Re: [BackupPC-users] Permission denied at /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line 53.

2017-05-29 Thread Craig Barratt
Dieter,

It looks like your perl installation is broken somehow.  Perhaps this thread
 is helpful?

Craig

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 7:26 AM, Dieter Fauth  wrote:

> Hello everybody,
> running backuppc in a docker image (based on Ubuntu 16.04).
> Just refreshed the image with existing dockerfile to get latest fixes from
> git.
>
> At start I get this error:
> Can't locate strict.pm:   /etc/perl/strict.pm: Permission denied at
> /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line 53.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC
> line 53.
>
> The file BackupPC has not be changed in last 2 months according to git.
>
> Searching inet showed I should install libswitch-perl - did not help as I
> already assumed.
>
> Any hint is very welcome!
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Late to the Game: Upgrading from Version 3.x on Fedora 25

2017-05-29 Thread Tim Evans

On 05/28/2017 05:18 PM, Tim Evans wrote:

The UID thing took me off in the wrong direction.  The BackupPC service 
was failing to start, so, of course, the web interface wouldn't show 
anything!


Poking around in the journalctl output, I find:

May 28 13:08:56 osprey BackupPC[3990]: 2017-05-28 13:08:56 PoolV3Enabled 
is set, and can't create a test hardlink between a file in 
/raptor/pc-backups//pc and /raptor/pc-backups//cpool.  Either these are 
different file systems, or this file system doesn't support hardlinks, 
or these directories don't exist, or there is a permissions problem, or 
the file system is out of inodes or full.  Use df, df -i, and ls -ld to 
check each of these possibilities. Quitting...


Well, I'd removed the entire filetree that contained the version 3 pool 
in cleaning things up, but forgot to turn the upgrade option off in 
config.pl. (This maybe shouldn't be a fatal error?)


So, config.pl now fixed and the service is now running, as is a full 
backup of the Win 7 PC. Will report back when/if it finishes.


Thanks, again.


Today's update:  The full backup ran for just a few minutes over 24 
hours and was killed by BackupPC; log says:


2017-05-29 15:34:24 Backup failed on pelican (BackupPC_tarExtract exited 
with fail status 256)

2017-05-29 15:34:27 Started full backup on pelican (pid=15026, share=C$)

As you can see, a new full backup was kicked off almost immediately.

I've googled the "BackupPC_tarExtract exited with fail status 256" 
message and found many hits, going back to version 3 of BackupPC.  Seems 
to be a problem with Linux 'tar' extracting the incoming data.


There was a thread just a month ago (late April/early May) on this 
mailing list entitled "Multiple issues on newly installed 4.1.0" which 
discussed the apparent same issue of failing backups due to a problem in 
'tar.' In this thread, Craig Barratt wrote that he had pushed a fix to 
git for this issue. I'm guessing this hasn't yet made it into the 4.1.2 
version in the Hobbes Fedora 25 repo?


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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to backup a laptop over internet

2017-05-29 Thread Bzzzz
On Tue, 30 May 2017 09:13:14 +1000
Adam Goryachev  wrote:

> Wasn't there a recent extension to ClientNameAlias which allows
> multiple addresses to be used, which will be tried (in order), and the
> first found would run the backup?

Duno, Adam, I'm still in v.3 for production use and no time to explore
v.4 (is it now rock-stable ?); this might change when Debian Stretch
will become the new stable (around mid june ?), but I must see about
solid version migration before any change can take place.

> This seems a perfect use case for that, adding the local IP and the 
> remote IP as the two aliases, hence only a single "host" in backuppc, 
> consistent ordered backups all in one place.

This is really a nice feature, especially in this case.

> PS, this probably only applies to BPC4.x and I forget what version the 
> OP is using.

He did not state it, just that he use mageia5, which, from their site
is a fork of mandriva - might work the same as rh: one click and it
installs a hexabyte "package" with no other choice *<;-{p)

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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to backup a laptop over internet

2017-05-29 Thread Adam Goryachev

On 30/05/17 05:33, B wrote:

On Mon, 29 May 2017 20:56:01 +0200
Xuo  wrote:


Hi,

Hi Xuo,


My pc is running Mageia5.
I don't understand how a VPN connection could help solving my problem.
Could you please explain more in details ?

