Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup to same computer

2010-01-21 Thread Tino Schwarze
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 02:43:11AM +, Timothy Murphy wrote:

 What is the best way to backup a folder - 
 in fact, my mail folder /home/tim/Maildir -
 with backuppc running on the same computer?
 
 I assume that I need to allow backuppc to read this folder?

The easiest approach is
a) install an rsyncd which allows only local connects
b) threat your local machine just like any other server and use
ssh/rsync with public-key authentication

HTH,

Tino, using b).

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[BackupPC-users] Thanks for the software

2010-01-21 Thread Sorin Srbu
Hi all,

Just want to say thanks for this little gem. I just installed the software on 
a departmental Backupserver for our linux-group. After some initial troubles 
with the RSA-key and copy of the same to the clients, it all started to work 
properly; flawlessly that is (mental note; read howto's first...).

Very nice piece of software this. My thanks to the authors!
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Re: [BackupPC-users] FileListReceive failed on Irix machine

2010-01-21 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se]
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:10 PM
To: 'backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net'
Subject: FileListReceive failed on Irix machine

Hi all,

Of course after having mailed to this list about how good BackupPC is and how
it worked flawlessly, I ran into a problem with one of our ancient
SGI-machines. The error I get is seen below.

full backup started for directory /etc
Running: /usr/bin/ssh -q -x -l root xxx.yyy.zzz.nnn
/usr/sbin/rsync --server --sender --numeric-ids --perms --owner --group -D 
--links
 --hard-links --times --block-size=2048 --recursive --ignore-times . /etc/
Xfer PIDs are now 16088
Got remote protocol 1920169263
Fatal error (bad version): /usr/sbin/rsync
Read EOF:
Tried again: got 0 bytes
fileListReceive() failed
Done: 0 files, 0 bytes
Got fatal error during xfer (fileListReceive failed)
Backup aborted (fileListReceive failed)

First problem was that it couldn't find the rsync executable, but I managed 
to
track it down and change the path in this particular machine's setup page in
BackupPC.

After that, I got the above error message. Here however, I'm not entirely 
sure
what's causing the failed fileListReceive command. I have a hunch it might be
a case of BackupPC looking in the wrong place for something, just as with the
former rsync executabel, but what?

Unfortunately I'm not that into Irix at all, but know enough to know that it
isn't quite like normal linux.

Would anybody who has any insights in Irix please give me a hint or two as 
how
to fix this?

What's worse, there is no dmesg, as I know of in Irix, as suggested on 
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/backuppc/index.php?title=Troubleshooting#fileListReceive_failed...
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Determining space consumed by a backup

2010-01-21 Thread Ken Long
On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 21:38 +0100, Pieter Wuille wrote:

 Yes, this is possible to determine. By default, the du system utility will
 count files occurring more than once in a set of directories only once.
 if you use this three times:
 
   cd /var/lib/backuppc/pc
   du -sh *
   du -sh [all workstations]
   du -sh [all non-workstations]
 
 You get three numbers, A, B and C. B is how much space you will need (excuding
 some filesystem metadata + size of the pool/cpool directories, but if you have
 4TB of data, this is probably neglectable) on the new backuppc server. A-C is
 how much space you'll be able to free on the original one. Note that these
 commands may take a while (a few hours, i'd say) on a large filesystem.
 
 As for the migration itself, i'd suggest you to first attempt to create two
 identical backuppc configurations, with all data on both. If this works, you
 can delete all workstation-pc-subdirs on the second, and all
 non-workstation-pc-subdirs on the first. The nightly job will then delete all
 files which aren't used by any backup anymore.
 In case this is not possible because of harddisk space constraints, it may be
 a little more tricky/dangerous.

Excellent.  You're right, du is going to take a
loogg time, but if it'll keep track, that works
great.  And that was about what I was expecting on the copy - space may
be tricky, but I might have a way to temporarily get around that by
adding some extra (non-permanent) storage with LVM for the copy, then
after I trim everything down, I can remove the extra space.  

Thanks a lot for the help!

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[BackupPC-users] FileListReceive failed on Irix machine

2010-01-21 Thread Sorin Srbu
Hi all,

Of course after having mailed to this list about how good BackupPC is and how 
it worked flawlessly, I ran into a problem with one of our ancient 
SGI-machines. The error I get is seen below.

full backup started for directory /etc
Running: /usr/bin/ssh -q -x -l root xxx.yyy.zzz.nnn 
/usr/sbin/rsync --server --sender --numeric-ids --perms --owner --group -D 
--links 
 --hard-links --times --block-size=2048 --recursive --ignore-times . /etc/
Xfer PIDs are now 16088
Got remote protocol 1920169263
Fatal error (bad version): /usr/sbin/rsync
Read EOF:
Tried again: got 0 bytes
fileListReceive() failed
Done: 0 files, 0 bytes
Got fatal error during xfer (fileListReceive failed)
Backup aborted (fileListReceive failed)

First problem was that it couldn't find the rsync executable, but I managed to 
track it down and change the path in this particular machine's setup page in 
BackupPC.

After that, I got the above error message. Here however, I'm not entirely sure 
what's causing the failed fileListReceive command. I have a hunch it might be 
a case of BackupPC looking in the wrong place for something, just as with the 
former rsync executabel, but what?

Unfortunately I'm not that into Irix at all, but know enough to know that it 
isn't quite like normal linux.

Would anybody who has any insights in Irix please give me a hint or two as how 
to fix this?

Thanks.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] FileListReceive failed on Irix machine

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Maciolek
hi,

I could never get rsync to work with our last SGI system and I switched 
it to use gnu tar instead.

I got it gnu tar from http://freeware.sgi.com/

Mark



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 it worked flawlessly, I ran into a problem with one of our ancient

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup to same computer

2010-01-21 Thread Timothy Murphy
Tino Schwarze wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 02:43:11AM +, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 
 What is the best way to backup a folder -
 in fact, my mail folder /home/tim/Maildir -
 with backuppc running on the same computer?
 
 I assume that I need to allow backuppc to read this folder?
 
 The easiest approach is
 a) install an rsyncd which allows only local connects
 b) threat your local machine just like any other server and use
 ssh/rsync with public-key authentication
 
 Tino, using b).

Thanks for your comment.
I take it from your final remark that (a) and (b)
are alternative methods?

I tried (b), as far as I understood it, but without success.
I added my id_rsa.pub to backuppc's .ssh/authorized_keys
so that when I run as backuppc on this machine (helen)
I can access my account with
ssh -l tim helen .

However, when I try to backup /home/tim/Maildir/
I fail with the usual 4 bytes failure:
---
2010-01-21 14:14:19 full backup started for directory /home/tim/Maildir/
2010-01-21 14:14:20 Got fatal error during xfer (Unable to read 4 bytes)
2010-01-21 14:14:25 Backup aborted (Unable to read 4 bytes)
---

Could you say precisely what you did to get this working, please.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] FileListReceive failed on Irix machine

2010-01-21 Thread Les Mikesell
Sorin Srbu wrote:

 Of course after having mailed to this list about how good BackupPC is and how
 it worked flawlessly, I ran into a problem with one of our ancient
 SGI-machines. The error I get is seen below.

 full backup started for directory /etc
 Running: /usr/bin/ssh -q -x -l root xxx.yyy.zzz.nnn
 /usr/sbin/rsync --server --sender --numeric-ids --perms --owner --group -D 
 --links
 --hard-links --times --block-size=2048 --recursive --ignore-times . /etc/
 Xfer PIDs are now 16088
 Got remote protocol 1920169263
 Fatal error (bad version): /usr/sbin/rsync

Valid protocol numbers should be 30 or lower; backuppc must negotiate 28 or 
lower.  Something is very wrong here.

