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On 2/27/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fact you deliberately linked to a torrent site - thus removing the chance of the oscar winners to earn money from their films Well done, Dave. Don't you owe me a drink? ;) -- http://james.cridland.net/
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On 2/23/07, Sebastian Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Michael said] you're not a for-profit entity and you're screwing it up for everyone else. He then referenced the recently-announced CBBCWorld: you just launched some stupid kids social network, well you didn't actually launch anything, you just announced it with some screenshots. Apparently CBBCWorld has already disrupted 4-5 startups who will not now receive VC funding. Except CBBCWorld isn't a social network. It's a single-player 3D game. Oops. Well, ignoring the detail and getting on to the charge he makes: ITN and The Guardian would certainly claim that the BBC disrupts the online news marketplace. The BBC's childrens stuff clearly disrupts the childens' market. Similarly, it's certainly true that there are many things the BBC appears to do that harms commercial radio, since it doesn't have to follow the same rules, nor the same funding structure. I'd love to know how much money my employer was getting in next year: the BBC knows until 2012, which is an enviable position to be in. There is some truth in what Arrington says. But this probably isn't the place to have that discussion. However, I do object to people opining without knowledge. On Cranky Geeks this week, one of the studio guests said how splendid oscartorrents.com was, because by running this, the Oscars have finally shown what the power of the internet can do. Sheesh. Hello?! -- http://james.cridland.net/
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HI James! On 26/02/07, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Cranky Geeks this week, one of the studio guests said how splendid oscartorrents.com was, The fact you deliberately linked to a torrent site - thus removing the chance of the oscar winners to earn money from their films, and/or effectively market them as physical products, is very telling. I am deeply sorry that you don't want people to earn money from creative work; and disappointed that you promote the idea that content-creators need to control the distribution of their content, yet casually pull stunts like this. You've made your point very clearly on this list a number of times. It's now turning from charmingly naive discussion to something rather more hypocritical. ;-) -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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At 12:58 + 23/2/07, Ian Forrester wrote: Thanks for that Sebastian, I was going to try and make a transcript over the weekend, but no real need now. Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || cubicgarden.com || geekdinner.co.uk I'll make one and release under a Creative Commons Licence. Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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There is a reason why I left in the part before Mike Arrington's outburst. Chris Messina quietly talks about define your success - and Mike ask something like what other measure of success is there besides how much money it makes? Enough said really... Oh I also have a great picture of Mike Bucher and Mike Arrington next to each other on Flickr. :) Raj Anand wrote: I was in the room when Mike Arrington said it. Through out the conference he has been really arrogant. I'm disappointed that someone so well recognised in the Web industry has nothing good to say about BBC. He is not really popular in the UK after TCUK and now he has made it worst for himself ! Raj - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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The panel discussion was on the subject of measuring success (there's an almost inaudible quote from one of the panel members about success meaning that people like your stuff), when Michael interrupted with his bullshit outburst. He said the BBC should be dissolved (What!?!?) because of the hundreds of people the BBC puts in jail for not paying their licence fee. He asked why there would be no 3rd series of The Office, and answered his own question with because you're not a for-profit entity and you're screwing it up for everyone else. He then referenced the recently-announced CBBCWorld: you just launched some stupid kids social network, well you didn't actually launch anything, you just announced it with some screenshots. Apparently CBBCWorld has already disrupted 4-5 startups who will not now receive VC funding. Except CBBCWorld isn't a social network. It's a single-player 3D game. Oops. Seb. Sebastian Potter Technical Project Manager, BBC Children's Interactive -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alistair Sent: 22 February 2007 23:27 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington He says you disrupted like 4 to 5 startups that noone is going to invest in now. For me that kind of says it all. The BBC is there to innovate not 'move out of the way'. An idea has to test it's mettle against the competition or it's doomed in the long term. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Thanks for that Sebastian, I was going to try and make a transcript over the weekend, but no real need now. Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || cubicgarden.com || geekdinner.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Potter Sent: 23 February 2007 12:28 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington The panel discussion was on the subject of measuring success (there's an almost inaudible quote from one of the panel members about success meaning that people like your stuff), when Michael interrupted with his bullshit outburst. He said the BBC should be dissolved (What!?!?) because of the hundreds of people the BBC puts in jail for not paying their licence fee. He asked why there would be no 3rd series of The Office, and answered his own question with because you're not a for-profit entity and you're screwing it up for everyone else. He then referenced the recently-announced CBBCWorld: you just launched some stupid kids social network, well you didn't actually launch anything, you just announced it with some screenshots. Apparently CBBCWorld has already disrupted 4-5 startups who will not now receive VC funding. Except CBBCWorld isn't a social network. It's a single-player 3D game. Oops. Seb. Sebastian Potter Technical Project Manager, BBC Children's Interactive -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alistair Sent: 22 February 2007 23:27 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington He says you disrupted like 4 to 5 startups that noone is going to invest in now. For me that kind of says it all. The BBC is there to innovate not 'move out of the way'. An idea has to test it's mettle against the competition or it's doomed in the long term. