[backstage] BBC local radio still has Olympics blocks on international listeners
Just in case someone knows someone who knows someone who can get this resolved ... The streams of BBC Local radio are still blocked (replaced with the standard content not available at this time message). The iPlayer FAQ entry about content not being available during Olympics has been removed .. so I presume that the block should have been as well. Will it be imposed again during Paralympics? I verified using IP address in France and tried BBC London, Devon and Mersey - to their WMA streams. Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC local radio still has Olympics blocks on international listeners
Ah - thanks. I was sure I searched the FAQ but must have made a mistake with the terms I used. The old Olympics entry still turns up in the search results but returns a not found. http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/announcements/london2012_radio_online Interestingly the FAQ search function gives a possible clue about what the technical reason might be for not resuming streaming in the 3 weeks between the events ... perhaps induced by the GB gold spree ... when searching for Paralympics is asks if I meant Paralytics! Paul Sent while mobile (swinging in a hammock in France) On 17 Aug 2012, at 16:07, Jeremy Stone jem.st...@bbc.co.uk wrote: From the iPlayer FAQs “BBC Nations and Local Radio live streams will feature Paralympics coverage and therefore will be unavailable to international audiences (this applies to all Nations and Local Radio stations except Radio Cymru which remains available internationally live and on-demand). For technical reasons it is not possible to reinstate international availability of live streams between the Olympics and the Paralympics. Normal availability for international audiences will return a few days after the games on Friday 14 September.” http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/announcements/radio_online_paralympics *my italics On 17/08/2012 14:54, Andy Armstrong a...@hexten.net wrote: On 17 Aug 2012, at 14:31, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote: Just in case someone knows someone who knows someone who can get this resolved ... The streams of BBC Local radio are still blocked (replaced with the standard content not available at this time message). The iPlayer FAQ entry about content not being available during Olympics has been removed .. so I presume that the block should have been as well. Will it be imposed again during Paralympics? I verified using IP address in France and tried BBC London, Devon and Mersey - to their WMA streams. hat class=bbcI don't know the answer but I've asked someone who should./hat Sucks dunnit? Apologies. -- Andy Armstrong, Hexten - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. -
[backstage] Generation of /programmes XML changed?
I'm not certain of this one yet - but from some overnight error messages on my system it looks like the /programmes XML generator is sometimes not including the service/service section that usually appears near the start. Usually starts something like this: ?xml version=1.0? schedule service type=radio key=radiodevon titleBBC Radio Manchester/title /service but I had some arrive without the service section. I need to do some more investigation to be sure - bubt maybe someone at BBC would know if there have been recent changes that could effect URLs like this http://www.bbc.co.uk/radiomanchester/programmes/schedules/2012/07/05.xml (note - it doesn't happen all of the time) Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Generation of /programmes XML changed?
Hmmm ... if I modify my script to always give a user-agent something like Mozilla/5.0 then it always works. If I don't (so it goes out with a user-agent something like ... Lynx) then sometimes I do not get the correct opening section of the XML. Paul Webster On Thu, 05 Jul 2012 12:03:54 +0100, you wrote: I'm not certain of this one yet - but from some overnight error messages on my system it looks like the /programmes XML generator is sometimes not including the service/service section that usually appears near the start. Usually starts something like this: ?xml version=1.0? schedule service type=radio key=radiodevon titleBBC Radio Manchester/title /service but I had some arrive without the service section. I need to do some more investigation to be sure - bubt maybe someone at BBC would know if there have been recent changes that could effect URLs like this http://www.bbc.co.uk/radiomanchester/programmes/schedules/2012/07/05.xml (note - it doesn't happen all of the time) Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] BBC Radio Scotland - WMA stream broken
Just in case anyone here has access to the people who provide the WMA stream, as used by Internet radios (and not the AAC used by iPlayer) ... BBC Radio Scotland stream is down (and has been all day). http://bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/rs.asx BBC Radio Wales is working fine http://bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/rw.asx Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Anybody know about this?
I guess that he might really be building a news mashup site - there are a lot of other news sites that the same sort of thing happens with. * Archive Site: www.cnn.com http://www.cnn.com.news-channel.org/ * Archive Site: www.foxnews.com http://www.foxnews.com.news-channel.org/ * Archive Site: www.bbc.co.uk http://www.bbc.co.uk.news-channel.org/ * Archive Site: www.pbs.org http://www.pbs.org.news-channel.org/ * Archive Site: www.eurekalert.org http://www.eurekalert.org.news-channel.org/ * Archive Site: www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com.news-channel.org/ * Archive Site: www.reuters.com http://www.reuters.com.news-channel.org/ * Archive Site: www.tmz.com http://www.tmz.com.news-channel.org/ I doubt that the content owners have sanctioned it Paul On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:57:42 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: I'd vote a little more nefarious myself. Visiting the root news-channel.org renders an empty page (no errors). Visiting the same with the googlebot user-agent renders irrelevant filler text + link bait (including one to www.news.bbc.co.uk.news-channel). An entire site that only answers to googlebot is rarely a good sign. Shaun On 02 Jul, 2010,at 05:27 PM, Anthony McKale anthony.mck...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I saw that too recently... wierd On 02/07/2010 16:23, Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk wrote: Just searched for Beryl Bainbridge BBC Four Documentary in Google, and amongst results this popped up: BBC - BBC Four Programmes - Beryl's Last Year 24 Mar 2010 ... Novelist Dame Beryl Bainbridge makes a record of her life, convinced she is about ... BBC Four: Audio Interviews - Beryl Bainbridge (1934 - ... www.bbc.co.uk.news-channel.org/programmes/b007mw91 - Cached Notice the dodgy URL? Going to it yields a 503 error. A whois on the domain reveals it's registered to one Carl Andersson (of Advancen Pty Ltd) in Australia. Anybody know if this is this a legit beta mashup which has found its way into Google or is it something a little more nefarious? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management
On 16 Jun 2010, at 07:11, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: It's only on the EPG anyway, even Windows Media Centre will bypass it, as it uses the DigiGuide one. Or record the whole audio-video stream and use an edit package. Or pause/record the old fashioned way. Deviation from the main topic - sorry - but I don't think WMC uses DigiGuide data (at least - it never used to). BDS was (and still is?) the original supplier to MS. History - that I might have a bit wrong ... BDS was owned by BBC and ITV then in 2005 became part of BBC Broadcast and is now is part of RedBee (Macquarie Bank Group). Paul - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Freeview HD Content Management
Panasonic HD avert on ITV right after the match just now said record HD TV (Freesat or Freeview) to BluRay and save forever Paul
Re: [backstage] Developer: Parsing AOD xml, and which PID is permanent?
