in 
> on the conference for the last 2 sessions including the 
> ability to see the BBC's new interactive World Service radio 
> programme broadcast live from the conference.
> http://blogs.bbc.co.uk/worldhaveyoursay/
> 
> If you are interested then please download and fill out this 
> short form. We'll look through the docs and we'll get in 
> touch. Please feel free to pass on this request to anybody 
> that you feel might be interested.
> 
> http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/misc/digitalassassins.doc  (It's a 
> word document...sorry.It has full details about what to do if 
> you're tempted)
> 
> Thanks for listening.
> 
> 
> Jem, backstage.bbc.co.uk
> 

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Re: [backstage] BBC Programme Catalogue

2006-04-26 Thread Tom Scott
I just did a bit of vanity-searching and found out I have no less than 
four entries! I've submitted an error report (although I wish there was 
some way to mark it 'low-priority') - but it's not really something that 
could be cross-referenced easily except by me. :)


Oddly, "Doctor Who" is filed under "Dr Who", but it's an absolutely 
exhaustive list of Doctor Who stuff. I just wish I could think of 
something to do with it!


Graeme Mulvaney wrote:

wll as long as you could keep it clean - it's the meticulous indexing that
makes it such a great resource.

On 4/26/06, Tom Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

we could open it up to a new class of data - additions from users

outside of news, many of the programme descriptions are non-existant,
and the contributor details wrong/incomplete.

i like the idea of a collision between bottom up and top down metadata
- it's not like we can't differentiate between sources of metadata, so
you'll always be able to get BBC-derived stuff

On 26/04/06, Graeme Mulvaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

That is awesome - the detail in the news headlines and stuff like the

money

programme and countryfile is fantastic - please can you add it in to
backstage - it's a brilliant - just keep the tagging and indexing

in-house,

don't open it up and let the rest of the World contaminate it - it's

pretty

thorough as it is - well done :D



On 4/26/06, Tom Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Live now

http://open.bbc.co.uk/catalogue

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 Hi Dave

I'm sure Tom L will be on later to reveal more but yep, the online

BBC

programme catalogue is going to be released/announced tomorrow.

Jem, bbc.co.uk


sometime this afternoon. it's very, erm, experimental.


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Re: [backstage] BBC Programme Catalogue

2006-04-26 Thread Graeme Mulvaney
wll as long as you could keep it clean - it's the meticulous indexing that makes it such a great resource.
On 4/26/06, Tom Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
we could open it up to a new class of data - additions from usersoutside of news, many of the programme descriptions are non-existant,
and the contributor details wrong/incomplete.i like the idea of a collision between bottom up and top down metadata- it's not like we can't differentiate between sources of metadata, soyou'll always be able to get BBC-derived stuff
On 26/04/06, Graeme Mulvaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> That is awesome - the detail in the news headlines and stuff like the money> programme and countryfile is fantastic - please can you add it in to
> backstage - it's a brilliant - just keep the tagging and indexing in-house,> don't open it up and let the rest of the World contaminate it - it's pretty> thorough as it is - well done :D>
>>> On 4/26/06, Tom Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Live now> >> > 
http://open.bbc.co.uk/catalogue> >> > -Original Message-> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Loosemore> > Sent: 26 April 2006 08:15> > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk> > Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC Programme Catalogue
> >> > >  Hi Dave> > >> > >I'm sure Tom L will be on later to reveal more but yep, the online BBC> > >programme catalogue is going to be released/announced tomorrow.
> > >> > >Jem, bbc.co.uk> > >> >> > sometime this afternoon. it's very, erm, experimental.> >> > 
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Re: [backstage] BBC Programme Catalogue

2006-04-26 Thread Tom Loosemore
we could open it up to a new class of data - additions from users

outside of news, many of the programme descriptions are non-existant,
and the contributor details wrong/incomplete.

i like the idea of a collision between bottom up and top down metadata
- it's not like we can't differentiate between sources of metadata, so
you'll always be able to get BBC-derived stuff

