Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
Hi Mo, Your questionnaire doesn't seem to have any provision for people to answer that they are not doing anything about. To clarify: you only want submissions from people actively considering, deploying or who have deployed? regards Matt PS: I've no idea about what the BBC is or is not doing with regards to IPv6. On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:37:16 +0100, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: Happy Friday 13th Everybody! This month, I'm running a short questionnaire (should only take a couple of minutes to complete) on IPv6 planning and adoption in the UK. Not the most exciting of topics, I realise, but *quite* important in some respects. Some of you will undoubtedly have seen this mentioned elsewhere, and may even have filled it in (if so, thanks!). For the rest, though, I'd appreciate it if you could take a couple of minutes to have a look. Some answers from within bits of the BBC would be grand if it's at all possible, but I know it's relevant to a number of others on the list, too. You can find the questionnaire at: https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDc3MzV3ZjVKdUZuY2NkQm1BakdJQkE6MQ I'll be closing it on Friday 3rd September in time for UKNOF17 (http://uknof.org.uk/) -- I'm not presenting the results, but I will be publishing the stats in time for the meeting on the offchance that there are related sessions on the agenda. Cheers! M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, BBC RD, Centre House, London | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] IPv6 questionnaire
Hi Mo, I was looking at the question: What is your current level of IPv6 deployment?. Either you've added the No plans at all question, or I missed it first time around! Either way, I have no concerns about this now. cheers Matt On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:13:43 +0100, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:48, Matt Hammond matt.hamm...@rd.bbc.co.uk wrote: Your questionnaire doesn't seem to have any provision for people to answer that they are not doing anything about. To clarify: you only want submissions from people actively considering, deploying or who have deployed? All of the above, if at all possible! Which question was troubling you -- I can tweak the answers if needs-be? PS: I've no idea about what the BBC is or is not doing with regards to IPv6. Neither do I, and that's worrying me somewhat. I would imagine that the negotiations required will be... horrible, given the various levels outsourcingness. Cheers, M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, BBC RD, Centre House, London | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Shortcomings of Ogg
Just came across this nice analysis of the shortcomings of the Ogg container format. I remember a colleague of mine swearing and cursing a few years ago when trying to parse and make sense of it :-) http://hardwarebug.org/2010/03/03/ogg-objections/ Note that this is about Ogg, NOT the vorbis audio codec. Matt -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, BBC RD, Centre House, London | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Move to Mailman
Mailing lists are a much more developer friendly approach. Probably the most common mechanisms out there in the many developer communities (When in Rome...). Matt On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:55:29 -, Nick Reynolds-FMT nick.reyno...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Why don't you set up an onshore BBC message board instead? -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Stephen Jolly Sent: 03 March 2010 17:32 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Move to Mailman On 3 Mar 2010, at 17:04, Ian Forrester wrote: Alright alright! I hear you all... So what's the first steps to make this happen? You could walk down to my end of the office and ask me about it? :-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, BBC RD, Centre House, London | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Websites to get Panic Buttons
I was thinking the same thing. Which perhaps leads to some interesting possibilities: At its simplest, it could be simply the act of making it mandatory to have 'report abuse' links and a requirement to make them more prominent, and to change the wording. Another possibility is that the functionality is different. Could it lead to a requirement for mandatory blocking of the content until a moderator looks at it? For me, this scenario would raise the question of how to balance the facility provided against ways it can be abused to block content in unwarranted situations (perhaps a form of bullying itself?) Will there be requirements for fast response? If this scenario proved correct, it could be an indirect way to mandate services having larger numbers of staff actively patrolling; or responding in a call-centre like fashion to alerts. Matt On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:53:21 -, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 13:35, Lee Ball l...@leenukes.co.uk wrote: Seems like a good idea for me: Facebook and other social networking websites are to install panic buttons so children can alert the sites' operators if obscene or inappropriate material is posted. http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article6946162.ece There is a chance this could be abused though. There is, certainly. That said, I’m not sure how this is especially different from the “Report Abuse” links attached to pretty much everything on every social networking site in existence. Smells like a PR campaign. M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Changes to the list
