[Bacula-users] Renewed question about schedules

2006-09-09 Thread Stef Epardaud
Hello,

I'll try putting the question differently in the hope to get some help:
is it possible to use bacula (the director) on a machine that is not
always on. If yes, how can the schedule work ?

Thanks a lot.
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[Bacula-users] fd backing up fifo's under windows

2006-09-09 Thread James Harper
Has the fifo backup/restore logic in the file daemon been translated
into named pipes under windows?

Eg can I say something like:

Include {
  Options {
readfifo=yes
  }
  File = //./PIPE/somepipe
}

?

Thanks

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Re: [Bacula-users] Renewed question about schedules

2006-09-09 Thread Dan Langille
On 9 Sep 2006 at 13:26, Stef Epardaud wrote:

 I'll try putting the question differently in the hope to get some help:
 is it possible to use bacula (the director) on a machine that is not
 always on. If yes, how can the schedule work ?

I think yes, it can work.

When the box is powered up, Bacula will schedule jobs.  Hopefully 
they'll run while the box is still up...  The box must remain up 
while all jobs are run.

What problems are you anticipating?

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Re: [Bacula-users] fd backing up fifo's under windows

2006-09-09 Thread James Harper
I just attempted to do this, and it kind of almost starts to work, but
the first thing Bacula does is a GetFileAttributesExW on the pipe, which
fails, but I think in doing so has opened the pipe and then closes it,
which tells the writer that the reader (Bacula) has finished.

The error I get is:

Error: Error in GetFileAttributesExW: file \.\PIPE\james: ERR=The system
cannot find the path specified

Thanks

James

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 Has the fifo backup/restore logic in the file daemon been translated
 into named pipes under windows?
 
 Eg can I say something like:
 
 Include {
   Options {
 readfifo=yes
   }
   File = //./PIPE/somepipe
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 ?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: [Bacula-users] Renewed question about schedules

2006-09-09 Thread Dan Langille
On 9 Sep 2006 at 14:28, Stef Epardaud wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 09, 2006 at 08:08:04AM -0400, Dan Langille wrote:
  I think yes, it can work.
  
  When the box is powered up, Bacula will schedule jobs.  Hopefully 
  they'll run while the box is still up...  The box must remain up 
  while all jobs are run.
  
  What problems are you anticipating?
 
 I want to schedule a backup once a day, but the best would be to
 schedule it as soon as bacula starts, but at most once a day. 
 I didn't find a way to do this.

Perhaps you should tell us why this machine is not on all the time.

Do you have any machines which are powered up all the time?

It sounds like you do not know when the Director will be powered up.

What you can do is create a script that will run after the box is 
powered up.  This shell script will run a job manually, much the same 
as I can do a status dir like this:

  echo 'status dir' | bconsole -c /usr/local/etc/bconsole.conf

Does that help?




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[Bacula-users] Restore problem

2006-09-09 Thread Alexander Nolte
Hello everybody!

I just set up a Bacula System that will backup our 4 servers + some clients
but everytime I try to restore some files it just says:

09-Sep 15:35 server-dir: Start Restore Job
restore-server2-usb.2006-09-09_15.35.13
09-Sep 15:35 StorageDaemon: Ready to read from volume server-usb on device
/mnt/backup

And thats it. No data is transfered and it is like the job never existed.

Some more information on the system I set up. I have a seperate pool for the
worstations and the servers. Furthermore there are 2 storages where data is
written to: One storage holds the data from a daily incremental backup and
the other holds the data from a weekly full backup.

I hope someone can help me. Thanks in advance.

Alexander Nolte

P.S.: The Bacula version is 1.36.3


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[Bacula-users] Problem re-labeling a DVD

2006-09-09 Thread Michel Meyers
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Hello,

I'm having trouble with relabeling a DVD+RW. Here's what I get:

1000 OK: shodan-dir Version: 1.39.22 (08 Septermber 2006)
Enter a period to cancel a command.
*label
Automatically selected Catalog: MyCatalog
The defined Storage resources are:
  1: File
  2: DVD
  3: ADR-30
Select Storage resource (1-3): 2
Enter new Volume name: DVD-005
Defined Pools:
  1: Default
  2: DVD
Select the Pool (1-2): 2
Connecting to Storage daemon DVD at shodan:9103 ...
Sending label command for Volume DVD-005 Slot 0 ...
3920 Cannot label Volume because it is already labeled: DVD-005
Label command failed for Volume DVD-005.
Do not forget to mount the drive!!!

The DVD was indeed previously labelled, and I've tried everything from
dvd+rw-format -force to overwritting it completely with DD and even
writting several gigabytes to it using K3b. No matter what I do, Bacula
won't let me label it.

Any ideas what could be wrong?

Kernel is 2.6.17 (stock debian kernel + patches for reiser4), growisofs
is 6.1.1 (Debian Source + Bacula Patches).

