Re: [backstage] Invalid XML in iPlayer feeds

[Sean DALY]

I have generated calmness by inserting systematic XML validation in my
workflows using xmlstarlet, e.g.:



$ xml val list.htm
list.htm:2: parser error : XML declaration allowed only at the start
of the document

 ^
list.htm - invalid
$


I ran the above on a Mac. Runs on Windows, *nux, the BDSs, etc.

Sean



On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Alex Mace wrote:
> iPlayer itself seemed to be down eariler today...
>
> Alex
>
> On 3 Sep 2009, at 14:52, Paul Battley wrote:
>
>> The iPlayer feeds seem to be broken today. They currently have a blank
>> line before the XML declaration, making them invalid.
>>
>> E.g. (Firefox will also complain if you load it up)
>> http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/popular/tv/list
>>
>> Has anyone else noticed? I can't be the only person who is using a
>> real, strict XML parser to consume them!
>>
>> Paul.
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Re: [backstage] Warning: Super geeky - Petabytes on a budget

[Alex Mace]

I know you were just making a general point, I'm just being pedantic :-p

Moore's Law itself is strictly the defined in the original paper about  
it, although most people do generalise it for application to other  
things...


Moore's Law, in it's original form, still holds and is predicted to  
hold for at least another 10 years. The increase in HD capacity has  
apparently slowed over the last few years and is no longer holding to  
a similar pattern.


Alex

On 3 Sep 2009, at 15:38, Brian Butterworth wrote:

The first hard drive we had a school was a Winchester for the BBC  
Micro network, it was a "full hight" 5.25" drive, and it had a  
capacity of 10 megabytes.


By the time I installed servers when I was a BT Broadcast, server  
drive were "half hight" and in the 3" size, with capacities in  
single gigabytes.


I popped a terrabyte in a server a few weeks ago, bought from PC  
World (boo! hiss!) in the "half hight" 3" size.


Whilst I have a laptop drive under one of my monitors that is  
smaller, most drives still are "half hight" 3".


I hold that experience suggests that you can apply Moore's Law to  
hard drive capacity as well, and it seems reasonable that there will  
be no move from "half hight" 3" drives.


Moore's law, in the basic form "double the stuff for the same price  
in 18 months" applies to hard drives, and it works with broadband  
and other communications speeds.


The only thing it doesn't work for is data compression and broadcast  
networks.


I'm sorry if you think this is a misapplication of Moore's Law, I  
was just trying to make a general point.


2009/9/3 Rhys Jones 
Sorry, the Kryder's Law link should be:
http://www.mattscomputertrends.com/Kryder%27s.html

2009/9/3 Rhys Jones :
> Quite - I'm not aware that Moore said anything about the density of
> magnetic storage! Kryder's law is mentioned here:
> http://www.mattscomputertrends.com/harddrives.html
>
> Also, this is old but may be relevant (the projections don't seem to
> be more than an order of magnitude off the mark, if that):
> http://www.oblomovka.com/entries/2002/12/04#1039028640
>
> Rhys
>
> 2009/9/3 Alex Mace :
>> Hmm, not sure it doesn't doesn't Moore's law actually say that  
the density

>> of transistors will double every 18 months?
>> Alex
>> On 3 Sep 2009, at 09:08, Brian Butterworth wrote:
>>
>> Very nice.  You could store 29 days of everything transitted on  
Freeview (23

>> after switchover).
>> Moore's law says you're going to get it in a 36TB in a single  
drive in five

>> years though...
>> 2009/9/2 Ian Forrester 
>>>
>>> http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-
>>> cheap-cloud-storage/
>>>
>>> Found via Frank Wales,
>>>
>>> I'm amazed, but this amazed me when I first saw it too -
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs
>>>
>>> Secret[] Private[] Public[x]
>>>
>>> Ian Forrester
>>> Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D
>>> 01612444063 | 07711913293
>>> ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk
>>>
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Re: [backstage] Warning: Super geeky - Petabytes on a budget

[Brian Butterworth]

The first hard drive we had a school was a Winchester for the BBC Micro
network, it was a "full hight" 5.25" drive, and it had a capacity of 10
megabytes.
By the time I installed servers when I was a BT Broadcast, server drive were
"half hight" and in the 3" size, with capacities in single gigabytes.

I popped a terrabyte in a server a few weeks ago, bought from PC World (boo!
hiss!) in the "half hight" 3" size.

Whilst I have a laptop drive under one of my monitors that is smaller, most
drives still are "half hight" 3".

I hold that experience suggests that you can apply Moore's Law to hard drive
capacity as well, and it seems reasonable that there will be no move from
"half hight" 3" drives.