 Read EOF:
 Tried again: got 0 bytes
 fileListReceive() failed
 Done: 0 files, 0 bytes
 Got fatal error during xfer (fileListReceive failed)
 Backup aborted (fileListReceive failed)

 First problem was that it couldn't find the rsync executable, but I managed 
 to
 track it down and change the path in this particular machine's setup page in
 BackupPC.

 After that, I got the above error message. Here however, I'm not entirely 
 sure
 what's causing the failed fileListReceive command. I have a hunch it might be
 a case of BackupPC looking in the wrong place for something, just as with the
 former rsync executabel, but what?

 Unfortunately I'm not that into Irix at all, but know enough to know that it
 isn't quite like normal linux.

 Would anybody who has any insights in Irix please give me a hint or two as 
 how
 to fix this?
 
 What's worse, there is no dmesg, as I know of in Irix, as suggested on 
 http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/backuppc/index.php?title=Troubleshooting#fileListReceive_failed...

First, make sure that there is nothing like a message-of-the-day generating 
output from the shell before rsync starts.  That's a common problem but I'm not 
sure if it causes this issue.  You should be able to test with some rsync 
commands from the backuppc server command line to see if it works at all.  If 
not and you have a compiler, I'd try to build a newer version from source.  Or 
switch to tar as the xfer method.  For that you need the gnu version of tar 
which may be named gtar if you have it at all.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup to same computer

2010-01-21 Thread Adam Goryachev
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Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Tino Schwarze wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 02:43:11AM +, Timothy Murphy wrote:

 What is the best way to backup a folder -
 in fact, my mail folder /home/tim/Maildir -
 with backuppc running on the same computer?

 I assume that I need to allow backuppc to read this folder?
 The easiest approach is
 a) install an rsyncd which allows only local connects
 b) threat your local machine just like any other server and use
 ssh/rsync with public-key authentication

 Tino, using b).
 
 Thanks for your comment.
 I take it from your final remark that (a) and (b)
 are alternative methods?
 
 I tried (b), as far as I understood it, but without success.
 I added my id_rsa.pub to backuppc's .ssh/authorized_keys
 so that when I run as backuppc on this machine (helen)
 I can access my account with
   ssh -l tim helen .

backuppc needs the private id_rsa file in it's .ssh directory. You need
to add the id_rsa.pub to tim's .ssh/authorized_keys file on helen...

 However, when I try to backup /home/tim/Maildir/
 I fail with the usual 4 bytes failure:
 ---
 2010-01-21 14:14:19 full backup started for directory /home/tim/Maildir/
 2010-01-21 14:14:20 Got fatal error during xfer (Unable to read 4 bytes)
 2010-01-21 14:14:25 Backup aborted (Unable to read 4 bytes)
 ---
 
 Could you say precisely what you did to get this working, please.
 

Try making sure you can login as the backuppc user and do ssh -l tim
helen id and get just the string tim back You need to do that
once manually anyway to accept the SSH host key for backuppc user.

Hope that helps.

Regards,
Adam
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Re: [BackupPC-users] FileListReceive failed on Irix machine

2010-01-21 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: Mark Maciolek [mailto:m...@sr.unh.edu]
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:40 PM
To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] FileListReceive failed on Irix machine

I could never get rsync to work with our last SGI system and I switched
it to use gnu tar instead.

I got it gnu tar from http://freeware.sgi.com/

@Les Mikesell and Mark Maciolek:

I'll look into gtar instead then. Thanks!

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Re: [BackupPC-users] FileListReceive failed on Irix machine

2010-01-21 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: Adam Goryachev [mailto:mailingli...@websitemanagers.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:47 PM
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] FileListReceive failed on Irix machine

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 On 1/21/2010 7:09 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
 it worked flawlessly, I ran into a problem with one of our ancient

Sorry, missed replying to your original message, but from memory (on
linux systems) it seems to suggest that when backuppc logs into your
irix machine and attempts to run rsync, it is getting some input from a
shell or other login script instead of input from rsync binary. You
might try to login to the backuppc machine as the backuppc user, and run
the command ssh r...@irix id and make sure you do not get *ANY* output
other than root. If you get any other output track down what is
causing it, and remove it.

Thanks. It would seem that using tar instead with this machine might be
easier. 

I'll try it out and see what I get, and then post back when and if.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] (fileListReceive failed)

2010-01-21 Thread Pat Rice
So is there any way I can change rsync's MAXPATHLEN ? I have a look at
the config file but I can seem to see it any where ?

Any help would be greatly appriceated.

Thanks
Pat

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Michael Stowe
mst...@chicago.us.mensa.org wrote:

 The following is appearing in the logs:

 2010-01-18 15:53:00 User backuppc requested backup of law98 (law98)
 2010-01-18 15:53:01 Started full backup on law98 (pid=14346, share=cDrive)
 2010-01-18 15:53:37 law98: overflow: flags=0x78 l1=215 l2=352471873,
 lastname=Documents and Settings/Administrator/Local
 Settings/Application Data/Google/Google Desktop/db8b98c89a34/dbeam
 2010-01-18 15:53:42 Backup failed on law98 (fileListReceive failed)

 This part implies that you're exceeding rsync's MAXPATHLEN -- in other
 words, the path you're trying to transfer is bigger than what rsync can
 accept (on one end or the other.)

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Re: [BackupPC-users] FileListReceive failed on Irix machine

2010-01-21 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se]
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:37 PM
To: 'General list for user discussion, questions and support'
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] FileListReceive failed on Irix machine

I could never get rsync to work with our last SGI system and I switched
it to use gnu tar instead.

I got it gnu tar from http://freeware.sgi.com/

@Les Mikesell and Mark Maciolek:

I'll look into gtar instead then. Thanks!

This support-list appears to be as good as the software. ;-)

Seems to be working with gtar. Thanks guys!
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[BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Don Krause
We've been happily running BackupPC for a couple years now at a couple 
different sites.

One site, running 3.0 was behaving perfectly, until Monday night, when much to 
my surprise, it had deleted every backup, and had preformed a full against all 
hosts. That full is labeled 0.

That made it a great time to upgrade, so I rm'ed the backuppc data directories, 
installed 3.1.0, restarted the backups.. But the problem persists..

Every night since, it removes the last evenings backup, and does a new full, 
still labeled 0. 

Any ideas where to start looking?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] (fileListReceive failed)

2010-01-21 Thread Michael Stowe

It is [unfortunately] compiled in, but this comes from the OLDNEWS file on
my distribution:

- Some buffer sizes were expanded a bit, particularly on systems where
  MAXPATHLEN is overly small (e.g. cygwin).

