RE: [backstage] who to ask: SVG in weather feeds?
Hello there, 'Tis I. We don't have any SVG icons. Do you mean the gif images of weather symbols used on the 5 day forecast pages? Feel free to contact me off list with your answer...I doubt this conversation is of general interest to the list. As for the descrepancy between symbols and labels on the feed, I will investigate. Best, Kass Kathryn Schmitt Senior Developer BBC Weather Centre 2026 Television Centre T: 020 82259448 M: 0771 7582482 www.bbc.co.uk/weather www.bbc.co.uk/climate > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ~:'' > > Sent: 25 July 2007 10:03 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: [backstage] who to ask: SVG in weather feeds? > > SVG weather feeds: who to ask? > > Who at the BBC publishes the weather feeds? > > Is there a good reason the SVG icons are not linked within the feed? > > regards > > Jonathan Chetwynd > > > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To > unsubscribe, please visit > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial list archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Weather feeds
Hello, We have, as you've noticed, changed our forecast feeds to include 3 days rather than 1. I'm sorry for any inconvenience this may cause you. We have also added feeds for current observations at http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/obs/world/.xml Thanks, Kass Kathryn Schmitt Senior Developer in Weather BBC Future Media & Technology Journalism 2026 Television Centre T: 020 82259448 M: 0771 7582482 www.bbc.co.uk/weather www.bbc.co.uk/climate > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood > Sent: 06 July 2007 09:36 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: [backstage] Weather feeds > > Dear BBC, > > Thak you for changing the format of the feeds at > http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/.xml > > Thank you so bloody much. Grr... > > R. > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To > unsubscribe, please visit > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial list archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Coders needed for BBC Weather New Media
Apologies again for that. As Jason rightly points out, the jobs website
has been outsourced, and is not indicative of the way we like to do
things. I will continue to feed these problems back to the people who
might be able to do something about it.
In the meantime, if anyone *is* interested in learning more about the
jobs going in my team you can do so by searching for job reference
numbers 727187 and 727190. The link to search is under "CURRENT JOBS"
in the left hand nav.
The closing date is midnight, but if you are interested in either
position and can't finish the application form in time then please drop
me a line.
Thanks,
Kass
Kathryn Schmitt
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BBC Weather Centre
2026 Television Centre
T: 020 82259448
M: 0771 7582482
www.bbc.co.uk/weather
www.bbc.co.uk/climate
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Otu Ekanem
Sent: 28 February 2007 09:25
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Coders needed for BBC Weather New Media
Again Faulty URLS.
Me thinks your http://jobs.bbc.co.uk guy/gal should have a read
at this. http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blog/welldesignedurlsarebeautiful/
I know ASP doesn't lend itself to composing beautiful URL but
there are many a solutions for working around this.
On 2/27/07, Kathryn Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sorry, I seem to have messed up with the tinyurls I gave
in my previous post. Here are the links in their gory splendour:
https://jobs.bbc.co.uk/fe/tpl_bbc01.asp?s=HqSpVAxKiZLqNnZif&jobid=13564,
2395596535&key=1658236&c=653525135614&pagestamp=sehoeqelevzzvayuna
<https://jobs.bbc.co.uk/fe/tpl_bbc01.asp?s=HqSpVAxKiZLqNnZif&jobid=13564
,2395596535&key=1658236&c=653525135614&pagestamp=sehoeqelevzzvayuna>
https://jobs.bbc.co.uk/fe/tpl_bbc01.asp?s=EnPmSXuHfWInKkWfc&jobid=13563,
3448980234&key=1658236&c=653525135614&pagestamp=seyhulndvpljmxynbh
<https://jobs.bbc.co.uk/fe/tpl_bbc01.asp?s=EnPmSXuHfWInKkWfc&jobid=13563
,3448980234&key=1658236&c=653525135614&pagestamp=seyhulndvpljmxynbh>
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www.bbc.co.uk/climate
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[backstage] Coders needed for BBC Weather New Media
