Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers - I told you so
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/feb/26/apple.apple Apple is rumoured to have delayed the launch of the software tools that will help third party developers produce independent applications for the iPhone and iPod Touch. The Californian technology giant said last October that the software developer's kit or SDK would be ready by the end of the month but bloggers in the US claim that it has been delayed while more work is carried out. On 18/10/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? Steve Jobs gives a reasonable explanation in his announcement - that they want to implement a robust security model for third-party apps, something they don't need for internal development. Which suggests that the OS is rubbish, doesn't it? http://www.apple.com/startpage/ S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
Long time coming but: Apple opens up iPhone to app developers http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/17/iphone_sdk/ The iPhone and iTouch are to get a Software Developers Kit in February next year, allowing developers to create proper native applications for the platform and allowing it to properly compete with other smart phones, Steve Jobs announced on the company's website today.(Wed)... Phil On 18 Oct 2007, at 12:41, Ian Forrester wrote: You should do, Windows media player can be embedded and played on Windows mobile 5 6 devices no problem. Plus you all know the streaming urls and screen sizes of most windows mobile devices. I would use it for sure. Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 18 October 2007 11:21 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I was thinking of doing something similar for Windows Media Player.. On 18/10/2007, Simon Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ -- note: requires Safari to view, or an iphone/touch obviously! S From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Deutsch Sent: 17 October 2007 17:36 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I'd say that Apple have a good track record of releasing things, generally when they say they will. The only major product I can recall not seeing the light of day was Copland, over 10 years ago. - martin On 10/17/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/10/2007, Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/ Native third party applications on the iPhone (and iPod touch) will be enabled via an SDK as of February 2008. There's a name for that .. vapourware - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? It seems to me this is a way of deflecting criticism (and possibly regulation) from the device? On 18/10/2007, hayfielddigitalparish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Long time coming but: Apple opens up iPhone to app developers* http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/17/iphone_sdk/** The iPhone and iTouch are to get a Software Developers Kit in February next year, allowing developers to create proper native applications for the platform and allowing it to properly compete with other smart phones, Steve Jobs announced on the company's website today.(*Wed*)... * * Phil * * On 18 Oct 2007, at 12:41, Ian Forrester wrote: You should do, Windows media player can be embedded and played on Windows mobile 5 6 devices no problem. Plus you all know the streaming urls and screen sizes of most windows mobile devices. I would use it for sure. Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 18 October 2007 11:21 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I was thinking of doing something similar for Windows Media Player.. On 18/10/2007, Simon Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ -- note: requires Safari to view, or an iphone/touch obviously! S -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Martin Deutsch *Sent:* 17 October 2007 17:36 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I'd say that Apple have a good track record of releasing things, generally when they say they will. The only major product I can recall not seeing the light of day was Coplandhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copland_%2528operating_system%2529, over 10 years ago. - martin On 10/17/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/10/2007, Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/ Native third party applications on the iPhone (and iPod touch) will be enabled via an SDK as of February 2008. There's a name for that .. vapourware - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? Steve Jobs gives a reasonable explanation in his announcement - that they want to implement a robust security model for third-party apps, something they don't need for internal development. http://www.apple.com/startpage/ S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
On 18/10/2007, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? Steve Jobs gives a reasonable explanation in his announcement - that they want to implement a robust security model for third-party apps, something they don't need for internal development. Which suggests that the OS is rubbish, doesn't it? http://www.apple.com/startpage/ S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
Not really. Few internal trusted developers vs hoards of untrusted nefarious hackers - you're going to need different tools. J On 18/10/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? Steve Jobs gives a reasonable explanation in his announcement - that they want to implement a robust security model for third-party apps, something they don't need for internal development. Which suggests that the OS is rubbish, doesn't it? http://www.apple.com/startpage/ S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Jason Cartwright Web Specialist, EMEA Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44(0)2070313161
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
Steve Jolly wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? Steve Jobs gives a reasonable explanation in his announcement - that they want to implement a robust security model for third-party apps, something they don't need for internal development. http://www.apple.com/startpage/ And as I can attest to, having recently hacked my iPod touch, the security model that's in place right now is not sufficient. And anyway, classes and methods do not a full API make. Nor is an API alone the full SDK toolchain that is needed (and, now, promised). adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
Brian you¹re in a very happy mood these last couple of days! Think of nice things like kittens and DRM free TV :-) m On 18/10/07 15:23, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? Steve Jobs gives a reasonable explanation in his announcement - that they want to implement a robust security model for third-party apps, something they don't need for internal development. Which suggests that the OS is rubbish, doesn't it? http://www.apple.com/startpage/ S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
Yeah, because perfect code is possible - and there is never a version 2.0 of any product. J On 18/10/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really. Few internal trusted developers vs hoards of untrusted nefarious hackers - you're going to need different tools. I thought that Apple's OS was supposed to be invunerable and incorruptible...? J On 18/10/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? Steve Jobs gives a reasonable explanation in his announcement - that they want to implement a robust security model for third-party apps, something they don't need for internal development. Which suggests that the OS is rubbish, doesn't it? http://www.apple.com/startpage/ S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Jason Cartwright Web Specialist, EMEA Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44(0)2070313161 -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Jason Cartwright Web Specialist, EMEA Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44(0)2070313161
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 16:41 +0100, Jason Cartwright wrote: Yeah, because perfect code is possible - and there is never a version 2.0 of any product. TeX was last updated in 2002 (although it is now at version 3.141592). Should you find a bug you will be handsomely rewarded with Donald Knuth's autograph (on a cheque that you will most likely frame [1]). - Richard [1] http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/abcde.html -- Richard Smedley, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Director, www.M6-IT.org M6-IT CIC+44 (0)779 456 07 14 Sustainable Third Sector IT solutions. PRINCE2[TM] Project Management Web services * Back-ups * Support * Training Certification * E-Mail M6-IT is a Community Interest Company, limited by guarantee. Registered in England Wales, Registration No: 6040154 11 St Marks Road, Stourbridge, West Midlands, DY9 7DT Northern Office: 4, Hollins Green, Bradwall, Cheshire, CW10 0LA. Welsh office/Swyddfa Gogledd Cymru: e-mail / e-bost - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Southern Office: Bristolcontact [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