So it may suffice to upgrade to a later version.  It's defined in
rsync.h but would typically be set by the build platform.

 So is there any way I can change rsync's MAXPATHLEN ? I have a look at
 the config file but I can seem to see it any where ?

 Any help would be greatly appriceated.

 Thanks
 Pat

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 mst...@chicago.us.mensa.org wrote:

 The following is appearing in the logs:

 2010-01-18 15:53:00 User backuppc requested backup of law98 (law98)
 2010-01-18 15:53:01 Started full backup on law98 (pid=14346,
 share=cDrive)
 2010-01-18 15:53:37 law98: overflow: flags=0x78 l1=215 l2=352471873,
 lastname=Documents and Settings/Administrator/Local
 Settings/Application Data/Google/Google Desktop/db8b98c89a34/dbeam
 2010-01-18 15:53:42 Backup failed on law98 (fileListReceive failed)

 This part implies that you're exceeding rsync's MAXPATHLEN -- in other
 words, the path you're trying to transfer is bigger than what rsync can
 accept (on one end or the other.)

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup to same computer

2010-01-21 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
I came to the conclusion that tar was actually a faster way to do backups on
the local system. Less CPU usage, and bandwidth is not a problem. YMMV.

You do need to use sudo in order to make sure you can access all the files,
however, so add a couple of lines like this to your /etc/sudoers:

# allow backuppc to run as root, in order to get all the files
backuppc ALL=NOPASSWD: /bin/tar



here's my localhost.pl file:

#
# Local server backup of /etc as user backuppc
#
$Conf{XferMethod} = 'tar';

# let it back itself up anytime it wants to.
$Conf{BlackoutPeriods} = [];

$Conf{TarShareName} = ['/'];

$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = ['/proc', '/sys', '/var/lib/backuppc',
'/var/log', '/tmp', '/var/tmp', '/mnt', '/media'];

$Conf{TarClientCmd} = '/usr/bin/env LC_ALL=C /usr/bin/sudo $tarPath -c -v -f
- -C $shareName --totals';

# remove extra shell escapes ($fileList+ etc.) that are
# needed for remote backups but may break local ones
$Conf{TarFullArgs} = '$fileList';
$Conf{TarIncrArgs} = '--newer=$incrDate $fileList';

# turning off compression on these files, so they can be recovered without
# backuppc.
# wouldn't make sense to need your backup server, 
# in order to recover your backup server, now would it?
$Conf{CompressLevel} = 0;


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup to same computer

2010-01-21 Thread Tino Schwarze
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:31:26AM -0600, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote:

 I came to the conclusion that tar was actually a faster way to do backups on
 the local system. Less CPU usage, and bandwidth is not a problem. YMMV.

But tar comes with a price: If you extract an archive, therefore
creating files with ctime in the past, they won't get picked up by
incremental backups.

I suppose, you already knew that...

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/21/2010 10:08 AM, Don Krause wrote:
 We've been happily running BackupPC for a couple years now at a couple 
 different sites.

 One site, running 3.0 was behaving perfectly, until Monday night, when much 
 to my surprise, it had deleted every backup, and had preformed a full against 
 all hosts. That full is labeled 0.

 That made it a great time to upgrade, so I rm'ed the backuppc data 
 directories, installed 3.1.0, restarted the backups.. But the problem 
 persists..

 Every night since, it removes the last evenings backup, and does a new full, 
 still labeled 0.

 Any ideas where to start looking?

Did you do an fsck on the filesystem holding the backups?  I doubt if 
this is related to backuppc itself.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Don Krause

On Jan 21, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:

 On 1/21/2010 10:08 AM, Don Krause wrote:
 We've been happily running BackupPC for a couple years now at a couple 
 different sites.
 
 One site, running 3.0 was behaving perfectly, until Monday night, when much 
 to my surprise, it had deleted every backup, and had preformed a full 
 against all hosts. That full is labeled 0.
 
 That made it a great time to upgrade, so I rm'ed the backuppc data 
 directories, installed 3.1.0, restarted the backups.. But the problem 
 persists..
 
 Every night since, it removes the last evenings backup, and does a new full, 
 still labeled 0.
 
 Any ideas where to start looking?
 
 Did you do an fsck on the filesystem holding the backups?  I doubt if 
 this is related to backuppc itself.

fsck comes back clean. even when run forced.

I doubt this is a backuppc problem, I'm just at a loss where to look. This 
worked fine on this box for 18months +, there's no changes to the config files, 
they pass both diff and md5 against their backups.

FWIW, it's running SLES 10, on an HP385 with 6x300G SCSI, RAID 5, ext3.

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[BackupPC-users] can't ping 'client'...sort of...

2010-01-21 Thread three_jeeps

Hi: 
My backuppc server is a debian machine and I am trying to backup an xp machine.
BackupPC tells me that it can't ping my xp machine.  From a terminal window in 
debian, i can ping my xp machine when i use the ip address. 192.160.xx.xx
If I ping using the host name of the xp machine (e.g. foo), the ping command 
displays some ip address i've never seen...something like 63.123.155.104how 
is it getting that and how can it be corrected?

I recall that nslookup looks at the local hosts file first to resolve the 
namei look in my hosts file and found no such addressnow what?
Thanks
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup to same computer

2010-01-21 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/21/2010 10:50 AM, Tino Schwarze wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:31:26AM -0600, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote:

 I came to the conclusion that tar was actually a faster way to do backups on
 the local system. Less CPU usage, and bandwidth is not a problem. YMMV.

 But tar comes with a price: If you extract an archive, therefore
 creating files with ctime in the past, they won't get picked up by
 incremental backups.

 I suppose, you already knew that...

Most systems can't backdate ctime, only mtime, so you could fix that 
with the right arguments to gnutar.  The part you can't fix easily is 
where you rename a directory and want to pick up the old files below it 
in their new location.  Gnutar's --listed-incremental mode will handle 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/21/2010 11:07 AM, Don Krause wrote:

 On Jan 21, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:

 On 1/21/2010 10:08 AM, Don Krause wrote:
 We've been happily running BackupPC for a couple years now at a couple 
 different sites.

 One site, running 3.0 was behaving perfectly, until Monday night, when much 
 to my surprise, it had deleted every backup, and had preformed a full 
 against all hosts. That full is labeled 0.

 That made it a great time to upgrade, so I rm'ed the backuppc data 
 directories, installed 3.1.0, restarted the backups.. But the problem 
 persists..

 Every night since, it removes the last evenings backup, and does a new 
 full, still labeled 0.

 Any ideas where to start looking?

 Did you do an fsck on the filesystem holding the backups?  I doubt if
 this is related to backuppc itself.

 fsck comes back clean. even when run forced.

 I doubt this is a backuppc problem, I'm just at a loss where to look. This 
 worked fine on this box for 18months +, there's no changes to the config 
 files, they pass both diff and md5 against their backups.

 FWIW, it's running SLES 10, on an HP385 with 6x300G SCSI, RAID 5, ext3.

