Re: [BackupPC-users] Download file directly from browse fails...

2008-02-19 Thread dan
Joe, what filesystem are you running on the downloading machine? is it
FAT32?  When I read this I immediately thought FAT32 filesystem, FAT32 can't
handle 4GB+ files.

On Feb 19, 2008 10:54 AM, Joe Krahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mirco Piccin wrote:
  Hi and thanks for reply.
 
  I'm trying to get a backup of a file.
 
  It's size is about 12 GB.
  I try to download it directly from Browse Backup, but the first time
  download freeze at about 3,99 GB, and the second time at about 2,76
  GB.
 
  Maybe there's a timeout for the direct downloading?
 
  I'm going to try also to restore that file by:
  1. picking it in the Browse Backup
  2. click on Restore Selected Files
  3. choose the zip level compression and download the .zip file.
 
  Also trying to restore that file choosing to download the zip file
  does not work.
  Download in this way go at 1kb/s.
 
  For a restore that large I'd use the command line interface, just to
  make sure a browser timeout won't be an issue.
 
  Browser timeout shouldn't be an issue (after only 3,99 GB... - i'm
  thinking at the Ubuntu 4,4 GB DVD .iso image downloaded from web).
 
  You can use BackupPC_tarCreate as your BackupPC user to create
   a tar archive of the files you want to restore.
 
  Well, the restore must be done by a Windows user.
  The restore i'm talking about is of one single file of big size (about
 12 GB).
  Backup ot that file works perfectly.
 
  But download that file -by selecting it in Backup Browse tree or
  creating the zip file- seems to be not possible.
  Any help/tips?
 
  Regards
  M
 Did you check the Apache error logs? Even though you can download a 4.4G
 file, there may still be some timeout problems, especially if the server
 is under a heavy load. It may be timeout settings for Apache, and not
 the browser. (Just guessing)

 Hanging at 3,99 makes me wonder if there is some sort of 4G file size
 limitation somewhere, but maybe this was just a coincidence.

 Joe Krahn

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Download file directly from browse fails...

2008-02-19 Thread Joe Krahn
Mirco Piccin wrote:
 Hi and thanks for reply.
 
 I'm trying to get a backup of a file.

 It's size is about 12 GB.
 I try to download it directly from Browse Backup, but the first time
 download freeze at about 3,99 GB, and the second time at about 2,76
 GB.

 Maybe there's a timeout for the direct downloading?

 I'm going to try also to restore that file by:
 1. picking it in the Browse Backup
 2. click on Restore Selected Files
 3. choose the zip level compression and download the .zip file.
 
 Also trying to restore that file choosing to download the zip file
 does not work.
 Download in this way go at 1kb/s.
 
 For a restore that large I'd use the command line interface, just to
 make sure a browser timeout won't be an issue.
 
 Browser timeout shouldn't be an issue (after only 3,99 GB... - i'm
 thinking at the Ubuntu 4,4 GB DVD .iso image downloaded from web).
 
 You can use BackupPC_tarCreate as your BackupPC user to create
  a tar archive of the files you want to restore.
 
 Well, the restore must be done by a Windows user.
 The restore i'm talking about is of one single file of big size (about 12 GB).
 Backup ot that file works perfectly.
 
 But download that file -by selecting it in Backup Browse tree or
 creating the zip file- seems to be not possible.
 Any help/tips?
 
 Regards
 M
Did you check the Apache error logs? Even though you can download a 4.4G
file, there may still be some timeout problems, especially if the server
is under a heavy load. It may be timeout settings for Apache, and not
the browser. (Just guessing)

Hanging at 3,99 makes me wonder if there is some sort of 4G file size
limitation somewhere, but maybe this was just a coincidence.

Joe Krahn

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Download file directly from browse fails...

2008-02-17 Thread Mirco Piccin
Hi and thanks for replies.

 If you have never successfully restored that file, how can you be
 certain that it's not corrupt in some way?

I'm sure backup works because i've already restore that file via smb
on original host.

  Well, the restore must be done by a Windows user.
 OK, why not use the same method that backed the file up to restore it?

Well, i must restore that file in another machine, that is not in
BackupPC hosts list.

 Many versions of apache do not support large files even when the rest of
 the OS and file systems support them, so there may be a 4 gig limit on
 the server side.

That could be possible...

But i've try right now with a DVD file .iso (4.4 GB).
It works without problem.

So, apache2 is not the problem.

Maybe apache2 + backuppc de/compression of that file could be the problem.
Any other tips?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Download file directly from browse fails...

2008-02-17 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
Mirco Piccin wrote:

 Any other tips?

Creating the archive locally on the server (using BackupPC_tarCreate  
or BackupPC_zipCreate) and then transferring it to the Windows machine  
is not an option?

Nils Breunese.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Download file directly from browse fails...

2008-02-17 Thread Mirco Piccin
Hi.

 Creating the archive locally on the server (using BackupPC_tarCreate
 or BackupPC_zipCreate) and then transferring it to the Windows machine
 is not an option?

Yes, it is an option.
But I'm thinking to an option that not require the console .
Not all the BackupPC user are *nix expert.

I'm thinking for example to a procedure (that a user can call with a
button on the CGI interface) that create the zip and make it available
in a http (not backuppc) folder :
maybe restore the file in a BackupPC localhost folder Samba shared  or
http accessible - but here there will be problems about temporary user
access.

I'd like to solve that problem without add user host in BackupPC and
without use console.
Is it possible?

