Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula release strategy.

[Kern Sibbald]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 00:49, Steen wrote:
> Mandag 19 marts 2007 19:34 skrev Kern Sibbald:
> > After receiving somewhat conflicting input (some pro quick releases, some
> > against), I've decided roughly to follow the following strategy:
> >
> > For the immediate future:
> > 1. Observe the progress of our current development work over the next week
> > or two.
> > 2. As far as I can tell, all the code is stable *except* the new batch
> > insert database code, which is not yet of production quality.
> > 3. After a week, if it is production quality, then we will release an
> > update to 2.0.x that contains the whole of the current development code.
> > 4. If after a week, the database code is not production quality, then I
> > will merge all the development code except the batch insert database code
> > into 2.0.4 and release it in the near future  (3 - 6 weeks).


> It is not clear to me if this then includes the features that you mentioned 
> for version 2.2 in the original post. Seems to me that the marked 
performance 
> improvements are so significant that the 2.2 version numbering was 
reasonable

Sorry if that was not clear.  I am talking about the same subject.  This was 
a "conclusion" of the prior email.

> 
> >
> >
> > Longer term:
> > While developing the 2.0.x code, we made some 12 releases to version
> > 1.38.x. The first few, as with 2.0.x, were primarily bug fix releases, but
> > a good part of the subsequent releases were new features, but those which 
I
> > found to be stable and compatible.  I would like to continue this sort of
> > release procedure.  It allows us to make a new incremental release every
> > two to four months each time adding new features.  Please keep in mind 
that
> > each of the 2.0.x releases as was the case with 1.38.x will remain totally
> > compatible. There will be no need as some feared to upgrade lots or 
clients
> > unless you want new features that have been added to the clients.  
Normally
> > new client features don't come along too often, but we will probably have
> > one shortly for 2.0.x for Win32, because from what I understand the 
current
> > client does not run on Vista (thanks Microsoft), so we will very likely
> > release an update (hopefully sooner rather than later).
> >
> > Obviously the above means that the 2.0.x feature updates will be limited 
to
> > those that are stable and cause no compatibility problems.  Major features
> > updates will continue to be spaced at approximately 12-18 month intervals.
> >
> > Basically this means maintaining the status quo.  If someone has some
> > problems with this, now is the time to speak up.
> Depends on the answer above, as those features are some that I personally 
just 
> can't wait to see
> 
> Otherwise it seems as a very good way to keep a stable release for a 
> reasonable length of time. I am still running 1.38 because it does what I 
> need it to do, but just those performance improvements give me a good reason 
> to upgrade, and it is nice if it will then last a while.
> >

Yes, I don't see any reason to wait for users to benefit from the speed up 
offered by the red/black restore tree code.  For me, this is the main 
improvement aside from the database batch insert code.


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Re: [Bacula-users] Storage Daemon building

[Kern Sibbald]

On Tuesday 20 March 2007 02:41, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
> Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > The SD does not "currently" need/use the DB (this will probably chang).
> > However, some of the other tools that are built with the SD do need the 
DB,
> > therefore the dependence.  If you want ONLY the SD, for the current time, 
you
> > can build it with any DB and it will work.
> 
> Out of curiosity, what -- down the line -- would the -sd require a
> database for? Config info?

Config info in the database -- never.  Only people who have never done a bare 
metal recovery would think of such an implementation :-).

bscan built into the SD.  However, I *might* do that through the Director ...


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Re: [Bacula-users] Two SDs (file) - Strange behavior...

[Rob MacGregor]

On 3/19/07, Arthur Emerson III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have had Bacula 1.38.x (and 1.36.x) running on a server with
> a 3ware RAID controller for over a year now, and swear *at* the
> 3ware controller instead of swear by it like most other people.

My experience is that, as long as you're not using RAID5, they're
fantastic.  The onboard RAID5 implementation however performs *very*
badly.  Strangely the onboard RAID50 implementation performs just as
well as all the other options (including the misnamed RAID0).

