RE: [backstage] Mobile Developer Un/Conference/Camp
I have been developing software for Windows Mobile devices for about five years now. The processing power and memory of a smartphone is the same as a desktop PC was a few years ago so you can develop very powerful applications. I think once mobile data calls are really cheap, things will really take off in this area. Mark Piggott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 17 September 2007 18:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Mobile Developer Un/Conference/Camp So with all this hype and attention around mobile phones. What do you guys think about developing for mobile devices? How many of you guys already do? Or what's stopping you? Also is events like “mobilecamp London” (http://www.barcamp.org/mobileCampLondon) and the “Future of Mobile” (http://www.future-of-mobile.com/ addressing your needs as a developer community? Cheers Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 16/09/2007 18:32 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 17/09/2007 13:29 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Mobile Developer Un/Conference/Camp
There are some great apps for Windows Mobile: Google Maps for my Windows Smartphone is excellent. But only when connected to my PC, because Virgin Media charge more than a paper A to Z to use it for ten minutes. On 18/09/2007, Mark Piggott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been developing software for Windows Mobile devices for about five years now. The processing power and memory of a smartphone is the same as a desktop PC was a few years ago so you can develop very powerful applications. I think once mobile data calls are really cheap, things will really take off in this area. Mark Piggott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 17 September 2007 18:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Mobile Developer Un/Conference/Camp So with all this hype and attention around mobile phones. What do you guys think about developing for mobile devices? How many of you guys already do? Or what's stopping you? Also is events like mobilecamp London (http://www.barcamp.org/mobileCampLondon) and the Future of Mobile (http://www.future-of-mobile.com/ addressing your needs as a developer community? Cheers Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 16/09/2007 18:32 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 17/09/2007 13:29 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
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It's probably worth mentioning that the Java versions of the Google Maps and Google Mail apps get a fair bit of use on my phone (a Sony Ericsson k800i), as does Opera Mini. But as Mark says, they're the kind of app which really need a good data bundle. (It's a bit tricky to find the right menu option when you phone them, but Orange do unlimited mobile internet for a day for £1 on contract phones now, as well as PAYG. I find it rather handy for long train journeys.) - martin On 9/18/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some great apps for Windows Mobile: Google Maps for my Windows Smartphone is excellent. But only when connected to my PC, because Virgin Media charge more than a paper A to Z to use it for ten minutes. On 18/09/2007, Mark Piggott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been developing software for Windows Mobile devices for about five years now. The processing power and memory of a smartphone is the same as a desktop PC was a few years ago so you can develop very powerful applications. I think once mobile data calls are really cheap, things will really take off in this area. Mark Piggott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 17 September 2007 18:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Mobile Developer Un/Conference/Camp So with all this hype and attention around mobile phones. What do you guys think about developing for mobile devices? How many of you guys already do? Or what's stopping you? Also is events like mobilecamp London (http://www.barcamp.org/mobileCampLondon http://www.barcamp.org/mobileCampLondon) and the Future of Mobile (http://www.future-of-mobilehttp://www.future-of-mobile.com/ .com/ http://www.future-of-mobile.com/ addressing your needs as a developer community? Cheers Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.ukhttp://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html /archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.comhttp://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ /backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 16/09/2007 18:32 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22 /1013 - Release Date: 17/09/2007 13:29 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visithttp://backstage.bbc.co.ukhttp://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html /archives/2005/01/mailing_list.htmlhttp://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive:http://www.mail-archive.comhttp://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ /backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
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Yep I wonder if that's also a problem for developers. The price of mobile data? I was stung for over 100 pounds of data charges when I used google maps in New York. (never google and roam at the same time) Orange, Tmobile and Vodafone seem to have finally added unlimited data (1gig) but is that enough? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 18 September 2007 15:41 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Mobile Developer Un/Conference/Camp There are some great apps for Windows Mobile: Google Maps for my Windows Smartphone is excellent. But only when connected to my PC, because Virgin Media charge more than a paper A to Z to use it for ten minutes. On 18/09/2007, Mark Piggott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been developing software for Windows Mobile devices for about five years now. The processing power and memory of a smartphone is the same as a desktop PC was a few years ago so you can develop very powerful applications. I think once mobile data calls are really cheap, things will really take off in this area. Mark Piggott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 17 September 2007 18:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Mobile Developer Un/Conference/Camp So with all this hype and attention around mobile phones. What do you guys think about developing for mobile devices? How many of you guys already do? Or what's stopping you? Also is events like mobilecamp London (http://www.barcamp.org/mobileCampLondon ) and the Future of Mobile (http://www.future-of-mobile.com/ addressing your needs as a developer community? Cheers Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 16/09/2007 18:32 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22 /1013 - Release Date: 17/09/2007 13:29 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
