[backstage] BBC RD Move- Video
Better late than never I realise that I neglected to flag this short film to the Backstage list. We shot it two weeks ago and very quickly edited and loaded it up last week. Apologies for the video quality- we've been having slight nightmares getting good quality files out of FCP and into iPlayer!. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/researchanddevelopment/2010/01/rd-south-lab-video-report-on-t.shtml -- Ant Miller tel: 07709 265961 email: ant.mil...@gmail.com
Re: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Ant Miller ant.mil...@gmail.com wrote: Better late than never I realise that I neglected to flag this short film to the Backstage list. We shot it two weeks ago and very quickly edited and loaded it up last week. Apologies for the video quality- we've been having slight nightmares getting good quality files out of FCP and into iPlayer!. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/researchanddevelopment/2010/01/rd-south-lab-video-report-on-t.shtml I get not available in your area (Amsterdam, fwiw). Can you flip a permissions switch somewhere? cheers, Dan - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Ah, yeah, sorry about that. There is a switch that's flippable, but the paperwork! We're planning on launching our new website later this week, and into that we can embed video on a different distribution net with worldwide access- I'll repost when that's set up. Sorry! a On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Dan Brickley dan...@danbri.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Ant Miller ant.mil...@gmail.com wrote: Better late than never I realise that I neglected to flag this short film to the Backstage list. We shot it two weeks ago and very quickly edited and loaded it up last week. Apologies for the video quality- we've been having slight nightmares getting good quality files out of FCP and into iPlayer!. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/researchanddevelopment/2010/01/rd-south-lab-video-report-on-t.shtml I get not available in your area (Amsterdam, fwiw). Can you flip a permissions switch somewhere? cheers, Dan - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Ant Miller tel: 07709 265961 email: ant.mil...@gmail.com
Re: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:57, Ant Miller ant.mil...@gmail.com wrote: Better late than never I realise that I neglected to flag this short film to the Backstage list. We shot it two weeks ago and very quickly edited and loaded it up last week. Apologies for the video quality- we've been having slight nightmares getting good quality files out of FCP and into iPlayer!. Sounds like a backstage blog post in the making ;) M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video
Possibly- the specific file formats we need to encode to to upload to iplayer are pretty standard, but the way we make these films is using a 3rd party editor (he's great by the way). Delivering finished films from his home edit suite to us is proving maddeningly unreliable- a combination of his home internet connection, a Mac that refuses to even see some removable drives and a DVD Rom burner we are deeply suspicious of means that roughly half the films fail at some stage of the workflow. In this instance an H.264 copy (far lower quality) was readable off a memory stick whereas the far nicer, and bigger, DV Pal 25 .mov file was U/S. Given the time I would love to set up a nice smooth workflow to pipe these things from him to me, or in fact from any contributor to me, but it's well outside my technical comfort zone, and there's always something else pressing on my time. See, I've driveled on about this for 3 minutes already! a On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:57, Ant Miller ant.mil...@gmail.com wrote: Better late than never I realise that I neglected to flag this short film to the Backstage list. We shot it two weeks ago and very quickly edited and loaded it up last week. Apologies for the video quality- we've been having slight nightmares getting good quality files out of FCP and into iPlayer!. Sounds like a backstage blog post in the making ;) M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Ant Miller tel: 07709 265961 email: ant.mil...@gmail.com
Re: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 13:28, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Oh you might also be interested that RDTV ep3 (long edition) was edited using only Kdenlive on Ubuntu - http://arstechnica.com/open-source/guides/2010/01/video-editing-in-linux-a-look-at-pitivi-and-kdenlive.ars Interesting - I was reading that article a couple of hours ago. How often does it crash for you? :) M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video
Hardly ever crashes. For example I left it running on a spare laptop from Wednesday Today encoding RDTV into a number of different formats and there was no problems. Even when editing it was all good, except I couldn't always get sound out due to Pulseaudio issues. Oh and I had a problem with Mp3 audio on my own laptop which was fixed by convert it to Wav. Secret[] Private[x] Public[] Ian Forrester Senior Backstage Producer BBC RD North Lab, 1st Floor Office, OB Base, New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road, Manchester, M60 1SJ -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mo McRoberts Sent: 01 February 2010 13:36 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 13:28, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Oh you might also be interested that RDTV ep3 (long edition) was edited using only Kdenlive on Ubuntu - http://arstechnica.com/open-source/guides/2010/01/video-editing-in-lin ux-a-look-at-pitivi-and-kdenlive.ars Interesting - I was reading that article a couple of hours ago. How often does it crash for you? :) M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video
On 1 Feb 2010, at 13:30, Ant Miller wrote: Possibly- the specific file formats we need to encode to to upload to iplayer are pretty standard, but the way we make these films is using a 3rd party editor (he's great by the way). Delivering finished films from his home edit suite to us is proving maddeningly unreliable- a combination of his home internet connection, a Mac that refuses to even see some removable drives and a DVD Rom burner we are deeply suspicious of means that roughly half the films fail at some stage of the workflow. In this instance an H.264 copy (far lower quality) was readable off a memory stick whereas the far nicer, and bigger, DV Pal 25 .mov file was U/S. Given the time I would love to set up a nice smooth workflow to pipe these things from him to me, or in fact from any contributor to me, but it's well outside my technical comfort zone, and there's always something else pressing on my time. Sounds like a great RD project - perhaps an automated tool to analyse (and upload?) video produced by third parties? :-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video