Greetings,
   Michel
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Re: [Bacula-users] Problem re-labeling a DVD

2006-09-09 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Saturday 09 September 2006 18:42, Michel Meyers wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm having trouble with relabeling a DVD+RW. Here's what I get:
 
 1000 OK: shodan-dir Version: 1.39.22 (08 Septermber 2006)
 Enter a period to cancel a command.
 *label
 Automatically selected Catalog: MyCatalog
 The defined Storage resources are:
   1: File
   2: DVD
   3: ADR-30
 Select Storage resource (1-3): 2
 Enter new Volume name: DVD-005
 Defined Pools:
   1: Default
   2: DVD
 Select the Pool (1-2): 2
 Connecting to Storage daemon DVD at shodan:9103 ...
 Sending label command for Volume DVD-005 Slot 0 ...
 3920 Cannot label Volume because it is already labeled: DVD-005
 Label command failed for Volume DVD-005.
 Do not forget to mount the drive!!!
 
 The DVD was indeed previously labelled, and I've tried everything from
 dvd+rw-format -force to overwritting it completely with DD and even
 writting several gigabytes to it using K3b. No matter what I do, Bacula
 won't let me label it.
 
 Any ideas what could be wrong?

Well, Richard did report a problem with manually labeling a DVD in the latest 
code, so you should expect some problems.  The way around it is to use a 
LabelFormat so that Bacula labels the DVD automatically.  However, I'm not 
convinced that what you are seeing is related to the problem Richard 
reported.  I may be wrong but it seems like you have not really succeeded in 
wiping out the old filesystem, because Bacula still thinks it is there, or 
possibly Bacula still has the DVD mounted and so is retaining some 
information it should not.

I suggest you try several things:
1. Try labeling the DVD with a different name.  If it reports the same error, 
then it is clearly the bug that Richard saw.  If this is the case, use the 
LabelFormat directive in bacula-dir.conf until we resolve the problem.
2. unmount the DVD in the console.
3. Try mounting it outside Bacula and see if it really has a filesystem on it.  
If the DVD is completely fresh, you should not be able to mount it.
4. Make sure that the Volume does not exist in Bacula's catalog.
5. Look at the DVD chapter in the manual -- it gives a few tips on how to 
reinitialize DVDs.  However, given all the different types, I wouldn't be 
surprised if you had problems.


In the next day or so, I'll try to look into the problem of manually labeling 
the DVD with Bacula.  From what Richard wrote in his last email, we are 
*very* close to having DVD writing working correctly now.

 
 Kernel is 2.6.17 (stock debian kernel + patches for reiser4), growisofs
 is 6.1.1 (Debian Source + Bacula Patches).

It looks like you have all the right pieces to get it working.  As a last 
resort, you might try it with a blank DVD.

Best regards,

Kern

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Re: [Bacula-users] Problem re-labeling a DVD

2006-09-09 Thread Michel Meyers
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Kern Sibbald wrote:
 On Saturday 09 September 2006 18:42, Michel Meyers wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm having trouble with relabeling a DVD+RW. Here's what I get:

 1000 OK: shodan-dir Version: 1.39.22 (08 Septermber 2006)
 Enter a period to cancel a command.
 *label
[...]
 Sending label command for Volume DVD-005 Slot 0 ...
 3920 Cannot label Volume because it is already labeled: DVD-005
 Label command failed for Volume DVD-005.
 Do not forget to mount the drive!!!

 Any ideas what could be wrong?

 Well, Richard did report a problem with manually labeling a DVD in the latest
 code, so you should expect some problems.

Now that you mention it, I think I saw that. I'll have to search the
archives.
 I may be wrong but it seems like you have not really succeeded in
 wiping out the old filesystem, because Bacula still thinks it is there, or
 possibly Bacula still has the DVD mounted and so is retaining some
 information it should not.

 I suggest you try several things:
 1. Try labeling the DVD with a different name.  If it reports the same error,
 then it is clearly the bug that Richard saw.  If this is the case, use the
 LabelFormat directive in bacula-dir.conf until we resolve the problem.
 2. unmount the DVD in the console.

I tried that (unmount, format/prepare, label), didn't work.

 3. Try mounting it outside Bacula and see if it really has a filesystem on it.
 If the DVD is completely fresh, you should not be able to mount it.

The DVD's not fresh (it was previously labelled as DVD-005, but I ran
into trouble when it came to recycling used DVDs so I decided to start
over with 1.39.22 and see how its faring now), but I DID manage to wipe
its fs (I tried mounting it outside of bacula and it indeed failed).

 4. Make sure that the Volume does not exist in Bacula's catalog.

Before starting I dropped all of bacula's tables and recreated them, so
the catalog's fresh and clean.

 5. Look at the DVD chapter in the manual -- it gives a few tips on how to
 reinitialize DVDs.  However, given all the different types, I wouldn't be
 surprised if you had problems.

