[backstage] Google Wave - Too early for consumers
Hi All, I was at Social Media Café Manchester yesterday and there was a session about Wave. I and Paul Robertson stated the fact that the wave people are there seeing isn't wave at all. Its simply a rough cut implementation of what's possible with the wave protocol. http://search.twitter.com/search?q=ands=wavephrase=ors=nots=tag=smc_mcrlang=allfrom=to=ref=near=within=15units=misince=2009-11-30until=2009-12-02rpp=15 So during the rest of the discussion and reading this - http://orchard.co.uk/Blog/Google-Wave-much-maligned-but-missunderstood-128.aspx, I'm wondered if Google had put out wave too early for consumers? What do others think? Secret[] Private[] Public[x] Ian Forrester Senior Backstage Producer BBC RD North Lab, 1st Floor Office, OB Base, New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road, Manchester, M60 1SJ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Wave - Too early for consumers
2009/12/2 Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk: seeing isn't wave at all. Its simply a rough cut implementation of what's possible with the wave protocol. Right; the protocol seems sound enough, and I expect that (like Novell) it will get picked up by projects that would have had to have done the engineering on such a protocol themselves. But there are relatively few of those projects, and so I don't expect it will be soon that we see anything 'wow'-worth out of Wave. I think it will get subsumed by projects that use it and we will know those by their own names and indeed may come to know Wave itself by those names; like people who use the web and that the web _is_ the internet... wondered if Google had put out wave too early for consumers? As Scot said, its hardly had a consumer release. Anyone who is involved in projects that might make use of such technology have heard about it, understand it, and probably by now have a beta account. What's the fuss? :-) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Wave - Too early for consumers
On 2 Dec 2009, at 13:15, Ian Forrester wrote: So during the rest of the discussion and reading this - http://orchard.co.uk/Blog/Google-Wave-much-maligned-but-missunderstood-128.aspx, I'm wondered if Google had putout wave too early for consumers? I can't say I agree with Andy Chesters - Google announced the open source, open standard nature of Wave right back when the project itself was made public at Google I/O 2009: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/went-walkabout-brought-back-google-wave.html No desire to to hide the fact that the technology is not exclusive to Google that I can see. I'm also not convinced that the performance issues with the Wave beta are mainly (or even slightly) due to the fact that all the current Wave servers are running in Google's data centres. Surely the spread of Wave servers to the far corners of the Internet will make things worse, as bandwidths fall and latency rises between the servers participating in a given Wave? Waves with participants who all use the same server might see a performance increase I guess, all other things being equal. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Hi, still one left? if so, I'd go for a a try. Juergen On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Hi folks, I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like one. I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome. I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it. Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Wave
One in the post. Hi, still one left? if so, I'd go for a a try. Juergen On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Hi folks, I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like one. I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome. I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it. Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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I've found it a bit problematic- there's nothing wrong with the day to day interaction, and the system though flakey is pretty good considering what it's trying to do. However, the 'contriibutor managment' model is really bad for a lot of situations. It's really hard to find other users in Wave. It's impossible to set t the outset what the distribution of a wave should be (you have to assume that they WILL be public- dangerous unless you live in a world without lawyers or Daily Mail journos!) It's impossible to actively manage what waves YOU get attached to. In essence it treats the world as a great big friendly share everything playschool, where nobody even has surprise parties let alone personal private conversations. Unless it sorts this out, and introduces a robust (and I mean properly robust) contributor management model I'd actual recommend we don't use it for work dialogues. On the other hand for properly public conversatios, like these, it might well be an excellent tool. Maybe. Not sure. a On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Juergen Hoehn juergen.ho...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, still one left? if so, I'd go for a a try. Juergen On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Hi folks, I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like one. I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome. I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it. Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Ant Miller tel: 07709 265961 email: ant.mil...@gmail.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:20, Ant Miller ant.mil...