Worth doing some simple performance benchmarking (dd if=/dev/sdX
of=/dev/sdX1 count=200) to get a rough indicator.  Also worth
watching the WIO field of top to see if you're heavily I/O bound.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Storage Daemon building

[Troy Daniels]

Hi,

Ryan Novosielski wrote:
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> Kern Sibbald wrote:
>> The SD does not "currently" need/use the DB (this will probably chang).  
>> However, some of the other tools that are built with the SD do need the DB, 
>> therefore the dependence.  If you want ONLY the SD, for the current time, 
>> you 
>> can build it with any DB and it will work.
> 
> Out of curiosity, what -- down the line -- would the -sd require a
> database for? Config info?
> 

I personally guessed it was for the direct updating/storing of attributes - 
currently these are 'routed' thru the director aren't they?

There are probably other reasons tho.

Cheers,


Troy Daniels.


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Re: [Bacula-users] Feature request: dynamic configuration files

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Andreas Helmcke wrote:
> Jorj Bauer wrote:
>> What: The ability to read a configuration file as stdout from an executable
>>
>> Why: The configuration files (particularly for the Director) are very
>>  complex. In my case I find it easier to have a program generate them
>>  from meta-information about the clients.
>>
>> Notes:
>>
>> The attached patch implements this. It's a simple change to lex.c, and
>> functions globally: if the first character of any configuration file's
>> name is a pipe ("|"), then the rest of the "filename" is considered to
>> be the path to an executable. The program is run, stdout is read, and
>> the output is the configuration file.
>>
>> For example, starting the director like this:
>>
>>  # bacula-dir -c '|/usr/local/sbin/generate-dir-config'
> 
> Maybe I am missing some important point, but by now I can't see any mayor
> benefits of your solution compared with:
> 
>  # /usr/local/sbin/generate-dir-config > /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf &&
> bacula-dir -c /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf

I myself can't see the point of generate-dir-config. I know this is just
an example, but what might this script/program do that a flat file
can't? Maybe I'm missing something neat here, but I'm curious what one
would want to do with such a thing.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula 2.0.3-1 released for SuSE 10.1 and 10.2 (x86_64)

[Arno Lehmann]

Hi,

On 3/19/2007 11:14 AM, Alan Brown wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> 
 Has anyone built a bacula-fd for suse-9 at all?
>>> Yes. No rpms here, though.
>>>
>>> I'm quite sure someone else will have an rpm soon for the FD at least.
>> Hopefully the above is true, but if I recall correctly, the Bacula project
>> (i.e. Scott) is no longer supporting SuSE 9.
> 
> I've previously discussed with Scott about making bacula-fd-static 
> binaries available (where possible) for use on obsolete systems.
> 
> While I realise it's not always possible to make a full -static set, 99% 
> of the time the filedaemon is the only thing needed - in order to keep 
> backing up older systems until they're replaced.

Ok, I have an FD for SuSE 9.2 which should also work on SLES9. 
Statically linking was not possible, after some playing around, I always 
ended up with:

elf:/srv/nfsexport/bacula/bacula-2.0.2 > grep Static ./config.out
   Statically Linked Tools:no
   Statically Linked FD:   yes
   Statically Linked SD:   no
   Statically Linked DIR:  no
   Statically Linked CONS: no
elf:/srv/nfsexport/bacula/bacula-2.0.2 > ldd src/filed/bacula-fd
 linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xe000)
 libacl.so.1 => /lib/libacl.so.1 (0x4002f000)
 libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0x40035000)
 libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 (0x40047000)
 libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x40059000)
 libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x40116000)
 libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x40139000)
 libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x40141000)
 libattr.so.1 => /lib/libattr.so.1 (0x40257000)
 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
elf:/srv/nfsexport/bacula/bacula-2.0.2 >

I can not find static .a libraries for linux-gate (whatever that is) and 
libattr, so I assume these might be one reason for not having a static 
FD possible.

Anyway, as far as I can see the FD should run on minimal 
SLES9-installation, perhaps even when running a recovery version from 
DVD and accessing the FD binary and configuration via nfs or similar.

