Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.5 released (plus new versions of backuppc-xs and rsync-bpc)

[Pete Geenhuizen]

OK I'll give it a shot with the V3 config.

As far as the configure.pl script goes, it should be included since it 
is mentioned in the documentation.



On 12/18/17 11:35, Daniel Berteaud wrote:

Le 18/12/2017 à 14:08, Pete Geenhuizen a écrit :

Daniel,

I plan on upgrading from v3 to v4, and have installed your rpm on a 
test host, so this is in essence a new install.  According to the 
documentation to set up /etc/BackupPC/config.pl I need to run 
configure.pl which appears to be included in the tar file, but isn't 
in the rpm.  Is there a way to include it, or is your rpm intended to 
be a means of upgrading v3 to v4?  If that is the case then I guess 
that that should be made clear.


The default config.pl should be fine for a fresh v4 install. But 
you're right that maybe the configure.pl script should be bundled to 
handle upgrades from v3


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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.5 released (plus new versions of backuppc-xs and rsync-bpc)

[Daniel Berteaud]

Le 18/12/2017 à 14:08, Pete Geenhuizen a écrit :

Daniel,

I plan on upgrading from v3 to v4, and have installed your rpm on a 
test host, so this is in essence a new install.  According to the 
documentation to set up /etc/BackupPC/config.pl I need to run 
configure.pl which appears to be included in the tar file, but isn't 
in the rpm.  Is there a way to include it, or is your rpm intended to 
be a means of upgrading v3 to v4?  If that is the case then I guess 
that that should be made clear.


The default config.pl should be fine for a fresh v4 install. But you're 
right that maybe the configure.pl script should be bundled to handle 
upgrades from v3


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Re: [BackupPC-users] File System containing backup was too full

[Adrien Coestesquis]

Ok thanks, I will look at it if i see the notification tomorrow.
i will let you know guys !

2017-12-18 17:08 GMT+01:00 B :

> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 16:43:35 +0100
> Adrien Coestesquis  wrote:
>
> > Hey ! Indeed, it solves problems sometimes :)
> > I reboot the machine right now, and I will see tomorrow
>
> It may also be tied to another cause which appears quite silly:
> https://serverfault.com/questions/482173/is-there-any-
> other-reason-for-no-space-left-on-device
> (see comment noted 4 in middle page)
>
> This is old, but this behavior may not have been corrected since.
>
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Re: [BackupPC-users] File System containing backup was too full

[Adrien Coestesquis]

Debian 8, no disk quota.

On /dev/sda1 i have the backuppc pool with 5140GB taken
and samba shares with 4.3TB taken



2017-12-18 16:44 GMT+01:00 Stefan Peter :

> Dear Adrien Coestesquis
> On 18.12.2017 16:15, Adrien Coestesquis wrote:
> > Block count:  3906469376
>
> This does not look like the reserved block count hit the limit:
> > Reserved block count: 195323468
> > Free blocks:  1613863920
>
> The inodes look fine, too:
> > Free inodes:  476144318
> > Inode count:  488308736
>
> What system is this? Did you set any disk quota? Is there anything
> besides BackupPC living on /dev/sda1?
>
> With kind regards
>
> Stefan Peter
>
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Re: [BackupPC-users] File System containing backup was too full

[Bzzzz]

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 16:43:35 +0100
Adrien Coestesquis  wrote:

> Hey ! Indeed, it solves problems sometimes :)
> I reboot the machine right now, and I will see tomorrow

It may also be tied to another cause which appears quite silly:
https://serverfault.com/questions/482173/is-there-any-other-reason-for-no-space-left-on-device
(see comment noted 4 in middle page)

This is old, but this behavior may not have been corrected since.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] File System containing backup was too full

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On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 16:43:35 +0100
Adrien Coestesquis  wrote:

> Hey ! Indeed, it solves problems sometimes :)
> I reboot the machine right now, and I will see tomorrow

If it still goes on, it might also be for this reason:
https://access.redhat.com/solutions/2316
which you may be able to visualize using:
https://serverfault.com/questions/232525/df-in-linux-not-showing-correct-free-space-after-file-removal
(although, this one adresses a _df_ report problem.)

