Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: BackupPC problems with Samba 3.0.22+ ? A: blacklist samba
Les Mikesell wrote: On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 14:16, Bill Hudacek wrote: As I said, this is the first time I've seen such a foolish use of something as powerful as Yum. You don't have to run it unattended... Yum doesn't push - your copy pulls. I understand your point, Les - but the whole idea is that I get a nice email every few days telling me what packages were updated on my systems. Rather than having to devote time to it. Once you enable that automatic check download, I still say it's push, not pull --- the receiver is simply asking if there's anything to push :-) I know what you're going to say, and I agree - heck of a tradeoff, I think, between convenience and stability. If this happens again - as it appears it has to others posting in this thread - I'll have no choice but to set a personal task to do this on one or all of my boxen, on a weekly basis...what fun! For now, samba is lights-out. I'll upgrade when I go to Fedora Core-latest. Core-6 test 2 will be out any time now...and will be GA sometime around October... /bill - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: BackupPC problems with Samba 3.0.22+ ? A: blacklist samba
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 12:28, Bill Hudacek wrote: Fedora Core and Yum is a great system for automatically updating your system. but only when you can trust it. This is the first time it's really and truly failed me - and it's been a disaster. If that is the first thing you have had break in a fedora update, consider yourself lucky. It is the nature of that distribution to push new development to users as quickly as possible - and realistically, if they didn't, things never would be tested and fixed. It is usually worth the trouble to get up to date desktop apps which are still developing new features, but you probably want to run important services on something more stable like CentOS. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] You could put samba in your yum.conf to be excluded. vi vi /etc/yum.conf Add the following below [main] like below: [main] exclude=samba-client samba samba-swat samba-common - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: BackupPC problems with Samba 3.0.22+ ? A: blacklist samba
Bill Hudacek wrote: Fedora Core and Yum is a great system for automatically updating your system. but only when you can trust it. This is the first time it's really and truly failed me - and it's been a disaster. No software distributed - and installed - globally, via automatic 'push' methods, should be allowed to change in such significant aspects without giving its users the chance to prepare. It's a huge disservice to the community, and shows a level of conceit I have trouble understanding to allow this to happen. Have you filed a bug (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/)? Nils Breunese. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: BackupPC problems with Samba 3.0.22+ ? A: blacklist samba
Les Mikesell wrote: On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 12:28, Bill Hudacek wrote: Fedora Core and Yum is a great system for automatically updating your system. but only when you can trust it. This is the first time it's really and truly failed me - and it's been a disaster. If that is the first thing you have had break in a fedora update, consider yourself lucky. It is the nature of that distribution to push new development to users as quickly as possible - and realistically, if they didn't, things never would be tested and fixed. It is usually worth the trouble to get up to date desktop apps which are still developing new features, but you probably want to run important services on something more stable like CentOS. I hear you, and I may contemplate switching. This is only at my house, but once you have regular backups running, you tend to miss them when they stop. As I said, this is the first time I've seen such a foolish use of something as powerful as Yum. I still maintain that if there are that many changes, or there are changes of such import that they ***break*** existing environments, they should be included in a major release, not pushed to users at night! When I upgrade to FC-5, or maybe FC-6, then I would be happy to research it by putting it on a sandbox and finding that one needs to completely review in all its gory detail the documentation for a package as complex as Samba. Bug-fixes, and minor enhancements, are by design appropriate for such communications channels. This should have never gone into FC-4. /rant /bill - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Q: BackupPC problems with Samba 3.0.22+ ? A: blacklist samba
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 14:16, Bill Hudacek wrote: As I said, this is the first time I've seen such a foolish use of something as powerful as Yum. You don't have to run it unattended... Yum doesn't push - your copy pulls. I still maintain that if there are that many changes, or there are changes of such import that they ***break*** existing environments, they should be included in a major release, not pushed to users at night! Unfortunately, unless fedora users install these updates no one would ever know what they will do to existing environments. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
