Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday

[Jim Tonge]

I got a pretty good compass out of a Christmas cracker last year ;)

On 24 Sep 2008, at 20:34, "Phil Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:


It can't be a compass directly, but many GPS receivers can show you  
your

direction of travel on a compass-like display.


I seem to remember my N95 has a pretty good compass in it.
GPS+accelerometer = standing-still compass.

Phil
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Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday

[Phil Wilson]

> It can't be a compass directly, but many GPS receivers can show you your
> direction of travel on a compass-like display.

I seem to remember my N95 has a pretty good compass in it.
GPS+accelerometer = standing-still compass.

Phil
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Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday

[Steve Jolly]

Brian Butterworth wrote:
Sorry, a "GPS compass".  I worked on GPS for ages back in the day and 
don't ever recall GPS being able to be a compass.


It can't be a compass directly, but many GPS receivers can show you your 
direction of travel on a compass-like display.


S

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Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday

[Brian Butterworth]

Re: Compass...

http://code.google.com/android/reference/com/google/android/maps/MyLocationOverlay.html#enableCompass()

2008/9/24 Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Thanks Brian, I keep meaning to add to the presentation because the
> pacemaker is such a revolutionary device.
>
> GPS and Compass? are you sure?
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>  Ian,
>
> the gPhone has both GPS and a compass, I can think of loads of applications
> for that.
>
> But I'm worried now, Jemima Kiss has twittered "So apparently G1 is a dog's
> dinner. I'll reserve judgement until I get my hands on one."
>
> PS: Loved the mixtape presentation on your website.
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> 2008/9/22 Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>  I still don't see why a non developer or non geek would want the google
>> phone over windows mobile?
>>
>> Maybe its just me?
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>>   same day as Germany Developer day, September 23rd -- Munich, 
>> Germany I
>> have won a bet, drink up!
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> I feel an "early adoption" coming on...
>>>
>>> http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2226543/android-uk-launch-set-tuesday
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>>>
>>> http://news.google.co.uk/news?rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB288GB289&tab=wn&ncl=1247938204&hl=en
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Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday

[Jim Tonge]

Indeed. Perhaps I overestimated Google's desire to have mass adoption.  
Maybe they're playing safe til they have a solid platform - I know my  
opinion of Apple has been dented by buggy 2.0 software and  
questionable app acceptance practices.


Jim

On 24 Sep 2008, at 01:43, "Ian Forrester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



From that article,

"It's just very exciting for me as a computer geek to have a phone I  
can play with and modify."


See this is what I mean.

Don't get me wrong for backstage and the community of developers,  
geeks, hackers, etc. Its going to be great to have a phone which is  
open enough to modify and change but for "consumers" what's the big  
deal?


As Jim Tonge pointed out its all about marketing and google are not  
doing that.


Anyway we'll find out real soon. I'm looking forward to dual booting  
my HTC phone real soon.


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good article

http://valleywag.com/5053648/brin-and-page-show-up-late-wing-it-at-googlephone-launch

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Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday

[Brian Butterworth]

Sorry, a "GPS compass".  I worked on GPS for ages back in the day and don't
ever recall GPS being able to be a compass.
Not really sure what is so complicated about "electronic compasses" though,
I would love to hear more.

I was really looking forward to doing my little app to help find your
nearest Freeview transmitter.

2008/9/24 Tom Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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> On 24 Sep 2008, at 07:33, Brian Butterworth wrote:
>
>  Yes, I am sure that it has a compass (that's how the Live Streetmap view
>> works in the demos), I'm not 100% sure it is necessarily going to be the
>> killer app...
>>
>
> In my experience, electronic compasses are utterly terrible for consumer
> use. I suspect the Live Streetmap thing might work with a GPS Compass (ie,
> this is the bearing you are walking along) and accelerometer for dead
> reckoning from that bearing.
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Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday

[Tom Taylor]

On 24 Sep 2008, at 07:33, Brian Butterworth wrote:

Yes, I am sure that it has a compass (that's how the Live Streetmap  
view works in the demos), I'm not 100% sure it is necessarily going  
to be the killer app...


In my experience, electronic compasses are utterly terrible for  
consumer use. I suspect the Live Streetmap thing might work with a GPS  
Compass (ie, this is the bearing you are walking along) and  
accelerometer for dead reckoning from that bearing.

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