Re: [BackupPC-users] pre-backup encryption? user wants files to be inaccessible even to me :-)
Hi everyone, On 3/23/2010 3:41 PM, Frank J. Gómez wrote: I have an interesting situation here. One of my users refuses to participate in the system of backups because she's concerned about the security of her files. She agreed to participate if I can make the system work such that even I am unable to see the contents of her files. She's running Windows -- XP Home, I believe. snip How would you do it? What encryption software would you use? Last year I floated the idea on the list of having BackupPC handle the encryption for you using convergent encryption. This would let you pool encrypted blocks with identical content together just as the pool works now. It wouldn't solve the problem of having read access on the remote machine, but it would ensure the privacy of backups on the server. I'm no encryption expert, but it seemed possible when reading the paper (doi:10.1109/ICDCS.2002.1022312). Here is the earlier conversation: http://www.backupcentral.com/phpBB2/two-way-mirrors-of-external-mailing-lists-3/backuppc-21/convergent-encryption-98093/ Cody -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] cygwin, ssh, and rsync
On 2/6/2010 2:18 PM, Trey Nolen wrote: I don't know if this has been mentioned on the list or not, but the new Cygwin seems to have fixed the long standing bug that prevents rsync from running in server mode over ssh. Now, we are able to use the method rsync instead of rsyncd. This means that we no longer have to maintain persistent SSH tunnels for our backups of Windows machines. The rsync method also seems to be faster for us on WANs as well. Just wanted to let everyone know if this hasn't been brought up. Trey Nolen I've had the reverse happen to me -- after the upgrade from Cygwin 1.5.25 to 1.7.1 my rscynd backups over pre-established ssh tunnels started hanging randomly after ~24 minutes. I've reinstalled Cygwin, installed on fresh Win 7 machines, turned off all anti-virus and firewalls, and still can't eliminate the problem. It is definitely an rsyncd issue and not a ssh one as the tunnel stays up and active waiting. I'll give rsync over ssh a try again, though. Cody -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Revamping the Wiki
You should be able to access it now. It was from 2/13/2009, so it may be a little off by now. Cody phil wrote: Hey Cody, Cody Dunne wrote: For those of you interested, you can see the current structure of the wiki at: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/files/BPCWikiStructure.png gives me a 404: Page Not Found. I haven't heard from anyone interested meeting yet, but I'll still plan on having it for anyone who wants to show up. I really would like to throw in some work hours for the wiki. Maybe you me and others that are willing to contribute can work on something like a sitemap or structure, so that others can enhance it and know where they can put their information into. I guess you made something like this in your BPCWikiStructure file? Why Office and PNG, lets made a wiki page (of course :-) - P hil -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Where is the BackupPC-Wiki?
Filipe Brandenburger wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 07:04, p...@backup-and-restore.de wrote: I wanted to add some stuff to the wiki (common configuration) but it seems that the wiki is no there? Question: - What is going on? - Where is the Wiki? Oh oh... Sourceforge discontinued the Wiki service. I got this e-mail from them snip I believe they still should have a backup of the contents just before the service was discontinued, and I believe it should be possible to request the migration to Trac or MediaWiki by opening a support ticket with them. If not, I have a dump of the wiki from 2/12/2009. Cody -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] cygrunsrv and Vista - Access Denied
Hi Peter, Peter Bloomfield wrote: Hi, I am trying to get a Vista box added to the computers backed up by BackupPC and I am failing when trying to add the rsyncd service at the windows end. I keep getting an 'Access Denied' using the cygrunsrv.exe. In fact, simply listing services using cygrunsrv results in the following, c:/cygwin/bin/cygrunsrv: warning: OpenService failed for 'DcomLaunch': Win32 error 5 Access is denied. c:/cygwin/bin/cygrunsrv: warning: OpenService failed for 'odserv': Win32 error 5 Access is denied. c:/cygwin/bin/cygrunsrv: warning: OpenService failed for 'ose': Win32 error 5 Access is denied. c:/cygwin/bin/cygrunsrv: warning: OpenService failed for 'pla': Win32 error 5 Access is denied. c:/cygwin/bin/cygrunsrv: warning: OpenService failed for 'QWAVE': Win32 error 5 Access is denied. c:/cygwin/bin/cygrunsrv: warning: OpenService failed for 'RpcSs': Win32 error 5 Access is denied. The user issuing the cygrunsrv.exe command has administrator privileges. Any suggestions/thoughts will be most appreciated. Thanks Peter Did you run the cygwin.bat as administrator? Cody -- Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge This is your chance to win up to $100,000 in prizes! For a limited time, vendors submitting new applications to BlackBerry App World(TM) will have the opportunity to enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge. See full prize details at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/Challenge ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Convergent encryption
