RE: [backstage] BarCampLondon2 signup now live

2007-01-23 Thread Gordon Joly

At 15:03 + 23/1/07, Ian Forrester wrote:

 > http://www.flickr.com/photos/loopzilla/366989638/

http://www.cubicgarden.com/blojsom/blog/cubicgarden/socialsoftware/offline/2007/01/23/BarCampLondon2-the-first-wave-of-signups.html

Enjoy,


:)

Fame at last!


:-)

Gordo


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Re: [backstage] DRM

2007-01-23 Thread Tom Loosemore

On 23/01/07, Richard P Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Vijay,

Believe it.. I can hear the clunky wheels starting up.

"From the halls of the British Corporation.. yes we need DRM to satisfy
the owners of the work that is to be re-produced, without it we could never
get a licence, or the content etc.etc.etc.."

DRM doesn't exist on my planet... but then nor does BBC TV according to
the BBC. Talk about restricting culture, it seems at every level. I don't
believe that DRM is to stop the customer or help the original Rights
owner. but it sure allows some control factor from the distributor.
It will be interesting to see why anyone believes that it is needed on BBC
products. :-)
RichE



http://www.lllj.net/blog/archives/2006/01/06/how-can-drm-be-good/#comment-7373

for "anyone" insert "the tens of thousands of rights holders who
actually own the on demand rights to programmes the BBC has broadcast"

in the short term the choice is this: offer very little on demand, or use DRM

a horrible choice, but the choice the BBC faces
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Re: [backstage] DRM

2007-01-23 Thread Nic James Ferrier
"vijay chopra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I notice that the Beeb is going to put Digital restrictions management in
> it's upcoming online, TV on demand service via iPlayer:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6290745.stm
>
> "For this reason it has recommended that the BBC's on-demand service reduces
> from 13 weeks the planned amount of time that users could keep downloaded
> programmes."
>
> Not only that, but Ofcom wants to make the DRM tighter, so we have access to
> our own media for even less time! What planet are these people on, what
> would have happened if they were around when we first started printing
> books? My guess is this:
> http://www.pingwales.co.uk/2007/01/18/Chisnall-DRM.html
>
> Seriously guys why the need for DRM, I've only just reconciled myself that
> I'm not going to get radio in ogg format, and will have to put up with real
> player as long as I want Radio on demand; now this?!

I feel the same.

But we've only recently discussed this haven't we? 


I think the only real solution is that we form a new organization to
make our own content. 

How about it? I'll do Come Dancing and you be Dot Cotton?

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Re: [backstage] DRM

2007-01-23 Thread Richard P Edwards

Hi Vijay,

Believe it.. I can hear the clunky wheels starting up.

"From the halls of the British Corporation.. yes we need DRM to  
satisfy the owners of the work that is to be re-produced, without it  
we could never get a licence, or the content etc.etc.etc.."


DRM doesn't exist on my planet... but then nor does BBC TV  
according to the BBC. Talk about restricting culture, it seems at  
every level. I don't believe that DRM is to stop the customer or help  
the original Rights owner. but it sure allows some control factor  
from the distributor.
It will be interesting to see why anyone believes that it is needed  
on BBC products. :-)

RichE



On 23 Jan 2007, at 18:30, vijay chopra wrote:

I notice that the Beeb is going to put Digital restrictions  
management in it's upcoming online, TV on demand service via  
iPlayer: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6290745.stm


"For this reason it has recommended that the BBC's on-demand  
service reduces from 13 weeks the planned amount of time that users  
could keep downloaded programmes."


Not only that, but Ofcom wants to make the DRM tighter, so we have  
access to our own media for even less time! What planet are these  
people on, what would have happened if they were around when we  
first started printing books? My guess is this: http:// 
www.pingwales.co.uk/2007/01/18/Chisnall-DRM.html


Seriously guys why the need for DRM, I've only just reconciled  
myself that I'm not going to get radio in ogg format, and will have  
to put up with real player as long as I want Radio on demand; now  
this?!




[backstage] DRM

2007-01-23 Thread vijay chopra

I notice that the Beeb is going to put Digital restrictions management in
it's upcoming online, TV on demand service via iPlayer:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6290745.stm

"For this reason it has recommended that the BBC's on-demand service reduces
from 13 weeks the planned amount of time that users could keep downloaded
programmes."

Not only that, but Ofcom wants to make the DRM tighter, so we have access to
our own media for even less time! What planet are these people on, what
would have happened if they were around when we first started printing
books? My guess is this:
http://www.pingwales.co.uk/2007/01/18/Chisnall-DRM.html

Seriously guys why the need for DRM, I've only just reconciled myself that
I'm not going to get radio in ogg format, and will have to put up with real
player as long as I want Radio on demand; now this?!


RE: [backstage] BBC launches 'Second Life for kids', says Guardian

2007-01-23 Thread Jeremy Stone
Hi Mario
 
Its not a tie up with Second Life.
Its a licence of this game engine:
 
http://www.larian.com/kick.php
Or if your language skills are up to it:
http://www.ketnetkick.be/
 
Its actually been in development for quite a while.
 