I can mail the FD, or put it onto a web site if there is need for it. 
244k stripped, and here is a checksum: 
f2333e592204ae69800b265936ccfac05aa08c79  src/filed/bacula-fd-stripped

> Right now I can imagine several people asking why I don't just update

No need to explain that - I still have SuSE 8.1 running my Bacula server :-)

> and 
> the answer is simple

My answer would be even simpler :-)

> - we are a space lab, supporting projects which may 
> run for a decade or more and a lot of the time the software is binary-only 
> and keyed to a particular machine and/or OS(*) - which means we are locked 
> into using that machine or OS until the probe in question (somewhere 
> around the solar system) finally dies.

Which would be the time when you don't need a FD for it any more, any 
suppose...

> 
> (*) Sometimes we have sources and find that the person who wrote the code 
> is long gone, or the code is very tightly coded to the OS - but more often 
> it's just so incredibly badly written that it's totally non-portable. 
> Rocket Scientists are some of the lousiest programmers on the planet.

That's because you don't have to be a rocket scientist to write code ;-)

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Re: [Bacula-users] Feature request: dynamic configuration files

[Jorj Bauer]

> Maybe I am missing some important point, but by now I can't see any mayor
> benefits of your solution compared with:
> 
>  # /usr/local/sbin/generate-dir-config > /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf &&
> bacula-dir -c /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf

It's subtle. You're missing the 'reload' command.

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Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula release strategy.

[Steen]

Mandag 19 marts 2007 19:34 skrev Kern Sibbald:
> After receiving somewhat conflicting input (some pro quick releases, some
> against), I've decided roughly to follow the following strategy:
>
> For the immediate future:
> 1. Observe the progress of our current development work over the next week
> or two.
> 2. As far as I can tell, all the code is stable *except* the new batch
> insert database code, which is not yet of production quality.
> 3. After a week, if it is production quality, then we will release an
> update to 2.0.x that contains the whole of the current development code.
> 4. If after a week, the database code is not production quality, then I
> will merge all the development code except the batch insert database code
> into 2.0.4 and release it in the near future  (3 - 6 weeks).
It is not clear to me if this then includes the features that you mentioned 
for version 2.2 in the original post. Seems to me that the marked performance 
improvements are so significant that the 2.2 version numbering was reasonable

>
>
> Longer term:
> While developing the 2.0.x code, we made some 12 releases to version
> 1.38.x. The first few, as with 2.0.x, were primarily bug fix releases, but
> a good part of the subsequent releases were new features, but those which I
> found to be stable and compatible.  I would like to continue this sort of
> release procedure.  It allows us to make a new incremental release every
> two to four months each time adding new features.  Please keep in mind that
> each of the 2.0.x releases as was the case with 1.38.x will remain totally
> compatible. There will be no need as some feared to upgrade lots or clients
> unless you want new features that have been added to the clients.  Normally
> new client features don't come along too often, but we will probably have
> one shortly for 2.0.x for Win32, because from what I understand the current
> client does not run on Vista (thanks Microsoft), so we will very likely
> release an update (hopefully sooner rather than later).
>
> Obviously the above means that the 2.0.x feature updates will be limited to
> those that are stable and cause no compatibility problems.  Major features
> updates will continue to be spaced at approximately 12-18 month intervals.
>
> Basically this means maintaining the status quo.  If someone has some
> problems with this, now is the time to speak up.
Depends on the answer above, as those features are some that I personally just 
can't wait to see

Otherwise it seems as a very good way to keep a stable release for a 
reasonable length of time. I am still running 1.38 because it does what I 
need it to do, but just those performance improvements give me a good reason 
to upgrade, and it is nice if it will then last a while.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Kern
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Re: [Bacula-users] Two SDs (file) - Strange behavior...

[Arthur Emerson III]

"James Bass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On both are 3ware cards with disks that are allocated to the directory
> that holds the backup file storage (/bacula-nn).
[snip]
>
> Also, during the slowdown, mysqld is being hit extremely hard.
>
> Now, if I switch the order of the "Storage" lines in the "Pool" section,
> and restart the director, bconsole becomes snappy again, and backups to
> the pool go to backup2.  Mysqld is not taxed at all after the order is
> switched
>
> Does any one have any idea on this?

I have had Bacula 1.38.x (and 1.36.x) running on a server with
a 3ware RAID controller for over a year now, and swear *at* the
3ware controller instead of swear by it like most other people.

