Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-24 Thread samk-01
Nils Breunese wrote:
> 
> I believe your are going to run this as a cronjob, right? Why not make a 
> three line script (mount image, archive+gzip, unmount) and run that from 
> cron? Then you don't need to mess with any pre or post commands  in BackupPC. 
> Just an idea.
> 

Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote:
>
> So you could right a script instead.
>

The solution adopted is to use BackupPC_archiveStart in conjunction with 
$Conf{ArchivePreUserCmd} $Conf{ArchivePostUserCmd} each running a mini script 
to mount or unmount the encrypted disk.

This has exposed some odd behavior in BackupPC.  The archive is produced in 
...ArchiveName.tar.gz format.  To obtain this result ...ArchiveHost/config.pl 
must contain
$Conf{ArchiveComp} = '/bin/gzip';
Creating the archive consistently fails if the full path to gzip is not 
specified. However, making a change and save via the BackupPC web page either 
deletes this entry or changes it to "gzip" i.e. removes the path.  

In either case archive creation fails until ...ArchiveHost/config.pl is 
manually edited to restore the  the full path /bin/gzip.

Is this really odd behavior or simply my lack of familiarity with BackupPC?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-21 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote at about 13:49:38 + on Friday, November 21, 2008:

 > 02 I would like to conduct actions prior and post creating an archive. 
 > Specifically mounting a Truecrypt encrypted removable disk.  The following 
 > command line works exactly as required when executed at the command line as 
 > user = backuppc but fails when used in archiveHost.pl.
 > Command line version
 > /bin/echo password | /usr/bin/truecrypt --text --keyfiles="" 
 > --protect-hidden=no --password=password --mount /dev/sdd1 
 > /media/backups-archived
 > 
Config. pl says:
Note: all Cmds are executed directly without a shell, so the 
prog name
# needs to be a full path and you can't include shell syntax 
like
# redirection and pipes; put that in a script if you need it.

So you could right a script instead.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-21 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
SamK wrote:

> QUESTIONS:
> 01 The format of the command line required by BackupPC_archiveStart  
> is   .  Is is possible to specify  
> multiple  without explicitly listing each of them at the  
> command line?  (perhaps a wildcard) I have tried an asterisk without  
> success.

Asterisks are normally expanded by your shell to a list of files in  
the current directory. I don't believe there is an 'all' option. You  
could just list them, or grep/awk them from your hosts file or  
something.

> 02 I would like to conduct actions prior and post creating an  
> archive. Specifically mounting a Truecrypt encrypted removable  
> disk.  The following command line works exactly as required when  
> executed at the command line as user = backuppc but fails when used  
> in archiveHost.pl.
> Command line version
> /bin/echo password | /usr/bin/truecrypt --text --keyfiles="" -- 
> protect-hidden=no --password=password --mount /dev/sdd1 /media/ 
> backups-archived
>
> archiveHost.pl version
> $Conf{ArchivePreUserCmd} = '/bin/echo password | /usr/bin/truecrypt  
> --text --keyfiles="" --protect-hidden=no --password=password -- 
> mount /dev/sdd1 /media/backups-archived';
>
> Is this the correct file in which to list pre/post archive commands?
>
> Is there a syntax flaw in the construction of my  
> $Conf{ArchivePreUserCmd}?

I believe your are going to run this as a cronjob, right? Why not make  
a three line script (mount image, archive+gzip, unmount) and run that  
from cron? Then you don't need to mess with any pre or post commands  
in BackupPC. Just an idea.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-21 Thread samk-01
Craig Barratt wrote:
> 
> BackupPC_archiveStart is hardcoded to have no compression and use
> a .raw suffix.  It's pretty easy to see where to edit it to change
> that.  As Nils' mentioned you can easily compress that file, or
> use BackupPC_tarCreate and compress its output (after all,
> BackupPC_archiveStart eventually just runs BackupPC_tarCreate).
> 

Nils Breunese wrote
>
>use BackupPC_tarCreate and pipe the result into gzip. 
>

Dale Renton wrote:
>
> Have a look at these for compression :
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=abf696d2-1326-4acc-8cee-374badd63779
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=c3e8b09d-a5c3-4782-93f7-44457dc1f048
>
 
Thanks go to each of you.  Archiving is now working with two residual issues to 
clear up.