I'll have to check.

It's really strange, all the other DVD+RWs (14 of the 15 I'm testing
with) worked fine, only DVD-005 refuses to let itself get relabelled.
(Could it be damaged somehow?)

 In the next day or so, I'll try to look into the problem of manually labeling
 the DVD with Bacula.  From what Richard wrote in his last email, we are
 *very* close to having DVD writing working correctly now.

Sounds good. DVDs are about the only affordable solution that could
replace my old Onstream IDE Tape drive. (I love the LTO-2 autoloader
that I have working with my other Bacula install, but its a little over
my private budget. ;) )

I'll keep you updated if I find anything.

Greetings,
Michel
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[Bacula-users] Bacula detects wrong free size on DVDs

2006-09-09 Thread Michel Meyers
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Hello again,

While I'm annoying the list with my DVD writing issues, I just noticed this:

# ./dvd-handler /dev/hdd free
4689526784

Yet Bacula states:
09-Sep 20:26 shodan-sd: End of Volume DVD-003 at 0:491323391 on device
DVD-Writer (/dev/hdd). Write of 64512 bytes got 16384.

... and stops at more or less that size, requesting the next volume:

*list volumes
[...]
+-++---+-+-+
| MediaId | VolumeName | VolStatus | Enabled | VolBytes
|+-++---+-++
|   1 | DVD-001| Full  |   1 | 491,130,010 |
|   2 | DVD-002| Full  |   1 | 491,323,583 |
[...]

My Device section in bacula-sd:

Device {
   Name = DVD-Writer
   Media Type = DVD
   Archive Device = /dev/hdd
   LabelMedia = yes;   # lets Bacula label unlabeled media
   Random Access = Yes;
   AutomaticMount = yes;   # when device opened, read it
   RemovableMedia = yes;
   AlwaysOpen = no;
   MaximumPartSize = 800M;
   RequiresMount = yes;
   MountPoint = /cdrom;
   MountCommand = /bin/mount -t iso9660 -o ro %a %m;
   UnmountCommand = /bin/umount %m;
   SpoolDirectory = /etc/bacula/working/spool;
   Maximum Spool Size = 1600m
   WritePartCommand = /etc/bacula/dvd-handler %a write %e %v
   FreeSpaceCommand = /etc/bacula/dvd-handler %a free
}

Could the spooling be an issue?

Greetings,
Michel
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Re: [Bacula-users] Problem re-labeling a DVD

2006-09-09 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Saturday 09 September 2006 20:20, Michel Meyers wrote:
 Kern Sibbald wrote:
  On Saturday 09 September 2006 18:42, Michel Meyers wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I'm having trouble with relabeling a DVD+RW. Here's what I get:
 
  1000 OK: shodan-dir Version: 1.39.22 (08 Septermber 2006)
  Enter a period to cancel a command.
  *label
 [...]
  Sending label command for Volume DVD-005 Slot 0 ...
  3920 Cannot label Volume because it is already labeled: DVD-005
  Label command failed for Volume DVD-005.
  Do not forget to mount the drive!!!
 
  Any ideas what could be wrong?
 
  Well, Richard did report a problem with manually labeling a DVD in the 
latest
  code, so you should expect some problems.
 
 Now that you mention it, I think I saw that. I'll have to search the
 archives.
  I may be wrong but it seems like you have not really succeeded in
  wiping out the old filesystem, because Bacula still thinks it is there, or
  possibly Bacula still has the DVD mounted and so is retaining some
  information it should not.
 
  I suggest you try several things:
  1. Try labeling the DVD with a different name.  If it reports the same 
error,
  then it is clearly the bug that Richard saw.  If this is the case, use the
  LabelFormat directive in bacula-dir.conf until we resolve the problem.
  2. unmount the DVD in the console.
 
 I tried that (unmount, format/prepare, label), didn't work.
 
  3. Try mounting it outside Bacula and see if it really has a filesystem on 
it.
  If the DVD is completely fresh, you should not be able to mount it.
 
 The DVD's not fresh (it was previously labelled as DVD-005, but I ran
 into trouble when it came to recycling used DVDs so I decided to start
 over with 1.39.22 and see how its faring now), but I DID manage to wipe
 its fs (I tried mounting it outside of bacula and it indeed failed).
 
  4. Make sure that the Volume does not exist in Bacula's catalog.
 
 Before starting I dropped all of bacula's tables and recreated them, so
 the catalog's fresh and clean.
 
  5. Look at the DVD chapter in the manual -- it gives a few tips on how to
  reinitialize DVDs.  However, given all the different types, I wouldn't be
  surprised if you had problems.
 
 I'll have to check.
 
 It's really strange, all the other DVD+RWs (14 of the 15 I'm testing
 with) worked fine, only DVD-005 refuses to let itself get relabelled.
 (Could it be damaged somehow?)

