RE: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday

2008-09-22 Thread Ian Forrester
I still don't see why a non developer or non geek would want the google phone 
over windows mobile?
 
Maybe its just me?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Mbale
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same day as Germany Developer day, September 23rd -- Munich, Germany 
http://code.google.com/intl/de/events/developerday/2008/home.html  
I have won a bet, drink up!


On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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I feel an early adoption coming on...


http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2226543/android-uk-launch-set-tuesday


http://news.google.co.uk/news?rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB288GB289tab=wnncl=1247938204hl=en

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Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday

2008-09-22 Thread Jim Tonge

surely the proof of android's pudding will be in the eating?

non-geeks i know who used WinMo were utterly flummoxed by it.

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Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday

2008-09-22 Thread Phil Wilson
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Jim Tonge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 surely the proof of android's pudding will be in the eating?

 non-geeks i know who used WinMo were utterly flummoxed by it.

+1 to both those statements. I don't know any non-geeks who get on
well with WinMo (but several geeks who love it). Anecdotal experience,
I know, but hey :)

Phil
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RE: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday

2008-09-22 Thread Ian Forrester
But this is the point right. 

If you’re not a geek, why would you consider the Gphone which looks like those 
scary windows mobile devices?

Unlike Apple, there won't be any special data plans or special price points. 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Wilson
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On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Jim Tonge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 surely the proof of android's pudding will be in the eating?

 non-geeks i know who used WinMo were utterly flummoxed by it.

+1 to both those statements. I don't know any non-geeks who get on
well with WinMo (but several geeks who love it). Anecdotal experience, I know, 
but hey :)

Phil
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Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday

2008-09-22 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/9/22 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I still don't see why a non developer or non geek would want the google
 phone over windows mobile?

 Maybe its just me?

I'm totally ignorant, but I hadn't seen a WinMo do anything like the
gPhone/iPhone's animated UI.

(Apple doesn't even allow the public to see the API for its canvas,
because iPhone apps are webapps, but Google has made Skia free
software; Skia is the high performance canvas library that doesn't
require a 3D graphics chip, that makes all the iPhone-style bouncy UI
animation fly)

Cheers,
Dave
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Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday

2008-09-22 Thread Jim Tonge

Ok, I see what you mean.

Although:

- Web n Walk (it's on T-Mobile, right?) is £5 a month for unlimited  
internet.


- Google is a brand non-geeks trust - if they market it with Google  
search, Gmail, YouTube and Maps they're laughing. As Apple rightly  
surmised, people do want the lighter side of geek functionality, just  
not the headache of getting it to work.


I think most phones can do what the iPhone does anyway - they just  
make it so difficult people don't bother. My sister wanted an iPhone  
on the strength of its Facebook webapp alone, until I pointed out she  
could have similar access with her 3G-enabled Sony Ericsson and Opera  
mini.


I guess my point is that it's down to how well it works and how well  
they market it, natch.


On 22 Sep 2008, at 19:07, Ian Forrester wrote:


But this is the point right.

If you’re not a geek, why would you consider the Gphone which looks  
like those scary windows mobile devices?


Unlike Apple, there won't be any special data plans or special price  
points.


Ian Forrester

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Re: [backstage] Manchester Free Software Talk: Dave Crossland - Free as in Profit

2008-09-22 Thread Tim Dobson

Brian Butterworth wrote:
I'd quite like to come, but can't.  I just love font internals*. 


 Looking forward to the video, Dave.


Just to follow this up,
I have the video, I just need to convert it from DV raw to something 
people might want to download ie. not 1GB/min ish

I am waiting for some hardware, and then I should have the video up.

Good talk by the way Dave!

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