Re: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download
At 18:55 +0100 13/6/07, Andy wrote: On 13/06/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole point of home server is that you connect to it like a appliance over a http connection. So it should run with no display. I would personally go for SSH. It's designed for remote admining, http isn't. Though a HTTP interface would be good for the higher level stuff. Hmmm secure shell was designed for shell access. And cpanel/WHM runs over secure HTTP, and I guess many of us many have used cpanel/WHM? Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download
I've both accepted and done it for quite a few years now. Just makes sense. An old Xbox with XBMC on it makes a cracking media centre machine, and hell, I had so many computer bits lying around I just bunged together an old server and slapped WS2003 on it (OS provided gratis by my Uni!) I know many aren't quite as inclined as I am to have more than one computer in their house, never mind one which is running headless and has to be adminned via remote desktop, but with the advent of little gadgets like the Drobo from datarobotics.com (think simplified best-of-both-worlds NAS/RAID which you can just plug into any device that'll support USB Mass Storage - including that new Netgear with the USB port, giving you huge amounts of networked storage without another PC!) we're on the cusp of something very cool. Obviously MS are pushing people to do this, and I suppose Apple are as well (and they have some cool new innovations for dotmac tie-ins including intelligent, self-discovering filesharing across several WANs in the Finder). It just makes sense really, doesn't it? That new Asus router which has the integrated harddrive and can carry on bittorrenting whilst your PC is turned off, now I like that (wouldn't mind getting my mitts on a unit, too!) It's when those kinda bits of hardware come into the £100-£150 range when we'll see mass adoption, combined with n-spec wifi for HD streaming, and then it'll be all about networked media access. I applied for the WHS RC1 beta, not sure if I'll receive a key for it though - and I doubt I'd want to replace WS2003 with it on my server. It doesnt look tweakable enough. -Original Message- From: Ian Forrester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2007 14:31 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download From Engadget Microsoft has just announced a tasty banana for all you code monkeys out there, in the form of the first publicly available download (well, for non-beta testers at least) of the widely anticipated Windows Home Server operating system. Release Candidate 1, as this build is known, is said to offer a number of improvements over previous betas, and is the first version that participants in the Code2Fame Challenge can use to work on their entries. http://feeds.engadget.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadget/~3/124341635/ What I find interesting is the new focus on home servers. Are we finally started to accept that people will store tons of films, music and pictures on there local network and use something like the AppleTV, Xbox media centre or Xbox360/PS3 to stream stuff over the network? Just a quick thought... Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download
The whole point of home server is that you connect to it like a appliance over a http connection. So it should run with no display. Although when setting it up you do need a monitor :( What I like about home server is the automatic backup and one drive/many drives feature. Basically you can throw in 5 drives and they come up as one big drive. You can also RAID it but home server makes that really easy for you to setup. Its all a bit like one of these - http://www.drobo.com/ Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 13 June 2007 16:25 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download From the screens it looks like it has all the same innovations as Vista does - heavier reliance on graphics acceleration (my server's running with a PCI Voodoo 3 3000 in it... One of the last cards I ever bought with a fanless heatsink!) and it's only got a 1.5ghz Athlon in it. WS2003 runs nicely, it boots in an alright time considering the amount of services it's running and it's an interface I'm far more familiar with both in terms of general daily usage and administration. I bet it's a right pain getting to grips with WHS if you're used to the familiar layout of the 2000/XP design. Old dog, new tricks and all that. -Original Message- From: Ben Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2007 15:29 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download WHS is built ontop of Windows 2003 Small Business and you can remote desktop into it the same you would with a normal server. You then have the added support the backup built in. Just downloaded the RC, just need some harddrives now. On 13/06/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've both accepted and done it for quite a few years now. Just makes sense. An old Xbox with XBMC on it makes a cracking media centre machine, and hell, I had so many computer bits lying around I just bunged together an old server and slapped WS2003 on it (OS provided gratis by my Uni!) I