Is it just a problem with the file containing the list of backups or do 
the numbered backup directories under the pc/hostname/ directory go away 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Craig Barratt
Don writes:

  Every night since, it removes the last evenings backup, and does a
  new full, still labeled 0.

 fsck comes back clean. even when run forced.

Is there some way that $Conf{FullKeepCnt} got set to 0?
Please check both the main and per-host config files.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Don Krause
Nope, it set to:

$Conf{FullKeepCnt} = [
  4,
  0,
  4,
  0,
  0,
  2
];



On Jan 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Craig Barratt wrote:

 Don writes:
 
 Every night since, it removes the last evenings backup, and does a
 new full, still labeled 0.
 
 fsck comes back clean. even when run forced.
 
 Is there some way that $Conf{FullKeepCnt} got set to 0?
 Please check both the main and per-host config files.
 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] FileListReceive failed on Irix machine

2010-01-21 Thread Craig Barratt
Sorin writes:

 full backup started for directory /etc
 Running: /usr/bin/ssh -q -x -l root xxx.yyy.zzz.nnn
 /usr/sbin/rsync --server --sender --numeric-ids --perms --owner --group -D 
 --links
  --hard-links --times --block-size=2048 --recursive --ignore-times . /etc/
 Xfer PIDs are now 16088
 Got remote protocol 1920169263
 Fatal error (bad version): /usr/sbin/rsync

I realize you have switched to gtar, but just for the record, the
reason it is failing is that the ssh command generates this output

/usr/sbin/rsync

instead of quietly running rsync.  So something on that machine
(.bashrc, ssh debug etc?) is printing the command before it
executes it.

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[BackupPC-users] old backups not showing

2010-01-21 Thread Leandro Tracchia
I recently installed backuppc onto a new server and mounted
/var/lib/backuppc from a remote NAS where all the backup data is stored. I
can see all the old backups for the all my hosts except one. This one host
ran a scheduled backup last night which started as backup # 0. I can see the
old backups for this host when mounting the NAS onto my linux machine where
backuppc is installed, but the backuppc web interface won't show me these
backups, it only shows me backup #0. Why is it not showing me the older
backups? I'm using backuppc 3.0 on ubuntu 8.04 server edition.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Don Krause
Just an update, there are no errors in the logs, and a forced fsck on the file 
system is clean..

llupbt2:~ # fsck.ext3 -f /dev/cciss/c0d0p6
e2fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
/dev/cciss/c0d0p6: 5987824/181534720 files (0.6% non-contiguous), 
105141741/363048910 blocks
llupbt2:~ # 


On Jan 21, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Don Krause wrote:

 Nope, it set to:
 
 $Conf{FullKeepCnt} = [
  4,
  0,
  4,
  0,
  0,
  2
 ];
 
 
 
 On Jan 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Craig Barratt wrote:
 
 Don writes:
 
 Every night since, it removes the last evenings backup, and does a
 new full, still labeled 0.
 
 fsck comes back clean. even when run forced.
 
 Is there some way that $Conf{FullKeepCnt} got set to 0?
 Please check both the main and per-host config files.
 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Don Krause
On Jan 21, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:

 On 1/21/2010 11:07 AM, Don Krause wrote:
 
 On Jan 21, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 
 On 1/21/2010 10:08 AM, Don Krause wrote:
 We've been happily running BackupPC for a couple years now at a couple 
 different sites.
 
 One site, running 3.0 was behaving perfectly, until Monday night, when 
 much to my surprise, it had deleted every backup, and had preformed a full 
 against all hosts. That full is labeled 0.
 
 That made it a great time to upgrade, so I rm'ed the backuppc data 
 directories, installed 3.1.0, restarted the backups.. But the problem 
 persists..
 
 Every night since, it removes the last evenings backup, and does a new 
 full, still labeled 0.
 
 Any ideas where to start looking?
 
 Did you do an fsck on the filesystem holding the backups?  I doubt if
 this is related to backuppc itself.
 
 fsck comes back clean. even when run forced.
 
 I doubt this is a backuppc problem, I'm just at a loss where to look. This 
 worked fine on this box for 18months +, there's no changes to the config 
 files, they pass both diff and md5 against their backups.
 
 FWIW, it's running SLES 10, on an HP385 with 6x300G SCSI, RAID 5, ext3.
 
 Is it just a problem with the file containing the list of backups or do 
 the numbered backup directories under the pc/hostname/ directory go away 
 too?
 
 -- 
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The numbered directories are gone. I only have 0 from last nights backup, 
which is 0.3 days old, and it replaced the one from the day before..

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Tino Schwarze
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:37:31AM -0800, Don Krause wrote:
 Just an update, there are no errors in the logs, and a forced fsck on the 
 file system is clean..

Please post the main logfile of BackupPC and a logfile of one affected
host - spanning at least 2 days of continuous operation.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] old backups not showing

2010-01-21 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Leandro Tracchia ltracc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I recently installed backuppc onto a new server and mounted
 /var/lib/backuppc from a remote NAS where all the backup data is stored. I
 can see all the old backups for the all my hosts except one. This one host
 ran a scheduled backup last night which started as backup # 0. I can see the
 old backups for this host when mounting the NAS onto my linux machine where
 backuppc is installed, but the backuppc web interface won't show me these
 backups, it only shows me backup #0. Why is it not showing me the older
 backups? I'm using backuppc 3.0 on ubuntu 8.04 server edition.

I have no idea if it's the same problem I had, but are you running
selinux in enforcing mode? I had moved my backups to /home/BackupPC
because I had more room on that partition not realizing the proper
selinux contexts were only being maintained for /var/lib/BackupPC.
Since I recently purchased a new 500GB drive I decided to put backups
back under /var/lib/BackupPC and now all my backups are showing again
in the web interface. You can manually update the context but if they
are not part of the targeted policy then if your volumes get relabeled
for any reason the changes will be reverted.

If you are running selinux in enforcing mode try changing temporarily
to permissive and see if the problem persists.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Craig Barratt
Don writes:

 The numbered directories are gone. I only have 0 from last nights backup, 
 which is 0.3 days old, and it replaced the one from the day before..

Please look in the host's LOG file.  Do you see messages like:

2005-02-06 11:20:55 removing old full backup 0

If not, then it appears something other than BackupPC is
removing or trashing the files.

If so, then BackupPC is removing the backups, and the only
explanation I can think of is the $Conf{FullKeepCnt} ends
up being 0.  Could you have a syntax error in your main or
per-PC config.pl files?  Eg: try running this:

perl PATH_TO_MAIN_CONFIG/config.pl
perl PATH_TO_PER_HOST_CONFIG/config.pl

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Re: [BackupPC-users] old backups not showing

2010-01-21 Thread Craig Barratt
Leandro writes:

 I recently installed backuppc onto a new server and mounted /var/lib/backuppc 
 from a remote NAS where all the backup data is stored. I can see all the old 
 backups for the all my hosts except one. This one host ran a scheduled backup 
 last night which started as backup # 0. I can see the old backups for this 
 host when mounting the NAS onto my linux machine where backuppc is installed, 
 but the backuppc web interface won't show me these backups, it only shows me 
 backup #0. Why is it not showing me the older backups? I'm using backuppc 3.0 
 on ubuntu 8.04 server edition.

