Re: [Bacula-users] backup rotation
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 04:06:35PM -0400, Ryan Novosielski wrote: From: Ryan Novosielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Uwe Schuerkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:06:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] backup rotation -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't think recycle oldest volume is necessary. I do not use it, and I have everything set up just fine. You should only need proper retention times and duration/jobs per volume settings. Thanks for the note, I guess I'm having a problem with retention periods then because the recycle oldest volume thingy has worked wonders with my recycling problems in the past ;-) All the best, uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp, NIONEX GmbH (http://www.nionex.com/) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +49 (0)5241 / 80 10 66 FAX: / 806 23 38 Avenwedder Str. 55, D-33311 Guetersloh, Germany GnuPG KeyID: 5887047D, Fingerprint: 2E1320229A3F63 7F676FE9B1A836A461 - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] maximum concurrent jobs for disk device
On Thursday 07 September 2006 10:49, Kern Sibbald wrote: Hello, On Thursday 07 September 2006 09:08, Silver Salonen wrote: Hi. I have multiple bacula-clients backing up to different directories on a disk. Concurrent jobs are working for different bacula-clients as each one of them has a separate device resource with one job per volume. The problem is that every client can run only one job at a time. I'm backing up across internet several filesets per client. One of them (userdata) may be around 20 GB, but another (log) may be only 20 MB. Now, when userdata runs, it reserves it's device for several days as upload is only 100 KB/s so that other jobs can't use it as they have the same storage assigned - Bacula notifies me with waiting to reserve a device. I read Concurrent Disk Jobs from the manual. Do I get it correctly, that If I want several jobs to write concurrently into the same directory, I should have a separate device (pointing to the same directory) for every job of a client? The key to understanding this is to realize that a file Device is virtually identical to a tape device. You can have only one Volume mounted at a time on any Device. So, if you have multiple jobs that want to write to the same Volume on any given Device, there is no problem, you just need to get *all* (the 5 different) concurrent directives set. If you want to have multiple jobs writing to the same Device but using different Volumes, then as in the case of a tape drive, subsequent jobs will wait. You can always add more Devices, in which case, you can have different volumes mounted on each device at the same time. Silver Yup, then I guess I understood this correctly - that I have to have separate device for every job, and separate storage also, right? Maybe it would save some configuration head-ache if it was possible to specify device (as an addition to storage directive) in job's configuration? Silver - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] maximum concurrent jobs for disk device
On Thursday 07 September 2006 10:32, Silver Salonen wrote: On Thursday 07 September 2006 10:49, Kern Sibbald wrote: Hello, On Thursday 07 September 2006 09:08, Silver Salonen wrote: Hi. I have multiple bacula-clients backing up to different directories on a disk. Concurrent jobs are working for different bacula-clients as each one of them has a separate device resource with one job per volume. The problem is that every client can run only one job at a time. I'm backing up across internet several filesets per client. One of them (userdata) may be around 20 GB, but another (log) may be only 20 MB. Now, when userdata runs, it reserves it's device for several days as upload is only 100 KB/s so that other jobs can't use it as they have the same storage assigned - Bacula notifies me with waiting to reserve a device. I read Concurrent Disk Jobs from the manual. Do I get it correctly, that If I want several jobs to write concurrently into the same directory, I should have a separate device (pointing to the same directory) for every job of a client? The key to understanding this is to realize that a file Device is virtually identical to a tape device. You can have only one Volume mounted at a time on any Device. So, if you have multiple jobs that want to write to the same Volume on any given Device, there is no problem, you just need to get *all* (the 5 different) concurrent directives set. If you want to have multiple jobs writing to the same Device but using different Volumes, then as in the case of a tape drive, subsequent jobs will wait. You can always add more Devices, in which case, you can have different volumes mounted on each device at the same time. Silver Yup, then I guess I understood this correctly - that I have to have separate device for every job, and separate storage also, right? No. Please re-read what I wrote. That is not what I said. Perhaps the list can help you on this. Maybe it would save some configuration head-ache if it was possible to specify device (as an addition to storage directive) in job's configuration? The Storage resource already has a directive to specify a Device. Silver - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] dbcheck needs very long time...