Hi Adam, From what I've read, it looks like convergent encryption would solve all the cases you mention. 1) Any third party wouldn't be able to decrypt the files on the drive, even when the server is online or without full drive encryption. The server can't ever read file contents. 2) As with 1), administrators wouldn't be able to view file contents. The problem you mention of destroying pooling wouldn't apply, as the goal of convergent encryption is to still allow the pooling of identical files by encrypting them the same way on different machines. 3) The need for encrypted tunnels is still there, but at least file contents wouldn't be visible in transit. Cody Adam Goryachev wrote: Cody Dunne wrote: I recently ran into a paper on convergent encryption, which is a way of encrypting file blocks by their hashes. The hashes (keys) are stored with the blocks, encrypted with the public key of any authorized readers. This allows a server to pool identical files, as they end up having identical encrypted blocks. This would allow BackupPC to still work as it does now. Naturally, file size, location, quantity, etc are visible but the contents wouldn't be. I'm not sure if this has been suggested before, but a brief peruse of the archives didn't turn anything up. It seems like the arguments against encryption in the past found the pooling issue insurmountable. I suppose there are a number of issues which should be solved by any encryption/backup solution, but which issues each person needs solved are different. 1) In some cases, the idea is to stop any third party that happens to break into the backup server from retrieving the data. 2) In other cases, you also want to prevent the admin of the backup server from being able to access the un-encrypted data 3) I'm sure there are other scenarios as well, but those are best resolved with a VPN/similar solution. To solve (1) there are probably a number of solutions from using an encrypted filesystem, or similar, though I'm not sure how useful that is when you need to leave the filesystem mounted 100% of the time so that backups can occur when needed. Same applies for auto-mounting the filesystem just before a backup, if the system can automount, then so could an attacker... To solve (2) there are also a number of possible solutions, one of which was mentioned on this list recently (rsync + encryption) which involved creating an encrypted directory structure (copy of the data) and then using the standard rsync to backup this encrypted structure. The ideal solution (from my perspective :) ) would be to have a custom open source'backuppc client' which can be installed on any linux or windows system, which supports rsync-like backups, with optional encryption prior to sending the data. This encryption will probably destroy the concept of pooling (unless every encryption key is the same on all clients), but it does make use of the other 90% of what backuppc provides (scheduling, interface, etc) Of course, the 'custom open source client' would also solve a number of other issues such as allowing the client to select which folders/files to include/exclude in the backup etc Regards, Adam -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Convergent encryption
Hi everyone, I recently ran into a paper on convergent encryption, which is a way of encrypting file blocks by their hashes. The hashes (keys) are stored with the blocks, encrypted with the public key of any authorized readers. This allows a server to pool identical files, as they end up having identical encrypted blocks. This would allow BackupPC to still work as it does now. Naturally, file size, location, quantity, etc are visible but the contents wouldn't be. I'm not sure if this has been suggested before, but a brief peruse of the archives didn't turn anything up. It seems like the arguments against encryption in the past found the pooling issue insurmountable. I appended bibtex for the paper below. Cody @INPROCEEDINGS{Douceur02Reclaimingspacefrom, author = {J.~R. Douceur and A. Adya and W.~J. Bolosky and P. Simon and M. Theimer}, title = {Reclaiming space from duplicate files in a serverless distributed file system}, booktitle = {ICDCS '02: Proc. 22nd International Conference on Distributed Computing Systems}, year = {2002}, pages = {617--624}, month = {2--5 July }, abstract = {The Farsite distributed file system provides availability by replicating each file onto multiple desktop computers. Since this replication consumes significant storage space, it is important to reclaim used space where possible. Measurement of over 500 desktop file systems shows that nearly half of all consumed space is occupied by duplicate files. We present a mechanism to reclaim space from this incidental duplication to make it available for controlled file replication. Our mechanism includes: (1) convergent encryption, which enables duplicate files to be coalesced into the space of a single file, even if the files are encrypted with different users' keys; and (2) SALAD, a Self-Arranging Lossy Associative Database for aggregating file content and location information in a decentralized, scalable, fault-tolerant manner. Large-scale simulation experiments show that the duplicate-file coalescing system is scalable, highly effective, and fault-tolerant.}, doi = {10.1109/ICDCS.2002.1022312}, url = {http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=1022312} } -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Baking up Windows Vista
