Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'm still wondering why you can't download the radio podcasts from the new iPlayer... Coming soon. Some tech challenges, but also a UI challenge of how on earth do we signal that yes, you CAN download The Now Show, but no you CAN'T download the Chris Moyles Breakfast Show though you CAN download a highlights package. Rest assured, we're on it.
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Adam Hatia wrote: It claims to be true 1280x720 @24fps... http://vimeo.com/help/hd ... The video in the link posted by Tom Hannen wasn't displayed at that resolution, even when you clicked the HD toggle (which changed the amount of lossy compression applied). Perhaps there's a different way to get the higher resolution? But wait, it can't really be HD... can it? Yes! It's real, true, actual high definition. No tricks. Some other sites (we won't name names) and even a few major media producers have been offering low resolution video as HD just because it's slightly higher than the quality typically seen on video sharing web sites, hoping you won't notice. Don't be fooled, Vimeo HD is true 1280×720, up to 24fps. I guess 720p24 *is* technically a true, actual high definition standard, although I would be very sad to see it widely adopted... :-) (I think that for most *video* material, of actual moving subjects, you'd be better off picking a lower spatial resolution and a higher frame rate. Except for material where the director has deliberately chosen a low frame rate for effect, of course.) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
I guess 720p24 *is* technically a true, actual high definition standard, although I would be very sad to see it widely adopted... :-) (I think that for most *video* material, of actual moving subjects, you'd be better off picking a lower spatial resolution and a higher frame rate. Except for material where the director has deliberately chosen a low frame rate for effect, of course.) 25fps, 1280x720, 16:9 (0.87 megapixels) is what is going to be in Freeview HD, the DVB-T2 service. -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Inferior to Sky HD / Freesat / Virgin V+ then (broadcast at 1080i25), or is the compression lower? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 11 July 2008 11:10 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel? I guess 720p24 *is* technically a true, actual high definition standard, although I would be very sad to see it widely adopted... :-) (I think that for most *video* material, of actual moving subjects, you'd be better off picking a lower spatial resolution and a higher frame rate. Except for material where the director has deliberately chosen a low frame rate for effect, of course.) 25fps, 1280x720, 16:9 (0.87 megapixels) is what is going to be in Freeview HD, the DVB-T2 service. -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
2008/7/11 Adam Hatia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Inferior to Sky HD / Freesat / Virgin V+ then (broadcast at 1080i25), or is the compression lower? Yes. They are going to squeeze three HD channels into the 30Mb/s. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 11 July 2008 11:10 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel? I guess 720p24 *is* technically a true, actual high definition standard, although I would be very sad to see it widely adopted... :-) (I think that for most *video* material, of actual moving subjects, you'd be better off picking a lower spatial resolution and a higher frame rate. Except for material where the director has deliberately chosen a low frame rate for effect, of course.) 25fps, 1280x720, 16:9 (0.87 megapixels) is what is going to be in Freeview HD, the DVB-T2 service. -- . Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Brian Butterworth wrote: 1080i25), or is the compression lower? Yes. They are going to squeeze three HD channels into the 30Mb/s. Four, according to the OFCOM plan. It's based on a report by Zetacast which shows large improvements going to occur in MPEG4 coders and stat-muxing between now and 2020. http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/dttfuture/report.pdf 25fps, 1280x720, 16:9 (0.87 megapixels) is what is going to be in Freeview HD, the DVB-T2 service. It's an option being considered. -- *Simon Thompson MEng MIET * Research Engineer (Electronics) PRINCE2^TM Registered Practitioner *BBC Future Media and Technology* A14, Kingswood Warren, Woodland Way, Tadworth, Surrey, KT20 6NP *T:* 01737 839818 *E:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Brian Butterworth wrote: 25fps, 1280x720, 16:9 (0.87 megapixels) is what is going to be in Freeview HD, the DVB-T2 service. I'm not aware that anyone has ever suggested a 720p25 HD service in the UK. Ofcom have proposed putting four *720p50* services into a DVB-T2 multiplex. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Simon Thompson wrote: 25fps, 1280x720, 16:9 (0.87 megapixels) is what is going to be in Freeview HD, the DVB-T2 service. It's an option being considered. oops - I misread that - 720p50 is an option in the Ofcom licence conditions - not 720p25 -- *Simon Thompson MEng MIET * Research Engineer (Electronics) PRINCE2^TM Registered Practitioner *BBC Future Media and Technology* *E:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Four, according to the OFCOM plan. It's based on a report by Zetacast which shows large improvements going to occur in MPEG4 coders and stat-muxing between now and 2020. http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/dttfuture/report.pdf Actually it's three for now, with the fourth one much, much later. http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/dttfuture/ita.pdf http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/dttfuture/report.pdf 25fps, 1280x720, 16:9 (0.87 megapixels) is what is going to be in Freeview HD, the DVB-T2 service. It's an option being considered. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Does anyone know of any study results or resources on perceived quality comparisons between various resolutions (e.g. 1080i25 vs 720p50) encodings? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Jolly Sent: 11 July 2008 12:49 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel? Brian Butterworth wrote: 25fps, 1280x720, 16:9 (0.87 megapixels) is what is going to be in Freeview HD, the DVB-T2 service. I'm not aware that anyone has ever suggested a 720p25 HD service in the UK. Ofcom have proposed putting four *720p50* services into a DVB-T2 multiplex. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Adam Hatia wrote: Does anyone know of any study results or resources on perceived quality comparisons between various resolutions (e.g. 1080i25 vs 720p50) encodings? Hans Hoffman has done some research in this area for the EBU: http://www.ebu.ch/en/technical/trev/trev_308-hdtv.pdf has some early qualitative opinions in, and there's a presentation of his more recent, quantitative work at http://hdmasters2007.com/pdf/Presentations/HDM2007_Hoffmann-EBU.pdf Personally I found his results intriguingly counter-intuitive (in a good way). :-) Rainer Schaefer reports on the work done by the EBU D/HDC group in section 2.5 of http://www.ebu.ch/CMSimages/en/PMC08%20Report-FINAL_tcm6-58345.pdf S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Very interesting - many thanks! Hans Hoffman has done some research in this area for the EBU: http://www.ebu.ch/en/technical/trev/trev_308-hdtv.pdf has some early qualitative opinions in, and there's a presentation of his more recent, quantitative work at http://hdmasters2007.com/pdf/Presentations/HDM2007_Hoffmann-EBU.pdf Personally I found his results intriguingly counter-intuitive (in a good way). :-) Rainer Schaefer reports on the work done by the EBU D/HDC group in section 2.5 of http://www.ebu.ch/CMSimages/en/PMC08%20Report-FINAL_tcm6-58345.pdf - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth 2008/7/9 Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Brian Butterworth wrote: Was it a bad idea to include BBC HD on iPlayer too? Are there any programmes on BBC HD that are not also broadcast (or even simulcast) on other channels? Quite a lot of the content on BBC HD is not simulcast and has worked it's way of the normal iPlayer (for example Torchwood is still on HD). Given the repeat cycle of BBC HD, if their stuff was on there, there would be more than a few programmes which would never leave iPlayer, which could raise some interesting questions. (would doing that be in the spirit of the BBC Trust rulings on iPlayer's catch-up TV service, for example) Sure someone has had a few meetings about things like that :)
RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Mm, true - perhaps in the future iPlayer will have a 'download in HD' option where available alongside the listing for the SD broadcast? The information in this email is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient of this message any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Bauer Radio and or its subsidiaries do not warrant that any attachments are free from viruses or other defects and accept no liability for any losses resulting from infected email transmissions. Please note that any views expressed in this email may be those of the originator and do not necessarily reflect those of this organisation. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Bowden Sent: 10 July 2008 09:32 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth 2008/7/9 Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Brian Butterworth wrote: Was it a bad idea to include BBC HD on iPlayer too? Are there any programmes on BBC HD that are not also broadcast (or even simulcast) on other channels? Quite a lot of the content on BBC HD is not simulcast and has worked it's way of the normal iPlayer (for example Torchwood is still on HD). Given the repeat cycle of BBC HD, if their stuff was on there, there would be more than a few programmes which would never leave iPlayer, which could raise some interesting questions. (would doing that be in the spirit of the BBC Trust rulings on iPlayer's catch-up TV service, for example) Sure someone has had a few meetings about things like that :) Bauer Radio Ltd, part of the Bauer Publishing Group, is home to a growing network of no.1 commercial radio stations in all major markets in the UK and the no.1 commercial broadcaster in national digital radio. The information in this email is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient of this message any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Bauer Radio Ltd and or its subsidiaries do not warrant that any attachments are free from viruses or other defects and accept no liability for any losses resulting from infected email transmissions. Please note that any views expressed in this email may be those of the originator and do not necessarily reflect those of this organisation. Bauer Radio Ltd, Company number: 1394141 (England), Registered Office: 21 Holborn Viaduct, London EC1A 2DY