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Elsewhere Arrington describes 'the Office' as the only BBC show worth watching, what about Dads Army and Porridge, Only Fools and Horses, Fawlty Towers? Admittedly mostly from the seventies and eighties. He raises perhaps inadvertantly the old point about why we haven't done many good 'Situation Comedies recently and when we do why they only run for a fairly limited series. You can't imagine Friends or Cheers or MASH closing after two series. Arrington may get some things wrong but Techcrunch is invaluable Richard
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Richard Hyett wrote: He raises perhaps inadvertantly the old point about why we haven't done many good 'Situation Comedies recently and when we do why they only run for a fairly limited series. You can't imagine Friends or Cheers or MASH closing after two series. But Two series and out is a very UK way of working. Life on Mars being a recent example. -- From the North, this is Kirk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Yes - you could charactarise the US way of working as a way of maximising ad revenue from a the diminishing halo of a brand, regardless of whether creatively the project is still vigorous. Or, in plainer language, flogging a dead horse. Not to say there aren't long runs of UK stuff. My Family, for example - a consistently excellent sitcom. Two Pints, hugely popular, long running, long series. But, you know, US tech bloggers, experts in UK comedy TV commissioning patterns, aren't they? Richard Hyett wrote: He raises perhaps inadvertantly the old point about why we haven't done many good 'Situation Comedies recently and when we do why they only run for a fairly limited series. You can't imagine Friends or Cheers or MASH closing after two series. But Two series and out is a very UK way of working. Life on Mars being a recent example. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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And it does stop the BBC getting into Oh God Series 19 of Friends syndrome Actually I think there have been some very good sitcoms in recent years - Early Doors, Royale Family and off BBC Spaced and Black Books - but I think this is one of those areas where things are not held as a 'classic' until years after - for example Surprisingly, or maybe not, as sometimes a new series can take some time to work its way into the hearts of the British public, none of the first series [of Fawlty Towers] in 1975 made an impact in its respective week's viewing figures. One newspaper sniped: Long John, Short On Jokes — The Daily Mirror http://www.fawltysite.net/awards.htm On 23/02/07, Kirk Northrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Hyett wrote: He raises perhaps inadvertantly the old point about why we haven't done many good 'Situation Comedies recently and when we do why they only run for a fairly limited series. You can't imagine Friends or Cheers or MASH closing after two series. But Two series and out is a very UK way of working. Life on Mars being a recent example. -- From the North, this is Kirk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Martin Belam - http://www.currybet.net - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Richard Hyett wrote: He raises perhaps inadvertantly the old point about why we haven't done many good 'Situation Comedies recently and when we do why they only run for a fairly limited series. You can't imagine Friends or Cheers or MASH closing after two series. But Two series and out is a very UK way of working. Life on Mars being a recent example. Unlike, say, top US programme Arrested Development. Which was three series then out. How dare Fox screw up everything for the Arrested Development viewers like that! It's an outrage! GARGH! ;) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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On 23/2/07 15:02, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Hyett wrote: He raises perhaps inadvertantly the old point about why we haven't done many good 'Situation Comedies recently and when we do why they only run for a fairly limited series. You can't imagine Friends or Cheers or MASH closing after two series. But Two series and out is a very UK way of working. Life on Mars being a recent example. Unlike, say, top US programme Arrested Development. Which was three series then out. How dare Fox screw up everything for the Arrested Development viewers like that! It's an outrage! GARGH! ;) In any case - was this really in the BBC's control - wasn't it Ricky Gervais who didn't want to do another series ? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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I was in the room when Mike Arrington said it. Through out the conference he has been really arrogant. I'm disappointed that someone so well recognised in the Web industry has nothing good to say about BBC. He is not really popular in the UK after TCUK and now he has made it worst for himself ! Raj On 2/23/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Hyett wrote: He raises perhaps inadvertantly the old point about why we haven't done many good 'Situation Comedies recently and when we do why they only run for a fairly limited series. You can't imagine Friends or Cheers or MASH closing after two series. But Two series and out is a very UK way of working. Life on Mars being a recent example. Unlike, say, top US programme Arrested Development. Which was three series then out. How dare Fox screw up everything for the Arrested Development viewers like that! It's an outrage! GARGH! ;) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Raj Anand Technical Director kwiqq.com raj.anand at kwiqq.com 01273 704787 / 07876 274773 Kwiqq.com Sussex Innovation Centre University of Sussex Brighton East Sussex BN1 9SB United Kingdom kwiqq.com is part of Anderstand Ltd.