know many aren't quite as inclined as I am to have more than one computer in their house, never mind one which is running headless and has to be adminned via remote desktop, but with the advent of little gadgets like the Drobo from datarobotics.com (think simplified best-of-both-worlds NAS/RAID which you can just plug into any device that'll support USB Mass Storage - including that new Netgear with the USB port, giving you huge amounts of networked storage without another PC!) we're on the cusp of something very cool. Obviously MS are pushing people to do this, and I suppose Apple are as well (and they have some cool new innovations for dotmac tie-ins including intelligent, self-discovering filesharing across several WANs in the Finder). It just makes sense really, doesn't it? That new Asus router which has the integrated harddrive and can carry on bittorrenting whilst your PC is turned off, now I like that (wouldn't mind getting my mitts on a unit, too!) It's when those kinda bits of hardware come into the £100-£150 range when we'll see mass adoption, combined with n-spec wifi for HD streaming, and then it'll be all about networked media access. I applied for the WHS RC1 beta, not sure if I'll receive a key for it though - and I doubt I'd want to replace WS2003 with it on my server. It doesn't look tweakable enough. -Original Message- From: Ian Forrester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2007 14:31 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download From Engadget Microsoft has just announced a tasty banana for all you code monkeys out there, in the form of the first publicly available download (well, for non-beta testers at least) of the widely anticipated Windows Home Server operating system. Release Candidate 1, as this build is known, is said to offer a number of improvements over previous betas, and is the first version that participants in the Code2Fame Challenge can use to work on their entries. http://feeds.engadget.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadget/~3/124341635/ What I find interesting is the new focus on home servers. Are we finally started to accept that people will store tons of films, music and pictures on there local network and use something like the AppleTV, Xbox media centre or Xbox360/PS3 to stream stuff over the network? Just a quick thought... Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer
Re: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download
On 13/06/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole point of home server is that you connect to it like a appliance over a http connection. So it should run with no display. I would personally go for SSH. It's designed for remote admining, http isn't. Though a HTTP interface would be good for the higher level stuff. Completely agree that it should not run with a monitor though. Although when setting it up you do need a monitor :( Can't you connect a serial cable between the server and a laptop/PC or something? I also remembering reading about a server system that could be installed over a network (you probably want to make sure your the only person with access to that network first), or maybe I just imagined that bit. You certainly should not need a powerful graphics card. Should be able to install a server from a text console anyway. Graphics card are for your Desktop. or those boxes you plug straight into the T.V. Andy -- SELECT * FROM remarks WHERE witty=1 LIMIT 1 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Windows Home Server RC1 available for download
For sure Ian, We already have our own network broadcasting/server units at home :--) Have had for three years or more. In my case. Mac G5 plus 30 inch screen as desktop, with a 23 inch as a TV or second screen. add bittorrent, or DVD, or iTunes plus iChat.. with a terrabyte of disk space, 14 days of music, etc...etc.. etc. On a wifi network running over 5Kms radius. `Within which are another 3 networked Macs, one of which is attached to a Sony HD TV, with wireless mouse and keyboard, in another houseand a PC in fact Backstage is a part of my true network. It is great. Add Protools, and a 1500 watt surround speaker system, with the ability to play it very loud outside, with sunshine, and life is even better :-) In and output, plus sharing is totally second nature at home here. RichE On 13 Jun 2007, at 14:30, Ian Forrester wrote: From Engadget Microsoft has just announced a tasty banana for all you code monkeys out there, in the form of the first publicly available download (well, for non-beta testers at least) of the widely anticipated Windows Home Server operating system. Release Candidate 1, as this build is known, is said to offer a number of improvements over previous betas, and is the first version that participants in the Code2Fame Challenge can use to work on their entries. http://feeds.engadget.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadget/~3/124341635/ What I find interesting is the new focus on home servers. Are we finally started to accept that people will store tons of films, music and pictures on there local network and use something like the AppleTV, Xbox media centre or Xbox360/PS3 to stream stuff over the network? Just a quick thought... Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