A VPN means either a roadwarrior (your itinerant laptop) can connect and
benefit from all machines of your LAN, or connect 2 LANs together (eg:
enterprise branches.)

This means, when you're connected to it, that your backuppc server can
reach your laptop in a secure mode (encrypted and possibly compressed
mode) as easily as if it was connected on the LAN @home.

As formerly said and because of the VPN nature (no same IP segment
messing), you'll be obliged to create 2 accounts on the server:

one with the DNS laptop name for LAN connections -
ie: mylaptop.zatiluvsomuch, let's say it == 192.168.0.25,
 (or directly 192.168.0.25 if you do not have a home DNS),

and one based on the (fixed !) VPN IP address you use when away from home
ie: 172.16.0.25.

Provided you backup daily @2000 AND your laptop is always connected at
this time whether you're home or away:

192.168.0.25 will be saved if you're @home,

172.16.0.25 will be saved when you're away from home,
Wasn't there a recent extension to ClientNameAlias which allows multiple 
addresses to be used, which will be tried (in order), and the first 
found would run the backup?
This seems a perfect use case for that, adding the local IP and the 
remote IP as the two aliases, hence only a single "host" in backuppc, 
consistent ordered backups all in one place.


PS, this probably only applies to BPC4.x and I forget what version the 
OP is using.


Regards,
Adam

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[BackupPC-users] Debugging Excludes

2017-05-29 Thread Bob Katz


  

  
Richard's suggestion for excludes did not work for me:
backuppc was not excluding my files. Dieter's suggestion for excludes
is working for me. I'm getting excludes and includes and not getting a
bunch of empty folders in the backup. My host config looks like this:
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {   '*' =>[  '**/Thecus Audio', 
'**/incremental-backup',  '**/Wordpress_Backup', 
'**/NAS_Module_Source_',  '**/FM_and_Computer_Backups',  '**/USBCopy', 
'**/_Module_Folder_',  '**/eSATAHDD',  '**/USBHDD',  '**/NAS_Public', 
'**/Time%20Machine',  '**/_NAS_Picture',  '**/iTunes_music'  ]};
However, based on googling rsync discussions, I'm betting that it will
work without the ** in front of the /  For example, from the web:
A user running rsync had his entire source directory in an exclude.txt
file:
rsync -Paz --exclude-from 'rsync-exclude.txt' /home/chris/ admin@192.16
8.1.65:LinuxHome

  where rsync-exclude.txt has this
content:

  /home/chris/Downloads/*
/home/chris/Downloads/
/home/chris/Downloads/*.*

  The response was:59down
  voteaccepted


  
The problem is
  that you are specifying complete
directory
  paths.
With rsync, all
  exclude (or include) paths beginning
with / are
  are anchored to the root of
transfer. The root of transfer in
  this case is /home/chris. 
But since you're
  just trying to sync your home directory,
  and there is no subDdirectory
of /home/chris named home/chris/Downloads,
  it ignores your exclusion.
Try removing the /home/chris parts
  from your rsync-exclude.txt file.
  

  

  

   
Similarly, I'm amazed that Dieter's suggestion of **/ is working. 
But I don't want to rock the boat and will try differently on the next
machine I set up to back up.

Best wishes,

Bob
  
  

  


  

  

  

  

  

  

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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to backup a laptop over internet

2017-05-29 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 29 May 2017 14:21:18 -0500
Les Mikesell  wrote:

Hi Les,

…
> to access the web interface.   A good starting point would be looking
> at point-to-point configurations of OpenVPN.You'll need either a
> stable IP address for your home network or at least something that
> will work with a dynamic DNS service.
 
Yup, I forgot this one !

Also note that using WireGuard instead of OpenVPN can give you an
uncommon speed (that OVPN could just dream of):

=== EXCERPT FROM WG ML (20170513)
Using the Infiniband network directly, iperf's performance is 21.7 Gbit/s
(iperf maxes out the CPU at the receiver, even when using 8 threads).