QUESTIONS:
01 The format of the command line required by BackupPC_archiveStart is 
  .  Is is possible to specify multiple  
without explicitly listing each of them at the command line?  (perhaps a 
wildcard) I have tried an asterisk without success.

02 I would like to conduct actions prior and post creating an archive. 
Specifically mounting a Truecrypt encrypted removable disk.  The following 
command line works exactly as required when executed at the command line as 
user = backuppc but fails when used in archiveHost.pl.
Command line version
/bin/echo password | /usr/bin/truecrypt --text --keyfiles="" 
--protect-hidden=no --password=password --mount /dev/sdd1 
/media/backups-archived

archiveHost.pl version
$Conf{ArchivePreUserCmd} = '/bin/echo password | /usr/bin/truecrypt --text 
--keyfiles="" --protect-hidden=no --password=password --mount /dev/sdd1 
/media/backups-archived';

Is this the correct file in which to list pre/post archive commands?

Is there a syntax flaw in the construction of my $Conf{ArchivePreUserCmd}?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-20 Thread Craig Barratt
Sam writes:

> A copy of BackupPC 3.1 has been obtained from the main Ubuntu
> repository and successfully installed on v 8.04-Server.  This has
> now provided access to the file BackupPC_archiveStart which I
> intend to use via cron as outlined in the BackupPC documentation.
>
> When executed from the command line this produces an archive in
> .tar.raw format rather than gzip format.  I must be going "snow
> blind" on this as I simply cannot figure out what configuration
> entries need to be made in which files to achieve this.  I am now
> totally confused and cannot make progress by using the documentation.
>
> Is anyone willing to give me a hand with this?

BackupPC_archiveStart is hardcoded to have no compression and use
a .raw suffix.  It's pretty easy to see where to edit it to change
that.  As Nils' mentioned you can easily compress that file, or
use BackupPC_tarCreate and compress its output (after all,
BackupPC_archiveStart eventually just runs BackupPC_tarCreate).

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-20 Thread Dale Renton

Have a look at these for compression :

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=abf696d2-1326-4acc-8cee-374badd63779

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=c3e8b09d-a5c3-4782-93f7-44457dc1f048


> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:38:44 +
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving
> 
> 
> > 
> > From: "Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2008/11/20 Thu PM 02:03:39 GMT
> > To: "General list for user discussion,
> >     questions and support" 
> > Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving
> > 
> > SamK wrote:
> > 
> > > A copy of BackupPC 3.1 has been obtained from the main Ubuntu  
> > > repository and successfully installed on v 8.04-Server.  This has  
> > > now provided access to the file BackupPC_archiveStart which I intend  
> > > to use via cron as outlined in the BackupPC documentation.
> > >
> > > When executed from the command line this produces an archive  
> > > in .tar.raw format rather than gzip format.  I must be going "snow  
> > > blind" on this as I simply cannot figure out what configuration  
> > > entries need to be made in which files to achieve this.  I am now  
> > > totally confused and cannot make progress by using the documentation.
> > >
> > > Is anyone willing to give me a hand with this?
> > 
> > What is your question exactly? If you want a gzipped archive then use  
> > gzip to compress the tar archive.
> > 
> > Nils Breunese.
> > 
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> 
> The lack of clarity in my earlier question was probably the result of my 
> frustration at the failure to do something that should be easily do-able.
> 
> All I want to achieve is
> * Emulate the clicking of the Start Archive Button in the BackupPc web 
> interface. This is working perfectly satisfactorily via CGI.  It produces 
> compressed archives FileName.tar.gz.
> 
> * Schedule this to run under cron
> 
> * Use the Archive[Pre Post]User commands to to mount a Truecrypt Volume on a 
> removable disk to store the archives in an encrypted partition used for 
> off-site storage.
> 
> Ideally I would like to keep as close as possible to the default installation 
> of BackupPC in meeting these goals and thereby keep user-generated scripts to 
> a minimum or even eliminated.
> 
> I would like to stress that I am not asking that someone else do the work 
> here; rather offer assistance and guidance out of my current confusion.
> 
> 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-20 Thread samk-01