Sorry, I seem to have messed up with the tinyurls I gave in my previous post. Here are the links in their gory splendour: https://jobs.bbc.co.uk/fe/tpl_bbc01.asp?s=HqSpVAxKiZLqNnZif&jobid=13564, 2395596535&key=1658236&c=653525135614&pagestamp=sehoeqelevzzvayuna https://jobs.bbc.co.uk/fe/tpl_bbc01.asp?s=EnPmSXuHfWInKkWfc&jobid=13563, 3448980234&key=1658236&c=653525135614&pagestamp=seyhulndvpljmxynbh Kathryn Schmitt Senior Developer BBC Weather Centre 2026 Television Centre T: 020 82259448 M: 0771 7582482 www.bbc.co.uk/weather www.bbc.co.uk/climate
[backstage] Coders needed for BBC Weather New Media
Hi all, I just thought I'd mention that there are 2 jobs going in my team. One is for a Client-side coder (continuing contract), and the other is for a server-side coder (6 month contract initially). The closing date for both positions is tomorrow, 28th Feb (as in, 23:59). You can learn more about these positions on the following pages: http://tinyurl.com/3brsmd http://tinyurl.com/yuweyq And I am happy to answer quick questions via email. Mail me directly please. Thanks, Kass Kathryn Schmitt Senior Developer BBC Weather Centre 2026 Television Centre T: 020 82259448 M: 0771 7582482 www.bbc.co.uk/weather www.bbc.co.uk/climate - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Weather data...not weather description
Hello Mark and backstagers, I agree that one shouldn't have to parse the weather data out of the comments. As I mentioned in my initial announcement of the weather feeds, additional semantic mark-up is on our list of things to add to the feeds. It was not in the first release because a) any namespaces used in feeds published on BBC sites have to be approved and b) I couldn't find a suitable namespace to use. I have looked at both Yahoo!'s weather extensions and the National Weather Service's, but found them both too specific to the U.S.A. In looking around on the web I have found a few discussions of possible weather namespaces, but nothing I could grab and use. If any of you have any suggestions then please let me know. In the meantime my apologies for the suboptimal solution...but I reckoned it was better than nothing. Best, Kass Kathryn Schmitt Senior Developer BBC Weather Centre 2026 Television Centre T: 020 82259448 M: 0771 7582482 www.bbc.co.uk/weather www.bbc.co.uk/climate > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Birbeck > Sent: 02 November 2006 16:05 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: [backstage] Weather data...not weather description > > Hi all, > > I tried posting to the relevant blog entry, but couldn't get > it through. > > Anyway, the RSS weather feeds nicely contain the long/lat > values as separate elements, but unfortunately they merge all > of the actual weather data into a simple text comment. It's > not very useful for reusing in other places--if you want to > float a raincloud or smiley sun icon over a Google Map (for > example) you have to first parse the text, which is kind of annoying. > > [I see that in the time it's taken me to get this message > onto the list, a thread has started about how to parse the > description. We really shouldn't be having to do this. :) ] > > Regards, > > Mark > > -- > Mark Birbeck > CEO > x-port.net Ltd. > > e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > t: +44 (0) 20 7689 9232 > w: http://www.formsPlayer.com/ > b: http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/ > > Download our XForms processor from > http://www.formsPlayer.com/ > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To > unsubscribe, please visit > http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial list archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Weather conditions?
Hi John, The complete list of weather conditions that appear on the BBC Weather site is as follows: [desc] 'clear' 'sunny' 'partly cloudy' 'sunny intervals' 'dust storm' 'misty' 'foggy' 'cloudy' 'light showers' 'drizzle' 'light rain' 'heavy showers' 'heavy rain' 'sleet showers' 'sleet' 'hail showers' 'hail' 'light snow showers' 'light snow' 'heavy snow showers' 'heavy snow' 'thundery showers' 'thunderstorm' 'tropical storm' [/desc] Best, Kass Kathryn Schmitt Senior Developer BBC Weather Centre 2026 Television Centre T: 020 82259448 M: 0771 7582482 www.bbc.co.uk/weather www.bbc.co.uk/climate > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Wards > Sent: 01 November 2006 16:27 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: [backstage] Weather conditions? > The question isam I missing any? This is more a question > to the backstage team I suppose... - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
Yes, good idea. I'll see what I can do.