I have asked a similar thing in the past (when I was adding BBC Local Radio programme information into User Channels in DigiGuide) and was told that the only way to get it was to issue fetch for each individual programme rather than try to get it in a single listing for a given day. Was too much like hard work for me - so I stayed with the short version. Paul On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:56:14 +0100, you wrote: Thanks Mo Paul, I've done a bit of playing with the BBC website, and, indeed, the b007k1sk link works in http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007k1sk, which tells you of all the previous broadcasts, and http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006sqhl automatically refreshes and takes you to the same b007k1sk page, so pidxx/pid, it is!!! Looking at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/netpub3.7.graffle.pdf, it is clear that there are three different synopses (short, medium and long) It looks like the aod xml uses the short one. Do you know of any way to formulate an xml query to get at the long synopsis data, as it will help better with my searches. So far, I have only found: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio7/programmes/schedules.xml http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/bbc7.xml Both of which appear to contain the short synopsis information. Many thanks and Regards, Steve On Thursday 03 Jun 2010 19:12:00 you wrote: entry pid=p0081pm6 pidb007k1sk/pid broadcast pid=p0081l0f version_pid=b006sqhl ... / QUESTION: My question is which of the PIDs will _always_ be associated with this specific episode of this specific program? AFAIK, b007k1sk is the episode (should stay the same), b006sqhl is the version (may vary in future broadcasts, depending), p0081l0f is the broadcast of that version (changes each time). Dunno what p0081pm6 is, mind Im far more familiar with TV data than radio :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Developer: Parsing AOD xml, and which PID is permanent?
A comment regarding the WMA content ... watch out with the media link URL. It only works if the listener is in UK (BBC does geo lookup). The trick is to use http://www.bbc.co.uk/listen/again/vpid.asx Since this is supposed to do the same geo lookup and then dynamically generate an ASX with the right link. There are hopes to make this use the PID so that it can be pretty static (eg asking for Farming Today and the backend always returning the most recent. I don't know if a vpid is re-used for a much later repeat. (I know this through working with Alan Ogilvie when trying to get the WMA content working for Reciva radios) Paul Sent while mobile On 3 Jun 2010, at 18:59, Steve Clarke mailinglis...@trumpton.org.uk wrote: Dear all, I am writing an alert application, which looks out for specific radio programs, and sends an alert (email / SMS, etc) when a program that meets specific criteria has been spotted on the audio on demand side of the BBC. I have three questions: 1) I am downloading the aod xml file, e.g. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/bbc7.xml There appear to be several ways to get similar information, and each seems to be formatted differently, however, this is the one that seems to have everything I need. QUESTION: Is this feed something that is around to stay? 2) In the aod XML file, there are records formatted in the following way: entry pid=p0081pm6 keykey data/key pidb007k1sk/pid servicebbc_7/service titletitle, series, episode/title synopsisoverview/synopsis availability start= ... / broadcast pid=p0081l0f version_pid=b006sqhl ... / parents parent pid=b00s8fp6 type=Seriesseries no./parent parent pid=b00f9sql type=Brandbrand/parent /parents links link details /links /entry I'd like to know if I've sent the text message / email out before, and before could be 6 months ago, when the program was last aired. I note that the version_pid is the same number as used in the link url. QUESTION: My question is which of the PIDs will _always_ be associated with this specific episode of this specific program? 3) Finally, a question, which is more of a comment. The mediaselector xml file seems to offer the WMA stream at 128kbps, but my internet radio only every plays it at 96kbps, and infact, I've seen posts stating that it is a 96kbps stream. QUESTION: Is the 128kbps for wma streams in the mediaselector.xml file a typo? many thanks and best regards, Steve Clarke - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer
BBC have now enabled auto detection of iPad ... now presents the bigscreen version - but not on the beta iPlayer site. Paul On Thu, 27 May 2010 13:06:18 +0100, you wrote: Dave posted Awesome - looks like the Beeb have changed iPlayer enough to break beebPlayer once again.8:43 AM May 13thhttp://twitter.com/johnsto/status/13901166595 via Twitter for Android http://mobile.twitter.com/ from here http://maps.google.com/maps?q=51.4029042,0.0167886 and a very short note at http://davejohnston.posterous.com/?tag=beebplayer http://davejohnston.posterous.com/?tag=beebplayerMakes you wonder why the BBC bothered with backstage at all, doesn't it? On 27 May 2010 12:44, Iain Wallace ikwall...@gmail.com wrote: Was BeebPlayer actually banned by the BBC then? I was trying to get the story on why it suddenly vanished. What could the issue possibly be with it? On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Mo, Dave got the beebPlayer app working OK on Android. Until the BBC reversed the stated position and got it banned. Shouldn't be too hard... On 26 May 2010 23:35, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: On 26-May-2010, at 23:11, Brian Butterworth wrote: Let's hope the same priority has been afforded to Android users. It was pointed out to me earlier today that Android has been going to support Flash really soon for quite a while now. While it should be a very simple change to serve up the iPhone version to Android phones alongside iPhones and iPod touches (its all WebKit, baseline H.264+AAC-LC, after all though might be in a QuickTime container, cant recall), I cant help but wonder if it would complicate the BBCs strategic relationship with Adobe if they were to do it. Not that Im endorsing such a thing were it to be true, mind. Bloody stupid situation M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer
Erik Huggers has been briefing today - and has said that iPlayer will be iPad friendly in time for UK iPad launch this Friday. Telegraph article interprets it wrongly I think (saying that it is a downloadable app) - but anyway - principle is clear. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7768352/BBC-iPlayer-coming-to-Apple-iPad.html Paul On Thu, 20 May 2010 13:05:08 +0100, you wrote: Already described below is a way to have it work on iPad. I am not requesting that iPad gets access to any more content (or any better views) than iPhone. Maybe, in the meantime, BBC could add that workaround to a FAQ that people could be directed to. If the volume of sales justifies further investigation by BBC then fine - but right now the default experience is rubbish if anyone is trying to get any audio or video. Paul On Thu, 20 May 2010 12:26:33 +0100, you wrote: It's actually incredibly easy to get the iPlayer working on the iPad via safari. Additionally the video source is fully compatible with HTML5 video containers. So long as you ensure that requests come from iphone marked devices you can get Safari to work with it perfectly and indeed present HTML5 video containers with iPlayer video streams. The problem for a legit version is that they will a) have to buy some iPads then b) write a larger screen mobile version c) test it, make change and release I wouldn't bank on anything coming soon, corporate oil tanker :) Additionally, AFAIK not all videos are available for the iPhone so it's not a question of making a small shift to the main iPlayer website. http://img31.imageshack.us/i/ipadkg.jpg/ -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Webster Sent: 20 May 2010 10:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Cc: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer Can someone from BBC persuade someone else in BBC with the right powers to make a statement on this? FYI Apple have now enabled access to UK AppStore for iPad users Paul On Tue, 11 May 2010 08:33:03 +0100, you wrote: While the method below is still working fine - it remains a bit of a pain to use. Any chance that someone in BBC could make the change that I suggested nearly a month ago - namely to add the iPad as an alias for the iPhone (user-agent strings below). If BBC makes special format for iPad in the future then fine ... simply remove the alias at that point. Paul Webster On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:34:42 +0100, you wrote: Ah - good idea. I guess that means that the Apple webkit is statically linked - so it picks up the iPhone version. Just tried it by using the iPhone Facebook app - and became a fan of one of the BBC iPlayer pages ... which has a link in the info section. Worked well. Paul On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:11:26 +0100, you wrote: If you use an iPhone app with a built in browser (Files works well for me), you can access the iPhone iPlayer on the iPad. It looks reasonably good in pixel-doubled mode. Jamie. On 15 Apr 2010, at 12:33, Paul Webster paul-at-dabdig.com |BBC Lists/Example Allow| wrote: Ok - I admit it ... I have one. Any chance of adding iPad Safari user-agent to the list of things that look like an iPhone so that iPlayer works? Here are examples: iPad: Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; U; CPU OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B367 Safari/531.21.10 iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16 I realise that it could be optimised for the display characteristics - but right now it is useless because BBC site asks for Flash. Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer
Can someone from BBC persuade someone else in BBC with the right powers to make a statement on this? FYI Apple have now enabled access to UK AppStore for iPad users Paul On Tue, 11 May 2010 08:33:03 +0100, you wrote: While the method below is still working fine - it remains a bit of a pain to use. Any chance that someone in BBC could make the change that I suggested nearly a month ago - namely to add the iPad as an alias for the iPhone (user-agent strings below). If BBC makes special format for iPad in the future then fine ... simply remove the alias at that point. Paul Webster On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:34:42 +0100, you wrote: Ah - good idea. I guess that means that the Apple webkit is statically linked - so it picks up the iPhone version. Just tried it by using the iPhone Facebook app - and became a fan of one of the BBC iPlayer pages ... which has a link in the info section. Worked well. Paul On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:11:26 +0100, you wrote: If you use an iPhone app with a built in browser (Files works well for me), you can access the iPhone iPlayer on the iPad. It looks reasonably good in pixel-doubled mode. Jamie. On 15 Apr 2010, at 12:33, Paul Webster paul-at-dabdig.com |BBC Lists/Example Allow| wrote: Ok - I admit it ... I have one. Any chance of adding iPad Safari user-agent to the list of things that look like an iPhone so that iPlayer works? Here are examples: iPad: Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; U; CPU OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B367 Safari/531.21.10 iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16 I realise that it could be optimised for the display characteristics - but right now it is useless because BBC site asks for Flash. Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer
Already described below is a way to have it work on iPad. I am not requesting that iPad gets access to any more content (or any better views) than iPhone. Maybe, in the meantime, BBC could add that workaround to a FAQ that people could be directed to. If the volume of sales justifies further investigation by BBC then fine - but right now the default experience is rubbish if anyone is trying to get any audio or video. Paul On Thu, 20 May 2010 12:26:33 +0100, you wrote: It's actually incredibly easy to get the iPlayer working on the iPad via safari. Additionally the video source is fully compatible with HTML5 video containers. So long as you ensure that requests come from iphone marked devices you can get Safari to work with it perfectly and indeed present HTML5 video containers with iPlayer video streams. The problem for a legit version is that they will a) have to buy some iPads then b) write a larger screen mobile version c) test it, make change and release I wouldn't bank on anything coming soon, corporate oil tanker :) Additionally, AFAIK not all videos are available for the iPhone so it's not a question of making a small shift to the main iPlayer website. http://img31.imageshack.us/i/ipadkg.jpg/ -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Webster Sent: 20 May 2010 10:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Cc: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer Can someone from BBC persuade someone else in BBC with the right powers to make a statement on this? FYI Apple have now enabled access to UK AppStore for iPad users Paul On Tue, 11 May 2010 08:33:03 +0100, you wrote: While the method below is still working fine - it remains a bit of a pain to use. Any chance that someone in BBC could make the change that I suggested nearly a month ago - namely to add the iPad as an alias for the iPhone (user-agent strings below). If BBC makes special format for iPad in the future then fine ... simply remove the alias at that point. Paul Webster On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:34:42 +0100, you wrote: Ah - good idea. I guess that means that the Apple webkit is statically linked - so it picks up the iPhone version. Just tried it by using the iPhone Facebook app - and became a fan of one of the BBC iPlayer pages ... which has a link in the info section. Worked well. Paul On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:11:26 +0100, you wrote: If you use an iPhone app with a built in browser (Files works well for me), you can access the iPhone iPlayer on the iPad. It looks reasonably good in pixel-doubled mode. Jamie. On 15 Apr 2010, at 12:33, Paul Webster paul-at-dabdig.com |BBC Lists/Example Allow| wrote: Ok - I admit it ... I have one. Any chance of adding iPad Safari user-agent to the list of things that look like an iPhone so that iPlayer works? Here are examples: iPad: Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; U; CPU OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B367 Safari/531.21.10 iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16 I realise that it could be optimised for the display characteristics - but right now it is useless because BBC site asks for Flash. Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Apple-Adobe war_advert_:)