Don't know if the thing is a pile of toss, if there's driver
problems, or if maybe the motherboard is incompatible with the
3ware card, but disk I/O actually seems to be faster through a
USB2 disk drive on the same server than it is to SATA disks on
the 3ware card!  When I finally got around to hooking up a SCSI
LTO tape drive to this server last month and found the tape to be
faster as a backup media than the disks, I realized just how
bad the disk throughput really was.  It seems to me like the
major problem is limited to huge sequential reads/writes like
Bacula does to monster backup files, but that's besides the point.

In any case, the description of your problem above sounds like
disk throughput problems just like I'm seeing, and if you have
30+ second delays even trying to logon to the system at the
console when things slow down then you are surely seeing the
same problem.  The MySQL problem is another symptom of a disk
bottleneck, especially if that disk partition is also on the
3ware controller.

If I'm correct in my diagnosis, the explanation for your
increased performance after swapping the parameters in the
config file is because you re-started the daemons...which
stopped the file processing backlog and let the disks catch up.
Having a second storage daemon and disk controller is
probably a little bit of a plus to better disk throughput
as well.

Of course, I may be wrong, but my $0.02 is to start by
checking the disk throughput on your "backup1" box before
you dig any deeper into Bacula's configuration.

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[Bacula-users] Any experience with Quantum DLT-S4 ?

[Mehmet Soysal]

Hi,
is somebody using a Quantum DLT-S4 drive with Bacula ?
I'm looking for a tape drive with a huge uncompressed capacity on a
single tape and
the DLT-S4 drive seems to have the most capacity.

But i'm not sure if it is fully usable.




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Re: [Bacula-users] Storage Daemon building

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Kern Sibbald wrote:
> The SD does not "currently" need/use the DB (this will probably chang).  
> However, some of the other tools that are built with the SD do need the DB, 
> therefore the dependence.  If you want ONLY the SD, for the current time, you 
> can build it with any DB and it will work.

Out of curiosity, what -- down the line -- would the -sd require a
database for? Config info?

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Re: [Bacula-users] Corrupt tape label

[Arno Lehmann]

Hi,

On 3/19/2007 11:30 AM, Pierre Bernhardt wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I got a problem with one tape which have a corrupt label so
> bacula cannot mount them.
> I checked with btape too: readlabel could not found the
> original label.
> 
> The tape is in use of my weekly backups.

Perhaps because the volume was in use by Bacula, then, for some reason, 
rewound without Bacula noticing that. Then the next job was written to 
the tape, without repositioning first, and thus you don't have a correct 
tape label anymore.

> Now my serious problem:
> A job has been startet.
> Bacula has loaded the tape an wants to mount it. But it cannot
> because of the label was not found.
> Now bacula wait and wait and wait..so I must cancel the jobs
> which will go on these tape. I think auto cancel of the job I can
> configure on job level.

You don't have to cancel jobs in this case.

> To reread which tape is in which port I have updated the media list
> by an
> 
> umount
> update slots scan. At Slot 6 which contains the corrupt tape I got a
> message.
> 
> A update slots=6 scan again said:
> 
> Could not unserialize Volume label: ERR=label.c:775 Expecting Volume
> Label, got FI=SOS_LABEL Stream=141 len=162.
> 
> Here a problem:
> 
> But the tape will be still loading at next backup so I have now disabled
> the volume which should contains the slot.
> 
> 1. Is there a way to use an Error status instead of an disabling? (Not
>important but shows that there is a problem with this tape).
>Disabled status tapes could not purge, later.

'update volume=... volstatus=Error' might work.

> 2. Because of the corrupt label I think all backups stored on the tape
>and the following incrementals are no more readable so I want to
>purge/prune them. I did this without any problem after setting the
>status back to Full. Any other idea?

Either delete all the jobs stored on this tape (nominally), or simply 
delete and recreate the volume.