Moore's law, in the basic form "double the stuff for the same price in 18
months" applies to hard drives, and it works with broadband and other
communications speeds.

The only thing it doesn't work for is data compression and broadcast
networks.

I'm sorry if you think this is a misapplication of Moore's Law, I was just
trying to make a general point.

2009/9/3 Rhys Jones 

> Sorry, the Kryder's Law link should be:
> http://www.mattscomputertrends.com/Kryder%27s.html
>
> 2009/9/3 Rhys Jones :
> > Quite - I'm not aware that Moore said anything about the density of
> > magnetic storage! Kryder's law is mentioned here:
> > http://www.mattscomputertrends.com/harddrives.html
> >
> > Also, this is old but may be relevant (the projections don't seem to
> > be more than an order of magnitude off the mark, if that):
> > http://www.oblomovka.com/entries/2002/12/04#1039028640
> >
> > Rhys
> >
> > 2009/9/3 Alex Mace :
> >> Hmm, not sure it doesn't doesn't Moore's law actually say that the
> density
> >> of transistors will double every 18 months?
> >> Alex
> >> On 3 Sep 2009, at 09:08, Brian Butterworth wrote:
> >>
> >> Very nice.  You could store 29 days of everything transitted on Freeview
> (23
> >> after switchover).
> >> Moore's law says you're going to get it in a 36TB in a single drive in
> five
> >> years though...
> >> 2009/9/2 Ian Forrester 
> >>>
> >>>
> http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-
> >>> cheap-cloud-storage/
> >>>
> >>> Found via Frank Wales,
> >>>
> >>> I'm amazed, but this amazed me when I first saw it too -
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs
> >>>
> >>> Secret[] Private[] Public[x]
> >>>
> >>> Ian Forrester
> >>> Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D
> >>> 01612444063 | 07711913293
> >>> ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk
> >>>
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Re: [backstage] BBC EPG logos 96x42 for Windows Media Center?

[Brian Butterworth]

Andrew,
Is there any chance that I can get the correct versions sent to me please as
I'm not "on the BBC network" in any useful sense and I suspect that
attempting to hack in may be frowned upon, however relevant to Backstage.

2009/9/3 Andrew Bowden 

>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have been conversing with mychannello...@live.com at
> http://mychannellogos.com/  a
> rather neat little application that adds icons to the programme listings in
> Windows Media Center on Vista (later version) and Windows 7.
>
> I've been trying to persuade him to use "official" BBC logos, rather than
> ones that have been badly edited by a three-year old who's never seen a
> radial colouring tool before.
>
> The icons need to be 42 wide and 96 high transparent PNGs to display in the
> guide. I've done a set (see attached) that are all taken from the iPlayer
> pages.
>
> However, despite my sending proof that the BBC logo has certain
> constraints, requirements and colourways, the programme creator is unhappy
> because they are "too small" and he is unhappy that the BBC logos are "white
> out on colour" which doesn't fit with his view of logos.
>
>  As I want them to look right (like I did for DAB!) is there some internal
> BBC thing with a set of logos for all BBC channels in existence for use in
> an EPG? Then I can tell him that they are official, and not just "proper"...
>
> Well I'm sure all our marketing people are happy he's such an expert on
> logo design :)
>
> There was a branding website - no longer updated - which details the usage
> of the BBC logos, however the logos themselves are only available to
> download if you're on the BBC network.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/branding/
>
> There's a raft of different versions of the logos for each channel,
> including monochrome ones, and two-colour versions.  But ultimately if we
> didn't our own brand right on the iPlayer pages, what hope would there be
> for us?!
>



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Re: [backstage] Invalid XML in iPlayer feeds

[Alex Mace]

iPlayer itself seemed to be down eariler today...

Alex

On 3 Sep 2009, at 14:52, Paul Battley wrote:


The iPlayer feeds seem to be broken today. They currently have a blank
line before the XML declaration, making them invalid.

E.g. (Firefox will also complain if you load it up)
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/popular/tv/list

Has anyone else noticed? I can't be the only person who is using a
real, strict XML parser to consume them!

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[backstage] Invalid XML in iPlayer feeds

[Paul Battley]

The iPlayer feeds seem to be broken today. They currently have a blank
line before the XML declaration, making them invalid.

E.g. (Firefox will also complain if you load it up)
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/popular/tv/list

Has anyone else noticed? I can't be the only person who is using a
real, strict XML parser to consume them!

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Re: [backstage] Disconected from internet

[Nico Morrison]

Who reads The Times these days since Murdoch murdered it? They should be
doing what everybody else does and bribing MPs, sorry of course I meant,
'using non-executive directorships to add value', nay 'add BEST value', to
government policy indecisions.