Hi Mauro, Mauro Condarelli wrote: Hi, I managed to have my backups working for my Linux machines. Now I need to add a Win Vista machine as client. I browsed the wiki, but I didn't find anything specific and the guidelines for XP seem very old. What is the approved method to backup a current (Vista Home SP1) machine? I have one share plus the User settings to backup. Any pointers welcome. Rsyncd seems to work best, with a preconfigured ssh tunnel if you want encryption. All my experience with Vista BackupPC is documented here: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html Cody -- ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Baking up Windows Vista
You're very welcome, and I hope it works for you. Let me know if you have any suggestions for additions or find any problems with it. Cody o...@jltechinc.com wrote: Cody, Thanks for such an inclusive document! Many times we as administrators have very limited time to scour all the links related to the many parts of everything we need to manage our customers. I guess I must have look at every link I could find trying to find a working solution that encapsulated Ubuntu, XP, rsync and LVM. I wish there was one place we could find actual real-world working examples like this one, but unfortunately once many administrators get theirs working, they rarely peruse the discussion groups anymore to give back. Excellent article. -obj Cody Dunne said the following on 04/01/2009 12:12 PM: Hi Mauro, Mauro Condarelli wrote: Hi, I managed to have my backups working for my Linux machines. Now I need to add a Win Vista machine as client. I browsed the wiki, but I didn't find anything specific and the guidelines for XP seem very old. What is the approved method to backup a current (Vista Home SP1) machine? I have one share plus the User settings to backup. Any pointers welcome. Rsyncd seems to work best, with a preconfigured ssh tunnel if you want encryption. All my experience with Vista BackupPC is documented here: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html Cody -- ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Need help updating BackupPC wiki
Hi David, David Lasker wrote: I have been working with Jeffrey Kosowsky to add his Windows VSS scripts to the wiki. I was able to edit the User Scripts page at http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/CustomUserScripts to add a link to a new page: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/User+Scripts+-+Client+-+Windows+VSS But I am unable to edit that new page. The new page has a link at the top to sign in. When I sign into my sourceforge account (davelasker), the sign-in link remains, and there is no link to edit the page. When I click the sign-in link a 2nd time, it complains that I am already signed in. Is there a trick to adding a new page to this wiki? You have to find the new page link in the Wiki Navigation sidebar, and create it before you can edit it. I think you were following a red link to a nonexistent page, and trying to edit the welcome page that it went to. I created it for you, so you should be able to edit it now. Cody -- ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] How scalable is backuppc?
Chris Robertson wrote: Mike Dresser wrote: Matthias Meyer wrote: * Pool is 1852.64GB comprising 8466234 files and 4369 directories (as of 3/12 02:26), * Pool hashing gives 9654 repeated files with longest chain 85, * Nightly cleanup removed 7189 files of size 35.62GB (around 3/12 02:26), * Pool file system was recently at 44% (3/12 12:05), today's max is 44% (3/12 00:00) and yesterday's max was 44%. * Pool is 587.09GB comprising 31187909 files and 4369 directories (as of 2009-03-11 14:46), * Pool hashing gives 2294 repeated files with longest chain 944, * Nightly cleanup removed 1648979 files of size 50.98GB (around 2009-03-11 14:46), * Pool file system was recently at 11% (2009-03-12 11:00), today's max is 11% (2009-03-12 07:00) and yesterday's max was 11%. Has anyone else noticed that all the posted pool information has 4369 directories listed for the pool? Mine does as well. Cody -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] error in FAQ about Removing a client (BackupsDisable)
Hi Marthter marthter wrote: The FAQ still talks about setting FullPeriod to -1 or -2 to disable backups instead of the newer method of setting BackupsDisable to 1 or 2: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html#other_installation_topics You're correct that it needs to be modified, but AFAIK that document isn't referred to as the FAQ, just the documentation. It is correct in the $Conf{BackupsDisable} section, just not in the one you refer to. Also there is (at least the appearance of) a bit of a passing-the-buck problem here between the FAQ and the wiki: The FAQ http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/ says The FAQ has been replaced by the wiki [link]. These pages are no longer being updated. This is on the FAQ page, not the documentation page. The FAQ isn't updated any more, but AFAIK the documentation is. However the wiki http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/ says This wiki is not intended to replace the excellent BackupPC documentation [link to FAQ]. It doesn't actually link to the FAQ, even though it is in the same directory. Clearly these are contradictory and cannot both be right. Where should the above correction about BackupsDisable be made, and who can make it? and which is the current view on which documentation location is accurate, and who can correct that? Craig updates the documentation, so we can get him to fix it. Cody -- ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Changing rsyncd listen port on Windows XP computers.