> 3. Here I found possible an bug:
>I have to delete the volume so I used update which didn't helped me:
> 
> *update
> Update choice:
>  1: Volume parameters
>  2: Pool from resource
>  3: Slots from autochanger
> Choose catalog item to update (1-3): 3
> The defined Storage resources are:
>  1: File
>  2: Libra-8
> Select Storage resource (1-2): 2
> Connecting to Storage daemon Libra-8 at spaceetch.privatnet:9103 ...
> Connecting to Storage daemon Libra-8 at spaceetch.privatnet:9103 ...
> 3306 Issuing autochanger "slots" command.
> Device "Libra-8" has 8 slots.
> Connecting to Storage daemon Libra-8 at spaceetch.privatnet:9103 ...
> 3306 Issuing autochanger "list" command.
> No Volumes found to label, or no barcodes.
> 
>   So I used different one to check how I can delete the volume from
>   the database. A update than slots didn't helped me.
> 
>   Any idea how I can delete the media from bacula?

The 'delete media' command.

> 4. update command can move a volume to an slot number which didn't
>   exist on the tape library (12 for example). Not dau friendly :-)

True, but unfortunately there is no way for Bacula to know how many 
slots your library *really* has. The output from mtx usually does give 
the correct result, but that is only used by the SD (or rather, the DIR 
has to ask the SD for it), and doing this for a manual catalog update 
might result in other problems. For example if your autochanger is not 
working correctly and you have to update the tape poitions manually.

In your situation, I'd delete the jobs from volume in question, set the 
volstatus to used, prune the volume, so it gets marked as empty, and use 
btape to recreate the previous label.

Arno

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Re: [Bacula-users] Feature request: dynamic configuration files

[Andreas Helmcke]

Jorj Bauer wrote:
> What: The ability to read a configuration file as stdout from an executable
> 
> Why: The configuration files (particularly for the Director) are very
>   complex. In my case I find it easier to have a program generate them
>   from meta-information about the clients.
> 
> Notes:
> 
> The attached patch implements this. It's a simple change to lex.c, and
> functions globally: if the first character of any configuration file's
> name is a pipe ("|"), then the rest of the "filename" is considered to
> be the path to an executable. The program is run, stdout is read, and
> the output is the configuration file.
> 
> For example, starting the director like this:
> 
>   # bacula-dir -c '|/usr/local/sbin/generate-dir-config'

Maybe I am missing some important point, but by now I can't see any mayor
benefits of your solution compared with:

 # /usr/local/sbin/generate-dir-config > /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf &&
bacula-dir -c /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf


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Re: [Bacula-users] Corrupted volume. How do I recover?

[John Drescher]

> In fact it is the other way round -- the job was 118GB.  Possibly the start of
> the job is on A00010?
>
Martin,
Thank You!

User error... I guess I could put some blame on the messed up
formatting on my gnome console.

This is a good thing then as I will only need to redo a single backup.
I now feel confident to purge tape A00023 and run another incremental
HOLOGICArchive-Job job.

Thanks again,
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Re: [Bacula-users] Corrupted volume. How do I recover?

[Martin Simmons]

> On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:56:33 -0400, John Drescher said:
> 
> > > Now this tape (3rd in an archive pool) had 34GB of backups on it the
> > > first question I have is how do I find out what jobs were run on this
> > > volume?
> >
> > I found this one. Use the query command from the console.
> >
> query
> Available queries:
>  1: List up to 20 places where a File is saved regardless of the directory
>  2: List where the most recent copies of a file are saved
>  3: List last 20 Full Backups for a Client
>  4: List all backups for a Client after a specified time
>  5: List all backups for a Client
>  6: List Volume Attributes for a selected Volume
>  7: List Volumes used by selected JobId
>  8: List Volumes to Restore All Files
>  9: List Pool Attributes for a selected Pool
> 10: List total files/bytes by Job
> 11: List total files/bytes by Volume
> 12: List Files for a selected JobId
> 13: List Jobs stored on a selected MediaId
> 14: List Jobs stored for a given Volume name
> 15: List Volumes Bacula thinks are in changer
> 16: List Volumes likely to need replacement from age or errors
> Choose a query (1-16): 14
> Enter Volume name: A00023
> +---++-+--+---++-++
> | jobid | name   | starttime   | type | level | files  | 
> bytes   | status |
> +---++-+--+---++-++
> | 3,867 | HOLOGICArchive-Job | 2007-03-12 15:17:46 | B| I | 13,216 | 
> 118,405,453,610 | T  |
> +---++-+--+---++-++
> 
> It says there is only one job on the tape which I worry about as it
> says there are ~34GB of data on the tape but since this job only had
> 13GB where was the other data from?
> 
> list media pool=LTO2-Archived-Data
> +-++---+-+-+--+--+-+--+---+---+-+
> | mediaid | volumename | volstatus | enabled | volbytes| volfiles | 
> volretention | recycle | slot | inchanger | mediatype | lastwritten |
> +-++---+-+-+--+--+-+--+---+---+-+
> | 121 | A8 | Full  |   1 | 293,324,113,143 |  301 |   
> 31,536,000 |   0 |8 | 1 | LTO-2 | 2006-10-17 14:37:37 |
> | 135 | A00010 | Archive   |   1 | 262,766,020,608 |  269 |   
> 31,536,000 |   0 |   10 | 1 | LTO-2 | 2007-03-12 16:27:04 |
> | 154 | A00023 | Append|   1 |  32,146,910,208 |   33 |   
> 31,536,000 |   0 |   21 | 1 | LTO-2 | 2007-03-12 16:58:42 |