On 1 Feb 2010, at 13:43, Ian Forrester wrote: Hardly ever crashes. For example I left it running on a spare laptop from Wednesday Today encoding RDTV into a number of different formats and there was no problems. Even when editing it was all good, except I couldn't always get sound out due to Pulseaudio issues. Oh and I had a problem with Mp3 audio on my own laptop which was fixed by convert it to Wav. You should get a Mac. ;-P S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 14:29, Ant Miller ant.mil...@gmail.com wrote: Actually to have a semi public facing drop zone where we could ingest, analyse and prep files for upload would be a good tool. Get it working right, and build in the right security, and I know of three or four real world production applications straight off- could even integrate well to DMI. Ahem. I'll say nothing at this point ;) M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video
Actually to have a semi public facing drop zone where we could ingest, analyse and prep files for upload would be a good tool. Get it working right, and build in the right security, and I know of three or four real world production applications straight off- could even integrate well to DMI. If we do a production systems hack day this year I'd chuck it in the mix. a On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Stephen Jolly st...@jollys.org wrote: On 1 Feb 2010, at 13:30, Ant Miller wrote: Possibly- the specific file formats we need to encode to to upload to iplayer are pretty standard, but the way we make these films is using a 3rd party editor (he's great by the way). Delivering finished films from his home edit suite to us is proving maddeningly unreliable- a combination of his home internet connection, a Mac that refuses to even see some removable drives and a DVD Rom burner we are deeply suspicious of means that roughly half the films fail at some stage of the workflow. In this instance an H.264 copy (far lower quality) was readable off a memory stick whereas the far nicer, and bigger, DV Pal 25 .mov file was U/S. Given the time I would love to set up a nice smooth workflow to pipe these things from him to me, or in fact from any contributor to me, but it's well outside my technical comfort zone, and there's always something else pressing on my time. Sounds like a great RD project - perhaps an automated tool to analyse (and upload?) video produced by third parties? :-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Ant Miller tel: 07709 265961 email: ant.mil...@gmail.com
Re: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video
You can do that with Isilon's WebDAV interface (Kodak Easyshare for example) and with SyncIQ and Aspera it could be replicated around the BBC's storage clusters with no human interaction. The tools to buy, not build, a DMI exist already. Sent from my dog On 1 Feb 2010, at 14:37, Ant Miller ant.mil...@gmail.com wrote: Actually to have a semi public facing drop zone where we could ingest, analyse and prep files for upload would be a good tool. Get it working right, and build in the right security, and I know of three or four real world production applications straight off- could even integrate well to DMI. If we do a production systems hack day this year I'd chuck it in the mix. a On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Stephen Jolly st...@jollys.org wrote: On 1 Feb 2010, at 13:30, Ant Miller wrote: Possibly- the specific file formats we need to encode to to upload to iplayer are pretty standard, but the way we make these films is using a 3rd party editor (he's great by the way). Delivering finished films from his home edit suite to us is proving maddeningly unreliable- a combination of his home internet connection, a Mac that refuses to even see some removable drives and a DVD Rom burner we are deeply suspicious of means that roughly half the films fail at some stage of the workflow. In this instance an H.264 copy (far lower quality) was readable off a memory stick whereas the far nicer, and bigger, DV Pal 25 .mov file was U/S. Given the time I would love to set up a nice smooth workflow to pipe these things from him to me, or in fact from any contributor to me, but it's well outside my technical comfort zone, and there's always something else pressing on my time. Sounds like a great RD project - perhaps an automated tool to analyse (and upload?) video produced by third parties? :-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Ant Miller tel: 07709 265961 email: ant.mil...@gmail.com __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ROOT 6 LIMITED Registered in the UK at 4 WARDOUR MEWS, LONDON W1F 8AJ Company No. 03433253 inline: email_sig_banner.jpginline: email_sig_logo.jpg
RE: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video
Possibly- the specific file formats we need to encode to to upload to iplayer are pretty standard, but the way we make these films is using a 3rd party editor (he's great by the way). Delivering finished films from his home edit suite to us is proving maddeningly unreliable- a combination of his home internet connection, a Mac I think I see his problem. ;) ducks and runs But seriously, how old is the Mac? I noticed some older Macs at my old Uni had problems with a couple of my USB sticks, although they were USB2.0 and everything-else-compatible. Just seemingly refused to work. Likewise, the inbuilt Superdrive on the MBP I'm currently using at work (to control my PC at home through VNC :P) just epic fails to read some DVDs, and it can't burn DVD+DLs either. On the latest available firmware, all system updates applied and running 10.5.8. Never managed to figure out the problem, ended up having to use an external Lite-On and occupy one of its two precious USB ports. (At least with PCs I can successfully diagnose most problems, I can't fathom the reason for why half of the problems I have with Macs even come about in the first place!)