Hi Corey, Cory Rivera wrote: [data] path = e:/data comment = data share to back up auth users = backuppc secrets file = c:/rsyncd/rsyncd.secrets strict modes = false read only = false list = false port = 1873 (this changes according to what the server has configured for each computer) I then run services.bat, and verify that the service is running. I've set up Windows firewall to unblock port 1873 (or the respective port). The problem is, when I go to run BackupPC I check the XferLOG for the computer, and I get an inet connect: Connection refused error on port 1873. I've narrowed the problem down to this: I run netstat -a from the Windows computer and see that TCP computer:1873 is not even listed. However, TCP computer:873 is in the listening state. Disabling the rsyncd service removes that line, and enabling it brings it back. It seems that even though I specified in rsyncd.conf, port = 1873, the daemon still listens on 873. 'port' is a global parameter for rsyncd.conf, not a module one. You need to put it above the '[data]' module. See http://samba.anu.edu.au/ftp/rsync/rsyncd.conf.html for details. Also, make sure you're not specifying '--port' on the command line, which would supersede any value in the conf file. -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] meaning of different Aborting backup failure messages
Hi everyone, I added the error message descriptions from this thread to the error message page on the wiki: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/ErrorMessages Please see if there's anything you can add or fix for them! Cody -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] vista backup question
Hi Dashpartha, Dashpartha wrote: Hi , I have a Windows Vista system,which i want to take backup through Backuppc.I have already configured backuppc on a linux server(RHELAS4U5) Taking backup of WINXP Systems,but my problem is i am not able to install Rsyncd(275KB),while the service .bat file is already running. also i am not able to start the service in services.msc.the error message shown in BAckup PC Console :Got fatal error during xfer (inet connect: Connection refused). What .bat file you're referring to? Please help me how to install/configure Backuppc on a Windows Vista System in step by step procedure. Check here for a guide: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html Cody -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC and Windows/ Cygwin clients via ssh/ rsync
Hi David, David Christensen wrote: However, when I attempt to backup Windows XP Professional SP3/ Cygwin machines via ssh/rsync, BackupPC will process anywhere from dozens to hundreds of files and then hang, usually on a large file (console session follows). This is a known problem with ssh/rsync on Cygwin. Use rsyncd on the windows client instead and if you want ssh, set up a tunnel before hand. Here is a guide that will be on the wiki soon: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html Cody -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC and Windows/ Cygwin clients via ssh/ rsync
Hi David, David Christensen wrote: Regular rsync over SSH doesn't work between Linux and Windows/Cygwin boxes because of a bug fixed in rsync 3.0 The following line says the problem still remains with BackupPC, though. I'm not sure if plain rsync 3.0/ssh works over cygwin, but it definitely doesn't with BackupPC, which uses the File::RsyncP perl module which uses the older protocol 28 instead of 30. Maybe someone who knows more about it could tell us if it was fixed, and I can update the guide. If I rebuild the box using Debian 5, should BackupPC work for Windows/ Cygwin via ssh/ rsync? No, see above. Cody -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] IRC channel invite only?
Hi folks, Does anyone know why our #backuppc IRC channel on freenode is now invite only? Thanks, Cody -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] IRC channel invite only?