I did say it was beta. However, given the number of demos that he gives and the audience for that particular event I expect that this was not the planned outcome. Paul Sent while mobile On 19 May 2010, at 10:48, cisnky cis...@gmail.com wrote: @Paul - When Ryan was running the demo he wasn't using the latest version. We should hear more about FP 10.1 for Android at Google I/O (Froyo 2.2) On 13 May 2010 21:36, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote: Although they did have a public hiccough a few days ago when some of the same demos did not go as well http://jeffcroft.com/blog/2010/may/08/android-flash-demo-flashcamp-seattle/ It is still beta - but even so it must have caused some embarrassment just a few days after Apple said it was late and prone to crash. Paul On Thu, 13 May 2010 12:09:47 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Thank you. I did sign On Thu, 13 May 2010 20:31 CEST Brian Butterworth wrote: You can download it and use it right now (I am!) for use on a PC. It is at RC4 now: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.htmlBBC HD pages on iPlayer work very well I have to say. You have to register to get notice of when 10.1 for Android is out. On 13 May 2010 18:06, Vladimir Harman harmanvl...@yahoo.com wrote: Ooops. I got confused. So 10.1 hasn t been released yet and the youtube vid is just a promo, rite? :) On Thu, 13 May 2010 18:11 CEST Brian Butterworth wrote: There is also: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_flashplayer10_android_signup On 13 May 2010 15:08, Vladimir Harman harmanvl...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.tinyurl.com/2uv8vjn ...and finally - Adobe s gonna launch Flash code for Android in June this year: ))) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- --- Anthony Onumonu - Blog www.cisnky.com Twitter www.twitter.com/cisnky - Mobile: +44 (0) 7920 10 25 35 -
Re: [backstage] Apple-Adobe war_advert_:)
Although they did have a public hiccough a few days ago when some of the same demos did not go as well http://jeffcroft.com/blog/2010/may/08/android-flash-demo-flashcamp-seattle/ It is still beta - but even so it must have caused some embarrassment just a few days after Apple said it was late and prone to crash. Paul On Thu, 13 May 2010 12:09:47 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Thank you. I did sign up On Thu, 13 May 2010 20:31 CEST Brian Butterworth wrote: You can download it and use it right now (I am!) for use on a PC. It is at RC4 now: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.htmlBBC HD pages on iPlayer work very well I have to say. You have to register to get notice of when 10.1 for Android is out. On 13 May 2010 18:06, Vladimir Harman harmanvl...@yahoo.com wrote: Ooops. I got confused. So 10.1 hasn t been released yet and the youtube vid is just a promo, rite? :) On Thu, 13 May 2010 18:11 CEST Brian Butterworth wrote: There is also: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_flashplayer10_android_signup On 13 May 2010 15:08, Vladimir Harman harmanvl...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.tinyurl.com/2uv8vjn ...and finally - Adobe s gonna launch Flash code for Android in June this year: ))) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer
While the method below is still working fine - it remains a bit of a pain to use. Any chance that someone in BBC could make the change that I suggested nearly a month ago - namely to add the iPad as an alias for the iPhone (user-agent strings below). If BBC makes special format for iPad in the future then fine ... simply remove the alias at that point. Paul Webster On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:34:42 +0100, you wrote: Ah - good idea. I guess that means that the Apple webkit is statically linked - so it picks up the iPhone version. Just tried it by using the iPhone Facebook app - and became a fan of one of the BBC iPlayer pages ... which has a link in the info section. Worked well. Paul On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:11:26 +0100, you wrote: If you use an iPhone app with a built in browser (Files works well for me), you can access the iPhone iPlayer on the iPad. It looks reasonably good in pixel-doubled mode. Jamie. On 15 Apr 2010, at 12:33, Paul Webster paul-at-dabdig.com |BBC Lists/Example Allow| wrote: Ok - I admit it ... I have one. Any chance of adding iPad Safari user-agent to the list of things that look like an iPhone so that iPlayer works? Here are examples: iPad: Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; U; CPU OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B367 Safari/531.21.10 iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16 I realise that it could be optimised for the display characteristics - but right now it is useless because BBC site asks for Flash. Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] iPad and iPlayer
Ok - I admit it ... I have one. Any chance of adding iPad Safari user-agent to the list of things that look like an iPhone so that iPlayer works? Here are examples: iPad: Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; U; CPU OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B367 Safari/531.21.10 iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16 I realise that it could be optimised for the display characteristics - but right now it is useless because BBC site asks for Flash. Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPad and iPlayer
Ah - good idea. I guess that means that the Apple webkit is statically linked - so it picks up the iPhone version. Just tried it by using the iPhone Facebook app - and became a fan of one of the BBC iPlayer pages ... which has a link in the info section. Worked well. Paul On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:11:26 +0100, you wrote: If you use an iPhone app with a built in browser (Files works well for me), you can access the iPhone iPlayer on the iPad. It looks reasonably good in pixel-doubled mode. Jamie. On 15 Apr 2010, at 12:33, Paul Webster paul-at-dabdig.com |BBC Lists/Example Allow| wrote: Ok - I admit it ... I have one. Any chance of adding iPad Safari user-agent to the list of things that look like an iPhone so that iPlayer works? Here are examples: iPad: Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; U; CPU OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B367 Safari/531.21.10 iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16 I realise that it could be optimised for the display characteristics - but right now it is useless because BBC site asks for Flash. Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Re: User Agent/Referrer Verification