Hardware used:

- Xeon E5520 @2.27GHz (2 CPUs, 4 cores each)
- Mellanox ConnectX IB 4X QDR MT26428

Versions used:

- Debian jessie
- Linux 3.16.43-2
- Wireguard 0.0.20170421-2
- iperf 2.0.5
- Mellanox ConnectX InfiniBand driver v2.2-1
=== /EXCERPT FROM WG ML (20170513)

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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to backup a laptop over internet

2017-05-29 Thread Xuo
Thank you for the explanations. I'm currently fighting setting up an 
openVpn connection.

I'll have a close look at your proposal.

Regards.

Xuo.

Le 29/05/2017 à 21:21, Les Mikesell a écrit :

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Xuo  wrote:

Hi,
l
Thank you for the replies.
My pc is running Mageia5.
I don't understand how a VPN connection could help solving my problem. Could

Some VPNs (OpenVPN for example) can be configured to have a fixed
private IP address at the remote end, even though the connecting
public addresses will vary with your location.   If you set a
point-to-point tunnel VPN up on your laptop and your backuppc server
(or another host or the router on your home network) then backuppc can
be configured to use the end point address as its target, and if you
don't want to wait for a scheduled backup to run you can also use it
to access the web interface.   A good starting point would be looking
at point-to-point configurations of OpenVPN.You'll need either a
stable IP address for your home network or at least something that
will work with a dynamic DNS service.




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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to backup a laptop over internet

2017-05-29 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 29 May 2017 20:56:01 +0200
Xuo  wrote:

> Hi,

Hi Xuo,

> My pc is running Mageia5.
> I don't understand how a VPN connection could help solving my problem. 
> Could you please explain more in details ?

A VPN means either a roadwarrior (your itinerant laptop) can connect and
benefit from all machines of your LAN, or connect 2 LANs together (eg:
enterprise branches.)

This means, when you're connected to it, that your backuppc server can
reach your laptop in a secure mode (encrypted and possibly compressed
mode) as easily as if it was connected on the LAN @home.

As formerly said and because of the VPN nature (no same IP segment
messing), you'll be obliged to create 2 accounts on the server:

one with the DNS laptop name for LAN connections -  
ie: mylaptop.zatiluvsomuch, let's say it == 192.168.0.25,
(or directly 192.168.0.25 if you do not have a home DNS),

and one based on the (fixed !) VPN IP address you use when away from home
ie: 172.16.0.25.

Provided you backup daily @2000 AND your laptop is always connected at
this time whether you're home or away:

192.168.0.25 will be saved if you're @home,

172.16.0.25 will be saved when you're away from home,

nada will be saved, wherever you are, if you're not connected.
(although, there are rumors of the backuppc team working on a way to
backup data by telepathy, we can't give it much credits as it was issued
by the nsa - furthermore, this would imply you to read all files line by
line.)

To be short, VPN allowing a transparent connection, the only difference
with a pure LAN construction is the 2nd account needed.

> I understand the proposal from Johan Ehnberg setting 2 hosts, but I'd 
> prefer to avoid this.

You can't, or more likely, if you do so, you will enter the "dark side"
of routing (routing only part of the same IP segment), which is far from
easy, prone to (huge) errors and absolutely discouraged for beginners.
(but it can be a nice way to learn how to route correctly; if you choose
this way, make sure noting important gets out of your LAN.)

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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to backup a laptop over internet

2017-05-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Xuo  wrote:
> Hi,
> l
> Thank you for the replies.
> My pc is running Mageia5.
> I don't understand how a VPN connection could help solving my problem. Could

Some VPNs (OpenVPN for example) can be configured to have a fixed
private IP address at the remote end, even though the connecting
public addresses will vary with your location.   If you set a
point-to-point tunnel VPN up on your laptop and your backuppc server
(or another host or the router on your home network) then backuppc can
be configured to use the end point address as its target, and if you
don't want to wait for a scheduled backup to run you can also use it
to access the web interface.   A good starting point would be looking
at point-to-point configurations of OpenVPN.You'll need either a
stable IP address for your home network or at least something that
will work with a dynamic DNS service.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Debugging excludes and....

