Re: [BackupPC-users] cannot get backuppc to wol a client
On Sat, 2011-09-03 at 17:14 -0500, Robert E. Wooden wrote: Tim, what OS is your BackupPC running on? Ubuntu 11.04 32bit -- Tim Fletcher t...@night-shade.org.uk -- Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! And you'll get a free Love Thy Logs t-shirt when you download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] cannot get backuppc to wol a client
On Sat, 2011-09-03 at 22:33 +0100, Tim Fletcher wrote: And change the pingcmd for the hosts to the following line: I should also say that this relies on the fact the backuppc once a host has settled only pings a host just before trying to back it up. Also I should have mentioned that you need to crank up the pingtimeout setting on backuppc if you are using this wake up method. -- Tim Fletcher t...@night-shade.org.uk -- Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! And you'll get a free Love Thy Logs t-shirt when you download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] excluding files from backup
It's set to :
$Conf{BackupFilesOnly} = {};
My file count / reuse summary is basically not changed (which I would expect
some numbers to drop) in the web admin for the machine's latest backup.
In the latest xfer log for this morning, just a SMALL sampling:
create d 755 0/0 0 System Volume Information
create d 755 0/0 0 temp
create d 755 0/0 0 TempEI4
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$968930Uinstall_KB968930$
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$968930Uinstall_KB968930$/spuninst
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$hf_mig$
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$hf_mig$/KB2079403
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$hf_mig$/KB2079403/SP3QFE
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$hf_mig$/KB2079403/update
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$hf_mig$/KB2115168
pool 644 0/0 30216 WINDOWS/Prefetch/MOFCOMP.EXE-01718E95.pf
pool 644 0/0 55314 WINDOWS/Prefetch/MRT.EXE-1B4A8D49.pf
pool 644 0/07844 WINDOWS/Prefetch/MRTSTUB.EXE-0574A4ED.pf
create 644 0/0 110134 WINDOWS/Prefetch/MSACCESS.EXE-175F0AD1.pf
pool 644 0/0 171224 WINDOWS/Prefetch/MSCORSVW.EXE-1366B4F5.pf
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Re: [BackupPC-users] excluding files from backup
SSzretter schrieb:
It's set to :
$Conf{BackupFilesOnly} = {};
My file count / reuse summary is basically not changed (which I would expect
some numbers to drop) in the web admin for the machine's latest backup.
In the latest xfer log for this morning, just a SMALL sampling:
create d 755 0/0 0 System Volume Information
create d 755 0/0 0 temp
create d 755 0/0 0 TempEI4
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$968930Uinstall_KB968930$
create d 755 0/0 0
WINDOWS/$968930Uinstall_KB968930$/spuninst
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$hf_mig$
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$hf_mig$/KB2079403
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$hf_mig$/KB2079403/SP3QFE
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$hf_mig$/KB2079403/update
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$hf_mig$/KB2115168
pool 644 0/0 30216 WINDOWS/Prefetch/MOFCOMP.EXE-01718E95.pf
pool 644 0/0 55314 WINDOWS/Prefetch/MRT.EXE-1B4A8D49.pf
pool 644 0/07844 WINDOWS/Prefetch/MRTSTUB.EXE-0574A4ED.pf
create 644 0/0 110134 WINDOWS/Prefetch/MSACCESS.EXE-175F0AD1.pf
pool 644 0/0 171224 WINDOWS/Prefetch/MSCORSVW.EXE-1366B4F5.pf
I don't see any context in your mail.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Upgrade BackupPC 2.1.2 to 3.2.1
Hi,
I have now updated to 3.2.1 and have (at least) one issue.
On the Status-Page in the GUI I see the following:
# Other info:
...
* Pool is 0.00GB comprising files and directories (as of 2011-09-04 15:47),
* Pool hashing gives repeated files with longest chain ,
* Nightly cleanup removed 0 files of size 0.00GB (around 2011-09-04 15:47),
* Pool file system was recently at 38% (2011-09-04 15:39), today's max is
38% (2011-09-04 15:06) and yesterday's max was %.
As you can see it says that the Pool is 0.00GB. This can not be correct as
there are data in the pool and I can do a restore. Even after a backup does it
say 0.00GB.
Any suggestions on what could be wrong?