Hi Royden, royden yates wrote: I wonder if this is it (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IRC#Error:_Unable_to_join_channel_.28invite_only.29) Error: Unable to join channel (invite only) This error arises on a private channel which empties. Upon emptying, various modes (+i) have to be set up again by any channel operator. Solution -- you can often ask Freenode's server to invite you manually using the invite command (see below). This will work because chanserv keeps a record of which channels you can ask for an invite in, and this is not lost when the channel empties. Solution may be there too. Thanks for the help, but I don't believe the channel was private a few days ago when I last logged on, so I don't think I'd be on an invite list. Why would it even be set to private? I messaged the two users currently on it to see if they could get me an invite but they haven't responded. Cody -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Revamping the Wiki
Johan Ehnberg wrote: I for one would be happy to contribute with several complete pages of documentation that I have generated for my clients, once the Wiki is clear enough to start with. That's fantastic! I'm glad Craig supports it as well. I've marked a few of the recent mailing list messages to copy over, but a more consistent approach to making a FAQ would be excellent. What sorts of documentation do you have? It might help in planning out the structure, as well as what stuff of mine to contribute as well. Cody -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Revamping the Wiki
For those of you interested, you can see the current structure of the wiki at: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/files/BPCWikiStructure.png Also, the NodeXL workbook for it is here: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/files/BPCWikiStructure.xlsx (sorry, Windows/Office2007 only) If anyone wants to take a shot at modifying it send me what you get or an outline. Jergen, thanks for your offer to help. I agree with your assessment of the need to consolidate simplify the FAQ and Tips and Tricks, but would include the Common Configuration Issues section as well. Also we could enforce some simple style formatting guidelines throughout. I haven't heard from anyone interested meeting yet, but I'll still plan on having it for anyone who wants to show up. Cody -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Revamping the Wiki
Hello everyone, I've been looking over the BackupPC wiki to find somewhere to integrate my own material, but it's in pretty bad shape. There's no consistent structure or formatting, and I remember from my initial experience with it that everything was very hard to find. There is a proposed structure page (http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/ProposedWikiStructure) but it is fairly old, has no discussion, and it's suggestions are only partially implemented. I'd be willing to do a lot of the cleaning myself, though I don't want to step on anyone's toes without talking with you first. Also, my knowledge of BackupPC is fairly limited to my setup (XP/Vista clients Ubuntu server). Who would be interested in a short meeting about this, say this Sunday at 12pm via Skype or IRC? My username for both is edallme. Also, please send any other suggestions you have to me or add them to the ProposedWikiStructure wiki page/discussion. Regards, Cody Dunne -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] vista backup question
Hi Holger, Holger Parplies wrote: Hi, Cody Dunne wrote on 2009-01-08 13:32:00 +0800 [Re: [BackupPC-users] vista backup question]: [...] See http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html#Xfer you keep quoting your guide. How about contributing the information (or at least the pointer, but better the information) to the wiki? Regards, Holger I copied the excludes a while back to the Common_backup_excludes page on the wiki, and keep it updated. If anyone wants to put a link to the other parts of my guide on the wiki or even make a page for all of it, they're welcome to as long as they cite the source. I'm not interested in maintaining both copies, though. Cody -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] vista backup question
Hi Mark, Mark Maciolek wrote: hi, Running 3.1.0 on CentOS 5.2 with 40 clients so far mostly Linux systems. Added my first Vista system today. Used Deltacopy to install rsync. The backup worked but still had 13446 error transfer, mainly file name too long. Remote[1]: rsync: readlink_stat(All Users/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/... Basically it is repeating the Application Data over and over again. Has anyone seen this issue and know how to prevent it? Mark That's because rsync is following the Vista junction points for the old XP locations of things. See http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html#Xfer for the excludes you need to pass to rsync. Cody -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Passwords for rsync on client
Hi Juergen, Juergen Harms wrote: Things start to run smoothly, backupPC is really nice to install and make running. But how do I reasonably proceed with password protection for client rsyncd? To get started, I presently use $Conf{RsyncdAuthRequired} = 0; - works nicely, but not protection. As an alternative I see that I can set that variable to 1, but then I must store the password in the config.pl file - which needs to be world readable. Not a good solution either - are there other alternatives? Instead of using the rsyncd authentication, you can connect over a ssh tunnel that then uses the rsyncd on the client. You then limit rsyncd to only accept local connections. That way you have ssh authentication as well as encrypted transfer. See http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html for one way to do this. Cody -- ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Passwords for rsync on client