And for practical purposes ... the UserAgent field changes with version updates. So - as software gets updated it would mean that the back-end would also have to go through the library and re-generate keys for old material (or recalculate it on the fly on access). Taking just an invariable sub-string of the UserAgent field (product up to the /) would remove the issue. But is this an attempt to determine if rogue-application1 using the UserAgent string of legal-application2 might be the basis of some sort of legal protection (copyright or DCMA-style infringement)? Sounds unlikely to me - given that changing UA field is routinely done and documented (e.g. Opera includes it in standard UI so that it can get into sites that include code for specific browsers but don't recognise standard Opera). (MS-IE identifying itself as Mozilla is an example of hackery in this area) Meanwhile - what happens when someone distributes one of more of the pairs of user-agent/key - in that case the rogue app will not need direct access to the original file. Personal view - I wish that the Flash verification had not been turned on - and I would like to see the impact analysis that BBC did before doing it. Paul - Original Message - From: Iain Wallace ikwall...@gmail.com To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [backstage] Re: User Agent/Referrer Verification I think I replied from an address which isn't registered with the list earlier, so here's what I said again: The fact that this is all presumably going to be sent in the clear as opposed to encrypted means this would be technically very easy to reverse engineer. Aside from that, the key really is the resource, which you'd somehow need to protect in order to stop invalid user agents just spoofing all this info. In that respect it's very similar to swf verify, which doesn't work. Whether this can be claimed to be a copyright mechanism is a legal rather than technical issue IMO. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: On 8-Mar-2010, at 22:55, Mo McRoberts wrote: Learned Backstage types, [snip] I’ve written it up here: http://nevali.net/post/435363058/user-agent-referrer-verification It’s been pointed out to me that the write-up would be better in the e-mail, so here it is: This is a snippet of code which verifies access to a given resource based upon a combination of access to a referring resource and a user-agent string. The client generates an sha256-hmac based on the contents of the referring resource (which the client must have access to) and its user-agent string. This HMAC is sent along with the request for a resource. Thus, given a list of referring resources and valid user agents, the server can generate a list of valid keys by performing the same sha256-hmac process on each combination. If a client sends a request which does not appear in this list of keys, the request is denied. I would be interested on an expert opinion as to whether this is considered an “effective” technological copyright-protection mechanism according to the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (as amended by The Copyright and Related Rights Regulation 2003), and whether implementing a third-party client which implements this protocol (for the purposes of interoperability) constitutes “any device, product or component which is primarily designed, produced, or adapted for the purpose of enabling or facilitating the circumvention of effective technological measures” as specified by section 296ZB of the Act. Cheers! M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Users just want video to work. You Mozilla people are such idealists?
On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:17:34 +, Brian wrote: snip Aside from this XVID is DIVX backwards. This is because all the ITU-T standards are DECODING standards, not encoding ones. This is to allow commercial operators to create their own encoders, with the decoding being in the public domain. Re DivX and Xvid ... while it is true that the spelling is reversed ... my recollection is that this is not because decoding is the reverse of encoding. I thought it was a joke name because of the open source community unhappiness with DivX Inc (used to be DivXNetworks Inc) withdrawing source code from the OpenDivX project that they started. Paul - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Is this BBC Homeplug product legal?
Radio Society has more info http://www.rsgb.org/plt/ In particular they are chasing after the Comtrend models supplied by BT. Paul On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:24:53 +, you wrote: Oops, same team did look into internal systems, but the noise problem is similar. I'll see if I can find their report. Mo McRoberts wrote: On 15-Dec-2009, at 10:33, Simon Thompson wrote: The RF noise generated by these technologies is quite bad, it's in a band where noise can propogate worldwide via the ionosphere. It can prevent receivers locking to, or demodulating a signal. http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP116.pdf Is that not a four and a half year old report into a trial of a PLT system which delivered broadband access via power supply lines, rather than a product which makes use of internal power cabling to provide home networking? (I realise the underlying tech is similar, though things have moved on a bit in that time, but context is somewhat important, no?) M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Is this BBC Homeplug product legal?
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:17:47 +, you wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:11, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote: Radio Society has more info http://www.rsgb.org/plt/ In particular they are chasing after the Comtrend models supplied by BT. I thought the Comtrend powerline adapters aren't HomePlug ( http://www.homeplug.org/) standard compliant. Which makes me wonder why people are drawing the conclusion that all PLAs are bad, when at worst it appears to be a relative handful of non-standard ones that may be causing a limited amount of interference. It's like saying that because some cars on the road don't meet emissions standards then all cars don't and that all cars are illegal, going by some of the posts on the forums linked to in this thread. BT website says: This product is compatible with all other DS2 powerline adapters - it isn't compatible with the Homeplug adapters. Their organisation is: http://www.upaplc.org/page_viewer.asp?pid=5 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Is this BBC Homeplug product legal?
Comments here http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/index.php/bbc-iplayer-launches-in-december That Ofcom are reviewing interference. Paul -- Sent from my phone On 14 Dec 2009, at 16:29, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ttLGbZI7k Nice video - but it's using these http://www.homeplugs.co.uk/ Homeplug adaptor. I can't find anywhere where it says that these Homeplug things are legal. They didn't used to be. Can someone point out where I can find where it says they are legit? A number of trolls have descended on my site saying that they are not, and I can't find a definitive answer. Thanks in advance -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:03:45 -,Gareth Davis wrote: snip/ Live streams are also available in Shoutcast/MP3 additionally. Oh - that is interesting ... can you point to some links and naming convention? -- Rgds Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:30:39 +, you wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:03:45 -,Gareth Davis wrote: snip/ Live streams are also available in Shoutcast/MP3 additionally. Oh - that is interesting ... can you point to some links and naming convention? Ignore that - I see it on the page http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/institutional/2009/10/091029_internetradiomobilelinks.shtml Paul - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?