Regards
M

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Download file directly from browse fails...

2008-02-17 Thread Jim McNamara
On Feb 17, 2008 8:42 AM, Mirco Piccin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi.

  Creating the archive locally on the server (using BackupPC_tarCreate
  or BackupPC_zipCreate) and then transferring it to the Windows machine
  is not an option?

 Yes, it is an option.
 But I'm thinking to an option that not require the console .
 Not all the BackupPC user are *nix expert.


That seems to be the root of your problem. You certainly do need to be a
wizard at shell scripting to run BackupPC, but being unable/unwilling to use
the CLI on your server won't work.



 I'm thinking for example to a procedure (that a user can call with a
 button on the CGI interface) that create the zip and make it available
 in a http (not backuppc) folder :


There's no way for that to work. Most installations have BackupPC run as
user backuppc, sometimes of group backuppc, and sometimes as group www-data,
or whatever the apache group is. User backuppc will not have rights to
write in any apache controlled directory, save its own. That would require
at least some operations being performed as root, which will require human
intervention, or a script created for that purpose.


 maybe restore the file in a BackupPC localhost folder Samba shared  or
 http accessible - but here there will be problems about temporary user
 access.


You also would have the same problem here. BackupPC alone cannot do this, as
user backuppc cannot write to your samba shared directory.  Again, a script
from you or direct human interaction with the CLI would have to happen.



 I'd like to solve that problem without add user host in BackupPC and
 without use console.
 Is it possible?


Very dubious. The simplest solution has already been posted Nils Breunese
from the very beginning of this thread. Use BackupPC_zipCreate or
BackupPC_tarCreate, and then move that file into the samba share directory
or a apache directory yourself.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Download file directly from browse fails...

2008-02-16 Thread Mirco Piccin
Hi and thanks for reply.

  I'm trying to get a backup of a file.
 
  It's size is about 12 GB.
  I try to download it directly from Browse Backup, but the first time
  download freeze at about 3,99 GB, and the second time at about 2,76
  GB.
 
  Maybe there's a timeout for the direct downloading?
 
  I'm going to try also to restore that file by:
  1. picking it in the Browse Backup
  2. click on Restore Selected Files
  3. choose the zip level compression and download the .zip file.

Also trying to restore that file choosing to download the zip file
does not work.
Download in this way go at 1kb/s.

 For a restore that large I'd use the command line interface, just to
 make sure a browser timeout won't be an issue.

Browser timeout shouldn't be an issue (after only 3,99 GB... - i'm
thinking at the Ubuntu 4,4 GB DVD .iso image downloaded from web).

 You can use BackupPC_tarCreate as your BackupPC user to create
  a tar archive of the files you want to restore.

Well, the restore must be done by a Windows user.
The restore i'm talking about is of one single file of big size (about 12 GB).
Backup ot that file works perfectly.

But download that file -by selecting it in Backup Browse tree or
creating the zip file- seems to be not possible.
Any help/tips?

Regards
M

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Download file directly from browse fails...

2008-02-16 Thread Justin Best

 Well, the restore must be done by a Windows user.
OK, why not use the same method that backed the file up to restore it?  
Just choose restore in the BackupPC interface. If you backed the file  
up using SMB, for instance, restore it using SMB! If it was backed up  
using rsyncd, restore using rsyncd through the BackupPC interface.

 The restore i'm talking about is of one single file of big size  
 (about 12 GB).
 Backup ot that file works perfectly.
If you have never successfully restored that file, how can you be  
certain that it's not corrupt in some way? All you can know for  
certain in that scenario is that there were no error messages  
generated when backing the file up.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Download file directly from browse fails...

2008-02-16 Thread Les Mikesell
Mirco Piccin wrote:
 
 It's size is about 12 GB.
 I try to download it directly from Browse Backup, but the first time
 download freeze at about 3,99 GB, and the second time at about 2,76
 GB.
 
 Maybe there's a timeout for the direct downloading?

Many versions of apache do not support large files even when the rest of 
the OS and file systems support them, so there may be a 4 gig limit on 
the server side.

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Download file directly from browse fails...

2008-02-15 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
Mirco Piccin wrote:

 I'm trying to get a backup of a file.

 It's size is about 12 GB.
 I try to download it directly from Browse Backup, but the first time
 download freeze at about 3,99 GB, and the second time at about 2,76
 GB.

 Maybe there's a timeout for the direct downloading?

 I'm going to try also to restore that file by:
 1. picking it in the Browse Backup
 2. click on Restore Selected Files
 3. choose the zip level compression and download the .zip file.

 There will be here a timeout?

 Can anyone helps me?

For a restore that large I'd use the command line interface, just to  
make sure a browser timeout won't be an issue. You can use  
BackupPC_tarCreate as your BackupPC user to create a tar archive of  
the files you want to restore.

Nils Breunese.

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[BackupPC-users] Download file directly from browse fails...

2008-02-15 Thread Mirco Piccin
Hi all.
I'm trying to get a backup of a file.

It's size is about 12 GB.
I try to download it directly from Browse Backup, but the first time
download freeze at about 3,99 GB, and the second time at about 2,76
GB.

Maybe there's a timeout for the direct downloading?

I'm going to try also to restore that file by:
1. picking it in the Browse Backup
2. click on Restore Selected Files
3. choose the zip level compression and download the .zip file.

There will be here a timeout?

Can anyone helps me?
Regards!

M

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