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On Sunday 04 September 2011 00.23:03 Holger Parplies wrote:
Hi,
Dan Johansson wrote on 2011-09-03 11:04:22 +0200 [[BackupPC-users] Upgrade
BackupPC 2.1.2 to 3.2.1]:
In Gentoo BackupPC 3.2.1 has just gone stable and I want to upgrade from
2.1.2, and have some questions.
Will 3.2.1 use the same configfiles as 2.1.2 (do I have to rewrite all my
configfiles)?
yes (no). Though there are some new variables in config.pl, so you might
want or need to merge your local changes into the new config.pl.
Will 3.2.1 use the same filesystem structure as 2.1.2 (can I restor a
file backed up with 2.1.2 with 3.2.1)?
Yes (yes).
Are there some gotchas with this upgrade?
In general, if you've installed a distribution package of BackupPC, it's up
to the package to handle upgrades (you *did* previously install version
2.1.2 from a package, too, right?).
As far as the upstream BackupPC code is concerned, there should be no
issues with the upgrade. For the Gentoo package, I have no idea. In
theory, it *could* introduce problems (like moving the pool location;
however, with 3.2.1 you could just set $Conf{TopDir} in config.pl to work
around that). If you want a definite answer, you'll have to ask in a
Gentoo forum (or, of course, read the source ;-).
Regards,
Holger
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[BackupPC-users] excluding files from backup
It's set to :
$Conf{BackupFilesOnly} = {};
My file count / reuse summary is basically not changed (which I would expect
some numbers to drop) in the web admin for the machine's latest backup.
In the latest xfer log for this morning, just a SMALL sampling:
create d 755 0/0 0 System Volume Information
create d 755 0/0 0 temp
create d 755 0/0 0 TempEI4
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$968930Uinstall_KB968930$
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$968930Uinstall_KB968930$/spuninst
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$hf_mig$
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$hf_mig$/KB2079403
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$hf_mig$/KB2079403/SP3QFE
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$hf_mig$/KB2079403/update
create d 755 0/0 0 WINDOWS/$hf_mig$/KB2115168
pool 644 0/0 30216 WINDOWS/Prefetch/MOFCOMP.EXE-01718E95.pf
pool 644 0/0 55314 WINDOWS/Prefetch/MRT.EXE-1B4A8D49.pf
pool 644 0/0 7844 WINDOWS/Prefetch/MRTSTUB.EXE-0574A4ED.pf
create 644 0/0 110134 WINDOWS/Prefetch/MSACCESS.EXE-175F0AD1.pf
pool 644 0/0 171224 WINDOWS/Prefetch/MSCORSVW.EXE-1366B4F5.pf
SSzretter wrote on 2011-08-31 13:37:13 -0400 [[BackupPC-users] excluding files
from backup]:
After further investigation, I believe my file exclusions are not working in
backuppc. I checked some random machine transfer logs and I see lots of
entries for /WINDOWS/...
In my config.pl this (and other) directories should be exuded. I am using
SMB to do backups (xp machines mostly):
Do I need anything besides this: ?
--- reply:
err, beside the question mark?
You need to not have set BackupFilesOnly. What does your log file say?
Regards,
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Upgrade BackupPC 2.1.2 to 3.2.1
On Sunday 04 September 2011 16:04:16 Dan Johansson wrote: I have now updated to 3.2.1 and have (at least) one issue. On the Status-Page in the GUI I see the following: # Other info: ... * Pool is 0.00GB comprising files and directories (as of 2011-09-04 15:47), * Pool hashing gives repeated files with longest chain , * Nightly cleanup removed 0 files of size 0.00GB (around 2011-09-04 15:47), * Pool file system was recently at 38% (2011-09-04 15:39), today's max is 38% (2011-09-04 15:06) and yesterday's max was %. As you can see it says that the Pool is 0.00GB. This can not be correct as there are data in the pool and I can do a restore. Even after a backup does it say 0.00GB. Any suggestions on what could be wrong? The statistics you see are from the BackupPC_nightly run. Could be some internal format has changed there. If you updated just this morning and then checked backup/restore, the nightly statistics wheren't done yet. Wait a day and these should be okay too. Or you are mixing compressed and uncompressed pool statistics. Have fun, Arnold signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! And you'll get a free Love Thy Logs t-shirt when you download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] first full never completes
+1. This was the exact point I was trying to make. As an additional point to the original poster: you said somethng like OK, I'll start over, but with my original config and pool.. NO!!! Start with a 100% clean setup. Make it work, and document EVERY LITTLE THING you do to make that happen. THEN start making SMALL configuration changes, again documenting along the way. It's better to start from success and make small changes than to start from failure. With failure, you have no way of knowing if the changes you're making are having any effect... Timothy J. Massey Out of the Box Solutions Inc. Sent from my iPad On Sep 3, 2011, at 11:47 PM, Jeffrey J. Kosowsky backu...@kosowsky.org wrote: hans...@gmail.com wrote at about 14:18:41 +0700 on Saturday, September 3, 2011: On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Timothy J Massey tmas...