> 
> From: "Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/11/20 Thu PM 02:03:39 GMT
> To: "General list for user discussion,
>   questions and support" 
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving
> 
> SamK wrote:
> 
> > A copy of BackupPC 3.1 has been obtained from the main Ubuntu  
> > repository and successfully installed on v 8.04-Server.  This has  
> > now provided access to the file BackupPC_archiveStart which I intend  
> > to use via cron as outlined in the BackupPC documentation.
> >
> > When executed from the command line this produces an archive  
> > in .tar.raw format rather than gzip format.  I must be going "snow  
> > blind" on this as I simply cannot figure out what configuration  
> > entries need to be made in which files to achieve this.  I am now  
> > totally confused and cannot make progress by using the documentation.
> >
> > Is anyone willing to give me a hand with this?
> 
> What is your question exactly? If you want a gzipped archive then use  
> gzip to compress the tar archive.
> 
> Nils Breunese.
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The lack of clarity in my earlier question was probably the result of my 
frustration at the failure to do something that should be easily do-able.

All I want to achieve is
* Emulate the clicking of the Start Archive Button in the BackupPc web 
interface. This is working perfectly satisfactorily via CGI.  It produces 
compressed archives FileName.tar.gz.

* Schedule this to run under cron

* Use the Archive[Pre Post]User commands to to mount a Truecrypt Volume on a 
removable disk to store the archives in an encrypted partition used for 
off-site storage.

Ideally I would like to keep as close as possible to the default installation 
of BackupPC in meeting these goals and thereby keep user-generated scripts to a 
minimum or even eliminated.

I would like to stress that I am not asking that someone else do the work here; 
rather offer assistance and guidance out of my current confusion.


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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-20 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote:

> SamK wrote:
>
>> A copy of BackupPC 3.1 has been obtained from the main Ubuntu
>> repository and successfully installed on v 8.04-Server.  This has
>> now provided access to the file BackupPC_archiveStart which I intend
>> to use via cron as outlined in the BackupPC documentation.
>>
>> When executed from the command line this produces an archive
>> in .tar.raw format rather than gzip format.  I must be going "snow
>> blind" on this as I simply cannot figure out what configuration
>> entries need to be made in which files to achieve this.  I am now
>> totally confused and cannot make progress by using the documentation.
>>
>> Is anyone willing to give me a hand with this?
>
> What is your question exactly? If you want a gzipped archive then use
> gzip to compress the tar archive.

Or what I'd do: don't use BackupPC_archiveStart, but use  
BackupPC_tarCreate and pipe the result into gzip.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-20 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
SamK wrote:

> A copy of BackupPC 3.1 has been obtained from the main Ubuntu  
> repository and successfully installed on v 8.04-Server.  This has  
> now provided access to the file BackupPC_archiveStart which I intend  
> to use via cron as outlined in the BackupPC documentation.
>
> When executed from the command line this produces an archive  
> in .tar.raw format rather than gzip format.  I must be going "snow  
> blind" on this as I simply cannot figure out what configuration  
> entries need to be made in which files to achieve this.  I am now  
> totally confused and cannot make progress by using the documentation.
>
> Is anyone willing to give me a hand with this?

