Re: [backstage] Fwd: Government response to petition 'iplayer'

[~:'' ありがとうございました 。]

given the subject, the BBCs failure to support a range of OSs as yet.
it's doubtful they would make a case, let alone win in these  
circumstances...


fair use, though distributing might change the legal view..

cheers

Jonathan Chetwynd
Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet



On 6 Sep 2007, at 23:05, Gordon Joly wrote:

At 19:48 +0100 6/9/07, vijay chopra wrote:
I saw that as well. though I signed the petition, I'm not really  
bothered any more. I just use my windows partition and just strip  
all my iPlayer downloads of their DRM with the help of the guys  
over at doom 9:   
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127943 . That way I can  
watch them wherever I like.



Is that legal?



Actually my biggest complaint about iPlayer is Kontaki; it runs  
every time I start up, and tries to access the net even though I  
thought I told iPlayer not to do that; thankfully ZoneAlarm blocks  
it. If any iPlayer guys are reading this, is there any reason that  
we can't adjust our own upload\download rates, and perhaps even  
seeing our share ratios a la bittorrent clients? That way I'd  
probably keep iPlayer running longer, and I'd know that I'd given  
back as much bandwidth as I'd taken.


Vijay.





Kontiki? Wasn't that Thor Heyerdal's boat that (dis)proved something?

Gordo


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[backstage] DR jumps out of Windows - sort of

[Colin Moorcraft]

Greetings

Encouraging news: Denmark's public service broadcaster, DR, has  
announced concrete steps to open up its online video content to  
citizens who have yet to adopt a Windows OS (these obstinate  
individuals apparently constitute 5% of DR's users). More  
significantly, they are committed to open standards as the next step  
- albeit as a "complement" to the current proprietary lock-in.


The first step will be to simulcast DR1 and DR2 in MPEG4 H264 before  
year end. Greater use of open standards is required for the period  
2007-2010 by DR's contract with its paymaster the Ministry of  
Culture. Sounds good to me. Perhaps other public service broadcasters  
in Europe should be contractually required to maximise their ability  
to meet their universal provision mandate by much more actively  
participating in the development and adoption of open standards for  
digital content service provision. The potential benefits would  
accrue to a far wider community of stakeholders, from equipment  
manufacturers to end users. Alas, nothing so unambiguous as an  
enforceable requirement can be expected in the UK.


For those of you who are Danish readers (or who enjoy Babelfish lost- 
in-translations), this link tells more:


http://dr.dk/hjaelp/drdktv/20070207112823.htm (yes, ".htm" not  
".html" - ironic, but instructive, for a page on open standards)


Today MPEG4, tomorrow TV-Anytime?

- Colin



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Re: [backstage] Fwd: Government response to petition 'iplayer'

[Richard Lockwood]

>
>
>
>
> Kontiki? Wasn't that Thor Heyerdal's boat that (dis)proved something?
>
> Gordo


Yes.  It proved that a lot of waterlogged reeds can sink.

Changing the subject a little (please)...  Any news on the
"developer/mashup" mailing list?  Or did I just not get invited?

Cheers,

Rich.

Re: [backstage] Fwd: Government response to petition 'iplayer'

[Gordon Joly]

At 19:48 +0100 6/9/07, vijay chopra wrote:
I saw that as well. though I signed the petition, I'm not really 
bothered any more. I just use my windows partition and just strip 
all my iPlayer downloads of their DRM with the help of the guys over 
at doom 9:  
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127943 . That way I can 
watch them wherever I like.



Is that legal?



Actually my biggest complaint about iPlayer is Kontaki; it runs 
every time I start up, and tries to access the net even though I 
thought I told iPlayer not to do that; thankfully ZoneAlarm blocks 
it. If any iPlayer guys are reading this, is there any reason that 
we can't adjust our own upload\download rates, and perhaps even 
seeing our share ratios a la bittorrent clients? That way I'd 
probably keep iPlayer running longer, and I'd know that I'd given 
back as much bandwidth as I'd taken.


Vijay.





Kontiki? Wasn't that Thor Heyerdal's boat that (dis)proved something?

Gordo


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Re: [backstage] Fwd: Government response to petition 'iplayer'

[vijay chopra]

I saw that as well. though I signed the petition, I'm not really bothered
any more. I just use my windows partition and just strip all my iPlayer
downloads of their DRM with the help of the guys over at doom 9:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127943 . That way I can watch them
wherever I like.

