Re: [backstage] Google Wave
Hi, still one left? if so, I'd go for a a try. Juergen On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Hi folks, I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like one. I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome. I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it. Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?
There is a complete list of links in WMA and Real to all of our English output here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/institutional/2009/10/091029_internetr adiomobilelinks.shtml Live streams are also available in Shoutcast/MP3 additionally. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 500NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Gordon Joly Sent: 30 November 2009 09:15 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing? FYI http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/realmedia/live/localradio/london.ram Gordo - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Wave
One in the post. Hi, still one left? if so, I'd go for a a try. Juergen On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Hi folks, I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like one. I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome. I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it. Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Wave
I've found it a bit problematic- there's nothing wrong with the day to day interaction, and the system though flakey is pretty good considering what it's trying to do. However, the 'contriibutor managment' model is really bad for a lot of situations. It's really hard to find other users in Wave. It's impossible to set t the outset what the distribution of a wave should be (you have to assume that they WILL be public- dangerous unless you live in a world without lawyers or Daily Mail journos!) It's impossible to actively manage what waves YOU get attached to. In essence it treats the world as a great big friendly share everything playschool, where nobody even has surprise parties let alone personal private conversations. Unless it sorts this out, and introduces a robust (and I mean properly robust) contributor management model I'd actual recommend we don't use it for work dialogues. On the other hand for properly public conversatios, like these, it might well be an excellent tool. Maybe. Not sure. a On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Juergen Hoehn juergen.ho...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, still one left? if so, I'd go for a a try. Juergen On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Hi folks, I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like one. I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome. I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it. Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Ant Miller tel: 07709 265961 email: ant.mil...@gmail.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:03:45 -,Gareth Davis wrote: snip/ Live streams are also available in Shoutcast/MP3 additionally. Oh - that is interesting ... can you point to some links and naming convention? -- Rgds Paul Webster - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Wave
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:20, Ant Miller ant.mil...@gmail.com wrote: Unless it sorts this out, and introduces a robust (and I mean properly robust) contributor management model I'd actual recommend we don't use it for work dialogues. I’d recommend waiting for a self-hosted server for “proper” use. I’d consider Google’s server to be more of a proof-of-concept than anything useful for real purposes. On the other hand for properly public conversatios, like these, it might well be an excellent tool. Maybe. Not sure. If the UX was cleaned up and streamlined a bit, then yeah, could supplant mailing lists/discussion groups to an extent. M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] MSIE Marketshare at 4%...
2009/11/30 Scot McSweeney-Roberts bbc_backst...@mcsweeney-roberts.co.uk: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 20:31, Dave Crossland d...@lab6.com wrote: ...on the PyGoWave website ;-) http://pygowave.net/ More seriously, I thought all you Wave fans might like to hear about this if you didn't already. I'm guessing from the name that it's a Wave server written in python and go, but nothing on the front page tells me what it is, except that it's a very ambitious project. Would be nice if it said what it is on the front page. Yeah. Yet another project that assumes anyone who gets as far as their home page already knows what it's about. Very poor. I clicked five or six times and was still none the wiser. -- Peter Bowyer Email: pe...@bowyer.org Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RealAudio for local radio - gone missing?
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:30:39 +, you wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:03:45 -,Gareth Davis wrote: snip/ Live streams are also available in Shoutcast/MP3 additionally. Oh - that is interesting ... can you point to some links and naming convention? Ignore that - I see it on the page http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/institutional/2009/10/091029_internetradiomobilelinks.shtml Paul - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Wave
On 1 Dec 2009, at 11:20, Ant Miller wrote: It's impossible to set t the outset what the distribution of a wave should be (you have to assume that they WILL be public- dangerous unless you live in a world without lawyers or Daily Mail journos!) It's impossible to actively manage what waves YOU get attached to. In essence it treats the world as a great big friendly share everything playschool, where nobody even has surprise parties let alone personal private conversations. Surely email has the same issue? Nothing stops me from bccing or forwarding emails from supposedly private conversations to third parties there. I'm not saying that a better way to manage participants wouldn't be welcome, but surely the existing one is no worse than those of older technologies? S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Wave
Its worse because you know the rules of email at the outset before you start playing. Once people become familiar with wave then protocols and accepted behaiviour will emerge, but for now, I'm finding the Oh I added you to a work/holiday/pictures of my cat! wave phenomenon irritating as well Is it possible to remove yourself from a wave and make it so people can't add you back on? I guess I would have expected some sort of 'you have been added to this wave, do you accept?' notification and a notification to all other users that you got added Alia Stephen Jolly wrote: On 1 Dec 2009, at 11:20, Ant Miller wrote: It's impossible to set t the outset what the distribution of a wave should be (you have to assume that they WILL be public- dangerous unless you live in a world without lawyers or Daily Mail journos!) It's impossible to actively manage what waves YOU get attached to. In essence it treats the world as a great big friendly share everything playschool, where nobody even has surprise parties let alone personal private conversations. Surely email has the same issue? Nothing stops me from bccing or forwarding emails from supposedly private conversations to third parties there. I'm not saying that a better way to manage participants wouldn't be welcome, but surely the existing one is no worse than those of older technologies? S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Google Wave
Anyone know what the rules are to upload a photo for your profile pic. I've got a small 50x46 pixel jpg file but it just won't accept it: One or more of the files you selected could not be uploaded. They may be too large or not valid image files. Please check the files and your internet connection and then try again. I tired larger and worked my way down, then got bored. 2009/11/27 Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net Brian Butterworth wrote: Hi folks, I have some Google Wave invites left .. please let me know if you would like one. I also have 16 left. If you'd like one, you're welcome. I wouldn't get excited though. I'm still not really impressed by it. It can be really nice if you have a few friends who also have it, conversations move from just being gimmicky fun to actually being quite engaging if you start to use its multimedia features. However, I'm unsure as to its usefulness as a business tool just yet - I'm open to persuasion though as long as it's actually justifiable ;) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