Yes, I think it is possible.  If you follow the link to the dvd+rw-tools page, 
you will see that at some point he talks about DVD+RWs having problems being 
erased, and if I remember right, he even says that they may go bad after as 
few as 20 erases ...  who knows.  What is clear is that Bacula still has 
problems, but thanks to the heroic testing and patch submitting efforts of 
Richard, we are getting close ...

 
  In the next day or so, I'll try to look into the problem of manually 
labeling
  the DVD with Bacula.  From what Richard wrote in his last email, we are
  *very* close to having DVD writing working correctly now.
 
 Sounds good. DVDs are about the only affordable solution that could
 replace my old Onstream IDE Tape drive. (I love the LTO-2 autoloader
 that I have working with my other Bacula install, but its a little over
 my private budget. ;) )
 
 I'll keep you updated if I find anything.
 
 Greetings,
 Michel
 

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[Bacula-users] FreeBSD port for BETA version 1.39.22-20060908

2006-09-09 Thread Dan Langille
I have a FreeBSD port ready for the latest BETA, should you with to 
try it.

 http://www.langille.org/tmp/bacula-server-devel.1.39.22-20060908.tgz

The above port skeleton has been submitted as a patch to 
sysutils/bacula-server-devel and can be reviewed here:

  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=103064

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[Bacula-users] Bacula Update from 1.38.x to 1.39.x

2006-09-09 Thread Jaime Ventura
Hello.
I will expand the use of bacula to a greater number of computers to backup.
Im using the 1.38.x version.
Should I  update now to 1.39.x?
What about backward compatibility?
- Clients (fd)
- Volumes
- Catalogs
- ...

If this is on documentation/bacula page, point me out where.
Thanks

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Re: [Bacula-users] Fatal error in windows

2006-09-09 Thread Arunav Mandal

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 - Original Message - 
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 Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Fatal error in windows


 On Tuesday 05 September 2006 10:59, Dominic Marks wrote:
 Arunav Mandal wrote:
  On Tuesday 05 September 2006 10:41, Dominic Marks wrote:
  Arunav Mandal wrote:
  In atleast 2 clients there is a fatal error. All the config is 
  correct.
  Errors are given below.
 
 
  05-Sep 00:48 bergen-fd: backup-bergen.2006-09-05_00.28.00 Fatal 
  error:
  c: 
  \cygwin\home\kern\bacula\k\src\win32\filed\../../filed/backup.c:500
  Network send error to SD. ERR=Input/output error
 
  05-Sep 00:48 bergen-fd: backup-bergen.2006-09-05_00.28.00 Error: c:
  \cygwin\home\kern\bacula\k\src\win32\lib\../../lib/bnet.c:426 Write
  error sending 65536 bytes to Storage daemon:sd.troll.no:9103:
  ERR=Input/output error
 
  02-Sep 13:59 aeryn-fd: backup-aeryn.2006-09-02_13.54.11 Fatal error: 
  c:
  \cygwin\home\kern\bacula\k\src\win32\filed\../../filed/backup.c:620
  Network send error to SD. ERR=Input/output error
 
  02-Sep 13:59 aeryn-fd: backup-aeryn.2006-09-02_13.54.11 Error: c:
  \cygwin\home\kern\bacula\k\src\win32\lib\../../lib/bnet.c:393 Write
  error sending len to Storage daemon:sd.troll.no:9103: 
  ERR=Input/output
  error
 
  You are losing the network connection between the FD and SD. Is there 
  a
  firewall
  of some sort in the way? If so you might have to specify a Heartbeat
  Interval to
  preserve to connection. Try running with a higher level of debugging?
 
  Maybe FD Connect Timeout = 5 is too less? There is no firewall but the
  machine can be slow as lot of processes are there. How to specify
  Heartbeat Interval and how to run with higher level of debugging?

 Quite possibly on a busy machine. Google for the last two, well 
 documented.

 It failed after it started spooling data. Then something else is wrong. I
 tried reinstalling a number of times no luck.

 Thanks,
 Dominic

  Thanks,
  Dominic
 
  Arunav.

 Arunav


 It is still giving errors any ideas why?

 Arunav.


Still no replies :(

Arunav 


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[Bacula-users] FD Encryption

2006-09-09 Thread Michael Brennen

Configuring for encryption in current CVS, I've followed Landon's web 
page and set up a master key/cert pair and a fd pem file for a 
particular host.  If I only specify the fd key with 'PKI Keypair' Bacula 
loads and starts.  If I include the 'PKI Master Key' directive with just 
the public key, the FD will not start; it gives an error:

 Unable to read private key from file: ERR=error:0906D06C:PEM 
routines:PEM_read_bio:no start line

Anyone have any ideas what to fix here?