It sounds like the backups file got trashed.

It's the file in, eg, /data/BackupPC/pc/HOST/backups that summarizes
each back.  I assume it only has one line in it, right?

If you have several numbered directories in /data/BackupPC/pc/HOST
that don't have matching lines in /data/BackupPC/pc/HOST/backups
then you should rebuild the backups file:

su backuppc
cp /data/BackupPC/pc/HOST/backups /data/BackupPC/pc/HOST/backups.save
/usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC_fixupBackupSummary HOST

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Don Krause

On Jan 21, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Tino Schwarze wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:37:31AM -0800, Don Krause wrote:
 Just an update, there are no errors in the logs, and a forced fsck on the 
 file system is clean..
 
 Please post the main logfile of BackupPC and a logfile of one affected
 host - spanning at least 2 days of continuous operation.
 
 Tino.
 

Sure.. The affected hosts (all of them on this installation.) only appear to 
have a very short log file for the previous night. It's almost as if the log 
file is being overwritten nightly as well..

As a bonus, here's the config file: (Comments stripped..)


$Conf{ServerHost} = 'llupbt2';

$Conf{ServerPort} = -1;

$Conf{ServerMesgSecret} = '';

$Conf{MyPath} = '/bin';

$Conf{UmaskMode} = 23;

$Conf{WakeupSchedule} = [
  1,
  2,
  3,
  4,
  5,
  6,
  7,
  8,
  9,
  10,
  11,
  12,
  13,
  14,
  15,
  16,
  17,
  18,
  19,
  20,
  21,
  22,
  23
];

$Conf{MaxBackups} = 4;

$Conf{MaxUserBackups} = 4;

$Conf{MaxPendingCmds} = 10;

$Conf{MaxBackupPCNightlyJobs} = 2;

$Conf{BackupPCNightlyPeriod} = 1;

$Conf{MaxOldLogFiles} = 14;

$Conf{DfPath} = '/bin/df';

$Conf{DfCmd} = '$dfPath $topDir';

$Conf{SplitPath} = '/usr/bin/split';
$Conf{ParPath} = undef;
$Conf{CatPath} = '/bin/cat';
$Conf{GzipPath} = '/usr/bin/gzip';
$Conf{Bzip2Path} = '/usr/bin/bzip2';

$Conf{DfMaxUsagePct} = 95;

$Conf{TrashCleanSleepSec} = 300;

$Conf{DHCPAddressRanges} = [];

$Conf{BackupPCUser} = 'backuppc';

$Conf{TopDir} = '/export/facility/BackupPC';
$Conf{ConfDir} = '/etc/BackupPC';
$Conf{LogDir} = '/var/log/BackupPC';
$Conf{InstallDir} = '/usr/local/BackupPC';
$Conf{CgiDir} = '/usr/local/BackupPC/Apache/cgi-bin';

$Conf{BackupPCUserVerify} = '1';

$Conf{HardLinkMax} = 31999;

$Conf{PerlModuleLoad} = undef;

$Conf{ServerInitdPath} = undef;
$Conf{ServerInitdStartCmd} = '';


$Conf{FullPeriod} = '6.97';

$Conf{IncrPeriod} = '0.97';

$Conf{FullKeepCnt} = [
  4,
  0,
  4,
  0,
  0,
  2
];

$Conf{FullKeepCntMin} = 1;
$Conf{FullAgeMax} = 90;

$Conf{IncrKeepCnt} = 6;

$Conf{IncrKeepCntMin} = 1;
$Conf{IncrAgeMax} = 30;

$Conf{IncrLevels} = [
  1
];

$Conf{BackupsDisable} = 0;

$Conf{PartialAgeMax} = 3;

$Conf{IncrFill} = '0';

$Conf{RestoreInfoKeepCnt} = 10;

$Conf{ArchiveInfoKeepCnt} = 10;

$Conf{BackupFilesOnly} = {};

$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
  '*' = [
'/proc'
  ]
};

$Conf{BlackoutBadPingLimit} = 3;
$Conf{BlackoutGoodCnt} = 4;

$Conf{BlackoutPeriods} = [
  {
'hourEnd' = '23.5',
'weekDays' = [
  1,
  2,
  3,
  4,
  5
],
'hourBegin' = 6
  }
];

$Conf{BackupZeroFilesIsFatal} = '1';

$Conf{XferMethod} = 'tar';

$Conf{XferLogLevel} = 1;

$Conf{ClientCharset} = '';

$Conf{ClientCharsetLegacy} = 'iso-8859-1';

$Conf{SmbShareName} = [
  'C$'
];

$Conf{SmbShareUserName} = '';

$Conf{SmbSharePasswd} = '';

$Conf{SmbClientPath} = '/usr/bin/smbclient';

$Conf{SmbClientFullCmd} = '$smbClientPath $host\\$shareName $I_option -U 
$userName -E -N -d 1 -c tarmode\\ full -Tc$X_option - $fileList';

$Conf{SmbClientIncrCmd} = '$smbClientPath $host\\$shareName $I_option -U 
$userName -E -N -d 1 -c tarmode\\ full -TcN$X_option $timeStampFile - 
$fileList';

$Conf{SmbClientRestoreCmd} = '$smbClientPath $host\\$shareName $I_option -U 
$userName -E -N -d 1 -c tarmode\\ full -Tx -';

$Conf{TarShareName} = [
  '/'
];

$Conf{TarClientCmd} = '$sshPath -q -x -n -l root $host env LC_ALL=C $tarPath -c 
-v -f - -C $shareName+ --totals';

$Conf{TarFullArgs} = '$fileList+';

$Conf{TarIncrArgs} = '--newer=$incrDate+ $fileList+';

$Conf{TarClientRestoreCmd} = '$sshPath -q -x -l root $host env LC_ALL=C 
$tarPath -x -p --numeric-owner --same-owner -v -f - -C $shareName+';

$Conf{TarClientPath} = '/bin/tar';

$Conf{RsyncClientPath} = '/usr/bin/rsync';

$Conf{RsyncClientCmd} = '$sshPath -q -x -l root $host $rsyncPath $argList+';

$Conf{RsyncClientRestoreCmd} = '$sshPath -q -x -l root $host $rsyncPath 
$argList+';

$Conf{RsyncShareName} = [
  '/'
];

$Conf{RsyncdClientPort} = 873;

$Conf{RsyncdUserName} = '';

$Conf{RsyncdPasswd} = '';

$Conf{RsyncdAuthRequired} = '1';

$Conf{RsyncCsumCacheVerifyProb} = '0.01';

$Conf{RsyncArgs} = [
  '--numeric-ids',
  '--perms',
  '--owner',
  '--group',
  '-D',
  '--links',
  '--hard-links',
  '--times',
  '--block-size=2048',
  '--recursive'
];

$Conf{RsyncRestoreArgs} = [
  '--numeric-ids',
  '--perms',
  '--owner',
  '--group',
  '-D',
  '--links',
  '--hard-links',
  '--times',
  '--block-size=2048',
  '--relative',
  '--ignore-times',
  '--recursive'
];

$Conf{BackupPCdShareName} = '/';

$Conf{BackupPCdPath} = '';

$Conf{BackupPCdCmd} = '$bpcdPath $host $shareName $poolDir  $poolCompress 
$topDir/pc/$client/new';

$Conf{BackupPCdRestoreCmd} = '$bpcdPath TODO';


$Conf{ArchiveDest} = '/tmp';

$Conf{ArchiveComp} = 'gzip';

$Conf{ArchivePar} = '0';

$Conf{ArchiveSplit} = 0;

$Conf{ArchiveClientCmd} = '$Installdir/bin/BackupPC_archiveHost $tarCreatePath 
$splitpath $parpath $host $backupnumber $compression $compext $splitsize 

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Tino Schwarze
Hi Don,

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:54:17AM -0800, Don Krause wrote:

  On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:37:31AM -0800, Don Krause wrote:
  Just an update, there are no errors in the logs, and a forced fsck on the 
  file system is clean..
  