@gmail.com wrote: Unless it sorts this out, and introduces a robust (and I mean properly robust) contributor management model I'd actual recommend we don't use it for work dialogues. I’d recommend waiting for a self-hosted server for “proper” use. I’d consider Google’s server to be more of a proof-of-concept than anything useful for real purposes. On the other hand for properly public conversatios, like these, it might well be an excellent tool. Maybe. Not sure. If the UX was cleaned up and streamlined a bit, then yeah, could supplant mailing lists/discussion groups to an extent. M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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On 1 Dec 2009, at 11:20, Ant Miller wrote: It's impossible to set t the outset what the distribution of a wave should be (you have to assume that they WILL be public- dangerous unless you live in a world without lawyers or Daily Mail journos!) It's impossible to actively manage what waves YOU get attached to. In essence it treats the world as a great big friendly share everything playschool, where nobody even has surprise parties let alone personal private conversations. Surely email has the same issue? Nothing stops me from bccing or forwarding emails from supposedly private conversations to third parties there. I'm not saying that a better way to manage participants wouldn't be welcome, but surely the existing one is no worse than those of older technologies? S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Its worse because you know the rules of email at the outset before you start playing. Once people become familiar with wave then protocols and accepted behaiviour will emerge, but for now, I'm finding the Oh I added you to a work/holiday/pictures of my cat! wave phenomenon irritating as well Is it possible to remove yourself from a wave and make it so people can't add you back on? I guess I would have expected some sort of 'you have been added to this wave, do you accept?' notification and a notification to all other users that you got added Alia Stephen Jolly wrote: On 1 Dec 2009, at 11:20, Ant Miller wrote: It's impossible to set t the outset what the distribution of a wave should be (you have to assume that they WILL be public- dangerous unless you live in a world without lawyers or Daily Mail journos!) It's impossible to actively manage what waves YOU get attached to. In essence it treats the world as a great big friendly share everything playschool, where nobody even has surprise parties let alone personal private conversations. Surely email has the same issue? Nothing stops me from bccing or forwarding emails from supposedly private conversations to third parties there. I'm not saying that a better way to manage participants wouldn't be welcome, but surely the existing one is no worse than those of older technologies? S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Anyone know what the rules are to upload a photo for your profile pic. I've got a small 50x46 pixel jpg file but it just won't accept it: One or more of the files you selected could not be uploaded. They may be too large or not valid image files. Please check the files and your internet connection and then try again. I tired larger and worked my way down, then got bored. 2009/11/27 Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net Brian Butterworth wrote: Hi folks, I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like one. I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome. I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it. It can be really nice if you have a few friends who also have it, conversations move from just being gimmicky fun to actually being quite engaging if you start to use its multimedia features. However, I'm unsure as to its usefulness as a business tool just yet - I'm open to persuasion though as long as it's actually justifiable ;) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Google Wave
From: Tim Dobson Brian Butterworth wrote: Hi folks, I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like one. I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome. I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it. Can't say it's bowled me over - I think it's been rather overhyped. And ultimately if it's to replace email or IM, it needs to be far simpler. My mum wouldn't have a clue. Another tool in the arsenal - that I can see. 14 invites by the way if you want one - drop me a note :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Hi Brian. What are the invited for? Thanks Tania From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 27 November 2009 07:38 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Google Wave Hi folks, I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like one. -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
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If they're going I'd like one to take a gander. Thanks Hi folks, I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like one. -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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I wouldnt mind one if they're still free. Thanks On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Lee Ball l...@leenukes.co.uk wrote: If they're going I'd like one to take a gander. Thanks Hi folks, I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like one. -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Wave
Brian Butterworth wrote: Hi folks, I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like one. I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome. I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it. Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Another 16 here if anyone wants one. 2009/11/27 Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net Brian Butterworth wrote: Hi folks, I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like one. I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome. I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it. Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Google Wave