2017-05-29 Thread Dieter Fauth

Hi Bob,
can you try this:
**/FM_and_Computer_Backup
(note the two asterisks)

On Mon, 29 May 2017 14:46:27 +0200, Bob Katz  wrote:


Thanks to everyone for the help so far! Don't want to clog the list
with too many thank you notes!

I'm just getting my first backup of one computer sorted out. Method is
rsyncd.

1.  One of the excludes is not working. Its contents are showing up in
the backup. It's being done with an override for this host:


Include/ExcludeBackupFilesOnly
 OverrideNew ShareName or '*':  BackupFilesExclude
 Override/raid/FM_and_Computer_Backups



(Yes, I'm backing up a raid, but this is an essential machine and it
needs its own backup)
However, 'browse backups' is showing all the content of the excluded
directory FM_and_Computer_Backups. Here's an excerpt of 'browse
backups':

 FM_and_Computer_Backups .AppleDB .AppleDesktop .AppleDouble .Temporary
Items Computer_Disk_Images








and so on, all the way through every file that should have been
excluded. Any ideas?


2) xfer log shows that backuppc is "wasting time" listing each file in
a very large directory that is being excluded. Is that avoidable? I'm
pretty sure this directory is really excluded because there is nothing
showing in its contents in browse backups. But I also fear that the
system froze as the xfer log stopped about 2/3 of the way through
displaying this directory, which should have been excluded anyway. I
have seen rsync list excludes in a verbose list, so this behavior may
be an artifact of rsync.


3) Is it acceptable to use the shortcut %20 for a space in a file name
in an exclude? For example:

/raid/Thecus%20Audio




For the directory 'Thecus Audio".   I wonder if this is why the xfer
log is showing the system going through this directory, yet it is
supposed to be excluded?

3) Can I Override the blackout period for testing? I want to manually
continue this backup and watch its progress. In the CGI, will one of
these buttons "continue" the full backup which is active into the
blackout period? Is that possible?:

"Start Incr Backup"
"Start Full Backup"


4) Browse Backups. I can't always get it to shrink a list. The '-"
button on some directories is not working. But the master '-' button at
the top is working


Thanks for any help,











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Re: [BackupPC-users] Debugging excludes and....

2017-05-29 Thread Richard Shaw
Bob,

Here's where I'm still struggling a bit but I can give you this hint...

Those options are sparated into two parts. The share to match (where you
have already put the directory) and the files/directories to be excluded
(the add button on the right hand side which you have blank).

Also, most people on the list are used to see the raw config instead of
screen shots so for instance this is on the global config (/etc/BackupPC),
not per host config (/etc/BackupPC/pc/.pl) but my excludes are:

$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
  '*' => [
'/home/*/.cache'
  ]
};

Where "*" is the share to match, so for me that's all shares, and
"/home/*/.cache" is the patter to match for excludes.

HTH,

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[BackupPC-users] Debugging excludes and....

2017-05-29 Thread Bob Katz
Thanks to everyone for the help so far! Don't want to clog the list
with too many thank you notes!

I'm just getting my first backup of one computer sorted out. Method is
rsyncd.

1.  One of the excludes is not working. Its contents are showing up in
the backup. It's being done with an override for this host:


Include/ExcludeBackupFilesOnly 
 OverrideNew ShareName or '*':  BackupFilesExclude 
 Override/raid/FM_and_Computer_Backups 



(Yes, I'm backing up a raid, but this is an essential machine and it
needs its own backup)
However, 'browse backups' is showing all the content of the excluded
directory FM_and_Computer_Backups. Here's an excerpt of 'browse
backups':

 FM_and_Computer_Backups .AppleDB .AppleDesktop .AppleDouble .Temporary
Items Computer_Disk_Images








and so on, all the way through every file that should have been
excluded. Any ideas?


2) xfer log shows that backuppc is "wasting time" listing each file in
a very large directory that is being excluded. Is that avoidable? I'm
pretty sure this directory is really excluded because there is nothing
showing in its contents in browse backups. But I also fear that the
system froze as the xfer log stopped about 2/3 of the way through
displaying this directory, which should have been excluded anyway. I
have seen rsync list excludes in a verbose list, so this behavior may
be an artifact of rsync. 