On 26/04/06, Graeme Mulvaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That is awesome - the detail in the news headlines and stuff like the money
> programme and countryfile is fantastic - please can you add it in to
> backstage - it's a brilliant - just keep the tagging and indexing in-house,
> don't open it up and let the rest of the World contaminate it - it's pretty
> thorough as it is - well done :D
>
>
>
> On 4/26/06, Tom Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Live now
> >
> > http://open.bbc.co.uk/catalogue
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Loosemore
> > Sent: 26 April 2006 08:15
> > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC Programme Catalogue
> >
> > >  Hi Dave
> > >
> > >I'm sure Tom L will be on later to reveal more but yep, the online BBC
> > >programme catalogue is going to be released/announced tomorrow.
> > >
> > >Jem, bbc.co.uk
> > >
> >
> > sometime this afternoon. it's very, erm, experimental.
> >
> > 
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Re: [backstage] BBC Programme Catalogue

2006-04-26 Thread Frank Wales
On 04/26/2006 03:05 PM, I inadvertently echoed Dave in asking:
> Is this still implemented using Ruby-on-Rails?

Looks like this is answered on Matt's blog:
  http://www.hackdiary.com/archives/81.html
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Re: [backstage] BBC Programme Catalogue

2006-04-26 Thread Frank Wales
On 04/26/2006 02:01 PM, Tom Loosemore wrote:
> Live now
> 
> http://open.bbc.co.uk/catalogue  

Jings, that's a lot of details.  Is this still implemented using Ruby-on-Rails?

Minor bug: the 'Catalogue Mashups' link on the bottom of each page is broken:

  http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/prototypes/catalogue

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Re: [backstage] BBC Programme Catalogue

2006-04-26 Thread Graeme Mulvaney
That is awesome - the detail in the news headlines and stuff like the money programme and countryfile is fantastic - please can you add it in to backstage - it's a brilliant - just keep the tagging and indexing in-house, don't open it up and let the rest of the World contaminate it - it's pretty thorough as it is - well done :D
 
On 4/26/06, Tom Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Live nowhttp://open.bbc.co.uk/catalogue-Original Message-
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Sent: 26 April 2006 08:15To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.ukSubject: RE: [backstage] BBC Programme Catalogue>  Hi Dave>>I'm sure Tom L will be on later to reveal more but yep, the online BBC
>programme catalogue is going to be released/announced tomorrow.>>Jem, bbc.co.uk>sometime this afternoon. it's very, erm, experimental.
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[backstage] BBC Homepage Competition

2006-04-26 Thread Tom Loosemore



later today (when Ben's woken up - he's in 
Montreal)


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Catalogue

'The BBC is also running a competition to revamp the bbc.co.uk 2.0 website, asking the public to redesign 
the homepage to "exploit the fuctionality and usability of services such as 
Flickr, YouTube, Technorati and Wikipedia".'  
competition ?
 
On 4/25/06, Gordon 
Joly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,1761085,00.html 
  Highfield: refocusing BBC digital output around three concepts 
  -share, find and playThe BBC today unveiled radical plans to 
  rebuild its website arounduser-generated content, including blogs and home 
  videos, with the aim of creating a public service version of 
  MySpace.com.Hey?? Great idea! Why not call it something like... 
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RE: [backstage] BBC Programme Catalogue

2006-04-26 Thread Tom Loosemore
Live now

http://open.bbc.co.uk/catalogue  

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>  Hi Dave
>
>I'm sure Tom L will be on later to reveal more but yep, the online BBC 
>programme catalogue is going to be released/announced tomorrow.
>
>Jem, bbc.co.uk
>

sometime this afternoon. it's very, erm, experimental.


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Re: [backstage] BBC Programme Catalogue

2006-04-26 Thread Graeme Mulvaney
'The BBC is also running a competition to revamp the bbc.co.uk 2.0 website, asking the public to redesign the homepage to "exploit the fuctionality and usability of services such as Flickr, YouTube, Technorati and Wikipedia".'
 
competition ?
 
On 4/25/06, Gordon Joly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,1761085,00.html
Highfield: refocusing BBC digital output around three concepts -share, find and playThe BBC today unveiled radical plans to rebuild its website arounduser-generated content, including blogs and home videos, with the aim
of creating a public service version of MySpace.com.Hey?? Great idea! Why not call it something like... "The BBC Networking Club"?Gordo--"Think Feynman"/
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RE: [backstage] BBC Programme Catalogue

2006-04-26 Thread Tom Loosemore

 Hi Dave

I'm sure Tom L will be on later to reveal more but yep, the online BBC
programme catalogue is going to be released/announced tomorrow.

Jem, bbc.co.uk



sometime this afternoon. it's very, erm, experimental.


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