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T-Mobile do a web and Walk unlimited (ie, 3Gb/month) 3G service for £29/month. http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/internet/laptop/webnwalk-internet/18mth-webnwalk-plus/t-mobile/compact-ii-card/price-plan/ However, for some reason the card uses a stand-alone Flash application which is incompatible with everything, which rendered it useless when I tried to use it. Nice idea. The TCs are quite amusig about unlimited... To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers, a fair use policy of 3GB (of data both *sent and received* in the UK) per month applies. If you exceed 3GB per month, we may tell you to reduce your future use. If you again exceed 3GB per month, we may tell you that we are going to apply network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed for 14 days. If you exceed 3GB per month for a third time, we may tell you that we are going to apply further network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed until you upgrade your price plan to include a larger data allowance. *We do not permit use of this service for internet phone calls*. Roaming charges apply. On 18/09/2007, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep I wonder if that's also a problem for developers. The price of mobile data? I was stung for over 100 pounds of data charges when I used google maps in New York. (never google and roam at the same time) Orange, Tmobile and Vodafone seem to have finally added unlimited data (1gig) but is that enough? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 18 September 2007 15:41 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] Mobile Developer Un/Conference/Camp There are some great apps for Windows Mobile: Google Maps for my Windows Smartphone is excellent. But only when connected to my PC, because Virgin Media charge more than a paper A to Z to use it for ten minutes. On 18/09/2007, Mark Piggott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been developing software for Windows Mobile devices for about five years now. The processing power and memory of a smartphone is the same as a desktop PC was a few years ago so you can develop very powerful applications. I think once mobile data calls are really cheap, things will really take off in this area. Mark Piggott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 17 September 2007 18:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Mobile Developer Un/Conference/Camp So with all this hype and attention around mobile phones. What do you guys think about developing for mobile devices? How many of you guys already do? Or what's stopping you? Also is events like mobilecamp London (http://www.barcamp.org/mobileCampLondon ) and the Future of Mobile (http://www.future-of-mobile.com/ addressing your needs as a developer community? Cheers Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 16/09/2007 18:32 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22 /1013 - Release Date: 17/09/2007 13:29 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
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(It's a bit tricky to find the right menu option when you phone them, but Orange do unlimited mobile internet for a day for £1 on contract phones now, as well as PAYG. I find it rather handy for long train journeys.) As do T-Mobile (my provider); it's my understanding that if you don't have a WnW tariff added to your account, you just use your data on a PAYG basis and the cost is capped at £1 a day, no prearrangements required. It used to be £7.50/mb for PAYG but they ditched that after their £7.50 a month tariff was introduced. They actually seem to be pro-consumer for once! Sadly, the usual £7.50/mb international data charges apply, but then I doubt you'd find any provider who would give you inclusive data abroad for less than £30 a month - and for business customers only, by negotiation. I'll be *very* interested to see how the already-poor O2 network (from my experience) manages to cope with all the data usage from iPhone users :D The nice thing about Web 'n Walk is that they don't mind if you go over your usage in a month - if you do it more than two months running you might get an email or a call from them asking you to stop, or get put onto the naughty pipe (read: throttled to a low speed and deprioritised) but I've gone over my 1gb/month usage once or twice due to my main Internet connection being knocked out for days on end (BT's fault), and they never contacted me. Orange, on the other hand, will charge you through the nose for any overages, as will O2 and Vodafone (and Vodafone only give you ~300Mb inclusive!) If you have a WinMo device, Paul (the MoDaCo owner) drummed up a lovely little app called NoData which is free from the site, all you do is install it on your device and then use it to toggle your Data access on or off (it modifies the registry settings for you, so no hassle involved). It saved me a fortune when I went to France earlier this year, and it means you don't have to alter any of your Push Mail or ActiveSync settings, which can be a right pain to put back to their previous settings. Until you toggle Data back on, all connections will either just fail silently or wait for network (as ActiveSync does), and if you join a wifi network they'll just happily work away until they're done and not complain once you go off-net again.