NB: Now using XFS @home, I never have this problem again.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] File System containing backup was too full

[Stefan Peter]

Dear Adrien Coestesquis
On 18.12.2017 16:15, Adrien Coestesquis wrote:
> Block count:              3906469376

This does not look like the reserved block count hit the limit:
> Reserved block count:     195323468
> Free blocks:              1613863920

The inodes look fine, too:
> Free inodes:              476144318
> Inode count:  488308736

What system is this? Did you set any disk quota? Is there anything
besides BackupPC living on /dev/sda1?

With kind regards

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Re: [BackupPC-users] File System containing backup was too full

[Adrien Coestesquis]

Hey ! Indeed, it solves problems sometimes :)
I reboot the machine right now, and I will see tomorrow

2017-12-18 16:38 GMT+01:00 B :

> On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 16:15:16 +0100
> Adrien Coestesquis  wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your replay Stefan.
> >
> > So this is related to the 95% and that's why the DfMaxUsagePct change
> > is not taken ?
> >
> > this is the output of tune2fs -l /dev/sda1:
>
> …
> doesn't seems there's any problem.
> …
>
> > But today i have 4.5TB left and this is sufficient to make backups
> > with my retention configuration. So why backuppc complains about
> > this ? how 63% (today's disk utilisation) is superior to 95% ?
>
> When I was still using extN FS, I had some new free space problems as it
> wasn't reported correctly for a long random moment (from minutes to
> sometimes days.)
> Forcing a reboot was one solution - anyway, if you can do so, go for it,
> just to see if the next backup will still complain or not.
>
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Re: [BackupPC-users] File System containing backup was too full

[Adrien Coestesquis]

here is the output :

FilesystemInodes  IUsed IFree   IUse% Mounted on
/dev/sda1   488308736 18304824 4700039124% /backup

only 4% used

2017-12-18 16:24 GMT+01:00 Carl W. Soderstrom :

> On 12/18 03:15 , Adrien Coestesquis wrote:
> > But today i have 4.5TB left and this is sufficient to make backups with
> my
> > retention configuration. So why backuppc complains about this ? how 63%
> > (today's disk utilisation) is superior to 95% ?
>
> What is the output of 'df -i'? Could it be that you have 95% of your inodes
> used? BackupPC is very hungry for inodes, so ext[2,3,4]fs are generally not
> the best choice.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] File System containing backup was too full

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On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 16:15:16 +0100
Adrien Coestesquis  wrote:

> Thanks for your replay Stefan.
> 
> So this is related to the 95% and that's why the DfMaxUsagePct change
> is not taken ?
> 
> this is the output of tune2fs -l /dev/sda1: 

…
doesn't seems there's any problem.
…
 
> But today i have 4.5TB left and this is sufficient to make backups
> with my retention configuration. So why backuppc complains about
> this ? how 63% (today's disk utilisation) is superior to 95% ?

When I was still using extN FS, I had some new free space problems as it
wasn't reported correctly for a long random moment (from minutes to
sometimes days.)
Forcing a reboot was one solution - anyway, if you can do so, go for it,
just to see if the next backup will still complain or not.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] File System containing backup was too full

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On 12/18 03:15 , Adrien Coestesquis wrote:
> But today i have 4.5TB left and this is sufficient to make backups with my
> retention configuration. So why backuppc complains about this ? how 63%
> (today's disk utilisation) is superior to 95% ?

What is the output of 'df -i'? Could it be that you have 95% of your inodes
used? BackupPC is very hungry for inodes, so ext[2,3,4]fs are generally not
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Re: [BackupPC-users] File System containing backup was too full

[Adrien Coestesquis]

Thanks for your replay Stefan.