What is your question exactly? If you want a gzipped archive then use  
gzip to compress the tar archive.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-20 Thread samk-01
A copy of BackupPC 3.1 has been obtained from the main Ubuntu repository and 
successfully installed on v 8.04-Server.  This has now provided access to the 
file BackupPC_archiveStart which I intend to use via cron as outlined in the 
BackupPC documentation.

When executed from the command line this produces an archive in .tar.raw format 
rather than gzip format.  I must be going "snow blind" on this as I simply 
cannot figure out what configuration entries need to be made in which files to 
achieve this.  I am now totally confused and cannot make progress by using the 
documentation.

Is anyone willing to give me a hand with this?  

SamK

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-19 Thread jkewley
Craig Barratt Wrote
> 
> From: Craig Barratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/11/18 Tue PM 09:57:39 GMT
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: "backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net"
>   
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving
> 
> SamK writes:
> 
> > I am struggling to create an archive from the command line.  The desired 
> > outcome is to emulate the clicking of the "Start Archive" button in the web 
> > page as this method is working perfectly.  The overall objective is to 
> > create the archive as a cron job.
> > 
> > >From /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_archive
> > Extract Start
> > # BackupPC_archive: Archive files for an archive client.
> > #
> > # DESCRIPTION
> > #
> > #   Usage: BackupPC_archive   
> > Extract End
> > 
> > I cannot find the definitions ofand 
> > all permutations of my guesses of what might be required have all failed.  
> > Can anyone help or indicate where the definitions are listed?
> 
> BackupPC_archive isn't very easy to use directly: reqFileName is the
> path of a file (output from perl's Data::Dumper) with information
> about what to archive.
> 
> BackupPC_archiveStart is much easier to use.  It creates a reqFile
> and then tells the BackupPC server to run the archive.
> 
> Craig
> 


One of my earlier emails on this topic mentioned that BackupPC_archiveStart was 
not included in backuppc_3.0.0.-4ubuntu1_all-deb obtained from the main Ubuntu 
repository. (it is not listed in the .deb package filelist).  Having read a 
warning in the BackupPC documentation not to mix files from different sources I 
assumed this had been deliberately omitted in favour of BackupPC_archive, and 
was therefore (mistakenly) attempting to use that file.  Is a copy of 
BackupPC_archiveStart suitable for Ubuntu8.04-Server LTS available anywhere?




Les Mikesell Wrote:
> If you are going to do it from the command line, why not start with 
> BackupPC_tarCreate and set up your own pipeline for compress/split or 
> whatever options you want. 

This was unsuccessfully attempted, but I do not know why it failed.
SamK-01 Wrote:
> An archive is successfully created when started from within the web page. 
> This produces a log-file with the following entry:
> Executing: /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_archiveHost 
> /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_tarCreate /usr/bin/split home---tom 10 
> /bin/gzip .gz 000 /var/lib/backuppc/pc/whole---all_backups *

> In a terminal running exactly the same command line as user = backuppc 
> returns:
> Usage: /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_archiveHost tarCreatePath splitPath 
> parPath host bkupNum compPath fileExt splitSize outLoc parFile share


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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-18 Thread Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am struggling to create an archive from the command line.  The desired 
> outcome is to emulate the clicking of the "Start Archive" button in the web 
> page as this method is working perfectly.  The overall objective is to create 
> the archive as a cron job.
> 
>>From /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_archive
> Extract Start
> # BackupPC_archive: Archive files for an archive client.
> #
> # DESCRIPTION
> #
> #   Usage: BackupPC_archive   
> Extract End
> 
> I cannot find the definitions ofand all 
> permutations of my guesses of what might be required have all failed.  Can 
> anyone help or indicate where the definitions are listed?