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In any case - was this really in the BBC's control - wasn't it Ricky Gervais who didn't want to do another series ? It was indeed. It was also the creator of Arrested Development's decision to stop after series 3 - I just suddenly realised that that might be a rather obscure reference! - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 03:02:21PM -, Andrew Bowden wrote: Richard Hyett wrote: He raises perhaps inadvertantly the old point about why we haven't done many good 'Situation Comedies recently and when we do why they only run for a fairly limited series. You can't imagine Friends or Cheers or MASH closing after two series. But Two series and out is a very UK way of working. Life on Mars being a recent example. Unlike, say, top US programme Arrested Development. Which was three series then out. How dare Fox screw up everything for the Arrested Development viewers like that! It's an outrage! GARGH! It is often worse than that. Look at Firefly - shown out of order and pulled from air before they had shown all the episodes of that series (11 out of 14 broadcast). That was Fox, again. That is something I can hardly imagine the BBC (or for that matter commercial TV in Britain) doing to a new drama series they were showing. Looking at say _Life On Mars_, a critical and popular success, I cannot see the BBC phoning up Kudos and saying thanks but no more please. If the writers feel they have told the story they want to tell why drag things out for a few more years. I can think of shows that carried on milking the cow long after it had died (both US and British) and I don't think that is something that I want to see as a matter of course. I think that most of the problem comes down to a massive disconnect in culture. We don't do stuff like the Americans. The Americans don't do stuff like us. This isn't bad or wrong - just different. Both cultures have their advantages, both TV cultures produce their hit programmes. It is perhaps unfortunate that Arrington commented so strongly without knowing too much about the cultural values in British broadcasting and in particular the BBC. -- Andy Leighton = [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Lord is my shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials - Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Andy Leighton wrote: It is often worse than that. Look at Firefly - shown out of order and pulled from air before they had shown all the episodes of that series (11 out of 14 broadcast). That was Fox, again. That is something I can hardly imagine the BBC (or for that matter commercial TV in Britain) doing to a new drama series they were showing. Maybe not most types of drama, but sci fi dramas occasionally get badly treated in the UK as well (like how Channel 4 put the final season of Babylon 5 on in the small hours of the morning, didn't bother to tell any one that it was even on, and kept changing the day and time it was on). If Firefly was a straight western instead of a western in space then Fox might have treated it better. Scot - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Re: Arrington OMFG!! On 2/22/07, Mr I Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, The video form the 1st Backstage podcast is now up - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/bbc_backstage_p_1.html and you might want to check out the comments from Mike TechCrunch Arrington on the BBC - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/michael_arringt.html Cheers, Ian - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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btw: I just added Ian's blip.tv video feed to our podcast.com video folder http://podcast.com/show/6951 I will attempt to clean up the audio from last night's geekdinner event and get that online soon too. (Also to rip out the audio of Mike saying his piece and post to my blog) ;) On 2/22/07, blogHUD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Arrington OMFG!! On 2/22/07, Mr I Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, The video form the 1st Backstage podcast is now up - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/bbc_backstage_p_1.html and you might want to check out the comments from Mike TechCrunch Arrington on the BBC - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/michael_arringt.html Cheers, Ian - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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If that's you in the background going WHAT?!, I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments. The whole point of the BBC, at least to me, is that as it's insulated to an extent from wider market forces, that is what gives it the freedom to innovate to a greater extent and spend more on RD, to bring those innovations to market and help develop the standards more than many other broadcasters. The public service remit is unique in that it's looking out for the consumer, not just the broadcaster, and if he doesn't see that (or he's been put off by the meagre output of BBC America, which is a separate branch of the Beeb anyway, right?) then he's a bit of an idiot. And here's me thinking he actually had a bit of nouse when it comes to future tech... Arrington should stick to reporting on indie Web 2.0 startups and leave criticism or appraisal of the BBC and its output to people who get a use from it - us crazy embracers know a good thing when we see it (and I for one gladly pay that license fee!) I absolutely _LOVE_ that pregnant pause after your man explains about the Public Value Test. Arrington didn't see that one coming. :D -Original Message- From: Mr I Forrester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 February 2007 15:44 To: BBC Backstage Subject: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington Hi All, The video form the 1st Backstage podcast is now up - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/bbc_backstage _p_1.html and you might want to check out the comments from Mike TechCrunch Arrington on the BBC - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/michael_arringt.html Cheers, Ian - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Oh no!!! By the time the mic was on and everyone was looking at me I had no idea what I was saying! Arrrgghhh... Daniel Morris | Web Developer BBC Entertainment : Manchester : New Media int. 01 44217 ext. 0161 244 4217 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of blogHUD Sent: 22 February 2007 17:42 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington btw: I just added Ian's blip.tv video feed to our podcast.com video folder http://podcast.com/show/6951 