Re: [backstage] US TV on iPlayer

2008-04-28 Thread Michael Sparks
On Monday 28 April 2008 15:16, Brian Butterworth wrote:
> That's why I said "Allegedly".
>
> Let's face it, copyright is heading toward the status of bunk, isn't it?

No idea. If it is, then all these open source licenses won't mean anything 
either will they? (cf gpl-violations.org) Let alone all sorts of things that 
would actually upset lots of (non-geek) people. (eg people's personal photos 
being used to promote commercial products they have no interest in/support 
for, *without* recourse.)

Personally, I'd be surprised if copyright has disappeared from the law books
even as soon as 10 years from now. Changed and reformed? Fair use introduced,
redefined? Copyright term lengthened/shortened? All possible. *Gone* from the
law books? Highly unlikely.

That would be very much a "be careful what you wish for" kinda of scenario
to me.


Michael.
(Obviously personal views, not my employers)
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Re: [backstage] US TV on iPlayer

2008-04-28 Thread Richard Lockwood
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
>
> 2008/4/28 Michael Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Brian Butterworth
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Why would you want to watch them on the iPlayer when you could have
> > > > downloaded them as torrents from the US a whole year before?
> >  Allegedly
> >
> > It may be considered "quaint", but some of us like to stay within the
> > law.
> >
> > Afterall, if I don't respect the copyrights of others, why should they
> > respect mine ? (cf open source software I release both at work and home)
>
>
> That's why I said "Allegedly".
>
> Let's face it, copyright is heading toward the status of bunk, isn't it?
>

Um.  No.  Much as a lot of people might like it to be, no, it isn't.

Cheers,

R.


Re: [backstage] US TV on iPlayer

2008-04-28 Thread Brian Butterworth
2008/4/28 Michael Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Brian Butterworth
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Why would you want to watch them on the iPlayer when you could have
> > > downloaded them as torrents from the US a whole year before?
>  Allegedly
>
> It may be considered "quaint", but some of us like to stay within the law.
>
> Afterall, if I don't respect the copyrights of others, why should they
> respect mine ? (cf open source software I release both at work and home)


That's why I said "Allegedly".

Let's face it, copyright is heading toward the status of bunk, isn't it?


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Re: [backstage] US TV on iPlayer

2008-04-28 Thread Michael Sparks
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Brian Butterworth
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Why would you want to watch them on the iPlayer when you could have
> > downloaded them as torrents from the US a whole year before?  Allegedly

It may be considered "quaint", but some of us like to stay within the law.

Afterall, if I don't respect the copyrights of others, why should they
respect mine ? (cf open source software I release both at work and home)


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RE: [backstage] US TV on iPlayer

2008-04-28 Thread Andrew Bowden
> Just wondering if there's a rule on which TV shows that have 
> been bought in from the US by the BBC (Heroes, Mad Men, 
> Damages) end up on iPlayer. Out of those 3, Mad Men is the 
> only one that is available. Is Mad Men a joint BBC production 
> or are rights to put external content on iPlayer negotiated 
> on a show-by-show basis?

They're negotiated on a show-by-show basis apparently.  

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Re: [backstage] US TV on iPlayer

2008-04-28 Thread Iain Wallace
Yes, that wasn't really my question though.

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Brian Butterworth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why would you want to watch them on the iPlayer when you could have
> downloaded them as torrents from the US a whole year before?  Allegedly.
>
> 2008/4/28 Iain Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just wondering if there's a rule on which TV shows that have been
> > bought in from the US by the BBC (Heroes, Mad Men, Damages) end up on
> > iPlayer. Out of those 3, Mad Men is the only one that is available. Is
> > Mad Men a joint BBC production or are rights to put external content
> > on iPlayer negotiated on a show-by-show basis?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Iain
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Re: [backstage] US TV on iPlayer

2008-04-27 Thread Brian Butterworth
Why would you want to watch them on the iPlayer when you could have
downloaded them as torrents from the US a whole year before?  Allegedly.

2008/4/28 Iain Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi,
>
> Just wondering if there's a rule on which TV shows that have been
> bought in from the US by the BBC (Heroes, Mad Men, Damages) end up on
> iPlayer. Out of those 3, Mad Men is the only one that is available. Is
> Mad Men a joint BBC production or are rights to put external content
> on iPlayer negotiated on a show-by-show basis?
>
> Cheers,
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[backstage] US TV on iPlayer

2008-04-27 Thread Iain Wallace
Hi,

Just wondering if there's a rule on which TV shows that have been
bought in from the US by the BBC (Heroes, Mad Men, Damages) end up on
iPlayer. Out of those 3, Mad Men is the only one that is available. Is
Mad Men a joint BBC production or are rights to put external content
on iPlayer negotiated on a show-by-show basis?

Cheers,
Iain
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