Hello Frank, thanks a lot for this info! but :-))) could anybody give the complete info (maybe also modify the wiki-page) how these indexes should be created? For example the already defined index Job.Name is of type BTREE and indexed column is Name with length 128 ... Index TypeLength == File.PathId ? ? File.FilenameId ? ? Job.FileSetId ? ? Job.ClientId ? ? Thanks a lot, Christian -- I sense much NT in you, NT leads to Blue Screen. Blue Screen leads to downtime, downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. - Unknown Unix Jedi -Original Message- From: Frank Sweetser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 2:24 PM To: Masopust, Christian Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] dbcheck needs very long time... On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 07:30:39AM +0200, Masopust, Christian wrote: Hello, is it really ok that dbcheck (check 10: eliminate orphaned Filename records) run more then 24 hours? I started it yesterday in the morning and it is still running On larger catalogs, yes, that is not inconceivable, but it is fixable. http://paramount.ind.wpi.edu/wiki/doku.php?id=faq#why_does_dbc heck_take_forever_to_run -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Fatal error in windows
I got the same error last night but mine was because of a bad AIT tape and it asked for the previous night's backup volume. Is yours the same? Janco v.d Merwe Network Administrator Dunns Stores (PTY) Ltd Switchboard: 011 541 3000 Direct: 011 541 3007 Fax: 086 632 1708 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arunav Mandal Sent: 07 September, 2006 10:35 To: Dominic Marks Cc: Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Fatal error in windows On Tuesday 05 September 2006 23:02, Arunav Mandal wrote: - Original Message - From: Arunav Mandal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dominic Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Fatal error in windows On Tuesday 05 September 2006 10:59, Dominic Marks wrote: Arunav Mandal wrote: On Tuesday 05 September 2006 10:41, Dominic Marks wrote: Arunav Mandal wrote: In atleast 2 clients there is a fatal error. All the config is correct. Errors are given below. 05-Sep 00:48 bergen-fd: backup-bergen.2006-09-05_00.28.00 Fatal error: c: \cygwin\home\kern\bacula\k\src\win32\filed\../../filed/backup.c:500 Network send error to SD. ERR=Input/output error 05-Sep 00:48 bergen-fd: backup-bergen.2006-09-05_00.28.00 Error: c: \cygwin\home\kern\bacula\k\src\win32\lib\../../lib/bnet.c:426 Write error sending 65536 bytes to Storage daemon:sd.troll.no:9103: ERR=Input/output error 02-Sep 13:59 aeryn-fd: backup-aeryn.2006-09-02_13.54.11 Fatal error: c: \cygwin\home\kern\bacula\k\src\win32\filed\../../filed/backup.c:620 Network send error to SD. ERR=Input/output error 02-Sep 13:59 aeryn-fd: backup-aeryn.2006-09-02_13.54.11 Error: c: \cygwin\home\kern\bacula\k\src\win32\lib\../../lib/bnet.c:393 Write error sending len to Storage daemon:sd.troll.no:9103: ERR=Input/output error You are losing the network connection between the FD and SD. Is there a firewall of some sort in the way? If so you might have to specify a Heartbeat Interval to preserve to connection. Try running with a higher level of debugging? Maybe FD Connect Timeout = 5 is too less? There is no firewall but the machine can be slow as lot of processes are there. How to specify Heartbeat Interval and how to run with higher level of debugging? Quite possibly on a busy machine. Google for the last two, well documented. It failed after it started spooling data. Then something else is wrong. I tried reinstalling a number of times no luck. Thanks, Dominic Thanks, Dominic Arunav. Arunav It is still giving errors any ideas why? Arunav. This happens only with some XP machines and here is the output from the spool directory on the SD. Arunav. This communication and any attachments are confidential and intended for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any form of copying or disclosure of this communication to any third parties without permission is prohibited. The contents of this communication and its attachments are not intended to be relied upon in law without subsequent written confirmation. As such, Dunns Stores (Pty) Ltd accept no responsibility or liability (including negligence) for the consequences of anyone acting, or not acting, on information contained therein. If you have received this communication in error please notify us immediately and destroy or delete it. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Dual tape drives