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On 1 Feb 2010, at 15:14, Christopher Woods wrote: But seriously, how old is the Mac? I noticed some older Macs at my old Uni had problems with a couple of my USB sticks, although they were USB2.0 and everything-else-compatible. Just seemingly refused to work. On the basis of no information at all, I'm guessing that the USB drives in question might have been formatted NTFS, or something. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video
On the basis of no information at all, I'm guessing that the USB drives in question might have been formatted NTFS, or something. Fingers crossed their editor guy's using NTFS-3G :) (which, for those who use it, just got a premium commercial counterpart release with some nice fixes as Tuxera NTFS for Mac OS X) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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NTFS has been around since ... 1993, it would have to be a very, very old Mac, surely not to have NTFS support? You can mount NTFS formatted hard drives onto Macs. On 1 February 2010 15:41, Stephen Jolly st...@jollys.org wrote: On 1 Feb 2010, at 15:14, Christopher Woods wrote: But seriously, how old is the Mac? I noticed some older Macs at my old Uni had problems with a couple of my USB sticks, although they were USB2.0 and everything-else-compatible. Just seemingly refused to work. On the basis of no information at all, I'm guessing that the USB drives in question might have been formatted NTFS, or something. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
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On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 16:01, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv wrote: NTFS has been around since ... 1993, it would have to be a very, very old Mac, surely not to have NTFS support? You can mount NTFS formatted hard drives onto Macs. 10.4 added read-only support for NTFS; Panther-running Macs don't support it without hackery which would be a huge pain in the rear end to attempt to implement now (good luck finding a MacFUSE+NTFS-3G build which works on Panther). M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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NTFS but mac ain't that old. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tvwrote: NTFS has been around since ... 1993, it would have to be a very, very old Mac, surely not to have NTFS support? You can mount NTFS formatted hard drives onto Macs. On 1 February 2010 15:41, Stephen Jolly st...@jollys.org wrote: On 1 Feb 2010, at 15:14, Christopher Woods wrote: But seriously, how old is the Mac? I noticed some older Macs at my old Uni had problems with a couple of my USB sticks, although they were USB2.0 and everything-else-compatible. Just seemingly refused to work. On the basis of no information at all, I'm guessing that the USB drives in question might have been formatted NTFS, or something. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Ant Miller tel: 07709 265961 email: ant.mil...@gmail.com
Re: [backstage] BBC RD Move- Video
On 1 Feb 2010, at 16:01, Brian Butterworth wrote: NTFS has been around since ... 1993, it would have to be a very, very old Mac, surely not to have NTFS support? You can mount NTFS formatted hard drives onto Macs. http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=663637 S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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On 1 Feb 2010, at 15:14, Christopher Woods wrote: just epic fails to read some DVDs, and it can't burn DVD+DLs either. That will probably be because it is a DVD-R drive - during the DVDR format wars Apple was on the DVD-R team so didn't support DVD+R till drives came with both. f - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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just epic fails to read some DVDs, and it can't burn DVD+DLs either. That will probably be because it is a DVD-R drive - during the DVDR format wars Apple was on the DVD-R team so didn't support DVD+R till drives came with both. Urgh, really? I completely forgot about that, I wasn't on the DVD burning bandwagon until after the +/- war had pretty much resolved itself. The MBP I use at work is one of the first-gen Intels (MBP1,1). - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Christopher Woods chris...@infinitus.co.uk wrote: just epic fails to read some DVDs, and it can't burn DVD+DLs either. That will probably be because it is a DVD-R drive - during the DVDR format wars Apple was on the DVD-R team so didn't support DVD+R till drives came with both. Urgh, really? I completely forgot about that, I wasn't on the DVD burning bandwagon until after the +/- war had pretty much resolved itself. The MBP I use at work is one of the first-gen Intels (MBP1,1). - It could also be starting to fail. I replaced the one in my old macbook twice. I'm not sure why but they don't seem to last very well compared to other laptop drives. They use slim drives which are expensive and replacing them is a pain as you have to take the entire machine apart. /grumble Matt. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