  Please post the main logfile of BackupPC and a logfile of one affected
  host - spanning at least 2 days of continuous operation.
  
  Tino.
  
 
 Sure.. The affected hosts (all of them on this installation.) only appear to 
 have a very short log file for the previous night. It's almost as if the log 
 file is being overwritten nightly as well..

Please provide the logfiles  hosts as well - there is a
separate logfile for each host available via web interface...
And this logfile is rotated, but it shouldn't start anew each day.

(I didn't have the time to look through the config for now).

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Tony Schreiner

On Jan 21, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Don Krause wrote:


 On Jan 21, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Tino Schwarze wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:37:31AM -0800, Don Krause wrote:
 Just an update, there are no errors in the logs, and a forced fsck  
 on the file system is clean..

 Please post the main logfile of BackupPC and a logfile of one  
 affected
 host - spanning at least 2 days of continuous operation.

 Tino.


 Sure.. The affected hosts (all of them on this installation.) only  
 appear to have a very short log file for the previous night. It's  
 almost as if the log file is being overwritten nightly as well..

 As a bonus, here's the config file: (Comments stripped..)


 $Conf{ServerHost} = 'llupbt2';




i've trimmed most of your included output for my reply, but  before  
2AM incrementals are running, but after 2 AM only fulls.  Is something  
happening to your disk at 2?

Can you halt BackupPC for one day and see if it's empty in the morning?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Don Krause
On Jan 21, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Tino Schwarze wrote:

 Hi Don,
 
 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:54:17AM -0800, Don Krause wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:37:31AM -0800, Don Krause wrote:
 Just an update, there are no errors in the logs, and a forced fsck on the 
 file system is clean..
 
 Please post the main logfile of BackupPC and a logfile of one affected
 host - spanning at least 2 days of continuous operation.
 
 Tino.
 
 
 Sure.. The affected hosts (all of them on this installation.) only appear to 
 have a very short log file for the previous night. It's almost as if the log 
 file is being overwritten nightly as well..
 
 Please provide the logfiles  hosts as well - there is a
 separate logfile for each host available via web interface...
 And this logfile is rotated, but it shouldn't start anew each day.
 
 (I didn't have the time to look through the config for now).
 
 Tino.


They were in the same email, below the config.

This is a typical client log file.. (This would be calib)

llupbt2:/export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib # cat LOG.012010 
2010-01-21 02:00:18 full backup started for directory /
2010-01-21 02:20:37 full backup 0 complete, 39312 files, 1082940297 bytes, 20 
xferErrs (0 bad files, 0 bad shares, 20 other)


It's very strange, the per host log file looks like a new host, the backup file 
just lists the one '0' backup.

Also, running perl on the various config files returns no errors..

llupbt2:/export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib # perl /etc/BackupPC/config.pl
llupbt2:/export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib # perl /etc/BackupPC/pc/calib.pl 
llupbt2:/export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib # 


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Tony Schreiner
I meant to also add in my previous message

Check in particular the

$topdir/pc

directory after 2AM

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Don Krause

On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Craig Barratt wrote:

 Don writes:
 
 The numbered directories are gone. I only have 0 from last nights backup, 
 which is 0.3 days old, and it replaced the one from the day before..
 
 Please look in the host's LOG file.  Do you see messages like:
 
2005-02-06 11:20:55 removing old full backup 0
 
 If not, then it appears something other than BackupPC is
 removing or trashing the files.
 
 If so, then BackupPC is removing the backups, and the only
 explanation I can think of is the $Conf{FullKeepCnt} ends
 up being 0.  Could you have a syntax error in your main or
 per-PC config.pl files?  Eg: try running this:
 
perl PATH_TO_MAIN_CONFIG/config.pl
perl PATH_TO_PER_HOST_CONFIG/config.pl
 
 Craig
 


llupbt2:/export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib # perl /etc/BackupPC/config.pl
llupbt2:/export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib # perl /etc/BackupPC/pc/calib.pl 
llupbt2:/export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib # 

No instances of removing in the log files either..

Last nights log is interesting in that at 1am it claims to be starting 
incremental backups..

2010-01-21 01:00:01 Started incr backup on g2disun (pid=31638, share=/)
2010-01-21 01:00:01 Started incr backup on gantry3 (pid=31639, share=/)
2010-01-21 01:00:01 Started incr backup on delta (pid=31643, share=/)
2010-01-21 01:00:04 Started incr backup on gantry2 (pid=31675, share=/)
2010-01-21 01:00:09 Started incr backup on gantry3 (pid=31639, share=/usr)
2010-01-21 01:00:14 Started incr backup on gantry2 (pid=31675, share=/usr)
2010-01-21 01:00:22 Started incr backup on delta (pid=31643, share=/usr)
2010-01-21 01:00:48 Started incr backup on gantry3 (pid=31639, share=/var)
2010-01-21 01:00:48 Started incr backup on delta (pid=31643, share=/export)
2010-01-21 01:00:53 Started incr backup on gantry2 (pid=31675, share=/var)

Then, 2 hours later..

2010-01-21 03:51:12 Started full backup on gantry2 (pid=489, share=/)
2010-01-21 03:52:19 Started full backup on gantry2 (pid=489, share=/usr)
2010-01-21 03:57:04 Finished crabs (BackupPC_link crabs)
2010-01-21 03:58:15 Started full backup on gantry3 (pid=452, share=/export/switc
hyard)
2010-01-21 04:00:00 Next wakeup is 2010-01-21 05:00:00
2010-01-21 04:04:54 Started full backup on gantry3 (pid=452, share=/export/ingre
s_back)
2010-01-21 04:04:58 Finished full backup on gantry3
2010-01-21 04:04:58 Running BackupPC_link gantry3 (pid=569)
2010-01-21 04:04:59 Started full backup on ebl-recovery (pid=571, share=/)
2010-01-21 04:05:04 Finished gantry3 (BackupPC_link gantry3)
2010-01-21 04:05:06 Backup failed on ebl-recovery (Unable to read 4 bytes)
2010-01-21 04:05:09 Started full backup on g1imgreg (pid=579, share=/)
2010-01-21 04:11:13 Started full backup on gantry2 (pid=489, share=/var)
2010-01-21 04:12:07 Started full backup on gantry2 (pid=489, share=/export/gantr
y2)


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Tino Schwarze
Hi Don,

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:49:28PM -0800, Don Krause wrote:
 
 On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Craig Barratt wrote:
 
  Don writes:
  
  The numbered directories are gone. I only have 0 from last nights 
  backup, which is 0.3 days old, and it replaced the one from the day 
  before..
  