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula detects wrong free size on DVDs

2006-09-09 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Saturday 09 September 2006 20:31, Michel Meyers wrote:
 Hello again,
 
 While I'm annoying the list with my DVD writing issues, I just noticed this:
 
 # ./dvd-handler /dev/hdd free
 4689526784
 
 Yet Bacula states:
 09-Sep 20:26 shodan-sd: End of Volume DVD-003 at 0:491323391 on device
 DVD-Writer (/dev/hdd). Write of 64512 bytes got 16384.

From the output you show above, I don't see any problem. It indicates the DVD 
has filled and apparently wants the next DVD.  If this is not the case,
it sounds to me like your Spool Directory filled, which would probably be 
catastropic for the process.  

It is hard to say with only the above info. Important info is the output that 
Bacula should produce when it is writing the parts, a listing of what is in 
the spool file, a listing of what is on the DVD, and a listing of what the 
catalog has (llist volume=DVD-003).  All those things need to be taken into 
consideration.

By the way, you should *not* be turning on spooling in the Director.  I have 
no idea what that will do, probably something ugly.

 
 ... and stops at more or less that size, requesting the next volume:
 
 *list volumes
 [...]
 +-++---+-+-+
 | MediaId | VolumeName | VolStatus | Enabled | VolBytes
 |+-++---+-++
 |   1 | DVD-001| Full  |   1 | 491,130,010 |
 |   2 | DVD-002| Full  |   1 | 491,323,583 |
 [...]
 
 My Device section in bacula-sd:
 
 Device {
Name = DVD-Writer
Media Type = DVD
Archive Device = /dev/hdd
LabelMedia = yes;   # lets Bacula label unlabeled media
Random Access = Yes;
AutomaticMount = yes;   # when device opened, read it
RemovableMedia = yes;
AlwaysOpen = no;
MaximumPartSize = 800M;
RequiresMount = yes;
MountPoint = /cdrom;
MountCommand = /bin/mount -t iso9660 -o ro %a %m;
UnmountCommand = /bin/umount %m;
SpoolDirectory = /etc/bacula/working/spool;
Maximum Spool Size = 1600m
WritePartCommand = /etc/bacula/dvd-handler %a write %e %v
FreeSpaceCommand = /etc/bacula/dvd-handler %a free
 }
 
 Could the spooling be an issue?
 
 Greetings,
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Re: [Bacula-users] FreeBSD port for BETA version 1.39.22-20060908

2006-09-09 Thread Dan Langille
On 9 Sep 2006 at 14:37, Dan Langille wrote:

 I have a FreeBSD port ready for the latest BETA, should you with to 
 try it.
 
  http://www.langille.org/tmp/bacula-server-devel.1.39.22-20060908.tgz
 
 The above port skeleton has been submitted as a patch to 
 sysutils/bacula-server-devel and can be reviewed here:
 
   http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=103064

The above mentioned PR has now been committed and the new port should 
be available in your next cvsup.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula Update from 1.38.x to 1.39.x

2006-09-09 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Saturday 09 September 2006 21:04, Jaime Ventura wrote:
 Hello.
 I will expand the use of bacula to a greater number of computers to backup.
 Im using the 1.38.x version.
 Should I  update now to 1.39.x?

No

 What about backward compatibility?
 - Clients (fd)
 - Volumes
 - Catalogs
 - ...
 
 If this is on documentation/bacula page, point me out where.

Have you read the full ReleaseNotes?

I think it is all documented -- certainly Clients (I say they are backward 
compatible but do not guarantee it) and certainly for catalogs where I say 
you must upgrade (so they in a sense are not compatible -- you need to 
upgrade).  

I'm not sure what the question is with Volumes, they have always from day 1 
been upward compatible -- this is somewhere in the manual.  Note, one 
exception is old DVD Volumes are not compatible with the new format, but 
Bacula DVD writing has always been beta (maybe even alpha), still is and will 
probably remain so even after the 1.40.0 release.

This is a BETA release, so please don't expect it to be bug free or the 
documentation to be complete.  Beta means that there are lots of new features 
(i.e. new code and new bugs), sometimes many are untested. However, the code 
passes my regression scripts (on Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris) which test only 
a part of the functionality, and there are *certainly* new bugs, possibly 
some show stoppers, as we recently saw with multiple drive autochangers ...

As with all software I know of, if you upgrade, it is very unlikely you can go 
back, unless you restore everything you previously had including your old DB.

I hope that answers your questions.

 Thanks
 
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[Bacula-users] WOW

2006-09-09 Thread Janco van der Merwe




Hi,

I've got a couple of questions but first I would like to say that Bacula is something incredible! We are currently backing up 6 servers and the total amount of data is 295GB and the best of all Bacula is writing all this data to an AIT 3 tape which can actually, I don't know a lot about tapes but usually the info given is correct, only take 260 GB compressed and when I saw the amount of data on the tape and Bacula did not ask for a second tape, I thought oh shit the data is damaged so I restored it and to my amazement it was perfectly fine!