And we'll only be saved by an EU ruling - 'cos the entertainment media got
more bucks than the ISP/telcos to 'lobby'. It's a sad etc ..

Nico M



2009/9/3 Matt Hammond 

> OUTLAW radio has some comments on whether a European law ruling may
> "overshadow" this proposal:
>
> http://www.out-law.com/page-10331
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
> On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:29:05 +0100, Glyn Wintle 
> wrote:
>
>  Open Rights Group, Which?, talktalk, BT, Consumer Focus and Orange
>> responding to the governments plans to disconnect users from the internet
>> because some one has _accused_ them of infringing copyright.
>>
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/letters/article6819093.ece
>>
>> Sir, We agree that the creative industries play an important role in the
>> UK and understand the challenge that illegal filesharing presents (letter,
>> Sept 1). We do not condone or encourage such activity, but we are concerned
>> that the Government’s latest proposals on the "how" to reduce illegal
>> filesharing are misconceived and threaten broadband consumers’ rights and
>> the development of new attractive services. Experience in other countries
>> suggests that pursuing such an approach can result in significant consumer
>> resistance. Any new policy must be considered very carefully.
>>
>> Any decision to move to harsh and punitive measures such as disconnection
>> must be genuinely underpinned by rigorous and objective assessment by Ofcom.
>> Consumers must be presumed to be innocent unless proven guilty. We must
>> avoid an extrajudicial “kangaroo court” process where evidence is not tested
>> properly and accused broadband users are denied the right to defend
>> themselves against false accusations. Without these protections innocent
>> customers will suffer. Any penalty must be proportionate. Disconnecting
>> users from the internet would place serious limits on their freedom of
>> expression. Usually, constraints to freedom of expression are imposed only
>> as the result of custodial sentences, or incitement to racial hatred, or
>> libel. The proposal that internet service providers — and by implication
>> broadband customers — should pay most of the cost of these measures to
>> support the creative industries is grossly unfair since the vast majority of
>> consumers do not fileshare illegally. Further, this payment approach would
>> discourage content industries from developing new services.
>>
>> We hope that the Government will consider genuinely consumers’ rights in
>> its endeavours to protect the creative industries.
>>
>> Charles Dunstone, talktalk
>>
>> Ian Livingston, BT
>>
>> Jim Killock, Open Rights Group
>>
>> Ed Mayo, Consumer Focus
>>
>> Deborah Prince, Which?
>>
>> Tom Alexander, Orange UK
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [backstage] Warning: Super geeky - Petabytes on a budget

[Rhys Jones]

Quite - I'm not aware that Moore said anything about the density of
magnetic storage! Kryder's law is mentioned here:
http://www.mattscomputertrends.com/harddrives.html

Also, this is old but may be relevant (the projections don't seem to
be more than an order of magnitude off the mark, if that):
http://www.oblomovka.com/entries/2002/12/04#1039028640

Rhys

2009/9/3 Alex Mace :
> Hmm, not sure it doesn't doesn't Moore's law actually say that the density
> of transistors will double every 18 months?
> Alex
> On 3 Sep 2009, at 09:08, Brian Butterworth wrote:
>
> Very nice.  You could store 29 days of everything transitted on Freeview (23
> after switchover).
> Moore's law says you're going to get it in a 36TB in a single drive in five
> years though...
> 2009/9/2 Ian Forrester 
>>
>> http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-
>> cheap-cloud-storage/
>>
>> Found via Frank Wales,
>>
>> I'm amazed, but this amazed me when I first saw it too -
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs
>>
>> Secret[] Private[] Public[x]
>>
>> Ian Forrester
>> Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D
>> 01612444063 | 07711913293
>> ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk
>>
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>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: [backstage] Warning: Super geeky - Petabytes on a budget

[Rhys Jones]

Sorry, the Kryder's Law link should be:
http://www.mattscomputertrends.com/Kryder%27s.html