In fact it is the other way round -- the job was 118GB.  Possibly the start of
the job is on A00010?

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Re: [Bacula-users] Corrupted volume. How do I recover?

[Martin Simmons]

> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:28:03 -0400, John Drescher said:
> 
> I believe I confused bacula by restarting the sd with my tapes mounted
> in my autochanger. The end result is one of the tapes appears to have
> been corrupted:
> 
> 15-Mar 16:12 dev6-sd: 3305 Autochanger "load slot 21, drive 1", status is OK.
> 15-Mar 16:12 dev6-sd: 3301 Issuing autochanger "loaded? drive 1" command.
> 15-Mar 16:12 dev6-sd: 3302 Autochanger "loaded? drive 1", result is Slot 21.
> 15-Mar 16:12 dev6-sd: PLuSSArchive-Job.2007-03-15_16.06.16 Error:
> block.c:275 Volume data error at 0:0! Wanted ID: "BB02", got "".
> Buffer discarded.
> 
> I try bls and I get more of the same:
> # bls -c /etc/bacula/bacula-sd.conf -V* /dev/nst1 -L
> bls: butil.c:283 Using device: "/dev/nst1" for reading.
> 15-Mar 17:14 bls: Invalid slot=0 defined, cannot autoload Volume.
> 15-Mar 17:14 bls: 3301 Issuing autochanger "loaded? drive 1" command.
> 15-Mar 17:14 bls: 3302 Autochanger "loaded? drive 1", result is Slot 21.
> 15-Mar 17:14 bls: bls Error: block.c:275 Volume data error at 0:0!
> Wanted ID: "BB02", got "". Buffer discarded.
> 
> Now this tape (3rd in an archive pool) had 34GB of backups on it the
> first question I have is how do I find out what jobs were run on this
> volume? Also If I purge the volume which should contain 2 to 4
> incremental jobs can I run an incremental backup again on the data so
> that bacula backups any files that were new along with the purged
> files. Or will bacula try to do a full backup?

It will run an incremental again as long as it can find the Full backup job.
The output of list jobs should show which jobs it knows about.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and HP MSL2024 autochanger

[John Goerzen]

On 2007-03-16, Marc Cuypers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has someone bacula working with a HP MSL2024 autochanger?

We have it working with an MSL4048, which from what I understand is very
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[Bacula-users] Two SDs (file) - Strange behavior...

[James Bass]

Hello all.  I'm 99% positive either I'm doing the configuration wrong - but 
I've read the manual and archives (maybe missing the answer) and have no clue 
as to what is going on...

I have the following setup - One machine running bacula-dir and bacula-sd 
(named backup1), another machine running bacula-sd (named backup2).  I am using 
file storage on both.  

On both are 3ware cards with disks that are allocated to the directory that 
holds the backup file storage (/bacula-nn).  My plan was to use a pool, and 
have bacula send the jobs to them as determined by the director.

Well, everything *sort of* works.  The problems I've encountered are as follows:

When backup1's disk space fills up, bconsole becomes practically unusable, as 
it slows down severely.  During this time I see a lot of these messages:

19-Mar 15:54 backup1.mydomain.com: ERROR in authenticate.c:382 Unable to 
authenticate console "*UserAgent*" at client:172.16.0.134:36131.