2009/11/27 Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net Brian Butterworth wrote: Hi folks, I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like one. I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome. I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it. It can be really nice if you have a few friends who also have it, conversations move from just being gimmicky fun to actually being quite engaging if you start to use its multimedia features. However, I'm unsure as to its usefulness as a business tool just yet - I'm open to persuasion though as long as it's actually justifiable ;)
[backstage] Google Wave
Hi folks, I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like one. -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] Google Wave
On 09/10/09 20:33, Gary Kirk wrote: Nobody who gets invites from Google is getting invites of their own yet. Not true. The 100,000 people who got invitations on October 1st all had 8 invitations to give away (presumably on the basis that a communication tool is pretty useless unless you know other people using it). As I understand it, the 800,000 people who got those second level invitations didn't get any other invitations to pass on. And, no, I don't have any invitations left. Dave... - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Richard Lockwood wrote: Oh - peed off doesn't come into it. And thank you - if it does, you're a gent and I owe you a pint. I still stand by my opinion of Google's tactics though. :-) Yeah, I'd 100% agree there though I'd probably use less expletives to produce the same effect. It's a slimey marketing campaign though. Anyway, I just got my invite last night - timmydobson at gmail dot com I dont really understand it yet from playing with it for two minutes. If I can send invites, I might send some this way, but I suspect the public waiting list is as good a place as any by now. Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Tim If you haven't watched it, I really recommend you watch Lars's demo that is online. It is an hour and a half or so, but it gives a VERY good feel for what they think is possible. I stuck it on the phone and watched it on the commute. I got quite excited at some points. As a support company I am immensely excited about what this can do for us and our customers internal and external communication. I think (and hope) it will be a massive success as we could really use a tool like this. Rupert Watson www.root6.com +44 7787 554801 -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Tim Dobson Sent: 09 October 2009 08:47 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Wave Richard Lockwood wrote: Oh - peed off doesn't come into it. And thank you - if it does, you're a gent and I owe you a pint. I still stand by my opinion of Google's tactics though. :-) Yeah, I'd 100% agree there though I'd probably use less expletives to produce the same effect. It's a slimey marketing campaign though. Anyway, I just got my invite last night - timmydobson at gmail dot com I dont really understand it yet from playing with it for two minutes. If I can send invites, I might send some this way, but I suspect the public waiting list is as good a place as any by now. Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ROOT 6 LIMITED Registered in the UK at 4 WARDOUR MEWS, LONDON W1F 8AJ Company No. 03433253 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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I guess I'm going to loath it until I get an invite, just like I did with Gmail... 2009/10/9 Rupert Watson rup...@root6.com Tim If you haven't watched it, I really recommend you watch Lars's demo that is online. It is an hour and a half or so, but it gives a VERY good feel for what they think is possible. I stuck it on the phone and watched it on the commute. I got quite excited at some points. As a support company I am immensely excited about what this can do for us and our customers internal and external communication. I think (and hope) it will be a massive success as we could really use a tool like this. Rupert Watson www.root6.com +44 7787 554801 -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Tim Dobson Sent: 09 October 2009 08:47 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Wave Richard Lockwood wrote: Oh - peed off doesn't come into it. And thank you - if it does, you're a gent and I owe you a pint. I still stand by my opinion of Google's tactics though. :-) Yeah, I'd 100% agree there though I'd probably use less expletives to produce the same effect. It's a slimey marketing campaign though. Anyway, I just got my invite last night - timmydobson at gmail dot com I dont really understand it yet from playing with it for two minutes. If I can send invites, I might send some this way, but I suspect the public waiting list is as good a place as any by now. Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ROOT 6 LIMITED Registered in the UK at 4 WARDOUR MEWS, LONDON W1F 8AJ Company No. 03433253 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
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I would like a Google Wave invite. Thanks L. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Luf Ball wrote: I would like a Google Wave invite. I would like a pony. -- http://billyabbott.co.uk You say tomato, I say EMACS - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Billy Abbott wrote: I would like a pony. That sounds somewhat easier: there are more ponies in the world than Google Wave invites. S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Yeah, me too... 2009/10/9 Luf Ball lufoma...@gmail.com I would like a Google Wave invite. Thanks L. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