2009/9/3 Rhys Jones :
> Quite - I'm not aware that Moore said anything about the density of
> magnetic storage! Kryder's law is mentioned here:
> http://www.mattscomputertrends.com/harddrives.html
>
> Also, this is old but may be relevant (the projections don't seem to
> be more than an order of magnitude off the mark, if that):
> http://www.oblomovka.com/entries/2002/12/04#1039028640
>
> Rhys
>
> 2009/9/3 Alex Mace :
>> Hmm, not sure it doesn't doesn't Moore's law actually say that the density
>> of transistors will double every 18 months?
>> Alex
>> On 3 Sep 2009, at 09:08, Brian Butterworth wrote:
>>
>> Very nice.  You could store 29 days of everything transitted on Freeview (23
>> after switchover).
>> Moore's law says you're going to get it in a 36TB in a single drive in five
>> years though...
>> 2009/9/2 Ian Forrester 
>>>
>>> http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-
>>> cheap-cloud-storage/
>>>
>>> Found via Frank Wales,
>>>
>>> I'm amazed, but this amazed me when I first saw it too -
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs
>>>
>>> Secret[] Private[] Public[x]
>>>
>>> Ian Forrester
>>> Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D
>>> 01612444063 | 07711913293
>>> ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk
>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
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Re: [backstage] Disconected from internet

[Matt Hammond]

OUTLAW radio has some comments on whether a European law ruling may  
"overshadow" this proposal:


http://www.out-law.com/page-10331



Matt

On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:29:05 +0100, Glyn Wintle   
wrote:


Open Rights Group, Which?, talktalk, BT, Consumer Focus and Orange  
responding to the governments plans to disconnect users from the  
internet because some one has _accused_ them of infringing copyright.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/letters/article6819093.ece

Sir, We agree that the creative industries play an important role in the  
UK and understand the challenge that illegal filesharing presents  
(letter, Sept 1). We do not condone or encourage such activity, but we  
are concerned that the Government’s latest proposals on the "how" to  
reduce illegal filesharing are misconceived and threaten broadband  
consumers’ rights and the development of new attractive services.  
Experience in other countries suggests that pursuing such an approach  
can result in significant consumer resistance. Any new policy must be  
considered very carefully.


Any decision to move to harsh and punitive measures such as  
disconnection must be genuinely underpinned by rigorous and objective  
assessment by Ofcom. Consumers must be presumed to be innocent unless  
proven guilty. We must avoid an extrajudicial “kangaroo court” process  
where evidence is not tested properly and accused broadband users are  
denied the right to defend themselves against false accusations. Without  
these protections innocent customers will suffer. Any penalty must be  
proportionate. Disconnecting users from the internet would place serious  
limits on their freedom of expression. Usually, constraints to freedom  
of expression are imposed only as the result of custodial sentences, or  
incitement to racial hatred, or libel. The proposal that internet  
service providers — and by implication broadband customers — should pay  
most of the cost of these measures to support the creative industries is  
grossly unfair since the vast majority of
consumers do not fileshare illegally. Further, this payment approach  
would discourage content industries from developing new services.


We hope that the Government will consider genuinely consumers’ rights in  
its endeavours to protect the creative industries.


Charles Dunstone, talktalk

Ian Livingston, BT

Jim Killock, Open Rights Group

Ed Mayo, Consumer Focus

Deborah Prince, Which?

Tom Alexander, Orange UK



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Re: [backstage] Warning: Super geeky - Petabytes on a budget

[Frank Wales]

On 09/03/2009 11:28 AM, Tim Dobson wrote:
> Ian Forrester wrote:
>> http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-
>> cheap-cloud-storage/
>>
>> Found via Frank Wales,
> 
> Haha. So Frank reads /. too! :)

Actually, I got it (and RTed it) in my twitter feed. So there *pththtb* :-P.

[As I said to Ian, I was most interested in the power consumption, at
around ~1kW per 4U box of storage; it was less than I expected.]
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[backstage] Disconected from internet

[Glyn Wintle]

Open Rights Group, Which?, talktalk, BT, Consumer Focus and Orange responding 
to the governments plans to disconnect users from the internet because some one 
has _accused_ them of infringing copyright.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/letters/article6819093.ece

Sir, We agree that the creative industries play an important role in the UK and 
understand the challenge that illegal filesharing presents (letter, Sept 1). We 
do not condone or encourage such activity, but we are concerned that the 
Government’s latest proposals on the "how" to reduce illegal filesharing are 
misconceived and threaten broadband consumers’ rights and the development of 
new attractive services. Experience in other countries suggests that pursuing 
such an approach can result in significant consumer resistance. Any new policy 
must be considered very carefully.

Any decision to move to harsh and punitive measures such as disconnection must 
be genuinely underpinned by rigorous and objective assessment by Ofcom. 
Consumers must be presumed to be innocent unless proven guilty. We must avoid 
an extrajudicial “kangaroo court” process where evidence is not tested properly 
and accused broadband users are denied the right to defend themselves against 
false accusations. Without these protections innocent customers will suffer. 
Any penalty must be proportionate. Disconnecting users from the internet would 
place serious limits on their freedom of expression. Usually, constraints to 
freedom of expression are imposed only as the result of custodial sentences, or 
incitement to racial hatred, or libel. The proposal that internet service 
providers — and by implication broadband customers — should pay most of the 
cost of these measures to support the creative industries is grossly unfair 
since the vast majority of
consumers do not fileshare illegally. Further, this payment approach would 
discourage content industries from developing new services.