Also, during the slowdown, mysqld is being hit extremely hard.

Now, if I switch the order of the "Storage" lines in the "Pool" section, and 
restart the director, bconsole becomes snappy again, and backups to the pool go 
to backup2.  Mysqld is not taxed at all after the order is switched

Does any one have any idea on this?  Below are the relevant configuration 
sections.  I'm currently trying to restore a file from the 'backup1' server 
(its disks are full), and it is being extremely slow. :)

Backup1 - /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf:

Storage {
  Name = "backup1 - File"
  Address = backup1.mydomain.com
  SDPort = 9103
  Password = "password"
  Device = FileStorage
  Media Type = File
  Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 3
}

Storage {
  Name = "backup2 - File"
  Address = backup2.mydomain.com
  SDPort = 9103
  Password = "password"
  Device = FileStorage2
  Media Type = File2
  Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 3
}

Pool {
  Name = "File Storage"
  Pool Type = Backup
  Recycle = yes
  AutoPrune = yes
  Volume Retention = 365 days # one year
  Storage = "backup1 - File"
  Storage = "backup2 - File"
}

Backup1 - /etc/bacula/bacula-sd.conf:

Device {
  Name = FileStorage
  Media Type = File
  Archive Device = /bacula-01
  LabelMedia = yes;   # lets Bacula label unlabeled media
  Random Access = Yes;
  AutomaticMount = yes;   # when device opened, read it
  RemovableMedia = no;
  AlwaysOpen = no;
}

Backup2 - /etc/bacula/bacula-sd.conf:

Device {
  Name = FileStorage2
  Media Type = File2
  Archive Device = /bacula-02
  LabelMedia = yes;   # lets Bacula label unlabeled media
  Random Access = Yes;
  AutomaticMount = yes;   # when device opened, read it
  RemovableMedia = no;
  AlwaysOpen = no;
}

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Re: [Bacula-users] Could not connect to Storage daemon - ERR=No error

[Brian A. Seklecki]

> Unfortunately, the error message here is probably incorrect because at that 
> low level, it doesn't know about Win32.  As a consequence, it is most likely 
> that packrat is not properly defined on jeff-t40-fd.
> 

Ahhh so different socket API errors for TCP sockets?  Different
firewalls return (or don't return) different TCP and ICMP packets in
response to SYN packets that violate policies.

Cisco doesn't give you a lot of control; pf(4) / ipf(4) does etc.

~BAS

> It would be a big help to Win32 users if you would file a bug report with the 
> above message and something like "Incorrect Win32 network error message" as 
> the title.





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Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula release strategy.

[Kern Sibbald]

After receiving somewhat conflicting input (some pro quick releases, some 
against), I've decided roughly to follow the following strategy:

For the immediate future:
1. Observe the progress of our current development work over the next week or 
two.  
2. As far as I can tell, all the code is stable *except* the new batch insert 
database code, which is not yet of production quality.
3. After a week, if it is production quality, then we will release an update 
to 2.0.x that contains the whole of the current development code.
4. If after a week, the database code is not production quality, then I will 
merge all the development code except the batch insert database code into 
2.0.4 and release it in the near future  (3 - 6 weeks).


Longer term:
While developing the 2.0.x code, we made some 12 releases to version 1.38.x.  
The first few, as with 2.0.x, were primarily bug fix releases, but a good 
part of the subsequent releases were new features, but those which I found to 
be stable and compatible.  I would like to continue this sort of release 
procedure.  It allows us to make a new incremental release every two to four 
months each time adding new features.  Please keep in mind that each of the 
2.0.x releases as was the case with 1.38.x will remain totally compatible.  
There will be no need as some feared to upgrade lots or clients unless you 
want new features that have been added to the clients.  Normally new client 
features don't come along too often, but we will probably have one shortly 
for 2.0.x for Win32, because from what I understand the current client does 
not run on Vista (thanks Microsoft), so we will very likely release an update 
(hopefully sooner rather than later).