So this is related to the 95% and that's why the DfMaxUsagePct change is
not taken ?

this is the output of tune2fs -l /dev/sda1:
root@bak1:/backup/backuppc# tune2fs -l /dev/sda1
tune2fs 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
Filesystem volume name:   
Last mounted on:  /backup
Filesystem UUID:  c59b0f45-04da-42f1-91d8-d12faa1e5805
Filesystem magic number:  0xEF53
Filesystem revision #:1 (dynamic)
Filesystem features:  has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index
filetype needs_recovery extent flex_bg sparse_super large_file huge_file
uninit_bg dir_nlink extra_isize
Filesystem flags: signed_directory_hash
Default mount options:user_xattr acl
Filesystem state: clean
Errors behavior:  Continue
Filesystem OS type:   Linux
Inode count:  488308736
Block count:  3906469376
Reserved block count: 195323468
Free blocks:  1613863920
Free inodes:  476144318
First block:  0
Block size:   4096
Fragment size:4096
Reserved GDT blocks:  92
Blocks per group: 32768
Fragments per group:  32768
Inodes per group: 4096
Inode blocks per group:   256
Flex block group size:16
Filesystem created:   Wed Mar 15 17:27:48 2017
Last mount time:  Wed Oct 25 13:11:32 2017
Last write time:  Wed Oct 25 13:11:32 2017
Mount count:  21
Maximum mount count:  -1
Last checked: Wed Mar 15 17:27:48 2017
Check interval:   0 ()
Lifetime writes:  41 TB
Reserved blocks uid:  0 (user root)
Reserved blocks gid:  0 (group root)
First inode:  11
Inode size:   256
Required extra isize: 28
Desired extra isize:  28
Journal inode:8
Default directory hash:   half_md4
Directory Hash Seed:  ead895dd-efd8-47d3-90a3-ca841f364616
Journal backup:   inode blocks

But today i have 4.5TB left and this is sufficient to make backups with my
retention configuration. So why backuppc complains about this ? how 63%
(today's disk utilisation) is superior to 95% ?

Best Regards,

Andrew

2017-12-18 15:04 GMT+01:00 Stefan Peter :

> Dear
> On 18.12.2017 14:42, Adrien Coestesquis wrote:
> > Hi BackupPC Users !!
> >
> > Since few days I receive notifications which warn me about hosts skipped.
> > I recently backuped a server which took a lot of place. I was trying to
> > make only one full backup, then i disabled the backup with the
> > BackupsDisable setting.
> >
>
> ...
>
> >
> > In the notification, it says that my threshold in the configuration file
> > is 95% and says that yesterday the system was up to 96% full
> > I already tried to modify this value (*
> > DfMaxUsagePct)
> > * to 98% but the notification still says 95%
>
> This most probably is caused by the formating of your disk. From man mk2fs:
>
>  -m reserved-blocks-percentage
>   Specify the percentage of the filesystem blocks reserved for the
>   super-user.   This  avoids  fragmentation, and allows root-owned
>   daemons, such as syslogd(8), to continue to  function  correctly
>   after non-privileged processes are prevented from writing to the
>   filesystem.  The default percentage is 5%.
>
>
> So if you did not add an -m parameter, the last 5% of your disk can be
> used by root only.
>
> You can change this percentage using tune2fs -m
>
> But I'd definitely would recommend to enlarge the volume in question or
> to organize an additional server.
>
>
> With kind regards
>
> Stefan Peter
>
>
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Re: [BackupPC-users] File System containing backup was too full

[Stefan Peter]

Dear
On 18.12.2017 14:42, Adrien Coestesquis wrote:
> Hi BackupPC Users !!
> 
> Since few days I receive notifications which warn me about hosts skipped.
> I recently backuped a server which took a lot of place. I was trying to
> make only one full backup, then i disabled the backup with the
> BackupsDisable setting.
> 

...