My question is, is it normal to take round about 13 hours to backup the data? What I mean isif you take each separate job and you compare it to the time that Ultrabac took you notice that Bacula takes 4 -5 times longer to backup the individual job.Any ideas why, DB maybe?

My second question is, would it be possible to hook Bacula up to the monitoring package, Zabbix,to send out a sms/text message every time a job succeeds/fails or can Bacula do it if you hook it up to a GPRS modem?

And then lastly,as you might come to realize my knowledge of backups is quite dangerous and I'm still learning. Can someone explain to me how did Bacula backup 295 GB to a tape that is suppose to take 260GB. 90% of the Servers are Windows Servers and very little data is text based so how in the hell did it do it without corrupting the Data???

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Re: [Bacula-users] WOW

2006-09-09 Thread Matt Cowger

 My question is, is it normal to take round about 13 hours to backup  
 the data? What I mean is if you take each separate job and you  
 compare it to the time that Ultrabac took you notice that Bacula  
 takes 4 -5 times longer to backup the individual job. Any ideas  
 why, DB maybe?

This may depend on whether you are using compression on the FD's to  
transfer the data.  On some of my machines, they are too slow to  
quickly compress the data, and turning on comrpession actually slows  
down my backups by nearly 3x.  Just a thought.  Perhaps UltraBac  
doesn't do comrpession on the client end?


 My second question is, would it be possible to hook Bacula up to  
 the monitoring package, Zabbix, to send out a sms/text message  
 every time a job succeeds/fails or can Bacula do it if you hook it  
 up to a GPRS modem?

Take a look at the call to bsmtp in the director config file.  You  
could easily replace/supplement it with a call to your favorite SMS  
gateway

 And then lastly, as you might come to realize my knowledge of  
 backups is quite dangerous and I'm still learning. Can someone  
 explain to me how did Bacula backup 295 GB to a tape that is  
 suppose to take 260GB. 90% of the Servers are Windows Servers and  
 very little data is text based so how in the hell did it do it  
 without corrupting the Data???

The 260GB limit is based on compression, and assumes a 2.6:1  
compression (AIT3 is 100GB native, 260GB compressed), but that  
estimate is just an AVERAGE.  In your case, you got 2.95:1 (or more)  
- thats totally possible depending on your data.  Its not just text  
data thats highly compressible - some types of email data, database  
data can also be highly compressible...

--Matt




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Re: [Bacula-users] WOW

2006-09-09 Thread Janco van der Merwe




OH, I see, thank you for the speedy reply, just one thing I did not turn on the FD compression but you know what it isn't that much of a disater. I was curious and hell I haven't seen a backup solution like this before so I'm not complaining!Can you give me tip on how I will replace thebsmtp resource with my sms gateway, as far as I know there are return characters that should be read so that the modem doesn't keep on sending the same sms, how will Bacula read/interperet the return character, how will you set up Bacula to do thisso many questions so little time!!!


From: Matt Cowger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Janco van der Merwe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.netSent: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:11:59 +0200Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] WOW My question is, is it normal to take round about 13 hours to backup  the data? What I mean is if you take each separate job and you  compare it to the time that Ultrabac took you notice that Bacula  takes 4 -5 times longer to backup the individual job. Any ideas  why, DB maybe?This may depend on whether you are using compression on the FD's to transfer the data. On some of my machines, they are too slow to quickly compress the data, and turning on comrpession actually slows down my backups by nearly 3x. Just a thought. Perhaps UltraBac doesn't do comrpession on the client end? My second question is, would it be possible to hook Bacula up to  the monitoring package, Zabbix, to send out a sms/text message  every time a job succeeds/fails or can Bacula do it if you hook it  up to a GPRS modem?Take a look at the call to bsmtp in the director config file. You could easily replace/supplement it with a call to your favorite SMS gateway And then lastly, as you might come to realize my knowledge of  backups is quite dangerous and I'm still learning. Can someone  explain to me how did Bacula backup 295 GB to a tape that is  suppose to take 260GB. 90% of the Servers are Windows Servers and  very little data is text based so how in the hell did it do it  without corrupting the Data???The 260GB limit is based on compression, and assumes a 2.6:1 compression (AIT3 is 100GB native, 260GB compressed), but that estimate is just an AVERAGE. In your case, you got 2.95:1 (or more) - thats totally possible depending on your data. Its not just text data thats highly compressible - some types of email data, database data can also be highly compressible...--Matt







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Re: [Bacula-users] WOW

2006-09-09 Thread Matt Cowger
Personally, I wouldn't send it directly through a modem if you can  
avoid it.  I dont know how the networks are in Zaire, but in the US,  
most carriers offer a email- SMS gateway, so that you simply send an  
email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or similar, and it becomes an SMS.   
If you can go that route, I'd definitly try.