If you are going to do it from the command line, why not start with 
BackupPC_tarCreate and set up your own pipeline for compress/split or 
whatever options you want.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-18 Thread Craig Barratt
SamK writes:

> I am struggling to create an archive from the command line.  The desired 
> outcome is to emulate the clicking of the "Start Archive" button in the web 
> page as this method is working perfectly.  The overall objective is to create 
> the archive as a cron job.
> 
> >From /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_archive
> Extract Start
> # BackupPC_archive: Archive files for an archive client.
> #
> # DESCRIPTION
> #
> #   Usage: BackupPC_archive   
> Extract End
> 
> I cannot find the definitions ofand all 
> permutations of my guesses of what might be required have all failed.  Can 
> anyone help or indicate where the definitions are listed?

BackupPC_archive isn't very easy to use directly: reqFileName is the
path of a file (output from perl's Data::Dumper) with information
about what to archive.

BackupPC_archiveStart is much easier to use.  It creates a reqFile
and then tells the BackupPC server to run the archive.

Craig

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-18 Thread jkewley
Trying an alternative angle on this...
An archive is successfully created when started from within the web page.  This 
produces a log-file with the following entry:
Executing: /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_archiveHost 
/usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_tarCreate /usr/bin/split  home---tom 10 
/bin/gzip .gz 000 /var/lib/backuppc/pc/whole---all_backups  *

In a terminal running exactly the same command line as user = backuppc returns:
Usage: /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_archiveHost tarCreatePath splitPath 
parPath host bkupNum compPath fileExt splitSize outLoc parFile share

Any suggestions why this runs successfully from the CGI but fails at the 
command line?


SamK-01


> I am struggling to create an archive from the command 
> line. The desired outcome is to emulate the clicking of 
> the "Start Archive" button in the web page as this method > is working 
> perfectly. The overall objective is to create > the archive as a cron job.

> Quote:
> From /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_archive
> Extract Start
> # BackupPC_archive: Archive files for an archive client.
> #
> # DESCRIPTION
> #
> # Usage: BackupPC_archive   
> 
> Extract End

> I cannot find the definitions of   
>  and all permutations of my guesses of what > might be required 
> have all failed. Can anyone help or 
> indicate where the definitions are listed? 



> Having read the Description within the files
> BackupPC_archive and BackupPC_archiveHost it appears that > BackupPC_archive 
> begins the archive creation process and > then passes control to 
> BackupPC_archiveHost which uses 
> the settings listed in the CGI (ArchiveClientCmd). 

> This implies that BackupPC_archive could become a cron 
> job and thereby achieve the desired scheduling.  
> Consequently, creating an archive occurs at a predictable > date/time which 
> might be beneficial taking into account 
> the archive will take longer to complete than a normal 
> full/incremental backup.

> If this is correct it implies that when the "Start 
> Archive" button is clicked it is BackupPC_archive that is > started.  This is 
> a little confusing as the settings in 
> the web page refer to BackupPC_archiveHost.


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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-18 Thread samk-01
I am struggling to create an archive from the command line.  The desired 
outcome is to emulate the clicking of the "Start Archive" button in the web 
page as this method is working perfectly.  The overall objective is to create 
the archive as a cron job.

>From /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_archive
Extract Start
# BackupPC_archive: Archive files for an archive client.
#
# DESCRIPTION
#
#   Usage: BackupPC_archive   
Extract End

I cannot find the definitions ofand all 
permutations of my guesses of what might be required have all failed.  Can 
anyone help or indicate where the definitions are listed?