3) Is it acceptable to use the shortcut %20 for a space in a file name
in an exclude? For example:

/raid/Thecus%20Audio




For the directory 'Thecus Audio".   I wonder if this is why the xfer
log is showing the system going through this directory, yet it is
supposed to be excluded? 

3) Can I Override the blackout period for testing? I want to manually
continue this backup and watch its progress. In the CGI, will one of
these buttons "continue" the full backup which is active into the
blackout period? Is that possible?:

"Start Incr Backup"
"Start Full Backup"


4) Browse Backups. I can't always get it to shrink a list. The '-"
button on some directories is not working. But the master '-' button at
the top is working


Thanks for any help, 








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Re: [BackupPC-users] running the BackupPC_backupDelete command

2017-05-29 Thread Dieter Fauth

Hi Bob,
that is a security feature in Linux.
The current directory is not included into the search path.
The ./ bypasses this.

On Sun, 28 May 2017 15:44:13 +0200, Bob Katz  wrote:


My question is very basic:
In order to run the BackupPC_backupDelete command I have to preface it
with ./
Why is that necessary when all the examples and Craig's transcript here
on the list show the delete command being run without any preface?
Thanks,

Bob


P.S.
Thank you for the browser-based GUI! Very nice job on the gui, Craig!
It simplifies a lot of setup. I tried doing excludes from within
config.pl and the syntax was thwarting me.





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Re: [BackupPC-users] Updated BackupPC 4 Debian Packages

2017-05-29 Thread Ludovic Drolez
Hi !

I've tried to upload the perl module and the modified rsync, but it was
automatically rejected because of the use of an embedded zlib library.

FYI, the error message:

E: backuppc-rsync: embedded-library usr/bin/rsync_bpc: zlib
N:
N:The given ELF object appears to have been statically linked to a
N:library. Doing this is strongly discouraged due to the extra
work needed
N:by the security team to fix all the extra embedded copies or
trigger the
N:package rebuilds, as appropriate.
N:


So, is it possible to use the system zlib or not for rsync and the perl
module? Is it a modified zlib?

Best regards,

Ludovic


On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:34:11PM -0700, Craig Barratt wrote:
>Ludo,
>No, rsync-bpc isn't usable without BackupPC.  Your name sounds fine
>(although it would be good to have a consistent package name across others
>flavors - are there any already?).
>No, 3.1.2 isn't ready for use.
>The main upgrade risk area is around rsync config parameters and arguments
>not being compatible between 3.x and 4.x. Configure.pl tries to
>extract $Conf{RsyncSshArgs} (a new 4.x setting) from the
>old $Conf{RsyncClientCmd} setting.
>Craig


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up Windows 7 Pro, not enough permissions

2017-05-29 Thread Tapio Lehtonen

16.05.2017, 01:32, Holger Parplies kirjoitti:

Hi,

Michael Stowe wrote on 2017-05-15 09:58:08 -0500 [Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing 
up Windows 7 Pro, not enough permissions]:

On 2017-05-15 05:20, Tapio Lehtonen wrote:

[...]
The share C is shared to network and user backuppc has full rights.
[...]


There are a few important things to understand here.  One is that not
all transport mechanisms are created equal when backing up Windows
systems.


what a nice way to say that :-).

I'm not a Windoze expert at all, but I vaguely remember you (Michael) stating
in the past that there is a difference between the default C$ share and an
explicitly created share ... assuming my memory is correct, might that be
the issue here? I.e. does anything change if you (Tapio) explicitly create
a share and use that (or use the C$ share if you were previously using
something different)?



I created a  new share Users, for users home directories. I gave 
permissions to that share to backuppc-user. That seems to have done the 
trick, now the home directories are backed up including the 
subdirectories therein.


Seems there is a difference with the pre-existing C-share and a share I 
create myself.


Now only the users home directories are backed up, not other files, but 
home directories are the important ones. I think I will do without 
backing the OS-files and installed programs.




At any rate, these reasons are why I personally switched to a
combination of rsync and vshadow (to handle open files) and put together
a package to install the proper files on the client side.


If I were in the unlucky situation of having to deal with Windoze hosts,
that is what I would use. From what I have read on this list, it seems
to be the best choice.

Regards,
Holger




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