Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC usage as localhost

2015-10-30 Thread a.dovi 
On 29/10/2015 19:28, Benjamin Redling wrote:

On 2015-10-29 10:20, a.d...@accenture.com wrote:


- Is it possible that instead of sending the files to /home/backuppc/storage, 
to tell to BackupPC to send the files to a remote computer via ssh scp for 
example

Does Backuppc has this feature or can implement it ? This would remove the need 
to script an additional cron job to export /home/backuppc/storage to a remote 
server when using bpc as solution to backup the server itself



Just to make sure: your are not interested to just use an "archive host"
http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html#Archive-functions
?

Regards,
Benjamin


Interesting solution but it seems to require 2 backuppc servers,  one on the 
host currently backing up itself and one on the archive receiver so it sound 
even more costly than just setting backuppc on the receiver directly to backup 
the host.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC usage as localhost

2015-10-30 Thread a.dovi 


On 29/10/2015 18:23, Kris Lou wrote:

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 2:20 AM, 
> wrote:
- Is it possible that instead of sending the files to /home/backuppc/storage, 
to tell to BackupPC to send the files to a remote computer via ssh scp for 
example

This is confusing.  Did you set your TopDir (location of the BackupPC storage 
pool) to /home/backuppc/storage?  If so, then you run into recursion while 
backing up /home (issue #1 on that link).

Yes we have TopDir like that

$Conf{TopDir} = '/home/backuppc/storage';

And then to avoid recursion, I exclude what should not be backed up we have 
these excludes

$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
  '/home' => [
'/backuppc/storage',
'/jenkins/workspace',
'/jenkins/.m2',
'/jenkins/.sonar',
'/jenkins/.jenkins',
'/jenkins/jobs/SDR_TRUNK/modules',
'/jenkins/jobs/SDR_TRUNK_DEPLOY/modules',
'/jenkins/jobs/SDR_TdTEST_INTEGRATION/modules',
'/nexus/sonatype-work/nexus/indexer',
'/nexus/sonatype-work/nexus/storage'
  ]
};

Are you asking about the location of the pool, or the restore directory when 
"sending the files to a remote computer?"

I mean if TopDir could be set to an SCP/rsync link rather than a local path

As far as I can tell, there's no (easy,built-in) way to separate out one 
client's backups to store in a different location.  Even if possible, doing so 
would remove those backups from deduplication.

But some people simply configure a 2nd BackupPC server to back up the primary, 
or mount the pool remotely via NFS, or configure the pool under a mounted RAID 
set and periodically rotate drives.
Indeed nice idea I think we ll go for a mount of an additional volume, sound 
like the easiest solution and should be compatible with this setup thanks a lot 
=)



Kris Lou
k...@themusiclink.net


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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC usage as localhost

2015-10-30 Thread a.dovi 
On 30/10/2015 17:06, Les Mikesell wrote:

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 6:06 AM,  
 wrote:



- Is it possible that instead of sending the files to
/home/backuppc/storage, to tell to BackupPC to send the files to a remote
computer via ssh scp for example

Does Backuppc has this feature or can implement it ? This would remove the
need to script an additional cron job to export /home/backuppc/storage to a
remote server when using bpc as solution to backup the server itself

No, it won't work.  Backuppc needs to be able to make hard links
between files in the host backup directories and the pooled instance
under pool or cpool, and scp won't maintain that.  For a small archive
you may be able to ' rsync -H' the entire archive directory, but this
is likely to fail as the backups grow.   The best approach is to
simply run backuppc on a different host and let it make the backups
there itself.

Thanks for the clarification, someone suggested me another solution that is
to mount a remote volume in the system, that way I will be able to just
update the local path, sound even better than installing bpc on a remote
server because I keep the administration of backuppc




An NFS mount can work, but there are several disadvantages.   It will
be somewhat less efficient over the network than local storage and
using rsync to access remote clients.  And consider what you would
have to do to restore the system you are backing up if it is broken
and you are depending on its own instance of backuppc to do the work.
 As for administering backuppc, after the initial setup you can do
most of the management through the web interface without needing to be
root on the system.