SamK



> 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/11/17 Mon AM 11:15:03 GMT
> To: "General list for user discussion,
>   questions and support" , 
>   "General list for user discussion,
>   questions and support" 
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving
> 
> InstallDir on my system = /usr/share/backuppc
> In /usr/share/backuppc/bin are various files including:
> BackupPC_archive  (Note not BackupPC_archiveStart)
> BackupPC_archiveHost
> 
> The on-line docs at Sourceforge do not correspond with my Ubuntu 8.04-Server 
> LTS distribution.
> 
> At the command line, using the full path, both can be started.  From the CGI 
> it appears that BackupPC_archiveHost is started with the following command:
> $Installdir/bin/BackupPC_archiveHost $tarCreatePath $splitpath $parpath $host 
> $backupnumber $compression $compext $splitsize $archiveloc $parfile *
> 
> Still, it doesn't explain why it it fails to run when scheduled or fails to 
> create a log entry, but works when started manually using the button in the 
> CGI and creates the log entries.
> 
> SamK
> 
> > 
> > From: "Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2008/11/17 Mon AM 09:45:41 GMT
> > To: "General list for user discussion,
> > questions and support" 
> > Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving
> > 
> > SamK wrote:
> > 
> > > The on-line documentation at Sourceforge mentions creating an  
> > > archive at the command line using BackupPC_archiveStart.  This  
> > > method fails as the system cannot find BackupPC_archiveStart.
> > 
> > The BackupPC_archiveStart binary is probably not in your path. Try  
> > calling it using the full path, e.g. /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/ 
> > BackupPC_archiveStart on our systems.
> > 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-17 Thread samk-01
Having read the Description within the files BackupPC_archive and 
BackupPC_archiveHost it appears that BackupPC_archive begins the archive 
creation process and then passes control to BackupPC_archiveHost which uses the 
settings listed in the CGI (ArchiveClientCmd). 

This implies that BackupPC_archive could become a cron job and thereby achieve 
the desired scheduling.  Consequently, creating an archive occurs at a 
predictable date/time which might be beneficial taking into account the archive 
will take longer to complete than a normal full/incremental backup.

Is this analysis correct?

> 
> Adam Goryachev wrote:
> 
> AFAIK, you don't schedule an archive... The scheduling only applies to 
> full/incremental backups.
> 
> Of course, I could be wrong... but that is my experience and understanding of 
> the docs...
> 
I have only recently begun to explore the use of BackupPC and may be 
investigating areas which are better understood by more experienced users.  In 
my view, if archiving is designed not to make use of the scheduling facility 
built into BackupPc, it is a little confusing for the CGI to present the same 
scheduling options as those available for full/incremental backups.

SamK

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-17 Thread samk-01
Having read the Description within the files BackupPC_archive and 
BackupPC_archiveHost it appears that BackupPC_archive begins the archive 
creation process and then passes control to BackupPC_archiveHost which uses the 
settings listed in the CGI (ArchiveClientCmd). 

This implies that BackupPC_archive could become a cron job and thereby achieve 
the desired scheduling.  Consequently, creating an archive occurs at a 
predictable date/time which might be beneficial taking into account the archive 
will take longer to complete than a normal full/incremental backup.

Is this analysis correct?

> 
> Adam Goryachev wrote:
> 
> AFAIK, you don't schedule an archive... The scheduling only applies to 
> full/incremental backups.
> 
> Of course, I could be wrong... but that is my experience and understanding of 
> the docs...
> 
I have only recently begun to explore the use of BackupPC and may be 
investigating areas which are better understood by more experienced users.  In 
my view, if archiving is designed not to make use of the scheduling facility 
built into BackupPc, it is a little confusing for the CGI to present the same 
scheduling options as those available for full/incremental backups.

