Re: [BackupPC-users] notes on Seagate Free Agent drive

2008-08-17 Thread dan
I second the comment on the reformat.

reasons
1)even though ntfs-fuse is probably the most optimized and fastest fuse
plugin, it is still in fuse and still has everything processed on the CPU
with no DMA at all because of that.  For transfering files ntfs-fuse can be
pretty fast but I/O basically sucks!
2)ntfs-fuse is not a very mature piece of sofware vs a filesystem like XFS
or EXT3 or reiserfs.

basically, you will already have poor performance because of the USB
interface(you did say FreeAgent 'PRO' so i'm assuming) and you will stack
another slow point on top of it.

this may be OK for a number of people do few backups with low file counts
but it should be used in the proper situation.  dont try to do this on a
larger backuppc deployment or you will have performance issues.

with fuse there is a compount penalty that is usually hidden with other
filesystems.  when you need to process something you can typically load it
off disk with low CPU usage which allows you CPU to work on your job at full
speed, but with fuse you have to use the CPU both for loading and for
processing and likely also for writing back to the disk.

fuse is great, but should probably not be used for heavy disk access.

anyway, good luck.


On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Chris Baker wrote:
>
> > A couple days ago, someone asked about Linux and Western Digital
> > external
> > hard drives. This is a response, sort of. I am posting my notes on
> > how I got
> > a Seagate Free Agent drive to work with Linux. I hope this will help
> > with
> > other drives. I make no guarantees.
> >
> >
> > We purchased a Seagate FreeAgent USB drive. Unfortunately, Seagate
> > only
> > supports it with Windows and Macs. It worked find with Windows XP.
> > On the
> > Linux box, that was a different story.
> >
> > Research indicated that the drive was already formatted into NTFS. I
> > knew
> > this would not be an issue as people mount NTFS partitions all the
> > time on
> > Linux.
> >
> > I went to the site www.linux-ntfs.org. I found just about all I
> > needed on
> > that site. I found this page especially helpful:
> > www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsmount. It had some good
> > instructions:
> >
> > First of all you need to download FUSE from Sourcefourge. Then:
> >
> > tar zxvf fuse-2.7.0.tar.gz
> > cd fuse-2.7.0
> > ./configure
> > Make
> > make install
> >
> > Then you need to install ntfsprogs:
> >
> > tar zxvf ntfsprogs-2.0.0.tar.gz
> > cd ntfsprogs-2.0.0
> > ./configure --enable-fuse-module
> > Make
> > make install
> >
> > This installed the ntfsmount command, which I did not have before.
> > But I
> > wasn't quite finished.
> >
> > Apparently the issue with this drive has to do with power
> > management. I ran
> > the command hdparm -Z to "disable Seagate auto-powersaving mode."
> > After
> > that, I simply ran the command:
> >
> > ntfsmount /dev/sda1 /media/FreeAgent_Drive
> >
> > Then, I was ready to go. I could get to the hard drive through the
> > GUI or
> > the command line.
>
> Why didn't you just reformat it with your favorite filesystem?
>
> Nils Breunese.
>
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Re: [BackupPC-users] notes on Seagate Free Agent drive

2008-08-14 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
Chris Baker wrote:

> A couple days ago, someone asked about Linux and Western Digital  
> external
> hard drives. This is a response, sort of. I am posting my notes on  
> how I got
> a Seagate Free Agent drive to work with Linux. I hope this will help  
> with
> other drives. I make no guarantees.
>
>
> We purchased a Seagate FreeAgent USB drive. Unfortunately, Seagate  
> only
> supports it with Windows and Macs. It worked find with Windows XP.  
> On the
> Linux box, that was a different story.
>
> Research indicated that the drive was already formatted into NTFS. I  
> knew
> this would not be an issue as people mount NTFS partitions all the  
> time on
> Linux.
>
> I went to the site www.linux-ntfs.org. I found just about all I  
> needed on
> that site. I found this page especially helpful:
> www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsmount. It had some good  
> instructions:
>
> First of all you need to download FUSE from Sourcefourge. Then:
>
> tar zxvf fuse-2.7.0.tar.gz
> cd fuse-2.7.0
> ./configure
> Make
> make install
>
> Then you need to install ntfsprogs:
>
> tar zxvf ntfsprogs-2.0.0.tar.gz
> cd ntfsprogs-2.0.0
> ./configure --enable-fuse-module
> Make
> make install
>
> This installed the ntfsmount command, which I did not have before.  
> But I
> wasn't quite finished.
>
> Apparently the issue with this drive has to do with power  
> management. I ran
> the command hdparm -Z to "disable Seagate auto-powersaving mode."  
> After
> that, I simply ran the command:
>
> ntfsmount /dev/sda1 /media/FreeAgent_Drive
>
> Then, I was ready to go. I could get to the hard drive through the  
> GUI or
> the command line.

Why didn't you just reformat it with your favorite filesystem?

Nils Breunese.

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[BackupPC-users] notes on Seagate Free Agent drive

2008-08-14 Thread Chris Baker
A couple days ago, someone asked about Linux and Western Digital external
hard drives. This is a response, sort of. I am posting my notes on how I got
a Seagate Free Agent drive to work with Linux. I hope this will help with
other drives. I make no guarantees.


We purchased a Seagate FreeAgent USB drive. Unfortunately, Seagate only
supports it with Windows and Macs. It worked find with Windows XP. On the
Linux box, that was a different story.

Research indicated that the drive was already formatted into NTFS. I knew
this would not be an issue as people mount NTFS partitions all the time on
Linux.

I went to the site www.linux-ntfs.org. I found just about all I needed on
that site. I found this page especially helpful:
www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsmount. It had some good instructions:

First of all you need to download FUSE from Sourcefourge. Then: 

tar zxvf fuse-2.7.0.tar.gz
cd fuse-2.7.0
./configure
Make
make install

Then you need to install ntfsprogs: 

tar zxvf ntfsprogs-2.0.0.tar.gz
cd ntfsprogs-2.0.0
./configure --enable-fuse-module
Make
make install

This installed the ntfsmount command, which I did not have before. But I
wasn't quite finished.

Apparently the issue with this drive has to do with power management. I ran
the command hdparm -Z to "disable Seagate auto-powersaving mode." After
that, I simply ran the command:

ntfsmount /dev/sda1 /media/FreeAgent_Drive

Then, I was ready to go. I could get to the hard drive through the GUI or
the command line.
 

Chris Baker -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
systems administrator
Intera Inc. -- 512-425-2006



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