@obscorp.comwrote: But would probably be a very good idea. What would be an even better idea would be to grab a spare PC (or a virtual guest) and test it from a completely clean installation. And document the *heck* out of what you do: you *will* be doing it again (and again and again). Well the whole thing is a test system, and I'm not that concerned with figuring out what went wrong vs moving forward, so I guess I'll just wipe and restart with a clean OS. Since I want to use the BackupPC 3.1 package (eventual production system will be on CentOS5), while I'm at it I'll use the Ubuntu version it's designed for, Lucid 10.04, rather than the latest Natty 11.04. Hopefully will eliminate the problems I'm seeing un/re- installing from the package system. I plan to keep the pool folders and of course my long-tweaked config.pl, but will start off from the clean install with as close to defaults as possible with a small static target share to test with, then make the changes a little at a time only after I've got the basics working right. Which as you say I should've done from the start. . . In the meantime there are a few unanswered questions in the thread above if anyone has the information to ontribute more detailed responses I'm sure it will help others googling later on. . . Just a piece of friendly advice... you seem to have posted dozens of posts in the past 24 hours or so... you keep making multiple, often non-standard or nonsensical changes to a standard configuration... and are asking multiple questions as you dig yourself deeper. Why don't you pursue this in a rational and organized approach? Get the basic system working with no modifications. Verify that it works, play with it, and get comfortable with the default setup and behaviors. Then step-by-step make one change at a time. If the change works as expected, then move on to the next change. If it doesn't then you know the exact source of the problem and can either troubleshoot it yourself (ideal) or ask a specific question to the list. What you are doing now is confusing yourself and probably most of the readers of the list. Pretty soon people will get tired of answering you or will lose track of all the questions and changes you have made meaning that they won't be around to help you when you really need it. Thanks -- Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! And you'll get a free Love Thy Logs t-shirt when you download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ -- Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! And you'll get a free Love Thy Logs t-shirt when you download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] first full never completes
This is my last reply to this thread. Explained below: hans...@gmail.com wrote on 09/04/2011 01:41:57 AM: (I didn't realize BPC permissions could vary from one distro to another). Snip Re OS choices, I don't have the access, knowledge or desire to do my initial learning/experimentation in the production CentOS CLI environment; for many aspects it's so much easier to work with a distro like Ubuntu at this stage. Once I'm confident I've got the BPC side of things working just right, the CentOS guy can set up the production server however he likes. So, you understand that each distribution is going to set things up differently, which is very likely to contribute to future problems, yet you decide to voluntarily deal with such problems. All of this after stating that you do not have sufficient skills to even know when you *might* be running into problems. My time is too valuable to put band-aids on people who after being told not to run with scissors (and acknowledge the stupidity of running with scissors), insist on doing it (again). My ultimate goal is to have a self-contained BackupPC HDD - conf and log physically under TOPDIR - which in the event of a disaster can be mounted to a new host running an arbitrary distro, possibly needing to be created by a staffer even more ignorant of Linux than myself supported by a step-by-step howto. Ideally I'd like to figure out how to create a customized BackupPC LiveCD that could be stored with the drive(s) offsite. But seeing as I'm already replying to this one, I will add one more thing (and not politely, because I'm annoyed): Your solution demonstrates what is to me a pretty fundamental misunderstanding of the role of a backup server. You want to dangle a hard drive onto a production server, put BackupPC on that server and consider that a backup? This is wrong on *SO* many levels. It's the wrong configuration, it's the wrong tool and it's serving a purpose that makes almost no sense. Why would you create a solution such that when one system fails, you risk losing both the production data AND THE BACKUP DATA all at the same time. Imagine a power supply failure. Couldn't it take out both hard drives? Sure can. How about a malicious user that runs rm -rf /. Gonna wipe out the backup data too. I can come up with a DOZEN scenarios with zero effort. If a 35% solution works for you, great. But most people would usually prefer a more useful one. These goals also support my doing the learning/configuration work on an alternative distro. Ah, but your backwards of accomplishing this does not encourage at least me to help you in the least. *You* may want to learn all those differences, but I sure do not want to waste my time teaching them to you. Why should I? This is not a new-linux-traning list. It's the BackupPC list. Yet you, in your ignorance, *will* make the rest of us teach you just because you cannot identify the difference between a new-linux-user mistake and a new-BackupPC-user mistake. That happens every day around here. BUT YOU ARE INTENTIONALLY MAKING THE PROBLEM WORSE, even AFTER we have told you NOT TO! So you are on your own. After all, you have the source. Feel free to use it. But for now, I am starting from scratch with 3.1 on Lucid, working step by step in departing from the defaults, testing and keeping careful notes in case I need to come back here with further issues, so as not to waste you guys' time further. Too late. Timothy J. Massey Out of the Box Solutions, Inc. Creative IT Solutions Made Simple! http://www.OutOfTheBoxSolutions.com tmas...@obscorp.com 22108 Harper Ave. St. Clair Shores, MI 48080 Office: (800)750-4OBS (4627) Cell: (586)945-8796 -- Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! And you'll get a free Love Thy Logs t-shirt when you download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Upgrade BackupPC 2.1.2 to 3.2.1