SamK

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-17 Thread Jack Coats
Yes, the ubuntu install is different from the 'source' install, so the 
documentation doesn't fit exactly.
After trying the Ubuntu package, I had to totally remove it and install 
from the sourceforge files (not .deb either)
The install went nicely, even though it isn't the 'ubuntu way', it 
worked well and the documents were totally in sync.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> InstallDir on my system = /usr/share/backuppc
> In /usr/share/backuppc/bin are various files including:
> BackupPC_archive  (Note not BackupPC_archiveStart)
> BackupPC_archiveHost
>
> The on-line docs at Sourceforge do not correspond with my Ubuntu 8.04-Server 
> LTS distribution.
>
> At the command line, using the full path, both can be started.  From the CGI 
> it appears that BackupPC_archiveHost is started with the following command:
> $Installdir/bin/BackupPC_archiveHost $tarCreatePath $splitpath $parpath $host 
> $backupnumber $compression $compext $splitsize $archiveloc $parfile *
>
> Still, it doesn't explain why it it fails to run when scheduled or fails to 
> create a log entry, but works when started manually using the button in the 
> CGI and creates the log entries.
>
> SamK
>
>   
>> From: "Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2008/11/17 Mon AM 09:45:41 GMT
>> To: "General list for user discussion,
>>  questions and support" 
>> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving
>>
>> SamK wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> The on-line documentation at Sourceforge mentions creating an  
>>> archive at the command line using BackupPC_archiveStart.  This  
>>> method fails as the system cannot find BackupPC_archiveStart.
>>>   
>> The BackupPC_archiveStart binary is probably not in your path. Try  
>> calling it using the full path, e.g. /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/ 
>> BackupPC_archiveStart on our systems.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-17 Thread Adam Goryachev
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> Still, it doesn't explain why it it fails to run when scheduled or fails to 
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> CGI and creates the log entries.

AFAIK, you don't schedule an archive... The scheduling only applies to
full/incremental backups.

Of course, I could be wrong... but that is my experience and
understanding of the docs...

Regards,
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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-17 Thread samk-01
InstallDir on my system = /usr/share/backuppc
In /usr/share/backuppc/bin are various files including:
BackupPC_archive  (Note not BackupPC_archiveStart)
BackupPC_archiveHost

The on-line docs at Sourceforge do not correspond with my Ubuntu 8.04-Server 
LTS distribution.

At the command line, using the full path, both can be started.  From the CGI it 
appears that BackupPC_archiveHost is started with the following command:
$Installdir/bin/BackupPC_archiveHost $tarCreatePath $splitpath $parpath $host 
$backupnumber $compression $compext $splitsize $archiveloc $parfile *

Still, it doesn't explain why it it fails to run when scheduled or fails to 
create a log entry, but works when started manually using the button in the CGI 
and creates the log entries.

SamK

> 
> From: "Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/11/17 Mon AM 09:45:41 GMT
> To: "General list for user discussion,
>   questions and support" 
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving
> 
> SamK wrote:
> 
> > The on-line documentation at Sourceforge mentions creating an  
> > archive at the command line using BackupPC_archiveStart.  This  
> > method fails as the system cannot find BackupPC_archiveStart.
> 
> The BackupPC_archiveStart binary is probably not in your path. Try  
> calling it using the full path, e.g. /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/ 
> BackupPC_archiveStart on our systems.
> 
> 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-17 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
SamK wrote:

> The on-line documentation at Sourceforge mentions creating an  
> archive at the command line using BackupPC_archiveStart.  This  
> method fails as the system cannot find BackupPC_archiveStart.

The BackupPC_archiveStart binary is probably not in your path. Try  
calling it using the full path, e.g. /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/ 
BackupPC_archiveStart on our systems.



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[BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving

2008-11-17 Thread samk-01
I may have missed something obvious but I am unable to create an archive of 
existing backups using the CGI interface and schedule facilities.  All other 
normal backups are successfully created this way.  If started manually from the 
CGI interface the archive is created successfully.

When scheduled via the CGI the Server log shows:
2008-11-17 08:00:00 Next wakeup is 2008-11-17 08:15:00


When scheduled via the CGI the Host log shows:
Blank i.e. no entries


Settings used for testing (have I missed others that are relevant?)
BackupsDisable = 0
BlackoutPeriods = Deleted
BackupZeroFilesIsFatal = Unticked


The on-line documentation at Sourceforge mentions creating an archive at the 
command line using BackupPC_archiveStart.  This method fails as the system 
cannot find BackupPC_archiveStart.


Once archiving is operating as required the next step will be to incorporate 
"ArchivePreUserCmd" and "ArchivePostUserCmd" to enable the archive to be 
created on an external Truecrypt disk; however this stage will be tested 
separately and is mentioned for completeness only.

Any and all suggestions on how to get this working will be welcomed.

SamK


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