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Nobody who gets invites from Google is getting invites of their own yet. So we will all just have to wait. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tvwrote: Yeah, me too... 2009/10/9 Luf Ball lufoma...@gmail.com I would like a Google Wave invite. Thanks L. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Gary Kirk
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Rupert Watson wrote: Tim If you haven't watched it, I really recommend you watch Lars's demo that is online. It is an hour and a half or so, but it gives a VERY good feel for what they think is possible. I stuck it on the phone and watched it on the commute. I got quite excited at some points. Uh, yeah, I should. I've got a long train journey on thursday. I might well follow your lead As a support company I am immensely excited about what this can do for us and our customers internal and external communication. I think (and hope) it will be a massive success as we could really use a tool like this. I really hope it works out for you. It's possible it will grow on me, but at the moment I was just *bored* by it from what I've seen of it so far. I kind of like how I have an email client, IM client and a wiki and am a bit uncomfortable and nonplussed by them all being put in one place. When there is a native, free software application which isn't as resource hungry as the AJAX *abuse* going on there I might feel a bit more encouraged. We'll see what happens, but to be honest, if it was a choice between a pony and a google wave invite, a pony is probably going to be more exciting. Tim P.s. anyone who thinks they need a google wave invite to be cool should sign up to pokebook.co.uk - you'll be so cool you won't need wave at all. ;) *runs* - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Google Wave
Changing the long running threads (don't think I'm not watching) Now Google Wave invites are out there and more of you have had a chance to play with wave. What do people think? And why is no one building a decent client for it? Am I the only excited person? Secret[] Private[] Public[x] Ian Forrester Senior Backstage Producer, BBC RD 01612444063 | 07711913293 ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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On 7-Oct-2009, at 17:20, Ian Forrester wrote: Changing the long running threads (don't think I'm not watching) Now Google Wave invites are out there and more of you have had a chance to play with wave. What do people think? And why is no one building a decent client for it? Give it time… the people most likely to do this may not even have access to the preview yet ;) Am I the only excited person? Nope. It shows a huge amount of potential (although it’s quite buggy at the moment). IM+Email+Docs+…stuff, all built on XMPP? I’ll take three! (I’m finding it quite buggy at the moment, though). I’m nevalic...@googlewave.com, should anybody feel the need. A search for “with:public” is quite a good place to start for those who are new to it. M. -- mo mcroberts http://nevali.net iChat: mo.mcrobe...@me.com Jabber/GTalk: m...@ilaven.net Twitter: @nevali Run Leopard or Snow Leopard? Set Quick Look free with DropLook - http://labs.jazzio.com/DropLook/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Wave
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Changing the long running threads (don't think I'm not watching) Now Google Wave invites are out there and more of you have had a chance to play with wave. What do people think? And why is no one building a decent client for it? Am I the only excited person? I think most everyone else is embarrassed to admit they'd quite like an invite. I'd quite like an invite. Main thing I'm positive about so far, is that XMPP deserves serious attention and this will help it get some... cheers, Dan - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Wave
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 17:20, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Now Google Wave invites are out there and more of you have had a chance to play with wave. What do people think? And why is no one building a decent client for it? Am I the only excited person? I had a Wave Sandbox account for some time. Thought it was very 'meh'. Blogged about it here: http://tommorris.org/blog/2009/08/08#When:15:50:47 -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Wave
As would I. On one hand I'd like an invite, on the other I'd rather gouge my eyes out than have one. The way Google pass their invites out is very clever-clever in building up a market, but it marks them out as c***s. I've worked with all kinds of Google stuff and been to various Google conferences over the years but this time I don't get an invite, whereas I have friends who couldn't give the square root of f*** all about Google who've been granted an invite. F**k 'em and the horse they rode in on. R. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Dan Brickley dan...@danbri.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk wrote: Changing the long running threads (don't think I'm not watching) Now Google Wave invites are out there and more of you have had a chance to play with wave. What do people think? And why is no one building a decent client for it? Am I the only excited person? I think most everyone else is embarrassed to admit they'd quite like an invite. I'd quite like an invite. Main thing I'm positive about so far, is that XMPP deserves serious attention and this will help it get some... cheers, Dan - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