Another vote for mailman. On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:54:32 +0100, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Hi all, We're making some changes to the whole way backstage is setup and one of those changes would affect this list directly. MajorDomo is a pain and lacks the lovely new shiny features of things like automatic archive, rss, thread notification, search, etc. But it does have the advantage of email delivery, open and free signup. So if we did decide to switch mailing system/message board, which one would you all prefer? Secret[] Private[] Public[x] Ian Forrester Senior Backstage Producer, BBC RD 01612444063 | 07711913293 ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Changes to the list
Lets not forget to include a mandatory signup for an MSN Passport or Google account or Yahoo ID ... even just to be able to browse ;-) Matt On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:43:59 +0100, Fearghas McKay fm-li...@st-kilda.org wrote: On 20 Oct 2009, at 13:31, Andrew Bowden wrote: In that case, I think it should be a web forum :) Preferably requiring IE6 and an activeX component in order to function. Normal service is now resumed ;-) f - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Disconected from internet
OUTLAW radio has some comments on whether a European law ruling may overshadow this proposal: http://www.out-law.com/page-10331 Matt On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:29:05 +0100, Glyn Wintle glynwin...@yahoo.com wrote: Open Rights Group, Which?, talktalk, BT, Consumer Focus and Orange responding to the governments plans to disconnect users from the internet because some one has _accused_ them of infringing copyright. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/letters/article6819093.ece Sir, We agree that the creative industries play an important role in the UK and understand the challenge that illegal filesharing presents (letter, Sept 1). We do not condone or encourage such activity, but we are concerned that the Government’s latest proposals on the how to reduce illegal filesharing are misconceived and threaten broadband consumers’ rights and the development of new attractive services. Experience in other countries suggests that pursuing such an approach can result in significant consumer resistance. Any new policy must be considered very carefully. Any decision to move to harsh and punitive measures such as disconnection must be genuinely underpinned by rigorous and objective assessment by Ofcom. Consumers must be presumed to be innocent unless proven guilty. We must avoid an extrajudicial “kangaroo court” process where evidence is not tested properly and accused broadband users are denied the right to defend themselves against false accusations. Without these protections innocent customers will suffer. Any penalty must be proportionate. Disconnecting users from the internet would place serious limits on their freedom of expression. Usually, constraints to freedom of expression are imposed only as the result of custodial sentences, or incitement to racial hatred, or libel. The proposal that internet service providers — and by implication broadband customers — should pay most of the cost of these measures to support the creative industries is grossly unfair since the vast majority of consumers do not fileshare illegally. Further, this payment approach would discourage content industries from developing new services. We hope that the Government will consider genuinely consumers’ rights in its endeavours to protect the creative industries. Charles Dunstone, talktalk Ian Livingston, BT Jim Killock, Open Rights Group Ed Mayo, Consumer Focus Deborah Prince, Which? Tom Alexander, Orange UK - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] No link to feeds from the new (beta) blog?
Ta. Found the URL - my comment was more a roundabout way of suggesting you add a link to the navigation bar at the top - eg. Home|Event|News|Ideas|Feeds APIs|Prototype Matt On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:20:59 +0100, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Good point, we were building it up and forgot to add them. http://ideas.welcomebackstage.com/data Ian Forrester This e-mail is: []secret; [x]private; []public Senior Producer, BBC Backstage, BBC RD Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk work: +44 (0)1612444063 | mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Matt Hammond Sent: 10 June 2009 16:39 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] No link to feeds from the new (beta) blog? http://welcomebackstage.com/ ... very pretty (I genuinely mean that as a compliment!) ... but I can't see a link to the feeds/data pages. Matt -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] No link to feeds from the new (beta) blog?
http://welcomebackstage.com/ ... very pretty (I genuinely mean that as a compliment!) ... but I can't see a link to the feeds/data pages. Matt -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] [Fwd: [ubuntu-uk] bbc listen again anomaly]
Annecdotally, I think I've found that the stability of the flash plugin
has greatly improved for me since upgrading to 9.04. That said, I use
Opera.