--matt


On Sep 9, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Janco van der Merwe wrote:

 OH, I see, thank you for the speedy reply, just one thing I did not  
 turn on the FD compression but you know what it isn't that much of  
 a disater. I was curious and hell I haven't seen a backup  
 solution like this before so I'm not complaining! Can you give me  
 tip on how I will replace the bsmtp resource with my sms gateway,  
 as far as I know there are return characters that should be read so  
 that the modem doesn't keep on sending the same sms, how will  
 Bacula read/interperet the return character, how will you set up  
 Bacula to do thisso many questions so little time!!!

 From: Matt Cowger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Janco van der Merwe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:11:59 +0200
 Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] WOW


  My question is, is it normal to take round about 13 hours to backup
  the data? What I mean is if you take each separate job and you
  compare it to the time that Ultrabac took you notice that Bacula
  takes 4 -5 times longer to backup the individual job. Any ideas
  why, DB maybe?

 This may depend on whether you are using compression on the FD's to
 transfer the data. On some of my machines, they are too slow to
 quickly compress the data, and turning on comrpession actually slows
 down my backups by nearly 3x. Just a thought. Perhaps UltraBac
 doesn't do comrpession on the client end?

 
  My second question is, would it be possible to hook Bacula up to
  the monitoring package, Zabbix, to send out a sms/text message
  every time a job succeeds/fails or can Bacula do it if you hook it
  up to a GPRS modem?

 Take a look at the call to bsmtp in the director config file. You
 could easily replace/supplement it with a call to your favorite SMS
 gateway
 
  And then lastly, as you might come to realize my knowledge of
  backups is quite dangerous and I'm still learning. Can someone
  explain to me how did Bacula backup 295 GB to a tape that is
  suppose to take 260GB. 90% of the Servers are Windows Servers and
  very little data is text based so how in the hell did it do it
  without corrupting the Data???

 The 260GB limit is based on compression, and assumes a 2.6:1
 compression (AIT3 is 100GB native, 260GB compressed), but that
 estimate is just an AVERAGE. In your case, you got 2.95:1 (or more)
 - thats totally possible depending on your data. Its not just text
 data thats highly compressible - some types of email data, database
 data can also be highly compressible...

 --Matt







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Re: [Bacula-users] WOW

2006-09-09 Thread Matt Cowger
My apologies - your email address was .co.za, so i assumed Zaire.

Didn't realize your SMSs were so limited - indeed a script to attach  
to a GSM phone might be your best route, but I can't give you any  
guidance on that :(.

--matt


On Sep 9, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Janco van der Merwe wrote:

 Fortunately I also don't know how the networks are in Zaire but in  
 South Africa we are a little more advanced that our collegues up  
 North, or so I'm told, something to do with our Apartheid Goverment  
 building an excellent infrastruture which has gone to ruin with the  
 new democratic thingie... but enough of politics. Unfortunately  
 only SP, as far as I know, has that service but you only have  
 limited sms's.5 in total if I'm not mistaken, that is why  
 we have the GPRS modem linked to our Firewall which runs Zabbix and  
 I though maybe I can utilize it but then I have to get another  
 modem, so maybe it wasn't that good idea

 From: Matt Cowger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Janco van der Merwe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:33:43 +0200
 Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] WOW

 Personally, I wouldn't send it directly through a modem if you can
 avoid it. I dont know how the networks are in Zaire, but in the US,
 most carriers offer a email- SMS gateway, so that you simply send an
 email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or similar, and it becomes an SMS.
 If you can go that route, I'd definitly try.



 --matt


 On Sep 9, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Janco van der Merwe wrote:

  OH, I see, thank you for the speedy reply, just one thing I did not
  turn on the FD compression but you know what it isn't that much of
  a disater. I was curious and hell I haven't seen a backup
  solution like this before so I'm not complaining! Can you give me
  tip on how I will replace the bsmtp resource with my sms gateway,
  as far as I know there are return characters that should be read so
  that the modem doesn't keep on sending the same sms, how will
  Bacula read/interperet the return character, how will you set up
  Bacula to do thisso many questions so little time!!!
 
  From: Matt Cowger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Janco van der Merwe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Sent: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:11:59 +0200
  Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] WOW
 
 
   My question is, is it normal to take round about 13 hours to  
 backup
   the data? What I mean is if you take each separate job and you
   compare it to the time that Ultrabac took you notice that Bacula
   takes 4 -5 times longer to backup the individual job. Any ideas
   why, DB maybe?
 
  This may depend on whether you are using compression on the FD's to
  transfer the data. On some of my machines, they are too slow to
  quickly compress the data, and turning on comrpession actually slows
  down my backups by nearly 3x. Just a thought. Perhaps UltraBac
  doesn't do comrpession on the client end?
 
  
   My second question is, would it be possible to hook Bacula up to
   the monitoring package, Zabbix, to send out a sms/text message
   every time a job succeeds/fails or can Bacula do it if you hook it
   up to a GPRS modem?
 