Hi Juergen, Juergen Harms wrote: Your BackupPC Install Guide is an extremely helpful document! http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html Sorry for posting again, but this document is worth the publicity (and I somehow did not see it when I did my initial homework with google). Thanks! I'm glad you like it. I made it from my installation notes and tried to make it as detailed as possible. Cody -- ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] new to backuppc
Hi Anandx, anandx wrote: There is a cygwin+rsync package available on the backuppc sourceforge site, which can make it very easy to install rsyncd. If you don't need rsync for anything else, and are happy to use rsyncd instead of rsync+ssh, then I've found this to be a good solution. Saw the package, and after reading the readme, it sure wouldn't be a problem to install it. I have a question on this, enabling the rsyncd on windows machine, does it arise any security issues of any kind ? Yes, rsyncd doesn't encrypt the file transfer and the authentication is less secure than ssh. You can allay these by setting up rsyncd to only allow local connections and then using an ssh tunnel for the transfer. For a guide, see http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html Btw any ideas if Backuppc can be configured to backup certain hosts at different intervals and certain at different ? Basically i want a machine to be backed up daily and keep 7 days backup, then 4 weekly backups and no monthly and then another one, i only want the monthly backups. Absolutely. The schedule settings in the CGI interface allow easy individual client settings for full backups: FullPeriod (time between backups) and FullKeepCnt (the number of backups to keep, which can be exponential over time). Similar settings are for incremental backups. Cody -- ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Junctions on WinXP
Hi Jeffrey, Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote: Does BackupPC know how to treat NTFS junction points. They are analogous to *nix symbolic links but only work on directories. Based on a little test, it seems like BackupPC does not know about them since it seems to have copied over all the data -- i.e. it treated the junction as a real directory rather than as a symbolic-type link. The attribute file also seems to treat it like a normal directory. Now to be fair, rsync does the same, so some of this may be an rsync artifact. Also, my understanding is that Vista introduced a notion of Unix-like symbolic links. Does anyone know whether they are treated properly by BackupPC? (I don't have Vista around to test but it would even be interesting to know how rsync treats them). I'm not sure about NTFS junction points in general, but in my tests the new Vista junction points broke rsync by recursively creating extra-long pathnames. I wrote excludes that would get rid of all the ones Vista creates for you. See this section on my BackupPC Windows guide for the generic excludes: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html#Vista Cody - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Vista client unauthorized user
Oz Dror wrote: Thanks for responding. I have done all the correction that you undigested. I am still havening the auth issue. When I run the backup in a command line I noticed these lines: Negotiated protocol version 28 Got response: 73c7ac91a97cd967d94504b9a6347037 Auth: got challenge: Mkx8AVu0NSVA9mANktJ9Tg, reply: c8eskal82WfZRQS5pjRwNw Error connecting to module home at 192.168.0.97:873: auth failed on module home what does that mean? Which user failed Authorization.? My user account on the vista machine or backuppc user This is the user that is defined in your rsyncd.secrets file. It shouldn't require any other users. I would first check rsyncd.secrets and make sure you're passing the right password. You set up RsyncdUserName - backuppc RsyncdPasswd - samepasswordasinrsyncd.secrets in the Xfer settings of backuppc, right? does the backuppc needs to be an administrator user of the vista machine In my current setup it is not even a user of the vista machine. Rsyncd should be running as the SYSTEM user, so you won't need a backuppc user on the Vista machine unless you want to be able to ssh into it or the like. Are you running something like below to test? rsync -a [EMAIL PROTECTED]::home /var/lib/backuppc/testing/ -v If you're looking for a step-by-step guide that works on Vista, check out my site: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html Cody - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Vista client unauthorized user
Oz Dror wrote: I have installed xp client unsuccessfully On vista rsyncd failed. Any ideas why and how to debug it. I get the following error: auth failed on module home from unknown (192.168.0.4): unauthorized user /etc/rsyncd: You mean /etc/rsyncd.conf, right? gid = users read only = false use chroot = false transfer logging = false log file = /var/log/rsyncd.log log format = %h %o %f %l %b hosts allow = 192.168.0.4 hosts deny = 0.0.0.0/0 Try removing the allow and deny lines temporarily until it starts working. strict modes = false [root] path = /cygdrive/c/ auth users = backuppc secrets file = /etc/rsyncd.secrets [home] path = /cygdrive/c/users/[my home dir]/documents/quicken/ Isn't the path case sensitive? e.g.-/cygdrive/c/Users/[my home dir]/Documents/Quicken/ auth users = backuppc Also case sensitive. secrets file = /etc/rsyncd.secrets backuppc is in there, right? Like this: backuppc:password Thanks Oz Also, can you connect to it manually or increase the verbosity and tail /var/log/rsyncd.log on the client? Cody - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Any plans to upgrade File::RsyncP to version 30?
Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote: Heinrich Christian Peters wrote at about 23:52:26 +0100 on Thursday, November 6, 2008: I think the changes between the protocol 28, 29 an 30 is documented here: http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/utils/admin-tools/rsync/OLDNEWS Very helpful but overwhelming ;) Sounds like a lot of good improvements in speed, efficiency and particularly memory usage. One change that will likely require updates beyond File::RsyncP is: Protocol 30 now uses MD5 checksums instead of MD4. I assume this would require changes to RsyncDigest.pm and maybe also FileZIO.pm to deal with this new digest format. Maybe also a new first byte (d8 anybody???). Still would be great to have an upgrade to fix Windows issues (which seem to be pretty prevalent). I too would love an upgrade to File::RsyncP. Until then, perhaps a warning should be put in the documentation about trying to use rsync with Windows clients. There isn't anything in there saying to avoid rsync, and it was not obvious to me in my initial research that it would fail. Cody - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Problems backing up Windows XP over rsyncd
Heinrich Christian Peters wrote: The relevant conifg: $Conf{ClientNameAlias} = 'localhost'; $Conf{RsyncdClientPort} = '10012'; $Conf{DumpPreUserCmd} = '/etc/backuppc/buildtun $name 22 10012'; $Conf{DumpPostUserCmd}= '/usr/bin/pkill -u backuppc -f tun$name'; $Conf{RestorePreUserCmd} = '/etc/backuppc/buildtun $name 22 10012'; $Conf{RestorePostUserCmd}= '/usr/bin/pkill -u backuppc -f tun$name'; $Conf{PingCmd} = 'ping -c 1 -w 3 $name'; with /etc/backuppc/buildtun #!/bin/bash host=$1 sshPort=$2 locPort=$3 remPort=873 username=backup /usr/bin/screen -d -m -S tun$host /usr/bin/ssh -q -x -L $locPort:localhost:873 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -p $sshPort /bin/sleep 10 exit 0 Are /usr/bin/screen... and /bin/sleep 10 on separate lines? If they are, then the goal of making the ssh tunnel wait until BackupPC starts isn't accomplished. Yes they are in separate lines. After opening the ssh-connection (a real shell, but I will change this for the future) the script waits 10sec. If I remove the sleep the connection fails, perhaps the tunnel isn't really ready? If the tunnel is working for you, this probably isn't the problem but it's my only idea. I think if you removed the screen command, it would wait until the ssh command was finished and tunnel was ready before returning. If you put sleep 10 on the same line as the ssh command, sleep gets run on the client. That causes the tunnel to remain open for 10 seconds after the ssh command executes, which gives BackupPC time to connect over it which keeps the tunnel open. This would remove your need to explicitly kill the tunnel, as it would finish after BackupPC is done. If you do the sleep, I don't think you need screen or the DumpPostUserCmd you have. The tunnel will close automatically if BackupPC fails to start or once BackupPC finishes or fails. This wasn't working for me, don't know why. But as I already said - I don't think, that the ssh-connection is the problem. I can backup my linux-pc with the same conifg using a ssh-tunnel, too. My only other ideas for you would be to add -v and and --progress to the RsyncArgs and run BackupPC_dump like you have been. You could tail /var/log/rsyncd.log on the client, too. I added it, no big different. But in the log of the client I found a strange thing: The clients sends 27 (!) files more to the server than he receives. Unfortunately that is the limit of my experience. Does anyone else have any ideas for Heinrich? Cody - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Problems backing up Windows XP over rsyncd
