clever - but i expect lawyers would be all over this like a rash ________________________________
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Brian Butterworth Sent: Mon 09/06/2008 6:22 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] Re: Is it OK for BT Vision to charge £3 per month for the iPlayer? How about this. If you offered a service that provided the BBC channels with 1/25th of a second delay, a BBC1+1/90000 then you could watch the channel without a TV license because the channel would not be 'live', which is the requirement for a TV Licence. Yes, guesswork.... 2008/6/9 Richard P Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'm sure that they will have.... it would be great to see a copy, perhaps it was overlooked that BT is more than just a UK centric business model. :-) I must say that the peace here may be broken by the following phrase ... "She stressed that the BBC would not be making any money from the new arrangement." Classic choice of words ..... BBC now giving content away, or was "profit" the preferred noun? Count me in for DVB-T via the net, and for Mac .... excellent news. RichE On 9 Jun 2008, at 18:10, Gavin Pearce wrote: Have BT / Virgin got a license from the BBC for it then? - Gav -----Original Message----- From: Darren Stephens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 June 2008 17:02 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] Re: Is it OK for BT Vision to charge £3 per month for the iPlayer? Apart from BT doing it under licence? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gavin Pearce Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:29 PM To: 'backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk' Subject: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] Re: Is it OK for BT Vision to charge £3 per month for the iPlayer? The way I read it was ... They are offering it as part of another service, so they're not charging for the BBC channels, you get those free, if you "buy" this other service. I might be wrong?? Still plenty of loop-holes here to setup a free "BBC+1" if a user subscribes to your "members only website" :-) Im just guessing here though lol Gavin Pearce | Junior Web Developer | TBS The Columbia Centre, Market Street, Bracknell, RG12 1JG, United Kingdom Direct: +44 (0) 1344 403488 | Office: +44 (0) 1344 306011 | Fax: +44 (0) 1344 427138 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Yahoo: pearce.gavin | Skype: tbs.gavin www.tbs.uk.com <http://www.tbs.uk.com/> <http://www.tbs.uk.com/> TBS is a trading name of Technology Services International Limited. Registered in England, company number 2079459. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 June 2008 15:41 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] RE: [backstage] RE: [backstage] Re: Is it OK for BT Vision to charge £3 per month for the iPlayer? If BT can, why can't you or anyone else? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 09 June 2008 15:31 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] RE: [backstage] Re: Is it OK for BT Vision to charge £3 per month for the iPlayer? It turns out it isn't the iPlayer but the "higher quality" DVB-T recording that BT offer as part of their package. Although as they have no claim to copyright over them, it a bit hard to understand how they can charge extra for them, for example I couldn't record BBC one off-air, make a +1 of it and then transmit it via satellite and charge a fee for it. Could I? Or could I? 2008/6/9 Darren Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I would suspect so, as they would likely claim that it is like any number of satellite channels bundled on sky, provided at zero cost, but only available as part of a package which includes other chargeable services. Marketing drones, don't you just love them... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:09 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Re: Is it OK for BT Vision to charge £3 per month for the iPlayer? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7439652.stm 2008/6/5 Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: According to http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/3580-catch-up-tv-on-bt-vision-no-longer-free.html "BT Vision now has a TV Replay Pack that costs £3 per month and covers the ... BBC iPlayer service." 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