Matt
On Thu, 28 May 2009 17:12:42 +0100, Andy stude.l...@googlemail.com wrote:
2009/5/28 Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net:
Anyone got any ideas here? It might be Ubuntu or Flash on Ubuntu
related but
any thoughts would be welcome. :)
When I open the link specified I get the following error message:
Could not find an appropriate hxplay or realplay in the system path
to use as an embedded player
Oddly part of the page is actually Flash.
If it helps the Flash App identifies itself as:
BBC Media Player v.2.12.8812.8903
FF Version is 3.0.10
Ubuntu 8.10
Flash Version (according to about:plugins)
File name: libflashplayer.so
Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22
It is NOT in low quality mode either.
I have tried a different programme, still launched from /programmes
and it plays (but the Flash player crashed when I click the name of
the player, but it didn't happen once I rebooted, odd). Of note is the
fact then with the working stream (i.e. Flash not Real), the Flash
player displays the PID and media type in the right click menu,
(b00kgfb0 | aac | LI),however he stream that tries to launch real
fails. (although I have Real player installed at some point).
I have also observed this problem after launching the programme in
iplayer directly (i.e. not the popout version):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00kkdkm/The_Michael_Bentine_Show_22_05_2009/
In the source to that page is the following Javascript:
iplayer.semp.setMetaFiles({
flash: {
playlist: ,
mp3: false,
aac: false
},
real:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/aod/playlists/fx/ck/k0/0b/RadioBridge_uk_1130_bbc_7.ram;,
wmp:
});
Is this a simple case of the file not being transcoded to MP3/AAC and
only being available in RAM.
Has the transcoding server fallen over or are some programmes just not
available in non-Realplayer formats?
So the problem appears to be 2 fold,
1. The BBC are only supplying real media format
2. FF can't seem to handle these files.
I can't actually tell what is looking for Realplayer, is it FF, or the
BBC Flash Media Player?
If the later then this isentirely a BBC problem and should be fixed
(although they may just wait 20 hours and fix it by removing the
programme, till it happens to something else, at which point they just
repeat).
If it is an FF problem it's exceptionally hard to fix, we have 20
hours to find the cause and get it fixed and tested before the stream
is killed, any chance the Beeb could remove this limit to allow the
problem to be investigated?
FF claims it know about Real Player as a plugin, however I don't have
'hxplay' or 'realplay' in the system path. Is the BBC player looking
for the specific binaries instead of a plugin?
I wonder what happens if you make a shell script called hxplay or
realplay?
I appear to have a realplay file, but not on the system path. I'll try
adding it to the path, however it will probably require restarting FF.
Thanks
Andy
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Re: [backstage] Press Association API?
To remove yourself from the mailing list, go to this webpage: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:16:07 -, TRYPHENA BRADE tryphenaconsultancymark...@hotmail.com wrote: Please arrange for my email address to be removed from backstage Thanks Subject: RE: [backstage] Press Association API? Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:00:49 + From: ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk We're changing the urls of a lot of things and expect to have it launched this month. Sorry for the delay Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Martin Deutsch Sent: 09 February 2009 16:03 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Press Association API? Just dug this out to have a quick look at it, and it seems that api.welcomebackstage.com doesn't exist - any clues about where we could find the data? Thanks, Martin On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Ok ok, It does exist, the delay has mainly been on our behalf due to wanting to launch most of this stuff all together. I can announce the documentation for the API - http://ideas.welcomebackstage.com/node/2 But right now, the API is being tested on another server. At some point in the next few weeks, we'll move the end point to api.welcomebackstage.com. Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Scott Sent: 02 November 2008 13:18 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Press Association API? Hi all, I'm trying to track down the Press Association API, which was announced as imminent months ago (http://snurl.com/4xlfr) - does it exist yet? And if not, does anyone know when it'll happen? It'd come in very handy for a project idea I've got... Cheers, Tom - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ _ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. Get started! http://www.download.live.com/ -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Competition Commission bounces Project Kangeroo
Wasn't the point of Kangaroo that it would offer programmes for sale, after the time-window for iPlayer-style catch-up services had expired? I'm not sure. I thought it was supposed to be some standard for IPTV set top boxes, but all the reports make it out to be an extended version of iPlayer. Maybe you're thinking of http://www.google.com/search?q=project+canvas Matt -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPlayer caching