We hope that the Government will consider genuinely consumers’ rights in its 
endeavours to protect the creative industries.

Charles Dunstone, talktalk

Ian Livingston, BT

Jim Killock, Open Rights Group

Ed Mayo, Consumer Focus

Deborah Prince, Which?

Tom Alexander, Orange UK 


  

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Re: [backstage] Warning: Super geeky - Petabytes on a budget

[Tim Dobson]

Ian Forrester wrote:

http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-
cheap-cloud-storage/

Found via Frank Wales,


Haha. So Frank reads /. too! :)
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Re: [backstage] Warning: Super geeky - Petabytes on a budget

[Alex Mace]

Hmm, not sure it doesn't doesn't Moore's law actually say that the  
density of transistors will double every 18 months?


Alex

On 3 Sep 2009, at 09:08, Brian Butterworth wrote:

Very nice.  You could store 29 days of everything transitted on  
Freeview (23 after switchover).


Moore's law says you're going to get it in a 36TB in a single drive  
in five years though...


2009/9/2 Ian Forrester 
http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-
cheap-cloud-storage/

Found via Frank Wales,

I'm amazed, but this amazed me when I first saw it too -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs

Secret[] Private[] Public[x]

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Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D
01612444063 | 07711913293
ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk

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RE: [backstage] BBC EPG logos 96x42 for Windows Media Center?

[Andrew Bowden]

 


Hi,


I have been conversing with mychannello...@live.com at
http://mychannellogos.com/   a
rather neat little application that adds icons to the programme listings
in Windows Media Center on Vista (later version) and Windows 7.


I've been trying to persuade him to use "official" BBC logos,
rather than ones that have been badly edited by a three-year old who's
never seen a radial colouring tool before.


The icons need to be 42 wide and 96 high transparent PNGs to
display in the guide. I've done a set (see attached) that are all taken
from the iPlayer pages. 


However, despite my sending proof that the BBC logo has certain
constraints, requirements and colourways, the programme creator is
unhappy because they are "too small" and he is unhappy that the BBC
logos are "white out on colour" which doesn't fit with his view of
logos. 

 
 As I want them to look right (like I did for DAB!) is there
some internal BBC thing with a set of logos for all BBC channels in
existence for use in an EPG? Then I can tell him that they are official,
and not just "proper"...

Well I'm sure all our marketing people are happy he's such an expert on
logo design :)
 
There was a branding website - no longer updated - which details the
usage of the BBC logos, however the logos themselves are only available
to download if you're on the BBC network.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/branding/
 
There's a raft of different versions of the logos for each channel,
including monochrome ones, and two-colour versions.  But ultimately if
we didn't our own brand right on the iPlayer pages, what hope would
there be for us?!

[backstage] BBC EPG logos 96x42 for Windows Media Center?

[Brian Butterworth]

Hi,

I have been conversing with mychannello...@live.com at
http://mychannellogos.com/  a rather
neat little application that adds icons to the programme listings in Windows
Media Center on Vista (later version) and Windows 7.

I've been trying to persuade him to use "official" BBC logos, rather than
ones that have been badly edited by a three-year old who's never seen a
radial colouring tool before.

The icons need to be 42 wide and 96 high transparent PNGs to display in the
guide. I've done a set (see attached) that are all taken from the iPlayer
pages.

However, despite my sending proof that the BBC logo has certain constraints,
requirements and colourways, the programme creator is unhappy because they
are "too small" and he is unhappy that the BBC logos are "white out on
colour" which doesn't fit with his view of logos.

As I want them to look right (like I did for DAB!) is there some internal
BBC thing with a set of logos for all BBC channels in existence for use in
an EPG? Then I can tell him that they are official, and not just "proper"...

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Re: [backstage] Warning: Super geeky - Petabytes on a budget

[Brian Butterworth]

Very nice.  You could store 29 days of everything transitted on Freeview (23
after switchover).
Moore's law says you're going to get it in a 36TB in a single drive in five
years though...

2009/9/2 Ian Forrester 

> http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-
> cheap-cloud-storage/
>
> Found via Frank Wales,
>
> I'm amazed, but this amazed me when I first saw it too -
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs
>
> Secret[] Private[] Public[x]
>
> Ian Forrester
> Senior Backstage Producer, BBC R&D
> 01612444063 | 07711913293
> ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk
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