Dan Johansson dan.johans...@dmj.nu wrote on 09/04/2011 10:04:16 AM: As you can see it says that the Pool is 0.00GB. This can not be correct as there are data in the pool and I can do a restore. Even after a backup does it say 0.00GB. Has BackupPC_nightly run yet? (It runs at the time each day of the first hour listed in the Wakeup variable). An easier question: is it past 24 hours since you completed the upgrade? The statistics are part of the nightly run, IIRC. Timothy J. Massey Out of the Box Solutions, Inc. Creative IT Solutions Made Simple! http://www.OutOfTheBoxSolutions.com tmas...@obscorp.com 22108 Harper Ave. St. Clair Shores, MI 48080 Office: (800)750-4OBS (4627) Cell: (586)945-8796 -- Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! And you'll get a free Love Thy Logs t-shirt when you download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Getting backuppc to wol a client
I have occasionally tried to get BackupPC to wol my clients. This weekend I got serious thanks to some activity on this forum. Here is what I have got working this weekend. I discovered this post: /http://blog.chameeya.com/2011/08/backuppc-and-waking-machines.html / I read through this article and it is so simple I had to try it. And, it just works so now, I am saving energy and my family (specifically my wife) is happier. To further save energy, I set up my router (dd-wrt) to wake the BackupPC machine. What can I say, it just feels good, too!! -- Robert Wooden Nashville, TN. USA Computer Freedom? . . . Linux -- Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! And you'll get a free Love Thy Logs t-shirt when you download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] first full never completes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/09/11 08:36, hans...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 5:03 AM, hans...@gmail.com mailto:hans...@gmail.com wrote: This time I'm planning to delete the backuppc user Is anything more than removing the line from /etc/passwd required for this? as well as: /var/lib/backuppc /etc/backuppc /var/log/backuppc /usr/share/backuppc I haven't been able to respond until now, and I know most of this has been resolved by now, but I thought I'd respond anyway... (my phone email address isn't allowed to post messages). I think the answer to most of this might have been: apt-get --purge remove backuppc This should remove every trace of the package ever having been installed. I only mention this because it might come in handy in the future for you. In addition, you do realise that every distribution of linux can be installed with, or without, the graphical user interface (X Windows + window manager/etc). In fact, you could even install and setup your server with it installed and then un-install it later, or vice-versa Linux (and generally most distributions) are quite flexible. Good luck with your learning curve, and try to take smaller steps :) Regards, Adam - -- Adam Goryachev Website Managers www.websitemanagers.com.au -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5kD2QACgkQGyoxogrTyiXv7gCfTDzZNGut7rsLTA2QL+No25Tr iDgAoLTrkJgCl2V8pTpNNhm+Is9xjf9Y =b3Rb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! And you'll get a free Love Thy Logs t-shirt when you download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Getting backuppc to wol a client
Hi, Robert E. Wooden wrote on 2011-09-04 15:41:44 -0500 [[BackupPC-users] Getting backuppc to wol a client]: I have occasionally tried to get BackupPC to wol my clients. [...] To further save energy, I set up my router (dd-wrt) to wake the BackupPC machine. saving energy is a fine thing, and I don't want to discourage that in any way, but there are two questions that spring to my mind: 1. Is BackupPC_nightly getting a chance to run (regularly)? 2. Supposing you are automatically shutting down your BackupPC server, how do you make sure you are doing that when everything is idle? In particular, if the first backup attempt ever fails, will BackupPC get a chance to retry, or will you miss a backup that day? Regards, Holger -- Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! And you'll get a free Love Thy Logs t-shirt when you download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] first full never completes
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Adam Goryachev mailingli...@websitemanagers.com.au wrote: I think the answer to most of this might have been: apt-get --purge remove backuppc This should remove every trace of the package ever having been installed. I only mention this because it might come in handy in the future for you. In addition, you do realise that every distribution of linux can be installed with, or without, the graphical user interface (X Windows + window manager/etc). In fact, you could even install and setup your server with it installed and then un-install it later, or vice-versa Adam, Thanks so much for your helpful message and especially for your forbearance and encouragement. Yes, I do, and I have been playing around over the years with Fedora/CentOS a bit, but have found the learning curve just a bit less steep on the Debian-esque distros and therefore built up a bit more experience there. Since my learning objectives are aimed at BackupPC for now, I wanted to eliminate as many roadblocks as I could. The fact that a post-disaster recovery scenario would most likely involve relatively untrained people was also a factor. If a recovery server could be provided via a customized BackupPC LiveCD, that would greatly improve the resilience and time-to-recover of our DR plan, and (again my perception is) that there is a great variety of user-friendly tools for building LiveCD custom distros in Debian/Ubuntu than Fedora/CentOS. All of which I recognize is down-the-road pie-in-the-sky pipe-dreaming from my current state of knowledge. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Timothy J Massey tmas...@obscorp.com wrote: +1. This was the exact point I was trying to make. As an additional point to the original poster: you said somethng like OK, I'll start over, but with my original config and pool.. NO!!! Start with a 100% clean setup. Make it work, and document EVERY LITTLE THING you do to I just meant I'd keep them when wiping the drive. In the case of the config.pl, for later reference - I'm using diff tools to check against the original, changing one parameter at a time and then testing. Re the cpool, initial experiments start empty with it empty testing against a small test dirstruc, but once I start working again on the real system drive excludes, pre-populating that to save unnecessarily waiting for 18GB back over the wire. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Timothy J Massey tmas...@obscorp.com wrote: So, you understand that each distribution is going to set things up differently, which is very likely to contribute to future problems, yet you decide to voluntarily deal with such problems. All of this after stating that you do not have sufficient skills to even know when you *might* be running into problems. I plan on experimenting with my advanced goals only after the actual backups are working successfully, leaving that setup alone and working with a separate test system. And I do think I have (or am developing) the skills to be able to see when things are going wrong. Such testing is how I like to learn, pushing the envelope of what's possible. You want to dangle a hard drive onto a production server, put BackupPC on that server and consider that a backup? This is wrong on *SO* many levels. It's the wrong configuration, it's the wrong tool and it's serving a purpose that makes almost no sense. Sorry if I wasn't more clear. I didn't mean a production server in the sense of adding BackupPC to a server fullfilling another function, I meant the production BackupPC server, the one actually doing real backups, as opposed to my testing environment. Why would you create a solution such that when one system fails, you risk losing both the production data AND THE BACKUP DATA all at the same time. Imagine a power supply failure. Couldn't it take out both hard drives? Sure can. How about a malicious user that runs rm -rf /. Gonna wipe out the backup data too. I can come up with a DOZEN scenarios with zero effort. I don't understand how you get that, in fact I think the opposite. That would be true if I were relying on RAID, leaving my multiple drives in sync with each other, but in fact the three drives in rotation will each be completely independent instances - here's the link to my original post asking for feedback on that: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.backup.backuppc.general/27289 If a 35% solution works for you, great. But most people would usually prefer a more useful one. Of course if I'm given solid details on why my scheme shouldn't work I won't implement it. Of if I thought it necessary, we could implement this scheme *in addition* to a traditional static instance of BackupPC, but at this point I believe that would only be necessary once sufficient history won't fit on a single large drive. In which case the offsite rotation drives would only hold a more recent subset of that stored on the big RAID array, but
Re: [BackupPC-users] first full never completes
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:41 AM, hans...@gmail.com wrote: Re packaging issues, I'm not trying to figure them out at all, AFAIC they're a black box that just works - I plan to just observe their results and stick to their policies (I didn't realize BPC permissions could vary from one distro to another). Thinking of it as a black box only works if you don't plan to make your own changes. The disto packagers modify things to fit programs into the way each distribution works, so don't expect the components to be in the same places, have the same names, owners, permissions, etc. between .deb and .rpm packages. It is up to the packager to make those decisions and they are fairly arbitrary. Re OS choices, I don't have the access, knowledge or desire to do my initial learning/experimentation in the production CentOS CLI environment; for many aspects it's so much easier to work with a distro like Ubuntu at this stage. That makes no sense at all to me. CentOS will install and work just the same as ubuntu unless you have some unusual hardware and if you want a GUI (which won't matter much for what you are doing) you can install it. The only real differences are in the package management tools and administration style and it doesn't make sense to learn/test the wrong one. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! And you'll get a free Love Thy Logs t-shirt when you download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Would a noob-oriented HowTo be useful on the wiki?
