Re: [backstage] Introducing Chipwrapper search for UK newspapers

2007-09-02 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 01/09/07, Martin Belam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, mostly Pipes to process the RSS feeds, and the Google Custom
 Search Engine. There's also some very crude Perl of my own to add
 Newspaper: Some newspaper headline into the RSS before it gets
 passed to Feedburner, and to make the 'headline buzz' feed.

 Apologies on and off list for delay in replying to people. At the
 moment in Crete I'm getting 7.2 Kbps online in 30 second bursts. Ho ho
 ho


I had the same problem on Crete - but they had brilliant broadband on Kos...


m



 On 31/08/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Nice work Martin, I'll add it to the prototype list on Monday. What's it
 build using? Just pipes and Google custom search?
 
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  Subject: [backstage] Introducing Chipwrapper search for UK newspapers
 
  Hi all, I wanted to introduce to the list a site I've been working on,
 and invite you to have a play with the feeds being produced, and maybe help
 make some new tools for it.
 
  Called Chipwrapper, it is intended to be a hub for searching purely UK
 newspapers and UK news sources.
 
  http://www.chipwrapper.co.uk
 
  OK, I know, I know, the Chipwrapper metaphor doesn't work once you add
 TV news. Originally it was strictly newspapers only, but it just seemed
 weird to be searching UK news and not see links from the BBC, ITN and Sky.
 
  The homepage is a headline aggregator and a Google Custom Search Engine
 which only brings back results from the major UK newspapers, plus the TV
 news giants.
 
  astonishingly long link which will break in your mail client
 
 
 http://www.google.com/custom?cx=003036505619348485408%3Aminejdg5pkecof=AH%3Aleft%3BALC%3A%2366%3BBGC%3A%23FF%3BCX%3AChipwrapper%3BDIV%3A%23BB%3BFORID%3A0%3BGALT%3A%23003300%3BGFNT%3A%2366%3BGIMP%3A%2366%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.chipwrapper.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fchipwrapper-logo-small.jpg%3BLC%3A%2366%3BLH%3A35%3BLP%3A1%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.chipwrapper.co.uk%3BT%3A%2333%3BVLC%3A%23002200%3Bq=BBC+backstage
 
  /astonishingly long link which will break in your mail client
 
  I plan to add regional and local newspapers to the results later in the
 year.
 
 
  There are Opensearch plugins and a custom Google Toolbar button for the
 service.
 
  http://www.chipwrapper.co.uk/tools/browser_search_plugins.shtml
  http://www.chipwrapper.co.uk/tools/google_toolbar_buttons.shtml
 
 
  There are also some RSS feeds for news headlines, sport headlines and
 football headlines - with some rugby-flavoured stuff to come to tie-in with
 the upcoming world cup.
 
  http://www.chipwrapper.co.uk/tools/rss_feeds.shtml
 
 
 
  There's also a Headline Buzz feature. It uses a longer Yahoo! Pipe which
 takes ten headlines for each source -
 http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=QKDz_ihT3BGSheQho_NLYQ_render=rss
  - and then analyses the most popular words.
 
 
  The top 7 words (at the moment) appear on the Chipwrapper homepage as
 the Headline Buzz links, but there is also a headline buzz RSS feed.
  This has all of the words (minus stop words like 'the', 'of' etc) that
 appear more than 3 times in the set of headlines in popularity order. It
 refreshes every hour.
 
  http://feeds.feedburner.com/chipwrapper-buzz
 
 
  There's a page on the site about making DIY stuff, with links to all the
 feeds and the original Yahoo! Pipes I've used to mash-up the newspaper
 content in one place.
 
  http://www.chipwrapper.co.uk/tools/make_stuff.shtml
 
 
 
 
  So far, apart from the cost of registering the domain and my own time,
 I've done everything using free (as in didn't cost me money) tools and free
 (as in I've republished it but am not quite sure how The Sun's lawyers are
 going to take it) content.
 
  There's lots of things that I've thought of, but don't have the ability
 and/or time to do or learn about - like mash-ups with maps, tracking
 headline changes over time, email alerts on topics - which maybe some of you
 guys and gals might want to play with?
 
  Of course, any feedback on what is there already is very welcome on or
 off-list - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - plus does anyone know of a really
 good ready-to-download text file of 'stop' words, because at the moment I'm
 having to build it up by hand?
 