GreetingsI have just loaded the latest version of bacula for debian unstable and so far all is going quite well.One question, however, is I have 2 tape drives and I was wondering if i could stream one job across both of them to either speed up the job, or can i get 1 job to start on DLT1, then when full, continue the job on DLT2?Greet job, and thanksMIke- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Fatal error in windows
Arunav Mandal wrote: On Tuesday 05 September 2006 10:41, Dominic Marks wrote: Arunav Mandal wrote: In atleast 2 clients there is a fatal error. All the config is correct. Errors are given below. 05-Sep 00:48 bergen-fd: backup-bergen.2006-09-05_00.28.00 Fatal error: c: \cygwin\home\kern\bacula\k\src\win32\filed\../../filed/backup.c:500 Network send error to SD. ERR=Input/output error 05-Sep 00:48 bergen-fd: backup-bergen.2006-09-05_00.28.00 Error: c: \cygwin\home\kern\bacula\k\src\win32\lib\../../lib/bnet.c:426 Write error sending 65536 bytes to Storage daemon:sd.troll.no:9103: ERR=Input/output error 02-Sep 13:59 aeryn-fd: backup-aeryn.2006-09-02_13.54.11 Fatal error: c: \cygwin\home\kern\bacula\k\src\win32\filed\../../filed/backup.c:620 Network send error to SD. ERR=Input/output error 02-Sep 13:59 aeryn-fd: backup-aeryn.2006-09-02_13.54.11 Error: c: \cygwin\home\kern\bacula\k\src\win32\lib\../../lib/bnet.c:393 Write error sending len to Storage daemon:sd.troll.no:9103: ERR=Input/output error You are losing the network connection between the FD and SD. Is there a firewall of some sort in the way? If so you might have to specify a Heartbeat Interval to preserve to connection. Try running with a higher level of debugging? Maybe FD Connect Timeout = 5 is too less? There is no firewall but the machine can be slow as lot of processes are there. How to specify Heartbeat Interval and how to run with higher level of debugging? Quite possibly on a busy machine. Google for the last two, well documented. Thanks, Dominic Thanks, Dominic Arunav. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Scratch Pool Question
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Uwe Schuerkamp wrote: I have a question regarding the scratch pool: The docs note that a volume from the scratch pool will be used whenever no other volume is available. Will this work for a tape-based pool (storage=DLT8000), too? Yes. i'd like bacula to switch to a disk-based full backup whenever no tape volume is either available nor eligible for recycling, so I was wondering if the scratch pool definition could be used for something like this. I do not think that Bacula has this capability to switch media, but others will know that much better than me. -- Michael - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Last Friday of Month
That's cool, thanks!!!On 04/09/06, Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Sep 2006 at 17:48, Beren wrote: How do I perform a backup on the Last Friday of the month? There doesn't seem to be a last keyword. Has anyone figured out how to do a monthly backup? I can think of a way to do it.Create a script that determines the last Friday of the month (theremust be something in Perl, Python, or some other language).Invokethat script from the job with the RunBefore.Schedule the job for the 4th or 5th Friday of the month.In the script, if the date isnot the last Friday of the month, abort and the job will not be run.see also http://unix.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical- functional/shellscript-l/how-to-schedule-a-job-on-last-friday-1146391The above script might help you.Does that help?--Dan Langille : Software Developer looking for workmy resume: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] conf.d for bacula conf files?