Second Life is clearly shorthand for anything with an avatar these days.
 
thanks
Jem




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Subject: [backstage] BBC launches 'Second Life for kids', says
Guardian


According to
http://media.guardian.co.uk/newmedia/story/0,,1996262,00.html :

"The BBC is to launch a children's version of the cult virtual
world, Second Life. 
CBBC World will offer youngsters a safe environment to explore,
and provide them with different zones offering CBBC content.
The project is one of the keystones of BBC Children's move to
become truly cross-platform. 
As in Second Life, children will be able to create virtual
versions of themselves on-screen, called avatars. Their characters can
then move around CBBC World."

Anyone here know more about this? When they say "Second Life",
do they really just mean "3d virtual world", or would this actually be
based on Second Life technology?

Cheers,
Mario.






[backstage] BBC launches 'Second Life for kids', says Guardian

2007-01-23 Thread Mario Menti

According to http://media.guardian.co.uk/newmedia/story/0,,1996262,00.html :

"The BBC is to launch a children's version of the cult virtual world, Second
Life.
CBBC World will offer youngsters a safe environment to explore, and provide
them with different zones offering CBBC content.
The project is one of the keystones of BBC Children's move to become truly
cross-platform.
As in Second Life, children will be able to create virtual versions of
themselves on-screen, called avatars. Their characters can then move around
CBBC World."

Anyone here know more about this? When they say "Second Life", do they
really just mean "3d virtual world", or would this actually be based on
Second Life technology?

Cheers,
Mario.


RE: [backstage] BarCampLondon2 signup now live

2007-01-23 Thread Ian Forrester
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/loopzilla/366989638/

http://www.cubicgarden.com/blojsom/blog/cubicgarden/socialsoftware/offline/2007/01/23/BarCampLondon2-the-first-wave-of-signups.html
 

Enjoy,

:)

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RE: [backstage] BarCampLondon2 signup now live

2007-01-23 Thread Ian Forrester
> Writes bot, drinks coffee...

Cheeky! But I like it :)

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RE: [backstage] BarCampLondon2 signup now live

2007-01-23 Thread Gordon Joly

At 12:36 + 23/1/07, Ian Forrester wrote:

If you check back in a few days, there will be more spaces for BarCampLondon2

We're doing waves of spaces instead of giving them all out at once. 
Hopefully we will catch more people that way.


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Writes bot, drinks coffee...


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Re: [backstage] BarCampLondon2 signup now live

2007-01-23 Thread Gordon Joly

At 07:41 -0800 22/1/07, Mikel Maron wrote:

"Unfortunately, no tickets are available for this event."

Sold out already? :(




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[backstage] Vista, Office and Exchange LAunch - Manchester - Tomorrow

2007-01-23 Thread Phil Winstanley

http://www.manchesterdda.com/article/156/

If you're about in Manchester tomorrow it will be worth registering for
this event, should give a good overview of what's coming up in the next
release of Windows and Office.

Cheers,

Phil.




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[backstage] radio 4 API

2007-01-23 Thread dave miller

I know this is probably not something that everyone would want,
probably a bit obscure...

Recently I've been experimenting with the Yahoo Answers API to extract
questions and answers to try to build dialogue in stories (online
networked stories is my interest). Trouble is the quality of the
"conversations" in Yahoo Answers is pretty awful - there's not a lot
of decent debate, and a lot of ranting. On the other hand, when I
listen to radio 4 "you and yours" (middays) it's really good quality
informed and structured debate. It would be great for me if "you and
yours" was available as an API (as text), and I could use that
instead.

Any plans to do something like that?

cheers, Dave Miller
http://davemiller.manme.org.uk/davemiller_art_blog/
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[backstage] Use of audio/video formats on BBC News

2007-01-23 Thread Jeremy Stone
Kevin Hinde, my News colleague and a fellow poster to this list has just
written a number of answers to common queries about our use of
audio/video on bbc.co.uk over at the BBC Editors' blog 

specifically
"Why don't you use Flash ?"
And that old chestnut...
"Why don't you use open standards ?"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/01/in_response_to_site_change
s.html


(apologies to Kevin for opening up this can of worms on the list ;))

Btw: thanks for the feedback already (Brian!) about Kevin's post from
yesterday on Media RSS extensions.
Any more for any more ?
http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/msg02936.html

Thanks
Jem

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RE: [backstage] BarCampLondon2 signup now live

2007-01-23 Thread Ian Forrester
If you check back in a few days, there will be more spaces for BarCampLondon2 

We're doing waves of spaces instead of giving them all out at once. Hopefully 
we will catch more people that way.

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"Unfortunately, no tickets are available for this event."

Sold out already? :(

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Subject: [backstage] BarCampLondon2 signup now live

Good afternoon,

The signup for BarCampLondon2 has gone live. There are 100 spaces up for grabs.

http://barcamp.org/BarCampLondon2 for details and signup

Hopefully see you on the 17th-18th Feb

Cheers,

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