RE: [backstage] Traffic Feed Android App Idea

2010-02-25 Thread Ian Forrester
Yes its pretty much what everyone has said already.
 
Once your finished or get to release, just ping me or the backstage list a 
email and I'll write up a blog post if its a good prototype
 
Cheers

Secret[] Private[] Public[x]

Ian Forrester
Senior Backstage Producer

BBC R&D North Lab,
1st Floor Office, OB Base,
New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road,
Manchester, M60 1SJ 

 




From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk 
[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of John O'Donovan
Sent: 17 February 2010 15:26
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
        Subject: RE: [backstage] Traffic Feed Android App Idea


Backstage prototypes and applications have to attribute their use of 
data as "supported by backstage.bbc.co.uk" as part of the agreement, and they 
are subject to the same rules about personal, non-commercial use. 
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/terms_of_use.html 
<http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/terms_of_use.html> 
 
Cheers,


  
John O'Donovan
Chief Technical Architect 

BBC Future Media & Technology (Journalism)
BC3 C1, Broadcast Centre, 201 Wood Lane, London 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/ 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/ 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/ 


On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:06 PM, mailto:adancy%2bbackst...@gmail.com> > wrote:


When I was developing iplayerconverter a couple of years ago I 
was basically told the following:
 
1. You must have the phrase "supported by backstage.bbc.co.uk" 
somewhere, which should link to the Backstage T&Cs page (not sure how that 
would apply for a mobile app - your idea of putting it on the about screen 
sounds sensible)
2. You can have generic ads (I use Google Adsense) so long as 
they aren't inappropriate (so no porn ads or suchlike) or too intrusive.
3. You can't make a significant profit from or charge for 
access to BBC content. So basically ads are for covering running costs and not 
making your fortune.
4. You can't use BBC logos or other branding (such as channel 
logos) without signing a separate branding agreement (unfortunately the 
branding agreement then specifically forbids you from running ads on the same 
page as BBC branding)
 
Not sure if this is still the case - time for the voice from on 
high to clarify the current licensing situation perhaps?
 
Andrew Dancy
www.iplayerconverter.co.uk
 


From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk 
[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Piggott
Sent: 17 February 2010 11:11
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: [backstage] Traffic Feed Android App Idea


Hi,
 
I am building an Android App to display BBC TPEG traffic and 
public transport data. The app will be free, but I want to put generic adverts 
at the bottom of the screen (provided by Admob). I will put an acknowledgement 
to BBC Backstage in my about screen. The Backstage website has alot of info 
about including feeds in websites, but not apps. I just want to make sure I am 
not breaking any TOC, by releasing the app to the Android market.
 
PS How do you submit prototypes that are apps not websites on 
the BBC backstage website ?
 
Regards M Piggott





RE: [backstage] Traffic Feed Android App Idea

2010-02-17 Thread John O'Donovan
Backstage prototypes and applications have to attribute their use of
data as "supported by backstage.bbc.co.uk" as part of the agreement, and
they are subject to the same rules about personal, non-commercial use.
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/terms_of_use.html
 
 
Cheers,


  
John O'Donovan
Chief Technical Architect 

BBC Future Media & Technology (Journalism)
BC3 C1, Broadcast Centre, 201 Wood Lane, London 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/ 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/ 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/ 


On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:06 PM, mailto:adancy%2bbackst...@gmail.com> > wrote:


When I was developing iplayerconverter a couple of years ago I
was basically told the following:
 
1. You must have the phrase "supported by backstage.bbc.co.uk"
somewhere, which should link to the Backstage T&Cs page (not sure how
that would apply for a mobile app - your idea of putting it on the about
screen sounds sensible)
2. You can have generic ads (I use Google Adsense) so long as
they aren't inappropriate (so no porn ads or suchlike) or too intrusive.
3. You can't make a significant profit from or charge for access
to BBC content. So basically ads are for covering running costs and not
making your fortune.
4. You can't use BBC logos or other branding (such as channel
logos) without signing a separate branding agreement (unfortunately the
branding agreement then specifically forbids you from running ads on the
same page as BBC branding)
 
Not sure if this is still the case - time for the voice from on
high to clarify the current licensing situation perhaps?
 