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Perhaps there will be a 'download in HD' button when BBC HD starts the 9-hour a day service that the BBC Trust approved? Whenever that is I'm still wondering why you can't download the radio podcasts from the new iPlayer... 2008/7/10 Mark Newby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mm, true – perhaps in the future iPlayer will have a 'download in HD' option where available alongside the listing for the SD broadcast? The information in this email is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient of this message any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Bauer Radio and or its subsidiaries do not warrant that any attachments are free from viruses or other defects and accept no liability for any losses resulting from infected email transmissions. Please note that any views expressed in this email may be those of the originator and do not necessarily reflect those of this organisation. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Bowden *Sent:* 10 July 2008 09:32 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel? -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth 2008/7/9 Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Brian Butterworth wrote: Was it a bad idea to include BBC HD on iPlayer too? Are there any programmes on BBC HD that are not also broadcast (or even simulcast) on other channels? Quite a lot of the content on BBC HD is not simulcast and has worked it's way of the normal iPlayer (for example Torchwood is still on HD). Given the repeat cycle of BBC HD, if their stuff was on there, there would be more than a few programmes which would never leave iPlayer, which could raise some interesting questions. (would doing that be in the spirit of the BBC Trust rulings on iPlayer's catch-up TV service, for example) Sure someone has had a few meetings about things like that :) Bauer Radio Ltd, part of the Bauer Publishing Group, is home to a growing network of no.1 commercial radio stations in all major markets in the UK and the no.1 commercial broadcaster in national digital radio. The information in this email is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient of this message any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Bauer Radio Ltd and or its subsidiaries do not warrant that any attachments are free from viruses or other defects and accept no liability for any losses resulting from infected email transmissions. Please note that any views expressed in this email may be those of the originator and do not necessarily reflect those of this organisation. Bauer Radio Ltd, Company number: 1394141 (England), Registered Office: 21 Holborn Viaduct, London EC1A 2DY -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
It claims to be true 1280x720 @24fps... http://vimeo.com/help/hd ... But wait, it can't really be HD... can it? Yes! It's real, true, actual high definition. No tricks. Some other sites (we won't name names) and even a few major media producers have been offering low resolution video as HD just because it's slightly higher than the quality typically seen on video sharing web sites, hoping you won't notice. Don't be fooled, Vimeo HD is true 1280×720, up to 24fps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Jolly Sent: 09 July 2008 21:20 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel? Tom Hannen wrote: The iPlayer is great, but in terms of HD, Vimeo now seems to be the place to look at. Their HD channel is amazing, but unfortunately relegates the BBC's iPlayer into looking like yesterday's technology... Their HD channel is here: http://vimeo.com/channel778e An example: http://vimeo.com/775442 At 360 vertical lines, that's barely more resolution than the old quarter-screen BBC Parliament service on Freeview - it's not even SD quality. The video quality is better than the streaming iPlayer service (I don't have a Windows PC handy to try the iPlayer download service, which is higher quality), but calling it HD is a bit of a cheek. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
I don't get all this HD Flash stuff, which has become suddenly special. Blip.tv have been doing 720p videos for the last 2 plus years. Although to be fair when I first posted one, it didn't support Widescreen correctly. http://blip.tv/file/181506 - Sunset in Scotland http://blip.tv/file/219052 - Sunset near the Golden Gate Bridge http://blip.tv/file/218845 http://blip.tv/file/84176 http://blip.tv/file/134914 - not to everyone's taste :) By the way there not very sharp because my 720p camera captures straight to Mpeg4 and compresses everything. Don't believe me, check out the Raw Mpeg4s. http://blip.tv/file/get/Cubicgarden-SANY0001975.MP4 - HD http://blip.tv/file/get/Cubicgarden-SANY0001975.flv - Flash HD http://blip.tv/file/get/Cubicgarden-SANY0001975.mov - SD Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Hatia Sent: 10 July 2008 10:15 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel? It claims to be true 1280x720 @24fps... http://vimeo.com/help/hd ... But wait, it can't really be HD... can it? Yes! It's