> 
> In the notification, it says that my threshold in the configuration file
> is 95% and says that yesterday the system was up to 96% full
> I already tried to modify this value (*
> DfMaxUsagePct)
> * to 98% but the notification still says 95%

This most probably is caused by the formating of your disk. From man mk2fs:

 -m reserved-blocks-percentage
  Specify the percentage of the filesystem blocks reserved for the
  super-user.   This  avoids  fragmentation, and allows root-owned
  daemons, such as syslogd(8), to continue to  function  correctly
  after non-privileged processes are prevented from writing to the
  filesystem.  The default percentage is 5%.


So if you did not add an -m parameter, the last 5% of your disk can be
used by root only.

You can change this percentage using tune2fs -m

But I'd definitely would recommend to enlarge the volume in question or
to organize an additional server.


With kind regards

Stefan Peter


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[BackupPC-users] File System containing backup was too full

[Adrien Coestesquis]

Hi BackupPC Users !!

Since few days I receive notifications which warn me about hosts skipped.
I recently backuped a server which took a lot of place. I was trying to
make only one full backup, then i disabled the backup with the
BackupsDisable setting.

Now i have 4.5TB left on my FS :

/dev/sda1   15T  9.3T  4.5T  68% /backup

And i still receive notifications. Yesterday 7 hosts were not backuped.
When i check new backup set for every hosts, everything is OK, it creates
new backups as configured.

In the notification, it says that my threshold in the configuration file is
95% and says that yesterday the system was up to 96% full
I already tried to modify this value (*DfMaxUsagePct)* to 98% but the
notification still says 95%
I already tried to make some space and it still says that yesterday the
system was up to 96% full


How can I be sure that my backups well done ? and is there a bug with this
?

I am using backuppc 3.3.0.

Thanks for your help !

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.5 released (plus new versions of backuppc-xs and rsync-bpc)

[Pete Geenhuizen]

Daniel,

I plan on upgrading from v3 to v4, and have installed your rpm on a test 
host, so this is in essence a new install.  According to the 
documentation to set up /etc/BackupPC/config.pl I need to run 
configure.pl which appears to be included in the tar file, but isn't in 
the rpm.  Is there a way to include it, or is your rpm intended to be a 
means of upgrading v3 to v4?  If that is the case then I guess that that 
should be made clear.


On the other hand, I don't know what the process is when using the tar 
file to upgrade from V3 to V4, the new config.pl has quite a few new 
options and I don't know what happens if you run the V3 config.pl using 
the V4 software.


Thanks

Pete


On 12/18/17 06:02, Pete Geenhuizen wrote:

Excellent, working just fine now.

Thanks

Pete


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Le 17/12/2017 à 14:35, Pete Geenhuizen a écrit :

Thanks, fixed in BackupPC4-4.1.5-2.fws which will be in my repo in a 
few minutes



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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.5 released (plus new versions of backuppc-xs and rsync-bpc)

[Pete Geenhuizen]

Excellent, working just fine now.

Thanks

Pete


On 12/18/17 04:14, Daniel Berteaud wrote:

Le 17/12/2017 à 14:35, Pete Geenhuizen a écrit :

Daniel,

I just tried to install your rpm on Centos 7 which failed with this 
dependency error


Error: Package: BackupPC4-4.1.5-1.x86_64

   Requires: par2cmd

I have par2cmdline.rpm installed but it doesn't have par2cmd not can 
I find a par2cmd rpm.


Thanks, fixed in BackupPC4-4.1.5-2.fws which will be in my repo in a 
few minutes



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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.5 released (plus new versions of backuppc-xs and rsync-bpc)

[Daniel Berteaud]

Le 17/12/2017 à 14:35, Pete Geenhuizen a écrit :

Daniel,

I just tried to install your rpm on Centos 7 which failed with this 
dependency error


Error: Package: BackupPC4-4.1.5-1.x86_64

   Requires: par2cmd

I have par2cmdline.rpm installed but it doesn't have par2cmd not can I 
find a par2cmd rpm.


Thanks, fixed in BackupPC4-4.1.5-2.fws which will be in my repo in a few 
minutes



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