  Please look in the host's LOG file.  Do you see messages like:
  
 2005-02-06 11:20:55 removing old full backup 0
  
  If not, then it appears something other than BackupPC is
  removing or trashing the files.
  
  If so, then BackupPC is removing the backups, and the only
  explanation I can think of is the $Conf{FullKeepCnt} ends
  up being 0.  Could you have a syntax error in your main or
  per-PC config.pl files?  Eg: try running this:
  
 perl PATH_TO_MAIN_CONFIG/config.pl
 perl PATH_TO_PER_HOST_CONFIG/config.pl
  
  Craig
  
 
 
 llupbt2:/export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib # perl /etc/BackupPC/config.pl
 llupbt2:/export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib # perl /etc/BackupPC/pc/calib.pl 
 llupbt2:/export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib # 
 
 No instances of removing in the log files either..
 
 Last nights log is interesting in that at 1am it claims to be starting 
 incremental backups..
 
 2010-01-21 01:00:01 Started incr backup on g2disun (pid=31638, share=/)
 2010-01-21 01:00:01 Started incr backup on gantry3 (pid=31639, share=/)
 2010-01-21 01:00:01 Started incr backup on delta (pid=31643, share=/)
 2010-01-21 01:00:04 Started incr backup on gantry2 (pid=31675, share=/)
 2010-01-21 01:00:09 Started incr backup on gantry3 (pid=31639, share=/usr)
 2010-01-21 01:00:14 Started incr backup on gantry2 (pid=31675, share=/usr)
 2010-01-21 01:00:22 Started incr backup on delta (pid=31643, share=/usr)
 2010-01-21 01:00:48 Started incr backup on gantry3 (pid=31639, share=/var)
 2010-01-21 01:00:48 Started incr backup on delta (pid=31643, share=/export)
 2010-01-21 01:00:53 Started incr backup on gantry2 (pid=31675, share=/var)
 
 Then, 2 hours later..
 
 2010-01-21 03:51:12 Started full backup on gantry2 (pid=489, share=/)
 2010-01-21 03:52:19 Started full backup on gantry2 (pid=489, share=/usr)
 2010-01-21 03:57:04 Finished crabs (BackupPC_link crabs)
 2010-01-21 03:58:15 Started full backup on gantry3 (pid=452, 
 share=/export/switc
 hyard)
 2010-01-21 04:00:00 Next wakeup is 2010-01-21 05:00:00
 2010-01-21 04:04:54 Started full backup on gantry3 (pid=452, 
 share=/export/ingre
 s_back)
 2010-01-21 04:04:58 Finished full backup on gantry3
 2010-01-21 04:04:58 Running BackupPC_link gantry3 (pid=569)
 2010-01-21 04:04:59 Started full backup on ebl-recovery (pid=571, share=/)
 2010-01-21 04:05:04 Finished gantry3 (BackupPC_link gantry3)
 2010-01-21 04:05:06 Backup failed on ebl-recovery (Unable to read 4 bytes)
 2010-01-21 04:05:09 Started full backup on g1imgreg (pid=579, share=/)
 2010-01-21 04:11:13 Started full backup on gantry2 (pid=489, share=/var)
 2010-01-21 04:12:07 Started full backup on gantry2 (pid=489, 
 share=/export/gantr
 y2)

My bets are on something or someone is wiping your directories.
Try disabling backups for this night, then see what it looks like the
next day. I suppose, the directories will look pretty virgin.

Maybe run a cronjob which does an 
ls -l /export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib  /tmp/watchit.`date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S`
every minute just to get an idea what's going on.

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[BackupPC-users] Yet another offsite backup question. how to do the restore?

2010-01-21 Thread dstahl

First of all my thanks and apologies to Adam Goryachev for responding so 
quickly. For some reason when I looked at the forum I didn't see any replies 
until just recently. Perhaps something was wrong in the email list to forum 
routing. 
  Anyway, here goes

 I would think the *install* of backuppc doesn't modify any content of
 the data directories. However, running the newly installed backuppc
 would eventually run the nightly script, which would expire (delete) a
 heap of old backups (because your config was not what you wanted). Once
 those backups are expired, the nightly script would then prune the
 pool/cpool and remove all the files that are no longer needed by your
 backups, in the process renaming some pool files where files with
 colisions have been removed etc... 

this is exactly right. It wasn't that the install was changing data, it was 
when backuppc offsite server woke up and started removing old backups which 
then modified pool/cpool. hence almost full rsyncs instead of incremental. 

 Why do you need 6TB of space? Do you mean you need 3TB to store your
 backups, and another 3TB for a single copy of all your data (the restore
 tar)? Or is there a temp file created somewhere that needs 3TB? 

yes because I need a place to store this full restore. Which ideally would be 
another server brought over and put on that lan. I could do this fine from the 
gui, but had issues doing it via command line piping to ssh in my lab. Looks 
like it requires a ton of memory.
 
 There is perhaps one scenario you are not protecting against, which is
 sabotage/hacking/etc. ie, an Internal or external agent manages to rm
 - -rf your local backup machine and/or one or more servers on the LAN.
 Will your remote rsync replicate this data destruction. leaving you with
 no backups? ie, the malicious person does the deed at 2am, and your
 rsync runs at 3am... will someone notice in time to stop the rsync and
 save your final copy of the data?
 

Definitely not accounting for this scenario. yet. and that is a good point. And 
one that I will think about addressing next. 

So your reply really got me thinking about what I really need here. I need a 
backuppc install that is running read-only. More specifically I believe what I 
would need is to have the nightly script disabled. (the one that wakes up and 
removes old backups,prunes cpool/pool).

I have yet to dig deep into how this could be done. But I welcome any 
suggestions. I will of course update this forum posting if I figure it out. 
And again thankyou Adam Goryachev and Shawn Perry for your replies

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Don Krause

On Jan 21, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Tino Schwarze wrote:

 Hi Don,
 
 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:49:28PM -0800, Don Krause wrote:
 
 On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Craig Barratt wrote:
 
 Don writes:
 
 The numbered directories are gone. I only have 0 from last nights 
 backup, which is 0.3 days old, and it replaced the one from the day 
 before..
 
 Please look in the host's LOG file.  Do you see messages like:
 
   2005-02-06 11:20:55 removing old full backup 0
 
 If not, then it appears something other than BackupPC is
 removing or trashing the files.
 
 If so, then BackupPC is removing the backups, and the only
 explanation I can think of is the $Conf{FullKeepCnt} ends
 up being 0.  Could you have a syntax error in your main or
 per-PC config.pl files?  Eg: try running this:
 
   perl PATH_TO_MAIN_CONFIG/config.pl
   perl PATH_TO_PER_HOST_CONFIG/config.pl
 
 Craig
 
 
 
 llupbt2:/export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib # perl /etc/BackupPC/config.pl
 llupbt2:/export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib # perl /etc/BackupPC/pc/calib.pl 
 llupbt2:/export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib # 
 
 No instances of removing in the log files either..
 
