Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups no longer run automatically
That usually means you have less than 5% of disk space on the pool filesystem - or whatever you configured the threshold to be to stop running automatically. Maybe an email once a day to the admin that this threshold has been reached, and that backups are no longer being scheduled, could be implemented? Nagios/whatever _should_ be used to let you know that: - disk space is almost full - backups are some age But it won't tell you why BackupPC has stopped doing backups - and the less experienced admin won't immediately know it's because a disk space threshold has been reached. Thoughts? Regards, Chris Bennett cgb -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups no longer run automatically
Chris Bennett wrote: That usually means you have less than 5% of disk space on the pool filesystem - or whatever you configured the threshold to be to stop running automatically. Maybe an email once a day to the admin that this threshold has been reached, and that backups are no longer being scheduled, could be implemented? Nagios/whatever _should_ be used to let you know that: - disk space is almost full - backups are some age But it won't tell you why BackupPC has stopped doing backups - and the less experienced admin won't immediately know it's because a disk space threshold has been reached. The 'host summary' web page shows everything at a glance. Look at it once in a while if you care what is happening. And the system will send email after a configurable number of days without backups on a target. Configure what you want there. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups no longer run automatically
On 3/16/2010 6:04 PM, Chris Bennett wrote:
The 'host summary' web page shows everything at a glance. Look at
it once in a while if you care what is happening.
I was just curious how the unfamiliar admin would be able to determine
backups have stopped. From what I can tell, the host summary does not
report if backups have stopped due to DfMaxUsagePct being exceeded.
It doesn't explicitly show why backups didn't run, but if you look down
the 'Last Backup (days)' column, the numbers should all be less than one
if you have daily backups scheduled. If it is more than a day without a
failure mentioned in the 'Last Attempt', it means that it didn't start
as scheduled, and that's about the only thing besides the server or
backuppc service being off that would prevent it. So then you look at
the top of the page where it shows the pool filesystem use.
And the system will send email after a configurable number of days
without backups on a target. Configure what you want there.
But I was able to find a section in bin/BackupPC_sendEmail which will
report this particular case:
if ( $Info{DUDailySkipHostCntPrev} 0 ) {
my $n = $Info{DUDailySkipHostCntPrev};
my $m = $Conf{DfMaxUsagePct};
$adminMesg .=EOF;
Yesterday $n hosts were skipped because the file system containing
$TopDir was too full. The threshold in the
configuration file is $m%, while yesterday the file system was
up to $Info{DUDailyMaxPrev}% full. Please find more space on the file
system,
or reduce the number of full or incremental backups that we keep.
EOF
}
So perhaps the host summary or Server Status page could communicate
that DfMaxUsagePct has been exceeded as well as the raw numbers which
it currently reports...
Didn't know that was even there. Maybe there's a bug that keeps it from
being triggered.
Pool file system was recently at 90% (3/17 09:12), today's max is
90% (3/17 01:00) and yesterday's max was 90%.
I'm just trying to think how it could be clearer, so users don't need
to email the support list :)
Well there are plenty of other things that can go wrong - as you already
understand since you are making backups. So it's a good idea to peek at
that host summary page regularly anyway.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups no longer run automatically
It doesn't explicitly show why backups didn't run, but if you look down the 'Last Backup (days)' column, the numbers should all be less than one if you have daily backups scheduled. If it is more than a day without a failure mentioned in the 'Last Attempt', it means that it didn't start as scheduled, and that's about the only thing besides the server or backuppc service being off that would prevent it. So then you look at the top of the page where it shows the pool filesystem use. I'm just thinking out loud how BackupPC could be more user-friendly to the less experienced admin so they don't get frustrated and email the list, not understanding why backup scheduling is failing. It's a very explicit condition, that the Server Status and/or Host Summary page could easily report on and would make the admins life a little easier. If there's one thing I hate about proprietary backup products it's those little things that you have no power to change and make the product a little less intuitive - at least with BPC, we can fix those less-intuitive parts. Anyway, I might put together a patch to report on this - I'm not sure how active the 3.X release cycle is given there's lots of work going into 4, but perhaps someone will use it... :) Didn't know that was even there. Maybe there's a bug that keeps it from being triggered. :) Thanks for the conversation - BPC is a great engine and some of these more subtle usability could be ironed out to make it have a broader appeal (and enjoyable to use..) Regards, Chris Bennett cgb -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups no longer run automatically
I had over 95% file space usage. I deleted some old files that I did not need. Once I did that, my backups started running again. Chris Baker -- cba...@intera.com systems administrator INTERA -- 512-425-2006 -Original Message- From: elitejones [mailto:backuppc-fo...@backupcentral.com] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:39 AM To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [BackupPC-users] Backups no longer run automatically Really running with same problem of BackupPC,looking forward for more useful suggestion.Thanks. +- - |This was sent by elite.jon...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +- - -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Backups no longer run automatically
Chris Baker wrote: I noticed this morning that my backups had not run over the weekend. They are supposed to be automated and run every day. A full backup runs weekly. Incremental backups run every night or day. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday backups were all missed. This was for every single computer. I'm naturally wondering what changed. I have run the backups manually. However, this is definitely not a good solution. Backups run manually just fine. I rebooted my server, and this did not fix the problem. The only change that comes to mind is that I did one new PC to the backup server last Friday. I have not changed any other setting. Some backups are scheduled to run only at night. Other backups can run anytime. Usually this means that your pool filesystem is 95% full (or wherever you've configured it to not start backups). -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
