Re: [BackupPC-users] Email Notifications - Via another MTA rather than sendmail
Ken Gregoire wrote: Is there a way to setup backuppc to use a different MTA (email system) where it has to provide a url, username and password to send email notifications. I don't have sendmail on the backuppc system and would like backuppc to send email notifications via a standard email system. what MTA do you have installed? btw, sendmail *is* the standard for mail systems. :) if you mean that you don't have an MTA installed at all; look into one of the send-only MTAs out there, like nullmailer(+debian patches), or similar ones (can't think of the names right now; they all suck compared to nullmailer once the debian patches have been added to it). do a freshmeat search, you'll find many. I use qmail on fedora. I would like to be able to use a username/ password to send mail and I cannot find where you would enter the password in backuppc, or if it is possible. Any ideas? I use qmail on CentOS and I have no problems using the default setup. Qmail has a sendmail interface, so it should just work. Nils Breunese. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Email Notifications - Via another MTA rather than sendmail
Ken Gregoire wrote: Is there a way to setup backuppc to use a different MTA (email system) where it has to provide a url, username and password to send email notifications. I don't have sendmail on the backuppc system and would like backuppc to send email notifications via a standard email system. what MTA do you have installed? btw, sendmail *is* the standard for mail systems. :) if you mean that you don't have an MTA installed at all; look into one of the send-only MTAs out there, like nullmailer(+debian patches), or similar ones (can't think of the names right now; they all suck compared to nullmailer once the debian patches have been added to it). do a freshmeat search, you'll find many. I use qmail on fedora. I would like to be able to use a username/ password to send mail and I cannot find where you would enter the password in backuppc, or if it is possible. Any ideas? I use qmail on CentOS and I have no problems using the default setup. Qmail has a sendmail interface, so it should just work. Nils Breunese. Where do you enter the password for the email account in backuppc? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Email Notifications - Via another MTA rather than sendmail
Ken Gregoire wrote: I use qmail on CentOS and I have no problems using the default setup. Qmail has a sendmail interface, so it should just work. Where do you enter the password for the email account in backuppc? You don't. BackupPC just calls the sendmail binary directly. The default config.pl has: $Conf{SendmailPath} = '/usr/sbin/sendmail'; You might have to alter this if your sendmail binary is in another location. Nils Breunese. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Email Notifications - Via another MTA rather than sendmail
On 07/11 08:17 , ken wrote: I use qmail on fedora. I would like to be able to use a username/password to send mail and I cannot find where you would enter the password in backuppc, or if it is possible. Any ideas? AFAICT, you're misunderstanding how mail works on Unix. Backuppc calls some executable program (the Mail Transport Agent, or MTA) and hands it a big chunk of text (your message). No authentication is necessary for this step, since it's on the local box. The MTA then tries to deliver that message to the next machine in the SMTP chain. This may be the destination machine (where the intended recipient's mailbox is hosted). If that is the case, there's still no authentication needed, since that's not part of communication between SMTP servers on the Internet (this is why you can't easily stop spammers from bombarding you). On the other hand, if all the machines on your network go through another mail server (a 'smarthost'); that machine *may* have SMTP Auth turned on. In that case, you'd need to configure your MTA (qmail in this case) to send the username/password combination to authenticate to that server so it can send mail. Usually tho, the smarthost is just set up to accept mail from the client's IP address (since it's not likely to change, and if the machine is compromised then the username password are available to the attacker anyway so it really doesn't do any good). Does this make things a bit more clear? Considering that qmail hasn't been updated since 1997 last I knew; it may not be possible to set up SMTP Auth on it. (Unless someone wrote a patch). SMTP Auth is really intended for roaming users who are trying to relay mail through your mailserver remotely. Not for machines on your local network. Without SMTP Auth; no password is needed to send mail. (Remember that this was all designed back in the day when you could personally *know* all the admins on the Internet; so they didn't think you needed authentication). -- Carl Soderstrom Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Email Notifications - Via another MTA rather than sendmail
On 07/11 08:17 , ken wrote: I use qmail on fedora. I would like to be able to use a username/password to send mail and I cannot find where you would enter the password in backuppc, or if it is possible. Any ideas? AFAICT, you're misunderstanding how mail works on Unix. Backuppc calls some executable program (the Mail Transport Agent, or MTA) and hands it a big chunk of text (your message). No authentication is necessary for this step, since it's on the local box. The MTA then tries to deliver that message to the next machine in the SMTP chain. This may be the destination machine (where the intended recipient's mailbox is hosted). If that is the case, there's still no authentication needed, since that's not part of communication between SMTP servers on the Internet (this is why you can't easily stop spammers from bombarding you). On the other hand, if all the machines on your network go through another mail server (a 'smarthost'); that machine *may* have SMTP Auth turned on. In that case, you'd need to configure your MTA (qmail in this case) to send the username/password combination to authenticate to that server so it can send mail. Usually tho, the smarthost is just set up to accept mail from the client's IP address (since it's not likely to change, and if the machine is compromised then the username password are available to the attacker anyway so it really doesn't do any good). Does this make things a bit more clear? Considering that qmail hasn't been updated since 1997 last I knew; it may not be possible to set up SMTP Auth on it. (Unless someone wrote a patch). SMTP Auth is really intended for roaming users who are trying to relay mail through your mailserver remotely. Not for machines on your local network. Without SMTP Auth; no password is needed to send mail. (Remember that this was all designed back in the day when you could personally *know* all the admins on the Internet; so they didn't think you needed authentication). -- Carl Soderstrom Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com Carl - Thanks for the detailed explaination, so no SMTP Athentication - okay - I'll see what I can work out. Cheers! Ken - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Email Notifications - Via another MTA rather than sendmail
Is there a way to setup backuppc to use a different MTA (email system) where it has to provide a url, username and password to send email notifications. I don't have sendmail on the backuppc system and would like backuppc to send email notifications via a standard email system. Thanks in advance. Ken - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/