Indeed if I loose the backuppc instance this is problematic, I think I will try 
to convince our support team to do that rather than asking every server admins 
to send data.
In short I'm doing the job of our support team actually ;(


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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC usage as localhost

2015-10-30 Thread a.dovi 
On 30/10/2015 01:28, Les Mikesell wrote:

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:20 AM,  
 wrote:


Hello bpc users

We are currently using BackupPC as localhost to backup /home following the
recommendations seen here

http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/localhost.html

Everything works fine but we are wondering one thing

- Is it possible that instead of sending the files to
/home/backuppc/storage, to tell to BackupPC to send the files to a remote
computer via ssh scp for example

Does Backuppc has this feature or can implement it ? This would remove the
need to script an additional cron job to export /home/backuppc/storage to a
remote server when using bpc as solution to backup the server itself



No, it won't work.  Backuppc needs to be able to make hard links
between files in the host backup directories and the pooled instance
under pool or cpool, and scp won't maintain that.  For a small archive
you may be able to ' rsync -H' the entire archive directory, but this
is likely to fail as the backups grow.   The best approach is to
simply run backuppc on a different host and let it make the backups
there itself.



Thanks for the clarification, someone suggested me another solution that is to 
mount a remote volume in the system, that way I will be able to just update the 
local path, sound even better than installing bpc on a remote server because I 
keep the administration of backuppc

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC usage as localhost

2015-10-29 Thread Kris Lou 
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 2:20 AM,  wrote:

> - Is it possible that instead of sending the files to
> /home/backuppc/storage, to tell to BackupPC to send the files to a remote
> computer via ssh scp for example


This is confusing.  Did you set your TopDir (location of the BackupPC
storage pool) to /home/backuppc/storage?  If so, then you run into
recursion while backing up /home (issue #1 on that link).

Are you asking about the location of the pool, or the restore directory
when "sending the files to a remote computer?"

As far as I can tell, there's no (easy,built-in) way to separate out one
client's backups to store in a different location.  Even if possible, doing
so would remove those backups from deduplication.

But some people simply configure a 2nd BackupPC server to back up the
primary, or mount the pool remotely via NFS, or configure the pool under a
mounted RAID set and periodically rotate drives.


Kris Lou
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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC usage as localhost

2015-10-29 Thread Benjamin Redling 
On 2015-10-29 10:20, a.d...@accenture.com wrote:
> - Is it possible that instead of sending the files to /home/backuppc/storage, 
> to tell to BackupPC to send the files to a remote computer via ssh scp for 
> example
> 
> Does Backuppc has this feature or can implement it ? This would remove the 
> need to script an additional cron job to export /home/backuppc/storage to a 
> remote server when using bpc as solution to backup the server itself

Just to make sure: your are not interested to just use an "archive host"
http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/BackupPC.html#Archive-functions
?

Regards,
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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC usage as localhost

2015-10-29 Thread Les Mikesell 
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:20 AM,   wrote:
> Hello bpc users
>
> We are currently using BackupPC as localhost to backup /home following the
> recommendations seen here
>
> http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/localhost.html
>
> Everything works fine but we are wondering one thing
>
> - Is it possible that instead of sending the files to
> /home/backuppc/storage, to tell to BackupPC to send the files to a remote
> computer via ssh scp for example
>
> Does Backuppc has this feature or can implement it ? This would remove the
> need to script an additional cron job to export /home/backuppc/storage to a
> remote server when using bpc as solution to backup the server itself

No, it won't work.  Backuppc needs to be able to make hard links
between files in the host backup directories and the pooled instance
under pool or cpool, and scp won't maintain that.  For a small archive
you may be able to ' rsync -H' the entire archive directory, but this
is likely to fail as the backups grow.   The best approach is to
simply run backuppc on a different host and let it make the backups
there itself.

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[BackupPC-users] BackupPC usage as localhost

2015-10-29 Thread a.dovi 
Hello bpc users

We are currently using BackupPC as localhost to backup /home following the 
recommendations seen here

http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/localhost.html

Everything works fine but we are wondering one thing

- Is it possible that instead of sending the files to /home/backuppc/storage, 
to tell to BackupPC to send the files to a remote computer via ssh scp for 
example

Does Backuppc has this feature or can implement it ? This would remove the need 
to script an additional cron job to export /home/backuppc/storage to a remote 
server when using bpc as solution to backup the server itself


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