Hi, I'm reorganizing our bacula backup, and are putting all konf for each client in a seperate file, and then including it in bacula-dir.conf with the @filename syntax. This is ok, but not perfect, i would like to create a conf.d directory and then put all files in there, add the directory to bacula-dir.conf, and bacula-dir would read all files in the directory by it self. I.e. To add a client, take the template, change to your need and save it in the conf.d directory - bconsole - reload and you are done. Is this possible or on the dev table? /Niklas - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Qualstar RSL5116 SAIT
hello, has anyone get a Qualstar RSL5116 SAIT Autoloader got working well with bacula? regards -- Wolfgang Jaede Doormannsweg 43 Tel: 040/43169-283 Systemadministrator20259 Hamburg Fax: 040/43169-110 VCC Perfect Pictures AGGermany Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] external disk recommendations
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, James Harper wrote: Ideally the enclosure would be tough enough for someone to take home each night (probably in a handbag :) without stressing the enclosed drive too much. Even more ideally, it would allow the use of a docking station so that either the whole enclosure could just be slotted into something that connected both the USB and external power, rather than having to plug in the power and USB individually each morning. If the docking station and enclosure could be purchased separately then even better as 10 disks would be used in rotation. It wouldn't matter if the drive part wasn't usable without the docking station... Storcase's Rhino range seem to be the tool for the job (but are expensive) I have them in the backup server here as a just in case inclusion along with a good quality dvd writer. AB - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How to set tape drive settings?
On 7 Sep 2006 at 10:18, Jonathan B Bayer wrote: Hello bacula-users, I would like to be able to set a parameter on a tape drive before opening it (I want to enable the hardware compression in the tape drive). Right now I do it when Bacula is started, but I would like to do it explicitly inside Bacula. Any ideas? Have you looked at Run Before Job? The specified command is run as an external program prior to running the current Job. This directive is not required, but if it is defined, and if the exit code of the program run is non-zero, the current Bacula job will be canceled. http://www.bacula.org/dev-manual/Configuring_Director.html Be aware: I'm not sure of the consequences of having mixing hardware compression off with hardware compression on within the same tape. -- Dan Langille : Software Developer looking for work my resume: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Bacula for mixed file and tape backups
Hi, I've got what is probably a simple question, but the various pool and volume options confuse me. I've got about 250 GB of data I want to backup on a single linux server. These are users' home directories and email. Most of that data doesn't change much, but we don't have a good way of figuring out what is changing and what isn't. We need to back it all up. We'd like easy access to recent files for the case where someone deletes the wrong file. We also want to take full backups (probably monthly) offsite for long-term archiving and disaster recovery. My idea right now is to use a second machine with a TB of disk storage as a near-line backup machine. I would do a monthly full backup and then 30 days of incremental backups to disk. At the same time as the monthly full disk backup, I could do a monthly full tape backup. That tape would be taken offsite. Does this make sense? It seems like the disk backups would be more convenient and faster to manage than rotating pools of tapes. Any other ideas? On the disk storage server, how would I go about setting up my volumes? I think I basically want a full backup with a volume retention period of 25 days and incremental backup volumes with retention periods of 35 days or so. So, if I do a full backup every month, it will overwrite the old full backup. And, if I do daily incrementals, then I will have a rotating pool of 35 dailys. Do the old dailys get deleted automatically? Do they just get overwritten? When I start out, using automatic volume naming, will the system count up to 35, then start overwriting the older volumes? If someone could give me an idea what these volumes or pools should look like in the config files, I'd appreciate it. Or, if I'm totally off base, let me know. Thanks Jeff - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Autoloader: Replace tape in magazine after backups complete?
Well, we just had an autoloader go bad on us. Quantum sent us a new chassis under warranty, but there was a tape in the drive when the unit tanked out on us. Theres no way to get at it manually, and no user serviceable parts. They tell me that the only way to get it out is by disassembling the drive, which theyll do, but the process destroys the tape. So, Im thinking it would be best to have Bacula replace whatever tape its using back in the autoloader when the last job of the night runs. Anybody know how Id configure that? Thanks! --Jeremy Koppel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] external disk recommendations
In my opinion any 2.5 HDD enclosure will do the job. They use laptop hdd's so they do not need additional power supply and once disconnected they are more resistible to shocks. As for performance it is slightly lower, but it should not be a problem. The 2.5 drives are only available up to about 160gb, and the price is a bit steep up at that end. We are competing with the likes of LTO 400/800 drives here... Also, the higher capacity 2.5 drives often do need an additional power supply, even if it's just an additional usb connection. As for durability I'd definitely prefer the 2.5 form factor though. James - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users