I was also able to use it last night (eventually) successfully on Intrepid. Did have a few problems at first though with a clash between the distro's flash plugin and trying to install the latest direct from adobe. Got there in the end though. Matt On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:57:46 -, Adam Leach add...@ask-adders.com wrote: On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 21:06 +, Andy wrote: 2008/12/18 Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv: And with Adobe's AIR on Linux. [ducks again] It's NOT on Linux. It's on 3 specific distribution versions of Linux. Fedora Core 8, Ubuntu 7.10, openSUSE 10.3 From http://www.adobe.com/products/air/systemreqs/ Ubuntu 7.10 isn't the newest version, neither is it a Long Term Support version, support for 7.10 will be terminated in April 09[1]. This rules out most Ubuntu users who will not be on this version. The newest version of Ubuntu is 8.10[2] (2 versions newer than 7.10). I don't know about Fedora or OpenSuSE, but iPlayer desktop works on Ubuntu Intepid Ibex (8.10). The BBC iPlayer desktop will probably not install on previous versions of Ubuntu as it requires Flash 10 to be installed and that was only released recently. I'm just watching Never Mind the Buzzcocks (http://tinyurl.com/5stc6v) . Shame there doesn't seem to be many programs available for download yet. I'm really impressed with the AIR client, shame you can't browse an available list of programs in the app. Thanks Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: iPlayer on Linux Re: [backstage] iPlayer caching
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbiplayer/F7331803?thread=6164338 Aside: forgot to mention: I was using it successfully with Opera 10 alpha 1 and firefox 3 Matt On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:28:22 -, David Greaves da...@dgreaves.com wrote: Andy wrote: 2008/12/18 Andy stude.l...@googlemail.com: When is the actual platform neutral iPlayer coming out? Apparently this is the platform neutral version The cross-platform nature of Adobe AIR means the iPlayer will work with Open Source and Apple Mac computers out of the box on 18 December, said Mr Rose. It fulfilled the Trust's demand that the iPlayer be platform neutral, he said. Can someone here by me a better dictionary for Christmas, that doesn't match with what I thought neutral ment? The most appropriate definition for neutra I found is not supporting or favoring either side in a war, dispute, or contest[1]. Whats the BBC's definition of neutral? Can someone please explain how this is not favouring certain platforms? I run Debian. It's a fairly popular distro, some of you may have heard of it. But iPlayer doesn't appear to work on my system :( I went to http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ Then I went to the Labs. It says You are signed up for BBC iPlayer Labs. Start using iPlayer labs features. I did find http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/where_to_get_iplayer/ After about 200 clicks I gave up on finding a download of any kind. Then it just plays online and has nothing helpful to say about working offline. I didn't find anything on the BBC to tell me what to do. Now I guess I need to go elsewhere for AIR and then it will magically work - but where? I did get Our servers are too busy. Please try again later. a lot though. David -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] a postive BBC news story - Matthew Postgate's appointment bodes well for a new BBC tech era
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:56:14 -, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2008/oct/29/bbc-research Matthew Postgate http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/matthew_postgate/'s appointment as controller of the *BBC's* research and innovation department is, at last, great news for the BBC 's tech department... It's nice that people still care. :-) Seconded :-) -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday
Just came across this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YFw9p0TjT8 Midway through this video (@ 1m40s), it fairly clearly implies there might actually be a proper magnetic compass in the G1 after all. The guys says you can spin around on the spot to rotate the Google Street View viewpoint. Thats rather nifty :-) Matt -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] TV Schedule web api
I'm looking at trying to add TV-Anytime as a format to /programmes. Out of interest, I'd be interested to know what api calls you, or any others, are/were planning on using, and what parts of the data you would be extracting. As is inevitably the case, for some parts of TV-Anytime format, there is a clean mapping from data in the /programmes back-end, but for others it is less clear! regards Matt On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:51:22 -, Chris Newell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 15:05 2008-10-27, you wrote: I was wondering if anyone knew if this web scheduling api was actively maintained http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/ Anthony, The API is maintained but we would encourage you to use http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/developers for new applications. My question inparticular is: If anyone minded if it was used directly by a user application, or would prefer if the results from it were cached in a file ? Many people use the API directly but you can also download bulk data files from: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/ Cheers, Chris - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday
The impression I've gotten is that the distinguishing features of Android are that: * it is a fresh, relatively clean, publicly documented API (as opposed to the legacy cruft of the APIs on Windows and other platforms) * greater egalatarianism between apps - ie. you can replace functionality of built in apps - such as messaging/phone (though if an operator chooses to lock it down?...) * nice high level funky app services built in too - such as google maps, location etc. that make it easy to embed (mashup?) these capabilities into your own applications? Matt On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:44:01 +0100, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright so maybe it might be possible to do a so-so compass with a GPS device but... Once again, a reason for the non-geeks to buy the Dream/G1/1st Gphone? Or maybe there isn't one and its truly a phone for geeks and geeks alone? Damm you Orange for not getting the contract. Really don't want to switch contracts yet. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Brian Butterworth Sent: Thu 9/25/2008 8:06 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday I know it took less that 15 seconds of Google, but... http://www.speakesensors.com/PDF/scl0041.pdf 2008/9/24 Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] It can't be a compass directly, but many GPS receivers can show you your direction of travel on a compass-like display. I seem to remember my N95 has a pretty good compass in it. GPS+accelerometer = standing-still compass. Phil - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] The Wrong Door - 3D Flash
Almost certainly using Papervision3d http://code.google.com/p/papervision3d/ Very impressive set of libraries. On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:06:31 +0100, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just been looking at http://www.bbc.co.uk/wrongdoor/ Does anyone know how this 3D Flash is done? Ta Brian -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] erik huggers on open standards
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:33:04 +0100, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AAC and H264 are patent encumbered, so the idea that they are open standards seems wishful thinking on Erik's part to me; they are merely popular. Different groups of people take the term Open Standard to mean different things: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_standard (Personally speaking, I prefer the definition Dave implies) Matt -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Playground1 Status Update
Hi Dave, Many thanks for keeping us updated. Matt On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:18:31 +0100, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Sorry that I haven't been responsive; naturally this happens the weekend I'm in Cannes ;-) All but one VM is now up (pima) and the ISP continues to investigate; appended is their description of their fault finding efforts so far. - - - 8 - - - From: Peter Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/8/10 Subject: Re: playground1.welcomebackstage.com down! To: Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. For now I reset the root password to I can access the server via the console. I am not able to ping out. ethtool eth0 reports link. administratively shutting down the port on the switch and it shows no link (then I re-enabled the port). I see no relevant error messages in /var/log/messages. The route table looks OK. I stopped/flushed iptables . I tried the older xen kernel. Then I tried a recent non-xen kernel from the grub list. I'm not really sure what the problem is. I'm attaching another network cable to the server's other nic and seeing if I can configure that to work. After that extra cable was plugged in, and for no other reason I can think of, and after no other change was made that I can think of, dmesg reported that eth0 became ready and the IP is now pinging. I reported the server into the latest/newest Xen kernel. And it still pings/works there. It is late/early here. I'll leave things as they are now. And reflect on this a bit to see if I can figure out what happened. But as things stand now it should all be back up and working for you. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC Look East HTML rich newsletter
Actually, CSS stylesheets are fully supported by Outlook, Outlook Express, and Thunderbird at least, and I am using CSS to generate size-efficient HTML emails that use the stylesheets from the website (though obviously, the path to the css file needs to be a full absolute URL) - do you still have an email client that doesn't support CSS, if so, what is it? I've many colleagues who use pure text based email clients for a range of convenience reasons eg. keeping everything on the server, and access being *super* speedy being a purely textual interface. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_(e-mail_client) Also, I suspect, many people get irritated by when html/css email is done poorly or abused (I've seen email sigs cut-pasted straight from MS Word filling several screenfuls of poorly coded rubbish) On an accessibility front, does anyone know how email clients fare with dealing with CSS for the blind, or users with poor vision? many bits of bbc.co.uk provide an 'accessible' mode, though I'm not sure if this is done by applying an alternative stylesheet or something more complex: http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/index.shtml?myway_sub http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/index.shtml?hiviz In Opera browser (and in the built in mail client) you can turn off or override stylesheets; but I've not seen this feature in many other places. Matt -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Freesat info for open source projects