I will attempt to clean up the audio from last night's geekdinner event and get that online soon too. (Also to rip out the audio of Mike saying his piece and post to my blog) ;) On 2/22/07, blogHUD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Arrington OMFG!! On 2/22/07, Mr I Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, The video form the 1st Backstage podcast is now up - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/bbc_backstage_p_1.html and you might want to check out the comments from Mike TechCrunch Arrington on the BBC - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/michael_arringt.html Cheers, Ian - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Mr I Forrester wrote: and you might want to check out the comments from Mike TechCrunch Arrington on the BBC - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/02/michael_arringt.html Is there some more background to what he said? The BBC should be dissolved is a fairly strong statement, and I would have thought there'd be at least a few words either before or after as to why the BBC should be dissolved (and I'd rather not have to trudge through a a video to find it). - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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blogHUD wrote: I have posted the audio here: http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/ http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/ download! share! mock! taunt! ;) Maybe I'm going deaf, but the audio isn't audible - I've got my speakers turned up full blast, and while there is enough sound to know that there is something there, it's still not audible. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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i tried processing the audio through 'Levelator' (an audio normalisation app) as the original panel audio was waaay quieter than Ian spitting out his coffee ;) I could quite hear the context before he said if, in the video, but he did say 'this is bullsh*t' before saying it. hopefully some kind of 'official' recording of this event will surface at some stage. ;) On 2/22/07, Scot McSweeney-Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: blogHUD wrote: I have posted the audio here: http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/ http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/ download! share! mock! taunt! ;) Maybe I'm going deaf, but the audio isn't audible - I've got my speakers turned up full blast, and while there is enough sound to know that there is something there, it's still not audible. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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could*nt* hear... - sorry On 2/22/07, blogHUD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i tried processing the audio through 'Levelator' (an audio normalisation app) as the original panel audio was waaay quieter than Ian spitting out his coffee ;) I could quite hear the context before he said if, in the video, but he did say 'this is bullsh*t' before saying it. hopefully some kind of 'official' recording of this event will surface at some stage. ;) On 2/22/07, Scot McSweeney-Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: blogHUD wrote: I have posted the audio here: http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/ http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/ download! share! mock! taunt! ;) Maybe I'm going deaf, but the audio isn't audible - I've got my speakers turned up full blast, and while there is enough sound to know that there is something there, it's still not audible. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: Maybe I'm going deaf, but the audio isn't audible - I've got my speakers turned up full blast, and while there is enough sound to know that there is something there, it's still not audible. I take it back (partially). I swapped speakers and I got to at least hear a bit of it - but I still had problems with parts of it being unitelligable. I don't suppose there's a transcript anywhere? - - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington
Here's the short clip of that video with just Michael's comments, and the reaction - it's about 30 seconds in... Ian's coffee doesn't make an appearance but his rather loud WHAT!?... does :-) http://blip.tv/file/154710/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ian Forrester Sent: Thu 2/22/2007 8:09 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington I remember looking around and there was a camera man but he kept moving around with his huge betacam. So I expect there was no official recording because of the shifting around. There was also no real powerful amplification of voices besides the little tinny speakers in the desks. However there were at least 70 people in that large room, and trust me bullsh*t was used. I have the whole video if you want to watch it for context is here (still waiting for Blip to transcode it to Flash) - http://blip.tv/file/154369/ I'm surprised no one else has blogged it, Suw must have missed the discussion which took place at lunchtime - http://strange.corante.com/ Oh well, another reason to start a UK Valleywag? Hummm, shall I stick that in the ideas section? Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || cubicgarden.com || geekdinner.co.uk From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of blogHUD Sent: 22 February 2007 19:01 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] A couple of things including Arrington could*nt* hear... - sorry On 2/22/07, blogHUD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i tried processing the audio through 'Levelator' (an audio normalisation app) as the original panel audio was waaay quieter than Ian spitting out his coffee ;) I could quite hear the context before he said if, in the video, but he did say 'this is bullsh*t' before saying it. hopefully some kind of 'official' recording of this event will surface at some stage. ;) On 2/22/07, Scot McSweeney-Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: blogHUD wrote: I have posted the audio here: http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/ http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/ http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/ http://kosso.wordpress.com/2007/02/22/techcrunchs-mike-arrington-calls-for-the-end-of-the-bbc/ download! share! mock! taunt! ;) Maybe I'm going deaf, but the audio isn't audible - I've got my speakers turned up full blast, and while there is enough sound to know that there is something there, it's still not audible. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
