Re: [backstage] web jobs to go?

2010-03-02 Thread Jim Tonge
On 26 Feb 2010, at 10:58, Mo McRoberts wrote:

 I'm tempted to offer a prize to the first person who can accurately
 determine what web pages are to be halved ACTUALLY means.

It means I need to find a new job next year.

Where do I claim my prize?

Jim



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Re: [backstage] web jobs to go?

2010-03-02 Thread Mo McRoberts

On 2-Mar-2010, at 16:29, Jim Tonge wrote:

 On 26 Feb 2010, at 10:58, Mo McRoberts wrote:
 
 I'm tempted to offer a prize to the first person who can accurately
 determine what web pages are to be halved ACTUALLY means.
 
 It means I need to find a new job next year.

Being pedantic, I wasn’t offering the prize for the “25% of staff to go” bit of 
it…

In all seriousness, my condolences, though.

 Where do I claim my prize?

I didn’t even specify what the prize *was* ;)

M.


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[backstage] web jobs to go?

2010-02-26 Thread Jonathan Chetwynd

web jobs to go?

according to the front page of today's Times:
The corporation’s web pages are to be halved, backed by a 25 per cent  
cut in staff numbers.

http://bit.ly/webjobstogo

~:


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Re: [backstage] web jobs to go?

2010-02-26 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:14, Jonathan Chetwynd
j.chetw...@btinternet.com wrote:

 The corporation’s web pages are to be halved

I'm tempted to offer a prize to the first person who can accurately
determine what web pages are to be halved ACTUALLY means.

My off-the-cuff thoughts on it last night:

http://nevali.net/post/412092568/bbc-signals-an-end-to-an-era-of-expansion

M.

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Re: [backstage] web jobs to go?

2010-02-26 Thread Gavin Johnson
On 26/02/2010 10:58, Mo McRoberts m...@nevali.net wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:14, Jonathan Chetwynd
 j.chetw...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 The corporation¹s web pages are to be halved
 
 I'm tempted to offer a prize to the first person who can accurately
 determine what web pages are to be halved ACTUALLY means.
 
 My off-the-cuff thoughts on it last night:
 
 http://nevali.net/post/412092568/bbc-signals-an-end-to-an-era-of-expansion

That's a good post, Mo and I'm sure many here appreciate it.

The bit that worries me is .. a pledge not ever to produce services at a
'more local' level than is currently the case.

because

(a) 'not ever' seems a bit greedy, particularly as
(b) I can't see there has been much interest in local by commercial media

My personal opinion of course.

Gavin


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Re: [backstage] web jobs to go?

2010-02-26 Thread Mo McRoberts
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 14:28, Gavin Johnson gavin.john...@bbc.co.uk wrote:

 The bit that worries me is .. a pledge not ever to produce services at a
 'more local' level than is currently the case.

 because

 (a) 'not ever' seems a bit greedy, particularly as
 (b) I can't see there has been much interest in local by commercial media

this goes back to the old 'will a commercial replacement fill the
gap?' argument, and I did allude to it to an extent in that post: my
guess is 'no, it won't', and I don't think much of that's the BBC's
fault, really. the marketplace is changing, and the commercial
environment is also changing. localised content is a very different
game to ten - or even five - years ago. given that, I'd err more
towards the BBC providing such services so that *somebody* will, even
if that's under a relatively tight remit so that feature-creep doesn't
have a negative effect upon commercial services in related areas.

M.
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Re: [backstage] web jobs to go?

2010-02-26 Thread Tim Dobson

Mo McRoberts wrote:

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 14:28, Gavin Johnson gavin.john...@bbc.co.uk wrote:


The bit that worries me is .. a pledge not ever to produce services at a
'more local' level than is currently the case.

because

(a) 'not ever' seems a bit greedy, particularly as
(b) I can't see there has been much interest in local by commercial media


this goes back to the old 'will a commercial replacement fill the
gap?' argument, and I did allude to it to an extent in that post: my
guess is 'no, it won't', and I don't think much of that's the BBC's
fault, really. the marketplace is changing, and the commercial
environment is also changing. localised content is a very different
game to ten - or even five - years ago. given that, I'd err more
towards the BBC providing such services so that *somebody* will, even
if that's under a relatively tight remit so that feature-creep doesn't
have a negative effect upon commercial services in related areas.


If Radio licences from Ofcom weren't so extortionate then we might see 
more community stations providing local content.


The US has so many non-profit radio stations that it is hard to see why 
it is worth making permanent broadcast licences such commercial 
challenge to get.


I mean WBAI New York[1] is probably one of the best non-profit stations 
out there but there are literally droves of them. Why we don't seem to 
want the UK to have this is beyond me... :-/


Cheers,

Tim

[1] well worth checking out: http://www.wbai.org/
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