Best,
Kass
Kathryn Schmitt
Senior Developer
BBC Weather Centre
2026 Television Centre
T: 020 82259448
M: 0771 7582482
www.bbc.co.uk/weather
www.bbc.co.uk/climate
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Pritchard
Sent: 18 October 2006 19:40
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
what would be useful would be some sort of listing of all areas, such as
an opml file. I don't fancy manually finding out what each of the 7379
feeds correspond to
On 18/10/06, Kathryn Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Greetings Backstagers,
I am very pleased to inform you that BBC Weather's first RSS
feeds are now live. Links to them can be found on all 5 day forecast
pages: http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
<http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml>
The feeds are located at
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/{world|id}/{location_id}.xml
<http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/%7Bworld%7Cid%7D/%7Blocation_i
d%7D.xml>
E.g. http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/2315.xml
<http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/2315.xml> and
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4567.xml
<http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4567.xml>
All of the 7379 feeds are updated at least* twice a day (at
approximately 8AM/PM *GMT*).
We are planning more feeds, and improvements to these ones as
well (e.g. dynamic generation of feeds, which will allow us to offer
different flavours such as Atom; additional content such as tide times
and current observations (Met Office willing); additional semantic
mark-up).
In the meantime we look forward to seeing your BBC Weather
widgets in the Backstage Widgets Compo:
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/widgets_competi.html
<http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/widgets_competi.html>
I have included geo:lat/long tags in all entries to facilitate
mappy mashups. Enjoy!
I look forward to hearing your comments, concerns and ideas.
Best,
Kass
Kathryn Schmitt
Senior Developer
BBC Weather Centre
2026 Television Centre
T: 020 82259448
M: 0771 7582482
www.bbc.co.uk/weather
www.bbc.co.uk/climate
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RE: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
Hi Michael,
There's a Senegalese proverb: 'Ndank ndank muy japp gollo ci nyaay':
Slowly slowly you catch the monkey in the bush.
At the moment we have only gotten permission from the Met Office to use
day 1 data in our publicly available feeds. The reason the url says
'5day' is that it is a summary of the 5day page. I apologise for any
confusion this causes.
The MO did agree (a while ago) to allow the use of all 5 days' data for
a Backstage feed, on the condition that we use a developer key system.
This is not something that the Weather Centre has the resources to
provide (our new media tech team consists of 1 software engineer (me)
and 1 client-side developer). There was talk of the Backstage team
providing a developer key system, but I do not know the current status
of that project. Perhaps Matt or Ian can say.
Our hope is that eventually the right people at the Met Office will get
excited about the implications of what we have done with their data, and
will allow us include more in the public feeds.
Best,
Kass
Kathryn Schmitt
Senior Developer
BBC Weather Centre
2026 Television Centre
T: 020 82259448
M: 0771 7582482
www.bbc.co.uk/weather
www.bbc.co.uk/climate
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Pritchard
Sent: 18 October 2006 19:46
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
also the url is a bit deceiving, seeing '5day' in the url made me think
that it would contain a 5 day forecast, but it only seems to be 1 day.
Is there any chance this could have 5 days like the url suggests?
On 18/10/06, Michael Pritchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
what would be useful would be some sort of listing of all areas,
such as an opml file. I don't fancy manually finding out what each of
the 7379 feeds correspond to
On 18/10/06, Kathryn Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Greetings Backstagers,
I am very pleased to inform you that BBC Weather's first
RSS feeds are now live. Links to them can be found on all 5 day
forecast pages: http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
<http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml>
The feeds are located at
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/{world|id}/{location_id}.xml
<http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/%7Bworld%7Cid%7D/%7Blocation_i
d%7D.xml>
E.g.
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/2315.xml
<http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/2315.xml> and
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4567.xml
<http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4567.xml>
All of the 7379 feeds are updated at least* twice a day
(at approximately 8AM/PM *GMT*).
We are planning more feeds, and improvements to these
ones as well (e.g. dynamic generation of feeds, which will allow us to
offer different flavours such as Atom; additional content such as tide
times and current observations (Met Office willing); additional semantic
mark-up).
In the meantime we look forward to seeing your BBC
Weather widgets in the Backstage Widgets Compo:
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/widgets_competi.html
<http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/widgets_competi.html>
I have included geo:lat/long tags in all entries to
facilitate mappy mashups. Enjoy!
I look forward to hearing your comments, concerns and
ideas.