real, true, actual high definition. No tricks. Some other sites (we won't name names) and even a few major media producers have been offering low resolution video as HD just because it's slightly higher than the quality typically seen on video sharing web sites, hoping you won't notice. Don't be fooled, Vimeo HD is true 1280×720, up to 24fps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Jolly Sent: 09 July 2008 21:20 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel? Tom Hannen wrote: The iPlayer is great, but in terms of HD, Vimeo now seems to be the place to look at. Their HD channel is amazing, but unfortunately relegates the BBC's iPlayer into looking like yesterday's technology... Their HD channel is here: http://vimeo.com/channel778e An example: http://vimeo.com/775442 At 360 vertical lines, that's barely more resolution than the old quarter-screen BBC Parliament service on Freeview - it's not even SD quality. The video quality is better than the streaming iPlayer service (I don't have a Windows PC handy to try the iPlayer download service, which is higher quality), but calling it HD is a bit of a cheek. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Brian Butterworth wrote: Was it a bad idea to include BBC HD on iPlayer too? Are there any programmes on BBC HD that are not also broadcast (or even simulcast) on other channels? S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
btw, I just tried http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbchd/programmes/schedules/2008/07/09.xml and it works! 2008/7/9 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/7/9 Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Brian Butterworth wrote: Was it a bad idea to include BBC HD on iPlayer too? Are there any programmes on BBC HD that are not also broadcast (or even simulcast) on other channels? Quite a lot of the content on BBC HD is not simulcast and has worked it's way of the normal iPlayer (for example Torchwood is still on HD). However, I did rather fancy being able to download it in HD from the iPlayer. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
The iPlayer is great, but in terms of HD, Vimeo now seems to be the place to look at. Their HD channel is amazing, but unfortunately relegates the BBC's iPlayer into looking like yesterday's technology... Their HD channel is here: http://vimeo.com/channel778e An example: http://vimeo.com/775442 If they can do it, it would be superb if the BBC could too - although Vimeo probably don't need to convince the BBC Trust of anything before executing a good idea... Tom On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw, I just tried http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbchd/programmes/schedules/2008/07/09.xml and it works! 2008/7/9 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/7/9 Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Brian Butterworth wrote: Was it a bad idea to include BBC HD on iPlayer too? Are there any programmes on BBC HD that are not also broadcast (or even simulcast) on other channels? Quite a lot of the content on BBC HD is not simulcast and has worked it's way of the normal iPlayer (for example Torchwood is still on HD). However, I did rather fancy being able to download it in HD from the iPlayer. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Tom Hannen wrote: The iPlayer is great, but in terms of HD, Vimeo now seems to be the place to look at. Their HD channel is amazing, but unfortunately relegates the BBC's iPlayer into looking like yesterday's technology... Their HD channel is here: http://vimeo.com/channel778e An example: http://vimeo.com/775442 At 360 vertical lines, that's barely more resolution than the old quarter-screen BBC Parliament service on Freeview - it's not even SD quality. The video quality is better than the streaming iPlayer service (I don't have a Windows PC handy to try the iPlayer download service, which is higher quality), but calling it HD is a bit of a cheek. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer - why the missing TV channel?
Wow! Yes, that's what I was after from BBC iPlayer! 2008/7/9 Tom Hannen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The iPlayer is great, but in terms of HD, Vimeo now seems to be the place to look at. Their HD channel is amazing, but unfortunately relegates the BBC's iPlayer into looking like yesterday's technology... Their HD channel is here: http://vimeo.com/channel778e An example: http://vimeo.com/775442 If they can do it, it would be superb if the BBC could too - although Vimeo probably don't need to convince the BBC Trust of anything before executing a good idea... Tom On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw, I just tried http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbchd/programmes/schedules/2008/07/09.xml and it works! 2008/7/9 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/7/9 Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Brian Butterworth wrote: Was it a bad idea to include BBC HD on iPlayer too? Are there any programmes on BBC HD that are not also broadcast (or even simulcast) on other channels? Quite a lot of the content on BBC HD is not simulcast and has worked it's way of the normal iPlayer (for example Torchwood is still on HD). However, I did rather fancy being able to download it in HD from the iPlayer. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
