RE: [backstage] Funny Story
I'm would still be interested to hear Davy's reason for not having Flash installed - just for anecdotal evidence - we do use flash for interactive presentations and it's very useful and widely distributed, but we're aware of all the problems and tradeoffs it brings with it. For the Pregnancy Timeline I can't think why we wouldn't have an accesible alternative so I will follow up on that. Kevin. And of course, to accessible, there has to be a Flash alternative, surely? Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Funny Story
Hi I run an intel mac. I am sad that I cannot now enjoy radio so conveniently (but it is still possible) and video (at all). i guess we are waiting for Real to do their thing? Angus --- Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm would still be interested to hear Davy's reason for not having Flash installed - just for anecdotal evidence - we do use flash for interactive presentations and it's very useful and widely distributed, but we're aware of all the problems and tradeoffs it brings with it. For the Pregnancy Timeline I can't think why we wouldn't have an accesible alternative so I will follow up on that. Kevin. And of course, to accessible, there has to be a Flash alternative, surely? Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ ___ Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Funny Story
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 11:43:09AM +0100, Angus Nicol wrote: Hi I run an intel mac. I am sad that I cannot now enjoy radio so conveniently (but it is still possible) and video (at all). i guess we are waiting for Real to do their thing? Angus I've got a macbook pro and installed Real Player (free version) with no problems at all, including firefox and safari plugins. What's the problem your having? Angus --- Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm would still be interested to hear Davy's reason for not having Flash installed - just for anecdotal evidence - we do use flash for interactive presentations and it's very useful and widely distributed, but we're aware of all the problems and tradeoffs it brings with it. For the Pregnancy Timeline I can't think why we wouldn't have an accesible alternative so I will follow up on that. Kevin. And of course, to accessible, there has to be a Flash alternative, surely? Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ ___ Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Funny Story
At 14:19 +0100 3/7/06, Kevin Hinde wrote: I'm would still be interested to hear Davy's reason for not having Flash installed - just for anecdotal evidence - we do use flash for interactive presentations and it's very useful and widely distributed, but we're aware of all the problems and tradeoffs it brings with it. For the Pregnancy Timeline I can't think why we wouldn't have an accesible alternative so I will follow up on that. If you access the Pregancy Timeline (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4121411.stm) with javascript turned off you do get a nice accessible version, which is what should happen if you haven't got flash installed, so I've raised a bug report. I have just installed the Flash player on my PDA, and noticed the low res (and hence accessible) version. Very nice too. Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Funny Story
At 15:33 +0100 3/7/06, Kim Plowright wrote: 5) Flash is one of the most abused web technologies in the world ever. Disabling it by either not having it installed or using a flash-blocker type app/extension can save a lot of eye-bleeding pain from those crazy kooky marketing guys. /me laughs so hard she blows coffee out of her nose. Actually, there's a fabulous article in this month's 'Creative Review' about how flash 8 is like, totally f'shure going to be the coolest thing to happen to marketing in like EVAR, which goes on for three pages and doesn't once mention accessibility. Looks pretty though. ;-) YouTube, NowPublic, FLICKR, etc etc. Welcome to Web 2.0, powered by Shockwave!! With a little help from ECMAScript... Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] RE: Mac Playback [was : backstage Funny Story]
Flip4Mac are currently Beta testing their universal binaries package for the Flip4Mac WMV plugin. Pretty soon you ought to be able to at least view the BBC news WMV streams in Quicktime on the intel mac. Cheers - Neil At 11:43 04/07/2006, you wrote: Hi I run an intel mac. I am sad that I cannot now enjoy radio so conveniently (but it is still possible) and video (at all). i guess we are waiting for Real to do their thing? Angus --- Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm would still be interested to hear Davy's reason for not having Flash installed - just for anecdotal evidence - we do use flash for interactive presentations and it's very useful and widely distributed, but we're aware of all the problems and tradeoffs it brings with it. For the Pregnancy Timeline I can't think why we wouldn't have an accesible alternative so I will follow up on that. Kevin. And of course, to accessible, there has to be a Flash alternative, surely? Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ ___ Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Funny Story
