Re: [backstage] iPlayer search problem

2007-12-28 Thread Duncan Barnes
Out of interest what is the thinking behind this URL structure? Could
we not have bbc.co.uk/programmes/topgear etc?

On 28/12/2007, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 in the meantime you could try /programmes

 top gear is at:

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mj59


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Re: [backstage] iPlayer search problem

2007-12-28 Thread Adam Leach

Michael Smethurst wrote:

in the meantime you could try /programmes

top gear is at:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mj59

  
Excellent, i didn't know that had the streaming programs, plus you get 
the longer description with the programmes page.


Is there any chance you could give some indication if the program has 
got signing as there doesn't appear to be any clear indications in 
either iPlayer or the programmes pages.


Adam

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RE: [backstage] iPlayer search problem

2007-12-28 Thread Michael Smethurst
something of an explanation here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2007/11/urls.shtml#c4577023


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Out of interest what is the thinking behind this URL structure? Could
we not have bbc.co.uk/programmes/topgear etc?

On 28/12/2007, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 in the meantime you could try /programmes

 top gear is at:

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mj59


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RE: [backstage] iPlayer search problem

2007-12-28 Thread Michael Smethurst
hi adam

pips (the database behind both iplayer and /programmes) allows an episode to 
have multiple 'versions'. each of these versions can have associated on demand 
availability. and each version has a 'derivation reason' which may be: 
lengthened, shortened, signed, with burnt in sub-titles etc

at the moment iplayer is only exposing a single version of each episode (which 
may or may not have signing). In time (I believe) multiple versions will be 
made available. when that happens we'll be able to provide a choice of version 
where available and (for /programmes at least) navigation faceted by the 
availability of sign language

erm, does that answer your question?


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Michael Smethurst wrote:
 in the meantime you could try /programmes

 top gear is at:

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mj59

   
Excellent, i didn't know that had the streaming programs, plus you get 
the longer description with the programmes page.

Is there any chance you could give some indication if the program has 
got signing as there doesn't appear to be any clear indications in 
either iPlayer or the programmes pages.

Adam

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Re: [backstage] uk_rt XMLTV listings stopped updating on 19th Dec

2007-12-28 Thread Stuart Ward
David Greaves said the following on 25/12/07 18:37:
 Hi XMLTV/Backstagers
 
 Looking here:
   http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/
 
 It's clear there have been no updates since the 19th Dec.
 
 It would be awfully seasonally spirited if someone were to kick someone to 
 kick
 something :)
 
 Merry Christmas - and hopefully a TV-ish New Year.
 
 David

I have programmes up to midnight on 31 December but nothing after.

Stuart

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Re: [backstage] iPlayer search problem

2007-12-28 Thread Adam Leach

Michael Smethurst wrote:

hi adam

pips (the database behind both iplayer and /programmes) allows an episode to 
have multiple 'versions'. each of these versions can have associated on demand 
availability. and each version has a 'derivation reason' which may be: 
lengthened, shortened, signed, with burnt in sub-titles etc

at the moment iplayer is only exposing a single version of each episode (which 
may or may not have signing). In time (I believe) multiple versions will be 
made available. when that happens we'll be able to provide a choice of version 
where available and (for /programmes at least) navigation faceted by the 
availability of sign language

erm, does that answer your question?
  

Thanks Michael,

Yeah, sort of answers my question, although i didn't really explain the 
question too well.


My point was that this top gear episode 
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b008gzy6) is signed, yet there is no 
way on knowing that until you start watching it.  If i had downloaded 
this via the p2p client i would have been a bit disappointed, but then 
again its available so its better then nothing.


The navigation on the Programmes beta site is great, especially the 
ability to quickly navigate between previous and later episode in the 
series.  Makes it very easy to find episodes that you might have missed.


Apart from me being fussy about a few things, iPlayer is great and i'm 
yet to find a friend who isn't impressed with it


Adam

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Michael Smethurst wrote:
  

in the meantime you could try /programmes

top gear is at:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mj59

  

Excellent, i didn't know that had the streaming programs, plus you get 
the longer description with the programmes page.


Is there any chance you could give some indication if the program has 
got signing as there doesn't appear to be any clear indications in 
either iPlayer or the programmes pages.


Adam

  


Re: [backstage] Broadcasters to launch joint VoD service

2007-12-28 Thread Michael Walsh


 And more importantly, why did you just send a suspicious file in you
 email?
 What are you doing sending .dat files anyway?

 Andy



Okay - I'm getting quietly tired of yet more BBC people sending .dat files
as attachments in their emails and you keeping quietly schtum!

Either correct everybody or correct no one.

Please be consistent or consider your position!





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Re: [backstage] uk_rt XMLTV listings stopped updating on 19th Dec

2007-12-28 Thread Mr I Forrester

Strange will email some people

Stuart Ward wrote:

David Greaves said the following on 25/12/07 18:37:
  

Hi XMLTV/Backstagers

Looking here:
  http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/

It's clear there have been no updates since the 19th Dec.

It would be awfully seasonally spirited if someone were to kick someone to kick
something :)

Merry Christmas - and hopefully a TV-ish New Year.

David



I have programmes up to midnight on 31 December but nothing after.

Stuart

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Re: [backstage] Broadcasters to launch joint VoD service

2007-12-28 Thread Mr I Forrester

I'm sorry you feel that way.

Outlook 2003 is standard issue on most BBC desktops and laptops, and you 
know how weird outlook can be as default :)


I spend most of my time using Thunderbird ;) Oh quick question for 
everyone - should I switch over to Evolution?


Michael Walsh wrote:



And more importantly, why did you just send a suspicious file in
you email?
What are you doing sending .dat files anyway?

Andy

 
 
Okay - I'm getting quietly tired of yet more BBC people sending .dat 
files as attachments in their emails and you keeping quietly schtum!
 
Either correct everybody or correct no one.
 
Please be consistent or consider your position!
 

 



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