Just to let people know ... direct access to BBC Local Radio On Demand content has been restored over the last few days. It is 48K WMA Thanks to those who worked behind the scenes to get it going. Real shame that it took an initially unplanned 2 months - but it is working. Paul On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:43:09 +0100, you wrote: What has happened to the RealAudio feeds of the local radio (BBC London in particular) Listen Again content? As an example http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0046fbf/Danny_Baker_03_09_2009/ choose the pop-out player - and then low bandwidth ... Danny Baker: 03/09/2009 is unavailable at this time. Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC News - Googlejuice vs Usability
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:18:31 -, you wrote: snip As an example, I think for this story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8369764.stm Procter Gamble recalls 120,000 Vicks nasal sprays ...is much clearer than... Thousands of Vicks spray recalled Especially if you don't know what Vicks is. How about PG recall 120,000 Vicks sprays!! or Vicks nasal spray in health alert (that is how PA tell it) or Health worry with PG Vicks Sinex or Nation saved by Vicks recall Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] New site/service for all UK radio?
A bit more news today http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/nov/19/bbc-internet-radio-player-commercial Extract Tim Davie, BBC director of audio and music, said today that the project would give web users access to more than 400 Ofcom-licensed national and local UK stations, in an initiative involving partnerships with the commercial radio trade body the Radio Centre, Global Radio and Guardian Media Group. Davie added that the move was a first step in the BBC forming such partnerships. Paul On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:29:49 +, you wrote: Anyone know which project this one is ... ? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/single-website-for-all-uk-radio-stations-by-early-next-year-1809420.html A single website which offers users the choice of the entire output of the British radio industry with potentially up to 500 different networks could be available to internet users within months. Quotes from Andrew Harrison of RadioCente and Tim Davie, director of audio and music at the BBC. Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPlayer on Freesat in November.
Interesting. It is clearly an updated version of the Netgem Iplayer device http://www.fetchtv.dslshop.co.uk/details.aspx?idProduct=1393 looks like they have their own subscription service for additional downloads. and includes statement saying that it can get stuff from BBC iPlayer catch up on shows you have missed watching BBC iPlayer Also claims: Multi-stream - up to 2 SD or HD simultaneous decoded streams No obvious statement that it can play the upcoming Freeview HD content but I presume that this is the plan. Main site: http://www.fetchtv.co.uk/ Paul On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:48:29 -, you wrote: The iPlayer set top box is now being used by Fetch TV. http://www.fetchtv.dslshop.co.uk/smartbox7000.aspx -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Webster Sent: 04 November 2009 15:34 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer on Freesat in November. Netgem launched their device in 2002 and stopped selling it in UK around 2006 http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/iplayer.html#availability However, they kept going in France (their home) and used their experience with Freeview to be ready for the French equivalent that launched later (TNT). http://www.netgem.com/ I have one - with Ethernet and IR keyboard. I fiddled with it at the start ... including transparent HTML overlay so could see new mail icon in bottom right of screen which I could then check (e.g. during adverts). Paul On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:11:40 +, you wrote: Nope. http://www.digitallogo.co.uk/company_search.php 2009/11/4 Simon Thompson simon.thomp...@rd.bbc.co.uk Was the Netgem ever awarded a Digital Tick? Paul Webster wrote: Freeview with Ethernet - yes Netgem iPlayer (yes - they had been using the name for ages before BBC iPlayer). Lots of advanced features - for it's time. (Ethernet via USB dongle) Paul -- Sent from my phone On 4 Nov 2009, at 09:35, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: Can you name a single Freeview box with an Ethernet port? 2009/11/4 Nico Morrison microni...@gmail.com http://www.trustedreviews.com/home-cinema/news/2009/11/04/BBC-iPlaye r-Hits-Freesat-in-November/p1 Does that mean we'll get it on Freeview as well? Nico M -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- -- *Simon Thompson MEng MIET* Research and Development Engineer simon.thomp...@rd.bbc.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Full UK postcode location file turns up on Wikileaks: is that useful?
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:26:55 +0100, you wrote: 2009/9/16 Stephen Jolly st...@jollys.org On 16 Sep 2009, at 18:53, Tim Dobson wrote: What do people think? Reminds me of when some of the Windows 2000 code was leaked - if anything the leak was worse than useless, since the open-source projects that could have benefited from it obviously couldn't look at it without becoming copyright infringers, and the people behind legitimate reverse-engineering efforts always had to be looking out for suspicious contributions from well-meaning idiots. It's nothing like that. Source code is source code, you can reverse engineer it. This file is a CSV file, with a helpful first row of column names. Just because this is a zipped up csv file rather than a database does not seem to exempt it from Database Right http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1997/19973032.htm Where a database is defined as: Databases 3A. - (1) In this Part database means a collection of independent works, data or other materials which - (a) are arranged in a systematic or methodical way, and (b) are individually accessible by electronic or other means. (2) For the purposes of this Part a literary work consisting of a database is original if, and only if, by reason of the selection or arrangement of the contents of the database the database constitutes the author's own intellectual creation.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_right -- Rgds Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Pure Sensia
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:42:20 +0100, you wrote: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/09/17/pure-sensia-digital-radio-first-look/ Linux-based radio with touchscreen and app support. Not sure I like the styling and it's a bit pricey, but it's an interesting product, certainly... Since it has Twitter support, no doubt certain members of this list will love it ;-) I blogged about it here http://dabdig.blogspot.com/2009/09/touchscreens-are-in-fashion-pure-sensia.html The bit that should be interesting to folks here is that this will probably be the first device released with RadioDNS RadioVIS support. -- Rgds Paul.Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?
Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?For the internet radio device community - the most important aspect of this is that there is a direct streaming URL using one of the standard protocols and codecs. It is a big shame that it is the low bit-rate version that is offered to iPlayer users with dial-up modems. Any dates for when the service is likely to be resumed? Paul Webster - Original Message - From: adancy+backst...@gmail.com To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 10:23 AM Subject: RE: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing? So a fair summary for what's happening with radio would be as follows: Local Radio - changing from Real to WMA for the low bitrate option Network Radio - staying as is, although presumably with WMA being added eventually as per previous comments on BBC blogs World Service - staying as is, but with the future addition of AAC Ironically, since Friday a number of the previously missing RealAudio programme streams appear to have come alive again! Presumably this is just their last swansong before they are sent to the great /dev/null in the sky... Andrew From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of John O'Donovan Hi Andrew, generally these streams won't be available as RealAudio in the future. As you will no doubt have seen, the BBC is reducing it's dependency on Real Media as a delivery mechanism, though it will still be supported. Coyopa was designed to meet the needs of centralised National Radio rather than Local Radio and the distribution problems, source quality and encoding issues for Local Radio are very different, complicated and expensive to develop. Local Radio is still dependent on gathering the streams through a variety of methods and encoding at an aggregation point, and this aggregation point is at capacity at the moment. Cheers, jod - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?
Closely related question ... and one that was asked back in October last year. Do we now have XML feed for the BBC local radio station listen again content? If yes - what is the syntax - and is there a page that lists the links? i.e. an equivalent of http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio4.xml Paul On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:00:33 +0100, you wrote: So - I presume that this means that we lose the ability to pause/ff On Demand content on Reciva-based radios (because it was using a URL facility of the streaming server that has presumably been turned off). Annoying if true because of prior discussions with Alan Ogilvie (back in December) about this. I can't verify until Reciva move to the WMA streams ... Paul On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:41:32 +0100, you wrote: Ok so it turns out that a dual bitrate option will continue to be available, but in Windows rather than Real. So that link is temporarily broken while things are being moved around. There¹s some useful background here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/08/improvements_to_bbc_local_rad i.html On 04/09/2009 13:50, Gavin Johnson gavin.john...@bbc.co.uk wrote: As of Tuesday there is no longer a dual bitrate option. It looks like iplayer haven¹t caught up. Thanks for noticing, I¹ll give someone a nudge about getting the link removed. Gavin On 04/09/2009 12:43, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote: What has happened to the RealAudio feeds of the local radio (BBC London in particular) Listen Again content? As an example http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0046fbf/Danny_Baker_03_09_2009/ choose the pop-out player - and then low bandwidth ... Danny Baker: 03/09/2009 is unavailable at this time. Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?
Thanks -- Sent from my phone On 5 Sep 2009, at 10:43, Phil Lewis backst...@linuxcentre.net wrote: Hi Paul, Try this: http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/station/list - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?
What has happened to the RealAudio feeds of the local radio (BBC London in particular) Listen Again content? As an example http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0046fbf/Danny_Baker_03_09_2009/ choose the pop-out player - and then low bandwidth ... Danny Baker: 03/09/2009 is unavailable at this time. Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?
So - I presume that this means that we lose the ability to pause/ff On Demand content on Reciva-based radios (because it was using a URL facility of the streaming server that has presumably been turned off). Annoying if true because of prior discussions with Alan Ogilvie (back in December) about this. I can't verify until Reciva move to the WMA streams ... Paul On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:41:32 +0100, you wrote: Ok so it turns out that a dual bitrate option will continue to be available, but in Windows rather than Real. So that link is temporarily broken while things are being moved around. There¹s some useful background here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/08/improvements_to_bbc_local_rad i.html On 04/09/2009 13:50, Gavin Johnson gavin.john...@bbc.co.uk wrote: As of Tuesday there is no longer a dual bitrate option. It looks like iplayer haven¹t caught up. Thanks for noticing, I¹ll give someone a nudge about getting the link removed. Gavin On 04/09/2009 12:43, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote: What has happened to the RealAudio feeds of the local radio (BBC London in particular) Listen Again content? As an example http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0046fbf/Danny_Baker_03_09_2009/ choose the pop-out player - and then low bandwidth ... Danny Baker: 03/09/2009 is unavailable at this time. Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage-developer] Pulled programme - which artifacts should remain?
The On The Ropes edition with Andy Kershaw was pulled this morning - which I presume also means that it will not be run tonight. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio4/2009/04/on_the_ropes_andy_kershaw.html However, it still appears in various places e.g. key 8d61fdb1117694d700ae5a843653e527887eeb0f in http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio4.xml and http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00jxb02 A link from the programme entry back to today's blog would be good. The 09:00 replacement this morning is now listed correctly Salman Rushdie and The Wizard of Oz (key c08e198d379cf6fb90cabde4c5eb04c8259d36f5 ) Paul - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk developer discussion group. To unsubscribe, please send an email to majord...@lists.bbc.co.uk with unsubscribe backstage-developer [your email] as the message.
[backstage-developer] RE: Pulled programme - which artifacts should remain?
I see that the re-run scheduled for this evening has been replaced with ... somewhat appropriately ... Beyond Belief Paul -Original Message- From: Paul Webster [mailto:p...@dabdig.com] Sent: 28 April 2009 13:33 To: backstage-developer@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Pulled programme - which artifacts should remain? The On The Ropes edition with Andy Kershaw was pulled this morning - which I presume also means that it will not be run tonight. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio4/2009/04/on_the_ropes_andy_kershaw.html However, it still appears in various places e.g. key 8d61fdb1117694d700ae5a843653e527887eeb0f in http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio4.xml and http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00jxb02 A link from the programme entry back to today's blog would be good. The 09:00 replacement this morning is now listed correctly Salman Rushdie and The Wizard of Oz (key c08e198d379cf6fb90cabde4c5eb04c8259d36f5 ) Paul - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk developer discussion group. To unsubscribe, please send an email to majord...@lists.bbc.co.uk with unsubscribe backstage-developer [your email] as the message.