Hi David, The Freesat platform is being set up and managed by a separate company (of the same name) that has been set up by those participating (BBC, ITV etc). I've asked around the team at RD who are working with them on the technical infrastructure and specifications. Unfortunately it looks like the information you're after will not be widely available (at least not yet). What I've been able to establish is that Freesat identified the need to guarantee a supply of compliant set top boxes at launch. A group of manufacturers have agreed to do so, but only in exchange for a limited term of exclusive access to the specification. I have no idea what the length of this exclusivity arrangement will be. Personally, I would very much like to see these specs eventually opened up - we've certainly benefited from many of the open-source developments for DVB-T / Freeview. I believe Freesat are aware of this consideration, so I'm hoping it will be something they eventually choose to do. This is as much as I have been able to find out for you. Apologies for it taking a little while. Matt On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:58:55 -, David Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if this is the right place to ask but I was wondering if there was information available about the technical details of Freesat that could be used in open source projects. Specifically, I wrote and maintain the MHEG engine that is used in MythTV. It appears that the BBC has started test transmissions on satellite of the MHEG interactive service. It's possible to view much of this using the current code in MythTV but it seems that the profile on Freesat is a superset of the Freeview profile so not everything works. Presumably information about this is available to the builders of set-top boxes but it would be nice if it could be available for open-source projects. There have also been references to the EPG information being transmitted but again there is nothing publicly available about how to decode it. Incidentally, I've been working on a translation of the MHEG engine from its original C++ into Java to produce an application/applet for viewing MHEG offline or via HTTP. I'm rather short of MHEG test programs although I have recorded some of the carousels off air. Does the BBC have some test programs available? David. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: Licensing of BBC open source code (was RE: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software)
An alternative is to license under both GPL and LGPL - the BBC has done this for other projects in the past. Dor example, for libraries/frameworks that we would want others to embed into their systems; LGPL allows static linking without requiring the code it links with to also be released under GPL. Matt On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:57:26 -, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05/12/2007, Brendan Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We haven't used a custom license for releasing code yet, and I don't see why we should start now... http://www.bbc.co.uk/opensource/licensing.shtml Fair enough, in that case for this project the BSD or Apache licenses make the most sense as to use. The reason being (as I understand it*) that to use the GPL would mean that anything written with Pearl on Rails would then have to be licensed using the GPL; this would be grossly unfair to developers who should be free to license their own software as they see fit. *If I am wrong on this point please correct me, the 'viral' part of the GPL has always confused me. Vijay. -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: Licensing of BBC open source code (was RE: [backstage] Please release Perl on Rails as Free Software)
Sorry - ignore this - just seen other posts in this thread that cover this point far better than I can :-) Matt On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:22:09 -, Matt Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An alternative is to license under both GPL and LGPL - the BBC has done this for other projects in the past. Dor example, for libraries/frameworks that we would want others to embed into their systems; LGPL allows static linking without requiring the code it links with to also be released under GPL. Matt On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:57:26 -, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05/12/2007, Brendan Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We haven't used a custom license for releasing code yet, and I don't see why we should start now... http://www.bbc.co.uk/opensource/licensing.shtml Fair enough, in that case for this project the BSD or Apache licenses make the most sense as to use. The reason being (as I understand it*) that to use the GPL would mean that anything written with Pearl on Rails would then have to be licensed using the GPL; this would be grossly unfair to developers who should be free to license their own software as they see fit. *If I am wrong on this point please correct me, the 'viral' part of the GPL has always confused me. Vijay. -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:54:03 -, David Greaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Hammond wrote: The statements attributes to Ashley Highfield seem to talk about *users* (eg. measured as unique cookies) whereas the other numbers we're comparing against here are being described as usage and hits. Just thought I'd point it out before we get in a mess :-) Still comparing apples and apples though: We have 17.1 million users of bbc.co.uk in the UK ... and around 400 to 600 are Linux users. So there does appear to be a mess somewhere... If the usage profile of those linux users is broadly comparable to those of the other platforms you're probably right. One other thought: Ashley Highfield's comments may only relate to the main www.bbc.co.uk site - excluding BBC news. Historically the news have run and managed a separate operation iirc (though that may now be changing). Site stats were (are still?) collected separately for the two. What if, like myself, other linux users tend to visit news.bbc.co.uk but not www.bbc.co.uk? Matt -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again
That said, I also reckon 400-600 sounds far too low! Matt On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:52:54 -, Matt Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The statements attributes to Ashley Highfield seem to talk about *users* (eg. measured as unique cookies) whereas the other numbers we're comparing against here are being described as usage and hits. Just thought I'd point it out before we get in a mess :-) Matt On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:38:19 -, vijay chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for that, I was pretty certain there was a mistake somewhere as I said, I'd expect for a site as big as bbc.co.uk to get more than 4-600 hits from people on their mobile phones (I have a low-tech Nokia 60-70, and even it's capable of viewing the beebs site, add opera mini and most of the web is available). Now the question is the mistake in the reporting or in Ashley's comments; either mistakenly or, as the conspiracy nuts will no doubt think, on purpose. Vijay. On 01/11/2007, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been discussing this in the office, so I did some sums Having a look at various (non-BBC) site stats I have access to, I'm seeing a 3-4% market share. Now on some of them, I know I'm counting towards those stats, but one particular site (with a 3.6% Linux usage) I don't look at regularly (I just fix broken code on rare occassions). Even if we say bbc.co.uk has a 2% Linux usage, that's 340,000 users. And if we say that bbc.co.uk has a 0.1% Linux usage, that's 17,000. Some stats have put Linux desktop usage at as low as 0.26%, so even if we take the 0.1% figure, I'd expect a lot more than 400-600! I have a feeling that there's been a bit of a mistake made somewhere down the line :) -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cmtf=0[EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cmtf=0[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *vijay chopra *Sent:* 01 November 2007 16:52 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.ukhttps://mail.google.com/mail?view=cmtf=0[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again Just read thishttp://www.tech.co.uk/computing/internet-and-broadband/news/bbc-not-in-bed-with-bill-gates-over-iplayer?articleid=36522951 interview with Mr Highfield Highfield used the numbers of non-Windows users visiting bbc.co.uk as justification for the corporation's XP-only release. We have 17.1 million users of bbc.co.uk in the UK and, as far as our server logs can make out, 5 per cent of those [use Macs] and around 400 to 600 are Linux users. (via slashdot http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/01/133259) Have tech.co.uk missed out a zero as I can't believe that the number of Linux users is that low, I'd expect more people to visit the site on their mobile phones than that. Unless perhaps most do as I do and go straight to news.bbc.co.uk and bypass bbc.co.uk entirely (in which case using those numbers as justification for ignoring iPlayer on Linux is bizarre; perhaps some more research into your audience is in order?). Though it feels good to be a member of such an exclusive club, can we have the number of Linux users visiting news.bbc.co.uk please? That way we can see if Mr Highfield's claims stand up to scrutiny. Vijay. -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Nintendo to open up Wii console
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:55:36 +0100, Mr I Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best use of the wiimote so far - http://cubicgarden.blip.tv/file/271382/ Djing with a Wiimote. I ran out and got a wiimote after seeing this but I can't get it working with my new Dell :( I've found windows bluetooth drivers have a tendency to be extremely fussy over the connection process. I reckon this is becuase the wiimote doesn't pair with the other bluetooth device - it simply connects. I've not tried other platforms. If you are using windows, try little things like starting the process from the right-click context menu of the bluetooth system tray icon, rather than the desktop/my-computer link (or vis-versa). Ridiculous, but it does seem to help in the case of some of the belkin USB bluetooth dongles I've tried :-) Matt -- | Matt Hammond | Research Engineer, FMT, BBC, Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, UK | http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