  Take a look at the call to bsmtp in the director config file. You
  could easily replace/supplement it with a call to your favorite SMS
  gateway
  
   And then lastly, as you might come to realize my knowledge of
   backups is quite dangerous and I'm still learning. Can someone
   explain to me how did Bacula backup 295 GB to a tape that is
   suppose to take 260GB. 90% of the Servers are Windows Servers and
   very little data is text based so how in the hell did it do it
   without corrupting the Data???
 
  The 260GB limit is based on compression, and assumes a 2.6:1
  compression (AIT3 is 100GB native, 260GB compressed), but that
  estimate is just an AVERAGE. In your case, you got 2.95:1 (or more)
  - thats totally possible depending on your data. Its not just text
  data thats highly compressible - some types of email data, database
  data can also be highly compressible...
 
  --Matt
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
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Re: [Bacula-users] WOW

2006-09-09 Thread Janco van der Merwe




No need to apologize, a lot of South Africans recon that we are going the same route as our Norther African counterparts, well the white South Africans anyways. Thank you anyways for the tips I'll go do someresearch on the GSM issue but it is a nice thought.

Bill Morgan, I like your signature! They say that some guy decided to write a virus and it was so successfull that they had to give a name so they called it Microsoft... and this coming from a MS guy who decided to try Linux and thus far loving it, just a thought.

Well seeing as it is 00:00 in SA and my wife is already steaming, something to do with me being more affectionatetowardsmy PC, I'm going to bid thee a good night and may the grace from abovebless you all.


From: Matt Cowger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Janco van der Merwe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.netSent: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:46:19 +0200Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] WOWMy apologies - your email address was .co.za, so i assumed Zaire.Didn't realize your SMSs were so limited - indeed a script to attach to a GSM phone might be your best route, but I can't give you any guidance on that :(.--mattOn Sep 9, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Janco van der Merwe wrote: Fortunately I also don't know how the networks are in Zaire but in  South Africa we are a little more advanced that our collegues up  North, or so I'm told, something to do with our Apartheid Goverment  building an excellent infrastruture which has gone to ruin with the  new democratic thingie... but enough of politics. Unfortunately  only SP, as far as I know, has that service but you only have  limited sms's.5 in total if I'm not mistaken, that is why  we have the GPRS modem linked to our Firewall which runs Zabbix and  I though maybe I can utilize it but then I have to get another  modem, so maybe it wasn't that good idea From: Matt Cowger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Janco van der Merwe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Cc: Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:33:43 +0200 Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] WOW Personally, I wouldn't send it directly through a modem if you can avoid it. I dont know how the networks are in Zaire, but in the US, most carriers offer a email- SMS gateway, so that you simply send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or similar, and it becomes an SMS. If you can go that route, I'd definitly try. --matt On Sep 9, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Janco van der Merwe wrote:  OH, I see, thank you for the speedy reply, just one thing I did not  turn on the FD compression but you know what it isn't that much of  a disater. I was curious and hell I haven't seen a backup  solution like this before so I'm not complaining! Can you give me  tip on how I will replace the bsmtp resource with my sms gateway,  as far as I know there are return characters that should be read so  that the modem doesn't keep on sending the same sms, how will  Bacula read/interperet the return character, how will you set up  Bacula to do thisso many questions so little time!!!   From: Matt Cowger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  To: Janco van der Merwe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  Cc: Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net  Sent: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:11:59 +0200  Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] WOW My question is, is it normal to take round about 13 hours to  backup   the data? What I mean is if you take each separate job and you   compare it to the time that Ultrabac took you notice that Bacula   takes 4 -5 times longer to backup the individual job. Any ideas   why, DB maybe?   This may depend on whether you are using compression on the FD's to  transfer the data. On some of my machines, they are too slow to  quickly compress the data, and turning on comrpession actually slows  down my backups by nearly 3x. Just a thought. Perhaps UltraBac  doesn't do comrpession on the client end?  My second question is, would it be possible to hook Bacula up to   the monitoring package, Zabbix, to send out a sms/text message   every time a job succeeds/fails or can Bacula do it if you hook it   up to a GPRS modem?   Take a look at the call to bsmtp in the director config file. You  could easily replace/supplement it with a call to your favorite SMS  gateway And then lastly, as you might come to realize my knowledge of   backups is quite dangerous and I'm still learning. Can someone   explain to me how did Bacula backup 295 GB to a tape that is   suppose to take 260GB. 90% of the Servers are Windows Servers and   very little data is text based so how in the hell did it do it   without corrupting the Data???   The 260GB limit is based on compression, and assumes a 2.6:1  compression (AIT3 is 100GB native, 260GB compressed), but that  estimate is just an AVERAGE. In your case, you got 2.95:1 (or more)  - thats totally possible depending on your data. Its not just text  data thats highly compressible - some types of email data, database  data can also be highly compressible...   --Matt