To all
I will do my best to not abuse the real generosity I have seen in the
list every day over the years by doing my best not to post unnecessary
questions or those not relevant to BackupPC.
I will also do the best I can to give back to the project to the
extent I am able to help - certainly more down the road than at the
moment.
For example - I have extremely detailed notes on my most recent
step-by-step process - which I'm happy to say is proceeding
successfully with a matched set of Ubuntu's Lucid 10.04 (current
LTS) server and its official BackupPC package, rather than mixing the
latest Natty with the older package.
These notes could easily be cleaned up into a Basic installation of
BackupPC on Ubuntu howto for Linux beginners, and I would be happy to
post that to the wiki, if TPTB on the list think it would be helpful
to the project.
On the other hand if more people feel like Tim (at least based on my
interpretation of what he wrote), perhaps you'd prefer to only
encourage people already advanced in Linux skills to implement
BackupPC? It's true having more noobs trying it out would increase the
need for support here.
In which case I won't try to encourage new adopters that don't fit that profile.
Here's a snippet of a contribution for future noob googlers - I don't
claim they're original but didn't keep the references in my notes, I
believe they did come from this list:
You can monitor the progress of a backup by opening two console
windows from the server before initiating:
watching the growth of the pc folder with du:
- watch -n 10 -d 'sudo du -h --max-depth=4
/var/lib/backuppc/pc/{host_name} |sort -h -r
and
watching the files opened by the backuppc process, matching on an
appropriate string
- watch -n 5 lsof -n -u backuppc | egrep 'cygdrive' | awk '{print }'
The latter assumes your client is windoze with the traditional
cygdrive path setup - using backuppc as your search string will give
more general results.
Let's take this opportunity to close that mega-thread, for my
excessive contributions to which I apologize.
Thanks again for your patience.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] first full never completes
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:41 AM, hans...@gmail.com wrote: Re packaging issues, I'm not trying to figure them out at all, AFAIC they're a black box that just works - I plan to just observe their results and stick to their policies (I didn't realize BPC permissions could vary from one distro to another). Thinking of it as a black box only works if you don't plan to make your own changes. The disto packagers modify things to fit programs into the way each distribution works, so don't expect the components to be in the same places, have the same names, owners, permissions, etc. between .deb and .rpm packages. It is up to the packager to make those decisions and they are fairly arbitrary. I just meant I didn't want people to waste their time helping me troubleshoot packaging-specific issues. I also don't plan on making changes beyond the symlink/mount redirection to a dedicated TOPDIR drive, which should be transparent. Re OS choices, I don't have the access, knowledge or desire to do my initial learning/experimentation in the production CentOS CLI environment; for many aspects it's so much easier to work with a distro like Ubuntu at this stage. That makes no sense at all to me. CentOS will install and work just the same as ubuntu unless you have some unusual hardware and if you want a GUI snip I meant easier *for me*, simply that I've personally climbed a littler higher up Ubuntu's learning curve, and yes I've found a GUI helpful for certain things - although I'm working with the server edition, I've installed ubuntu-desktop, but am manually bringing it up via startx only when needed. I admit it's a bit of a crutch, and I'm actively working toward learning how to do everything from the text console, as that will of course be my only option once I'm managing BackupPC in production - that environment doesn't have X at all, and in fact I won't have access to the physical console anymore. Thanks for your help Les, and if it isn't out of line I'd like to ask that we end this mega thread, I'm feeling very kreng jai toward the list and don't want to take any more of your collective time. . . -- Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! And you'll get a free Love Thy Logs t-shirt when you download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