Andrew Dancy
www.iplayerconverter.co.uk
 


From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk
[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Piggott
Sent: 17 February 2010 11:11
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: [backstage] Traffic Feed Android App Idea


Hi,
 
I am building an Android App to display BBC TPEG traffic and
public transport data. The app will be free, but I want to put generic
adverts at the bottom of the screen (provided by Admob). I will put an
acknowledgement to BBC Backstage in my about screen. The Backstage
website has alot of info about including feeds in websites, but not
apps. I just want to make sure I am not breaking any TOC, by releasing
the app to the Android market.
 
PS How do you submit prototypes that are apps not websites on
the BBC backstage website ?
 
Regards M Piggott





Re: [backstage] Traffic Feed Android App Idea

2010-02-17 Thread Sam Mbale
I think it's best to work with the BBC on a non-commercial basis as a
developer. It's complicated!

Sam Mbale
Mpelembe Network
http://www.mpelembe.net

Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe



On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:06 PM,

> wrote:

>  When I was developing iplayerconverter a couple of years ago I was
> basically told the following:
>
> 1. You must have the phrase "supported by backstage.bbc.co.uk" somewhere,
> which should link to the Backstage T&Cs page (not sure how that would apply
> for a mobile app - your idea of putting it on the about screen sounds
> sensible)
> 2. You can have generic ads (I use Google Adsense) so long as they aren't
> inappropriate (so no porn ads or suchlike) or too intrusive.
> 3. You can't make a significant profit from or charge for access to BBC
> content. So basically ads are for covering running costs and not making your
> fortune.
> 4. You can't use BBC logos or other branding (such as channel logos)
> without signing a separate branding agreement (unfortunately the branding
> agreement then specifically forbids you from running ads on the same page as
> BBC branding)
>
> Not sure if this is still the case - time for the voice from on high to
> clarify the current licensing situation perhaps?
>
> Andrew Dancy
> www.iplayerconverter.co.uk
>
>  --
>  *From:* owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:
> owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mark Piggott
> *Sent:* 17 February 2010 11:11
> *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> *Subject:* [backstage] Traffic Feed Android App Idea
>
>  Hi,
>
> I am building an Android App to display BBC TPEG traffic and public
> transport data. The app will be free, but I want to put generic adverts at
> the bottom of the screen (provided by Admob). I will put an acknowledgement
> to BBC Backstage in my about screen. The Backstage website has alot of info
> about including feeds in websites, but not apps. I just want to make sure I
> am not breaking any TOC, by releasing the app to the Android market.
>
> PS How do you submit prototypes that are apps not websites on the BBC
> backstage website ?
>
> Regards M Piggott
>
>


RE: [backstage] Traffic Feed Android App Idea

2010-02-17 Thread adancy+backstage
When I was developing iplayerconverter a couple of years ago I was basically
told the following:
 
1. You must have the phrase "supported by backstage.bbc.co.uk" somewhere,
which should link to the Backstage T&Cs page (not sure how that would apply
for a mobile app - your idea of putting it on the about screen sounds
sensible)
2. You can have generic ads (I use Google Adsense) so long as they aren't
inappropriate (so no porn ads or suchlike) or too intrusive.
3. You can't make a significant profit from or charge for access to BBC
content. So basically ads are for covering running costs and not making your
fortune.
4. You can't use BBC logos or other branding (such as channel logos) without
signing a separate branding agreement (unfortunately the branding agreement
then specifically forbids you from running ads on the same page as BBC
branding)
 
Not sure if this is still the case - time for the voice from on high to
clarify the current licensing situation perhaps?
 
Andrew Dancy
www.iplayerconverter.co.uk
 
  _  

From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk
[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Piggott
Sent: 17 February 2010 11:11
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: [backstage] Traffic Feed Android App Idea


Hi,
 
I am building an Android App to display BBC TPEG traffic and public
transport data. The app will be free, but I want to put generic adverts at
the bottom of the screen (provided by Admob). I will put an acknowledgement
to BBC Backstage in my about screen. The Backstage website has alot of info
about including feeds in websites, but not apps. I just want to make sure I
am not breaking any TOC, by releasing the app to the Android market.
 
PS How do you submit prototypes that are apps not websites on the BBC
backstage website ?
 
Regards M Piggott