At 16:18 +0100 4/7/06, Frank Wales wrote: On 07/03/2006 03:33 PM, Kim Plowright wrote: Actually, there's a fabulous article in this month's 'Creative Review' about how flash 8 is like, totally f'shure going to be the coolest thing to happen to marketing in like EVAR, which goes on for three pages and doesn't once mention accessibility. Looks pretty though. ;-) Aw, fuff. For creating your web-transportable eye candy, Flash is just sooo last millennium now; it takes industrial-strength AJAX abuse to create classy browser bamboozlathons these days. Plus, with no plugins required for AJAX in a modern browser, the potential population of confusion is larger than ever. Hooray! :-) -- Frank Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] * While no browser plug-in is required for Ajax, it requires users to have JavaScript enabled in their browsers. This applies to all browsers that support Ajax except for Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 and below which additionally require ActiveX to be enabled, as the XMLHTTP object is implemented with ActiveX in this browser. Internet Explorer 7, however, will implement this interface as a native JavaScript object and hence does not need ActiveX to be enabled for Ajax to work. * Quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX Win win situation then? :-) Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Funny Story
I thought this email was going to be an amusing anecdote about a mashup :-) What is the URL of the feed your using? J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davy Mitchell Sent: 30 June 2006 22:58 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Funny Story I keep noticing this story in the RSS used by Mood News - been there for months... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4121411.stm Looks a bit broken? :-) Davy -- Davy Mitchell Mood News - BBC News Headlines Auto-Classified as Good, Bad or Neutral. http://www.latedecember.com/sites/moodnews/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Funny Story
George Wright wrote:
1) Flash for Linux on 32 bit x86 machines ('PCs') lags behind Windows
versions, so sometimes there's a 2 version lag. at the moment Flash for
Linux is version 7.something, whereas windows has 8.5
2) There is no Flash for Linux on PPC ('Macs'), at all - so anyone running
this OS can't use Flash, at all.
3) Getting Flash working on Linux on 64bit machines is temperamental at
best. Ditto for some of the BSDs
4) Flash in not Free software (as in it's not available for
redistribution/ modification/ code analysis), so some people won't/ can't
install it at all, whether it's available for their computer or not.
5) Flash is one of the most abused web technologies in the world ever.
Disabling it by either not having it installed or using a flash-blocker
type app/extension can save a lot of eye-bleeding pain from those crazy
kooky marketing guys.
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Re: [backstage] Funny Story
. 5) Flash is one of the most abused web technologies in the world ever. Disabling it by either not having it installed or using a flash-blocker type app/extension can save a lot of eye-bleeding pain from those crazy kooky marketing guys. - Yes - but isn't not installing it because of what it sometimes gets used for a bit like not having any sharp knives in your kitchen because they're one of the world's most popular murder weapons? ;-) Cheers, Rich. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Funny Story
5) Flash is one of the most abused web technologies in the world ever. Disabling it by either not having it installed or using a flash-blocker type app/extension can save a lot of eye-bleeding pain from those crazy kooky marketing guys. /me laughs so hard she blows coffee out of her nose. Actually, there's a fabulous article in this month's 'Creative Review' about how flash 8 is like, totally f'shure going to be the coolest thing to happen to marketing in like EVAR, which goes on for three pages and doesn't once mention accessibility. Looks pretty though. ;-) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Funny Story
Gordon Joly wrote: [snip] I have a phone (that runs Windows Mobile) but does not have Flash 8: discuss. You can just download it from http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer_pocketpc/ :-P Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Funny Story
I see now - its a flash plugin which I don't have installed :-) Still begs the question why a 2004 story is still in the RSS feed? Cheers, Davy On 6/30/06, Kirk Northrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Davy Mitchell wrote: Looks a bit broken? What's wrong with it? -- From the North, this is Kirk www.noisetosignal.org - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Davy Mitchell Mood News - BBC News Headlines Auto-Classified as Good, Bad or Neutral. http://www.latedecember.com/sites/moodnews/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Funny Story
I keep noticing this story in the RSS used by Mood News - been there for months... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4121411.stm Looks a bit broken? :-) Davy -- Davy Mitchell Mood News - BBC News Headlines Auto-Classified as Good, Bad or Neutral. http://www.latedecember.com/sites/moodnews/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Funny Story
Davy Mitchell wrote: Looks a bit broken? What's wrong with it? -- From the North, this is Kirk www.noisetosignal.org - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