Best,
Kass
Kathryn Schmitt
Senior Developer
BBC Weather Centre
2026 Television Centre
T: 020 82259448
M: 0771 7582482
www.bbc.co.uk/weather
www.bbc.co.uk/climate
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RE: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
Hey Matthew, > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew > Somerville > Sent: 19 October 2006 12:46 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: Re: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy! > My first comment is that, whereas the mass of feeds is fine > if you just want to pick one and subscribe to it or put it on > your web site, there seems to be a lot of duplication overall > (I thought I remembered reading a post about the mapping of > postcodes to forecasts, but I can't find it now :-/ ). For It was on a different mailing list, that's why. I'll repeat it now, with some bonus info for the curious. The BBC Weather Centre receives global weather model output from the Met Office twice a day. The output from the midnight run arrives at around 0800GMT and the noon run output arrives around 2000GMT. The TV graphics team use a bunch of data files with sufficient resolution to produce the 3D graphics that we all know and love|hate (delete as appropriate). On the new media side we use a data file that contains 5day forecast information for 4300 weather observations stations throughout the world. Of those 4300 obs stations, approximately 300 are in the UK. As Matthew has very astutely observed, we appear to provide forecasts for over 3000 places in the UK, but in fact each one of these UK locations uses data from the most appropriate obs station of the 300. 'Appropriate' is often, but not always, the closest obs station geographically. There are factors (meteorological, topological) that sometimes result in the most appropriate obs station being one that is not the closest one to a given location. We rely on the Met Office to make these judgements, but as you can probably imagine, with over 3000 locations to assign, the process is prone to error. I am in the middle of auditing the UK locations -> obs station mapping, which involves making lots of maps similar to the one you've done, and compiling a list of mappings that look suspicious. I will then be sending that off to the Met Office so that they can fix or explain. > I've noddily plotted these on a Google Map: > http://www.dracos.co.uk/play/bbc-weather-map/ > from which I work out that the world feed's location (the one > in yellow) is presumably the location of the weather station, > not Aberdeen. :-) Indeed. > Searching for a Aberdeen postcode gives one of the above > feeds (though see below), searching for Aberdeen gives > id/1000, whereas going through the UK map - > http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ukweather/sscotland/ - gives world/0014. > Is there a reason that the postcode searches don't just map > to a single feed for Aberdeen, e.g. the world one? I guess > the current answer for a hypothetical backstage developer is > just to use the world feed, but then it's hard to work > out/get e.g. just the Scottish feeds. I should be able to provide a list of world feeds by nation for the UK. > Secondly, still on Aberdeen, there are two locations with > (currently) different forecasts with exactly the same co-ordinates: > AB14 (Aberdeen/Peterculter): > http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1005.xml > http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1006.xml > and AB13 (Aberdeen/Milltimber): > http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1003.xml > http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1004.xml > I presume that local changes are made to the non-Aberdeen > locations because of some other information, but this does > make it look a bit odd. :) I'll put this on my list of queried mappings. Thanks, Kass Kathryn Schmitt Senior Developer BBC Weather Centre 2026 Television Centre T: 020 82259448 M: 0771 7582482 www.bbc.co.uk/weather www.bbc.co.uk/climate - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
Title: Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
Greetings Backstagers,
I am very pleased to inform you that BBC Weather's first RSS feeds are now live. Links to them can be found on all 5 day forecast pages: http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
The feeds are located at http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/{world|id}/{location_id}.xml
E.g. http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/2315.xml and http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4567.xml
All of the 7379 feeds are updated at least* twice a day (at approximately 8AM/PM *GMT*).
We are planning more feeds, and improvements to these ones as well (e.g. dynamic generation of feeds, which will allow us to offer different flavours such as Atom; additional content such as tide times and current observations (Met Office willing); additional semantic mark-up).
In the meantime we look forward to seeing your BBC Weather widgets in the Backstage Widgets Compo: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/widgets_competi.html
I have included geo:lat/long tags in all entries to facilitate mappy mashups. Enjoy!
I look forward to hearing your comments, concerns and ideas.
Best,
Kass
Kathryn Schmitt
Senior Developer
BBC Weather Centre
2026 Television Centre
T: 020 82259448
M: 0771 7582482
www.bbc.co.uk/weather
www.bbc.co.uk/climate