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And, on a related note, here goes nothing... http://www.siliconvalley.com/latestheadlines/ci_6927270?nclick_check=1 Somehow I doubt that all $139 of the markup is value added tax, here's some sums I did quickly... (All sums done with Google btw because I'm lazy and it has currency conversion built in, and decimals rounded up to nearest £ or $): # globals let VAT = 17.5%, or 1.175 let $1 = $2.015 (thanks Google) VAT-inclusive UK price in USD: $536 = £266 according to the article, but £269 from Google = $542. For the sake of simplicity, let's go with the article's figure. £269 (UK sale price for 8gb model) x.85 = £228.65 before VAT = $462. $536 (UK sale price VAT incl.) - $397 (US sale price) = $139 difference = £69 difference. $397 (US sale price) = £197 in GBP (plus VAT). Now, if the world was fair, we should be being charged £200 (well, £197, 'but what's £3 between friends,' quipped Steve Jobs). Therefore, £200 x 1.175 = £235 with VAT, which is what we *should* be being charged for the 8Gb iPhone. Ha. So, somewhere, somebody's making £34 to £35 on each sale, if my maths is correct (I did get Santa to check it twice, but he's notoriously unreliable). I wonder who gets this magical premium... Maybe it's for Ives' pension fund?
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On 18/09/2007, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure is, which is why the iPhone packages are all 'unlimited' data - Apple apparently insist on it. They said at the launch today this was so customers won't need to worry. Good marketing. Is that unlimited or unlimited* ? This is probably one of the reasons why there is resistance to the iPhone from operators in countries where unlimited deals don't already exist. J On 9/18/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep I wonder if that's also a problem for developers. The price of mobile data? I was stung for over 100 pounds of data charges when I used google maps in New York. (never google and roam at the same time) Orange, Tmobile and Vodafone seem to have finally added unlimited data (1gig) but is that enough? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 18 September 2007 15:41 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] Mobile Developer Un/Conference/Camp There are some great apps for Windows Mobile: Google Maps for my Windows Smartphone is excellent. But only when connected to my PC, because Virgin Media charge more than a paper A to Z to use it for ten minutes. On 18/09/2007, Mark Piggott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been developing software for Windows Mobile devices for about five years now. The processing power and memory of a smartphone is the same as a desktop PC was a few years ago so you can develop very powerful applications. I think once mobile data calls are really cheap, things will really take off in this area. Mark Piggott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 17 September 2007 18:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Mobile Developer Un/Conference/Camp So with all this hype and attention around mobile phones. What do you guys think about developing for mobile devices? How many of you guys already do? Or what's stopping you? Also is events like mobilecamp London (http://www.barcamp.org/mobileCampLondon ) and the Future of Mobile (http://www.future-of-mobile.com/ addressing your needs as a developer community? Cheers Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 16/09/2007 18:32 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22 /1013 - Release Date: 17/09/2007 13:29 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Jason Cartwright Web Specialist, EMEA Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44(0)2070313161 -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
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Sure is, which is why the iPhone packages are all 'unlimited' data - Apple apparently insist on it. They said at the launch today this was so customers won't need to worry. Good marketing. This is probably one of the reasons why there is resistance to the iPhone from operators in countries where unlimited deals don't already exist. J On 9/18/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep I wonder if that's also a problem for developers. The price of mobile data? I was stung for over 100 pounds of data charges when I used google maps in New York. (never google and roam at the same time) Orange, Tmobile and Vodafone seem to have finally added unlimited data (1gig) but is that enough? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 18 September 2007 15:41 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] Mobile Developer Un/Conference/Camp There are some great apps for Windows Mobile: Google Maps for my Windows Smartphone is excellent. But only when connected to my PC, because Virgin Media charge more than a paper A to Z to use it for ten minutes. On 18/09/2007, Mark Piggott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been developing software for Windows Mobile devices for about five years now. The processing power and memory of a smartphone is the same as a desktop PC was a few years ago so you can develop very powerful applications. I think once mobile data calls are really cheap, things will really take off in this area. Mark Piggott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 17 September 2007 18:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Mobile Developer Un/Conference/Camp So with all this hype and attention around mobile phones. What do you guys think about developing for mobile devices? How many of you guys already do? Or what's stopping you? Also is events like mobilecamp London (http://www.barcamp.org/mobileCampLondon ) and the Future of Mobile (http://www.future-of-mobile.com/ addressing your needs as a developer community? Cheers Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 16/09/2007 18:32 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22 /1013 - Release Date: 17/09/2007 13:29 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Jason Cartwright Web Specialist, EMEA Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44(0)2070313161
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Jakob Fix wrote: Matthew: 18 months contract. There is a limit: 1,400 internet pages per day would break the deal as part of fair usage agreement. Wait, what? Which internet page do they have in mind, I wonder? I bet it's more like google.com than amazon.com. I also wonder about the exchange rate between internet pages, AJAX requests, MP3 files and e-mail messages; a limit based on requests rather than total bytes transferred would be highly comical. And is the limit a cap, or merely the threshold to the land of severely enlarged bills? -- Frank Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