  I'm going to be in London for most of September and October with my BBC
 hat back on for a bit, so hopefully I might see/meet some of you at
 something suitably geeky during the course of that.
 
  all the best,
  martin
 
 
 
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Re: [backstage] Introducing Chipwrapper search for UK newspapers

2007-08-31 Thread Martin Belam
One of the problems I had with the datestamps is that certain
newspapers CMS systems date all of their entries to being published on
January 1st 1971 or some such arbitrary figure - but possibly I can do
some more work on the Pipes.

m




On 31/08/2007, Mario Menti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Martin,

 this is cool, and I was immediately thinking of feeding the headlines to
 twitter using twitterfeed. However, some of the feeds, e.g.
 http://feeds.feedburner.com/chipwrapper (the chipwrapper uk
 newspaper headlines) don't seem to contain any date stamps, so won't work
 with twitterfeed which needs the time stamps to know if an item is new
 and/or has been posted previously.

 Any chance you could add this?

 Cheers,
 Mario.


 On 8/30/07, Martin Belam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi all, I wanted to introduce to the list a site I've been working on,
  and invite you to have a play with the feeds being produced, and maybe
  help make some new tools for it.
 
  Called Chipwrapper, it is intended to be a hub for searching purely UK
  newspapers and UK news sources.
 
  http://www.chipwrapper.co.uk
 
  OK, I know, I know, the Chipwrapper metaphor doesn't work once you add
  TV news. Originally it was strictly newspapers only, but it just
  seemed weird to be searching UK news and not see links from the BBC,
  ITN and Sky.
 
  The homepage is a headline aggregator and a Google Custom Search
  Engine which only brings back results from the major UK newspapers,
  plus the TV news giants.
 
  astonishingly long link which will break in your mail client
 
 
 http://www.google.com/custom?cx=003036505619348485408%3Aminejdg5pkecof=AH%3Aleft
 %3BALC%3A%2366%3BBGC%3A%23FF%3BCX%3AChipwrapper%3BDIV%3A%23BB%3BFORID%3A0%3BGALT%3A%23003300%3BGFNT%3A%2366%3BGIMP%3A%2366%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.chipwrapper.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fchipwrapper-logo-small.jpg
 %3BLC%3A%2366%3BLH%3A35%3BLP%3A1%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.chipwrapper.co.uk%3BT%3A%2333%3BVLC%3A%23002200%3Bq=BBC+backstage
 
  /astonishingly long link which will break in your mail client
 
  I plan to add regional and local newspapers to the results later in the
 year.
 
 
  There are Opensearch plugins and a custom Google Toolbar button for the
 service.
 
 
 http://www.chipwrapper.co.uk/tools/browser_search_plugins.shtml
 
 http://www.chipwrapper.co.uk/tools/google_toolbar_buttons.shtml
 
 
  There are also some RSS feeds for news headlines, sport headlines and
  football headlines - with some rugby-flavoured stuff to come to tie-in
  with the upcoming world cup.
 
  http://www.chipwrapper.co.uk/tools/rss_feeds.shtml
 
 
 
  There's also a Headline Buzz feature. It uses a longer Yahoo! Pipe
  which takes ten headlines for each source -
 
 http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=QKDz_ihT3BGSheQho_NLYQ_render=rss
  - and then analyses the most popular words.
 
 
  The top 7 words (at the moment) appear on the Chipwrapper homepage as
  the Headline Buzz links, but there is also a headline buzz RSS feed.
  This has all of the words (minus stop words like 'the', 'of' etc)
  that appear more than 3 times in the set of headlines in popularity
  order. It refreshes every hour.
 
  http://feeds.feedburner.com/chipwrapper-buzz
 
 
  There's a page on the site about making DIY stuff, with links to all
  the feeds and the original Yahoo! Pipes I've used to mash-up the
  newspaper content in one place.
 
  http://www.chipwrapper.co.uk/tools/make_stuff.shtml
 
 
 
 
  So far, apart from the cost of registering the domain and my own time,
  I've done everything using free (as in didn't cost me money) tools and
  free (as in I've republished it but am not quite sure how The Sun's
  lawyers are going to take it) content.
 
  There's lots of things that I've thought of, but don't have the
  ability and/or time to do or learn about - like mash-ups with maps,
  tracking headline changes over time, email alerts on topics - which
  maybe some of you guys and gals might want to play with?
 
  Of course, any feedback on what is there already is very welcome on or
  off-list - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - plus does anyone know of a
  really good ready-to-download text file of 'stop' words, because at
  the moment I'm having to build it up by hand?
 
  I'm going to be in London for most of September and October with my
  BBC hat back on for a bit, so hopefully I might see/meet some of you
  at something suitably geeky during the course of that.
 
  all the best,
  martin
 
 
 
 
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