Actually my biggest complaint about iPlayer is Kontaki; it runs every time I
start up, and tries to access the net even though I thought I told iPlayer
not to do that; thankfully ZoneAlarm blocks it. If any iPlayer guys are
reading this, is there any reason that we can't adjust our own
upload\download rates, and perhaps even seeing our share ratios a la
bittorrent clients? That way I'd probably keep iPlayer running longer, and
I'd know that I'd given back as much bandwidth as I'd taken.

Vijay.


On 06/09/07, Gordon Joly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> FYI
>
> >
> >Subject: Government response to petition 'iplayer'
> >Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:23:40 +
> >
> >You recently signed a petition asking the Prime Minister to "prevent the
> >BBC from making its iPlayer on-demand television service available to
> >Windows users only, and instruct the corporation to provide its service
> for
> >other operating systems also."
> >
> >The Prime Minister's Office has responded to that petition and you can
> view
> >it here:
> >
> >http://www.pm.gov.uk/output/Page13090.asp
> >
> >Prime Minister's Office
> >
> >Petition information - http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/iplayer/
>
>
> Gordo
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Re: [backstage] Fwd: Government response to petition 'iplayer'

[Richard Lockwood]

I'm beginning to suspect my nearly-three year old daughter of being a Linux
zealot in-waiting.  She doesn't understand the word "wait" either.

;-)

Cheers,

Rich.


FYI

>
>Subject: Government response to petition 'iplayer'
>Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:23:40 +
>
>You recently signed a petition asking the Prime Minister to "prevent the
>BBC from making its iPlayer on-demand television service available to
>Windows users only, and instruct the corporation to provide its service for
>other operating systems also."
>
>The Prime Minister's Office has responded to that petition and you can view
>it here:
>
>http://www.pm.gov.uk/output/Page13090.asp
>
>Prime Minister's Office
>
>Petition information - http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/iplayer/


Gordo

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[backstage] Fwd: Government response to petition 'iplayer'

[Gordon Joly]

FYI



Subject: Government response to petition 'iplayer'
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:23:40 +

You recently signed a petition asking the Prime Minister to "prevent the
BBC from making its iPlayer on-demand television service available to
Windows users only, and instruct the corporation to provide its service for
other operating systems also."

The Prime Minister's Office has responded to that petition and you can view
it here:

http://www.pm.gov.uk/output/Page13090.asp

Prime Minister's Office

Petition information - http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/iplayer/



Gordo

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FW: [backstage] 50 designers 6 questions

[Simon Cobb]

oops hit reply direct to you Brian, meant to reply to the list -
apologies



From: Simon Cobb 
Sent: 06 September 2007 12:45
To: 'Brian Butterworth'
Subject: RE: [backstage] 50 designers 6 questions


Thanks for that, very interesting.
 
Though I thought as it was titled "Ten pieces of advice for old media
 " the blanket ban on use of Flash
(point 9) was an odd one.
 
Certainly I'd agree that flash could be "slow to load" and it would
definitely be "irritating to browse" when providing text-based
newspaper/ magazine content. 
 
But if you're a TV company offering promo clips and/ or interactive
video content embedded on your page, surely Flash is the natural choice?
 
This is Flash's problem in 2007 as I see it. Years of gimmickery have
tainted what Flash has become really good at:
 
video
interactive video
image rendering and transforming 
and to provide all that with the potential of a lovely interface on top.

 
Plus since Flash neatly sidesteps any cross-browser issues, any lazy web
dev/designer can put their content into it and know it looks the same in
every browser. Regardless of how approriate that content is for flash.
 
Rant over.
 
 
 
 



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On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
Sent: 05 September 2007 16:00
To: Simon Cobb
Subject: Re: [backstage] 50 designers 6 questions


Simon,
 
Very good article that one...
 
Did you see this one?
 
http://www.badscience.net/?p=512

 
On 05/09/07, Simon Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

more great stuff from the folks at smashingmagazine
 

http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/09/05/50-designers-x-6-questions/ 
 

S.




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[backstage] New survey on open content licences

[Mr I Forrester]

This is a email I received from Jordon Hatcher of Open Content Lawyer, I 
thought it might be of interest to some people on the list.


Cheers


Apologies for cross-posting...

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If you are a member of a cultural heritage organisation, whether or not 
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