 Last nights log is interesting in that at 1am it claims to be starting 
 incremental backups..
 
 2010-01-21 01:00:01 Started incr backup on g2disun (pid=31638, share=/)
 2010-01-21 01:00:01 Started incr backup on gantry3 (pid=31639, share=/)
 2010-01-21 01:00:01 Started incr backup on delta (pid=31643, share=/)
 2010-01-21 01:00:04 Started incr backup on gantry2 (pid=31675, share=/)
 2010-01-21 01:00:09 Started incr backup on gantry3 (pid=31639, share=/usr)
 2010-01-21 01:00:14 Started incr backup on gantry2 (pid=31675, share=/usr)
 2010-01-21 01:00:22 Started incr backup on delta (pid=31643, share=/usr)
 2010-01-21 01:00:48 Started incr backup on gantry3 (pid=31639, share=/var)
 2010-01-21 01:00:48 Started incr backup on delta (pid=31643, share=/export)
 2010-01-21 01:00:53 Started incr backup on gantry2 (pid=31675, share=/var)
 
 Then, 2 hours later..
 
 2010-01-21 03:51:12 Started full backup on gantry2 (pid=489, share=/)
 2010-01-21 03:52:19 Started full backup on gantry2 (pid=489, share=/usr)
 2010-01-21 03:57:04 Finished crabs (BackupPC_link crabs)
 2010-01-21 03:58:15 Started full backup on gantry3 (pid=452, 
 share=/export/switc
 hyard)
 2010-01-21 04:00:00 Next wakeup is 2010-01-21 05:00:00
 2010-01-21 04:04:54 Started full backup on gantry3 (pid=452, 
 share=/export/ingre
 s_back)
 2010-01-21 04:04:58 Finished full backup on gantry3
 2010-01-21 04:04:58 Running BackupPC_link gantry3 (pid=569)
 2010-01-21 04:04:59 Started full backup on ebl-recovery (pid=571, share=/)
 2010-01-21 04:05:04 Finished gantry3 (BackupPC_link gantry3)
 2010-01-21 04:05:06 Backup failed on ebl-recovery (Unable to read 4 bytes)
 2010-01-21 04:05:09 Started full backup on g1imgreg (pid=579, share=/)
 2010-01-21 04:11:13 Started full backup on gantry2 (pid=489, share=/var)
 2010-01-21 04:12:07 Started full backup on gantry2 (pid=489, 
 share=/export/gantr
 y2)
 
 My bets are on something or someone is wiping your directories.
 Try disabling backups for this night, then see what it looks like the
 next day. I suppose, the directories will look pretty virgin.
 
 Maybe run a cronjob which does an 
 ls -l /export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib  /tmp/watchit.`date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S`
 every minute just to get an idea what's going on.
 
 Tino.
 


I'll try that. It's very strange...

Thanks Much!
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Don Krause   








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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups vanish nightly...

2010-01-21 Thread Don Krause
Will do..

On Jan 21, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Shawn Perry wrote:

 and touch a file in there with the current date/time while you're at it.
 
 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Tino Schwarze backuppc.li...@tisc.de wrote:
 Hi Don,
 
 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:49:28PM -0800, Don Krause wrote:
 
 On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Craig Barratt wrote:
 
 Don writes:
 
 The numbered directories are gone. I only have 0 from last nights 
 backup, which is 0.3 days old, and it replaced the one from the day 
 before..
 
 Please look in the host's LOG file.  Do you see messages like:
 
2005-02-06 11:20:55 removing old full backup 0
 
 If not, then it appears something other than BackupPC is
 removing or trashing the files.
 
 If so, then BackupPC is removing the backups, and the only
 explanation I can think of is the $Conf{FullKeepCnt} ends
 up being 0.  Could you have a syntax error in your main or
 per-PC config.pl files?  Eg: try running this:
 
perl PATH_TO_MAIN_CONFIG/config.pl
perl PATH_TO_PER_HOST_CONFIG/config.pl
 
 Craig
 
 
 
 llupbt2:/export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib # perl /etc/BackupPC/config.pl
 llupbt2:/export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib # perl /etc/BackupPC/pc/calib.pl
 llupbt2:/export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib #
 
 No instances of removing in the log files either..
 
 Last nights log is interesting in that at 1am it claims to be starting 
 incremental backups..
 
 2010-01-21 01:00:01 Started incr backup on g2disun (pid=31638, share=/)
 2010-01-21 01:00:01 Started incr backup on gantry3 (pid=31639, share=/)
 2010-01-21 01:00:01 Started incr backup on delta (pid=31643, share=/)
 2010-01-21 01:00:04 Started incr backup on gantry2 (pid=31675, share=/)
 2010-01-21 01:00:09 Started incr backup on gantry3 (pid=31639, share=/usr)
 2010-01-21 01:00:14 Started incr backup on gantry2 (pid=31675, share=/usr)
 2010-01-21 01:00:22 Started incr backup on delta (pid=31643, share=/usr)
 2010-01-21 01:00:48 Started incr backup on gantry3 (pid=31639, share=/var)
 2010-01-21 01:00:48 Started incr backup on delta (pid=31643, share=/export)
 2010-01-21 01:00:53 Started incr backup on gantry2 (pid=31675, share=/var)
 
 Then, 2 hours later..
 
 2010-01-21 03:51:12 Started full backup on gantry2 (pid=489, share=/)
 2010-01-21 03:52:19 Started full backup on gantry2 (pid=489, share=/usr)
 2010-01-21 03:57:04 Finished crabs (BackupPC_link crabs)
 2010-01-21 03:58:15 Started full backup on gantry3 (pid=452, 
 share=/export/switc
 hyard)
 2010-01-21 04:00:00 Next wakeup is 2010-01-21 05:00:00
 2010-01-21 04:04:54 Started full backup on gantry3 (pid=452, 
 share=/export/ingre
 s_back)
 2010-01-21 04:04:58 Finished full backup on gantry3
 2010-01-21 04:04:58 Running BackupPC_link gantry3 (pid=569)
 2010-01-21 04:04:59 Started full backup on ebl-recovery (pid=571, share=/)
 2010-01-21 04:05:04 Finished gantry3 (BackupPC_link gantry3)
 2010-01-21 04:05:06 Backup failed on ebl-recovery (Unable to read 4 bytes)
 2010-01-21 04:05:09 Started full backup on g1imgreg (pid=579, share=/)
 2010-01-21 04:11:13 Started full backup on gantry2 (pid=489, share=/var)
 2010-01-21 04:12:07 Started full backup on gantry2 (pid=489, 
 share=/export/gantr
 y2)
 
 My bets are on something or someone is wiping your directories.
 Try disabling backups for this night, then see what it looks like the
 next day. I suppose, the directories will look pretty virgin.
 
 Maybe run a cronjob which does an
 ls -l /export/facility/BackupPC/pc/calib  /tmp/watchit.`date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S`
 every minute just to get an idea what's going on.
 
 Tino.
 
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