Heinrich Christian Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using BackupPC (3.1.0-4) on Debian Lenny and cygwin with rsync (3.0.4-1) and ssh on Windows XP. I followed this [1] HOWTO (for Win 2003). Manual rsync-ing (with without ssh-tunnel) is working fine, but using BackupPC hangs randomly (perhaps like [2]?). My backup-user in Windows is member of the group backup-operators (or similar, I am using a German version). Is there anybody out there, who successfully using BackupPC to backup Windows over rsyncd (with ssh) to give me some hints? [1] http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/Workaround+BackupPC+Windows+2003+Hang [2] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.backup.backuppc.general/16775 Hi Heinrich, I had a lot of difficulty getting rsync to work over ssh for Windows clients and ended up creating the tunnels beforehand like your [1]. You can't use the standard rsync over ssh in BackupPC without doing it over a premade tunnel. I've been working on an installation guide for XP/Vista from notes of my process. I wasn't quite ready to share it, but as it might help you here it is: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html Let me know if it helps you! Cody Dunne - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Problems backing up Windows XP over rsyncd
Hi Heinrich, Heinrich Christian Peters wrote: Hello Cody, Am 06.11.2008 21:22, Cody Dunne schrieb: Heinrich Christian Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using BackupPC (3.1.0-4) on Debian Lenny and cygwin with rsync (3.0.4-1) and ssh on Windows XP. I followed this [1] HOWTO (for Win 2003). Manual rsync-ing (with without ssh-tunnel) is working fine, but using BackupPC hangs randomly (perhaps like [2]?). My backup-user in Windows is member of the group backup-operators (or similar, I am using a German version). [1] http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net/Workaround+BackupPC+Windows+2003+Hang [2] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.backup.backuppc.general/16775 I had a lot of difficulty getting rsync to work over ssh for Windows clients and ended up creating the tunnels beforehand like your [1]. You can't use the standard rsync over ssh in BackupPC without doing it over a premade tunnel. I've been working on an installation guide for XP/Vista from notes of my process. I wasn't quite ready to share it, but as it might help you here it is: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~cdunne/projs/backuppc_guide.html I have found your notes before. I'm amazed you found it already. They've only been online for a few days :) I tried it, but I can't get it work. I have problems to connect, but I think there is not a big different between your method and [1]. The ssh-tunnel is working and I can use the by BackupPC_dump -f -v $name established tunnel for an other rsync-process. The relevant conifg: $Conf{ClientNameAlias} = 'localhost'; $Conf{RsyncdClientPort} = '10012'; $Conf{DumpPreUserCmd} = '/etc/backuppc/buildtun $name 22 10012'; $Conf{DumpPostUserCmd}= '/usr/bin/pkill -u backuppc -f tun$name'; $Conf{RestorePreUserCmd} = '/etc/backuppc/buildtun $name 22 10012'; $Conf{RestorePostUserCmd}= '/usr/bin/pkill -u backuppc -f tun$name'; $Conf{PingCmd} = 'ping -c 1 -w 3 $name'; with /etc/backuppc/buildtun #!/bin/bash host=$1 sshPort=$2 locPort=$3 remPort=873 username=backup /usr/bin/screen -d -m -S tun$host /usr/bin/ssh -q -x -L $locPort:localhost:873 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -p $sshPort /bin/sleep 10 exit 0 Are /usr/bin/screen... and /bin/sleep 10 on separate lines? If they are, then the goal of making the ssh tunnel wait until BackupPC starts isn't accomplished. I'm not a Linux expert, so this is possibly irrelevant, but why are you using /usr/bin/screen -d -m -S tun$host? Is it only for being able to kill the tunnel easily after the backup? If you do the sleep, I don't think you need screen or the DumpPostUserCmd you have. The tunnel will close automatically if BackupPC fails to start or once BackupPC finishes or fails. I also removed the -q from the ssh command for some reason... but I don't remember now. (This is actually a combination of your script and the on in [1]) Btw. in your script you have defined a variable username, but you didn't use it for the ssh-command. Thanks for letting me know! I'd appreciate any other additions/fixes you come up with. Thanks, Heinrich Also, I recently changed the exclude lists on my guide to remove trailing slashes on directories. I was getting problems with really long temp or cache file names that caused backups to fail silently and I haven't had the problem since. My only other ideas for you would be to add -v and and --progress to the RsyncArgs and run BackupPC_dump like you have been. You could tail /var/log/rsyncd.log on the client, too. Perhaps some of the more experienced users here have more insight? I hope this helps, Cody - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/