[backstage] New BBC Radio 4 web site ... lost episode archives
The episode archives for some programmes has recently disappeared. My guess is that it is related to the revamped Radio 4 web site and better integration with iPlayer ... meaning that the direct links to old content that was available has now gone. Examples: Material World (had archive to 2005) Frontiers (had archive to 2003) Food Programme (had current series) As an example: http://www.bbc.net.uk/radio4/science/ The look for LISTEN AGAIN TO PAST PROGRAMMES: then pick Frontiers (ignore the spurious external redirect warning) while you will be able to find the episode list ... you won't find the content Please do not remove the direct links that have the predictable URLs ... and even more imp-ortant, please do not remove the .ram files for example http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/rams/frontiers_20081124.ram Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Overlapping schedules
All of which I understand as a statement of how it is - but it is a real annoyance because of the change of how it was, with What's On. I process TV schedlude web pages from over 100 European channels and all have their quirks but none have the overlapped times. I have put in a partial workaround for the overlap - but chaning a single HTTP get into one for each programme is beyond what is feasible for my script. Maybe I'll take a look at the RadioTimes feed to see if it includes both more detail (for TV) and local radio. Paul -- Sent from my phone On 3 Apr 2009, at 00:24, Paul Clifford paul.clifford+backst...@gmail.com wrote: We wanted to have the schedules run midnight-midnight, but as I recall the networks wanted programmes starting in the early hours of the morning to be shown as part of the previous day's schedule, and we ended up with the compromise you see on the site: midnight to midnight plus 5 hours. The machine readable representations (currently .xml, .json, .yaml) may change to midnight-midnight in the next few months as a side effect of other changes, but you can ignore the extra 5 hours by skipping anything where the start time is on a different date to the one you're interested in. You can only get the short synopsis through the schedule, but the medium and long synopsis values can be fetched from the RDF representations of the episode pages. If the pid of the episode is b00jbkkj, the RDF will be at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00jbkkj.rdf and the three synopsis variations will be in po:short_synopsis, po:medium_synopsis, and po:long_synopsis. Unfortunately that means 1 request for a schedule, and N subsequent requests for each episode in that schedule, but the medium and long synopsis strings aren't intended for use in schedules, so they're unlikely to be added to the schedule data views. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Paul Webster p...@dabdig.com wrote: When What's On was summarily closed I posted some thoughts to the relevant blog http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/12/whats_on_is_off.html ... none of which got a response. So - I thought I'd try here hoping that a BBC person can help out. One was: Problem with new pages compared to What's On ... the schedules overlap. i.e. days start at midnight but continue until 3am please make it midnight-midnight or start new day 05:00 As an example see: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules/2009/04/03 http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules/2009/04/04 and another was: Another annoying difference when compared to What's On - only providing 1-2 line synopsis. If there a modifier available to the URL (e.g. reallyfulldetails) ? Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Overlapping schedules
When What's On was summarily closed I posted some thoughts to the relevant blog http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/12/whats_on_is_off.html ... none of which got a response. So - I thought I'd try here hoping that a BBC person can help out. One was: Problem with new pages compared to What's On ... the schedules overlap. i.e. days start at midnight but continue until 3am please make it midnight-midnight or start new day 05:00 As an example see: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules/2009/04/03 http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules/2009/04/04 and another was: Another annoying difference when compared to What's On - only providing 1-2 line synopsis. If there a modifier available to the URL (e.g. reallyfulldetails) ? Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] RE: BBC WorldSerice Radio schedules disappeared
Situation has now changed - but still broken. On Sunday it was redirecting to a general error page within the schedules system - now it says: Monday 30 March 2009 Sorry, there are no broadcasts for this day. Please choose an alternative date from the calendar. but it is now showing material for old days http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/schedules/2009/03/29 Paul -Original Message- From: Paul Webster [mailto:p...@dabdig.com] Sent: 29 March 2009 15:48 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: BBC WorldSerice Radio schedules disappeared BBC WorldSerice Radio schedules disappeared http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/schedules/2009/03/30 Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] BBC WorldSerice Radio schedules disappeared
BBC WorldSerice Radio schedules disappeared http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/schedules/2009/03/30 Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC On Demand - XML feed dried up again
This problem remains. i.e. no updates since TUESDAY. Happened also around 18th March. Becuase the XML file contains some information about future programmes. it is not always obvious to an end-user that something has gone wrong until some days later (which is good). How about BBC putting some monitoring in place to report when the XML file has a timestamp more than X hours old - and then forwarding info the the relevant teams .. including iPlayer folks (I presume that iPlayer issues get actioned more quickly). Paul -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk]on Behalf Of Paul Webster Sent: 28 March 2009 19:29 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] BBC On Demand - XML feed dried up again The XML feed that is made available to 3rd-parties has stopped updating. Last update (Radio 4) is timestamped 2009-03-24T06:04:37Z - i.e. a few days ago. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio4.xml Can someone from the BBC get it going again ... and also have a look at making it more robust (it failed a few weeks ago)? Paul - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] BBC On Demand - XML feed dried up again
The XML feed that is made available to 3rd-parties has stopped updating. Last update (Radio 4) is timestamped 2009-03-24T06:04:37Z - i.e. a few days ago. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio4.xml Can someone from the BBC get it going again ... and also have a look at making it more robust (it failed a few weeks ago)? Paul - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] XML feeds broken
Same issue was reported over on the Reciva forums. I tried to alert James Cridland via Twitted and pretty sure that others have tried via the email address at the top of the XML. Looks like BBC iPlayer is deriving data from elsewhere. If it was the same place as made available to 3rd-parties then maybe it would have been recognised and resolved sooner. Paul Webster -- Sent from my phone On 15 Mar 2009, at 23:12, adancy+backst...@gmail.com wrote: This is probably as good a place as any to report this - the Audio on Demand XML feeds (e.g http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio4.xml ) seem to be broken. They don't appear to have updated since the 12th March. Hopefully it's just a case of a simple spot of percussive maintenance on the relevant server to sort it all out. Andrew Dancy http://www.reincubate.com