Obviously the above means that the 2.0.x feature updates will be limited to 
those that are stable and cause no compatibility problems.  Major features 
updates will continue to be spaced at approximately 12-18 month intervals.

Basically this means maintaining the status quo.  If someone has some problems 
with this, now is the time to speak up.

Best regards,

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Re: [Bacula-users] Feature request: dynamic configuration files

[Darien Hager]

On Mar 19, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Jorj Bauer wrote:

>>> # bacula-dir -c '|/usr/local/sbin/generate-dir-config'
>>>
>>> ... would cause it to run /usr/local/sbin/generate-dir-config to
>>> generate a new configuration file.
>>
>>
>> Hey, that sounds pretty useful. When you say "globally", I assume you
>> mean that I can just toss a similar line into bacula-dir to generate
>> a subset of the configuration data from a script?
>
> When I said "globally" I meant "for all of the daemons" (fd, dir, sd).
>
> Your idea has merit, but I think it would be a much more substantial
> patch. This patch specifically changes the behavior when starting to
> open a file.
>
> You can certainly replicate the behavior you're suggesting by using  
> this
> patch, and having your own script do the parsing-and-modification.

Hmm. Myself, I'd prefer a "include-from-script" directive I could  
place in the director. I suppose when you get down to it, both  
potential features (entire conf from script, subset from script) can  
be accomplished with existing capabilities (run script first, include  
from generated file.)

Nevertheless, I can't speak for many others, but if I could write a  
line to "grab client/job definitions from this script" within bacula- 
dir.conf, I would use it.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Feature request: dynamic configuration files

[Jorj Bauer]

> > # bacula-dir -c '|/usr/local/sbin/generate-dir-config'
> >
> > ... would cause it to run /usr/local/sbin/generate-dir-config to
> > generate a new configuration file.
> 
> 
> Hey, that sounds pretty useful. When you say "globally", I assume you  
> mean that I can just toss a similar line into bacula-dir to generate  
> a subset of the configuration data from a script?

When I said "globally" I meant "for all of the daemons" (fd, dir, sd).

Your idea has merit, but I think it would be a much more substantial
patch. This patch specifically changes the behavior when starting to
open a file.

You can certainly replicate the behavior you're suggesting by using this
patch, and having your own script do the parsing-and-modification.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Feature request: dynamic configuration files

[Darien Hager]

On Mar 19, 2007, at 6:59 AM, Jorj Bauer wrote:
> What: The ability to read a configuration file as stdout from an  
> executable
>
> Why: The configuration files (particularly for the Director) are very
>   complex. In my case I find it easier to have a program generate them
>   from meta-information about the clients.
>
> Notes:
>
> The attached patch implements this. It's a simple change to lex.c, and
> functions globally: if the first character of any configuration file's
> name is a pipe ("|"), then the rest of the "filename" is considered to
> be the path to an executable. The program is run, stdout is read, and
> the output is the configuration file.
>
> For example, starting the director like this:
>
>   # bacula-dir -c '|/usr/local/sbin/generate-dir-config'
>
> ... would cause it to run /usr/local/sbin/generate-dir-config to
> generate a new configuration file.


Hey, that sounds pretty useful. When you say "globally", I assume you  
mean that I can just toss a similar line into bacula-dir to generate  
a subset of the configuration data from a script?

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Re: [Bacula-users] director password...Urgent

[Naufal Zamir]

Yeah thanks all of you. It works when i just copy and paste it.

Best Regards

On 3/19/07, John Drescher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 3/19/07, Naufal Zamir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yep true, but its encrypted and i don't know the password because it was
set
> by some one else.. So how do I recover the password now.
>
> Regards
No need to decode you just copy that cryptic code to the client
bacula-fs or enter it in the windows setup.
John

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Re: [Bacula-users] director password...Urgent

[Zachariah Mully]

On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 12:22 -0400, Naufal Zamir wrote:
> yep true, but its encrypted and i don't know the password because it
> was set by some one else.. So how do I recover the password now.

Reset it on the director, then update all your clients with the new
password. Might be a pain if you have a lot of clients

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Re: [Bacula-users] director password...Urgent

[John Drescher]

On 3/19/07, Naufal Zamir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yep true, but its encrypted and i don't know the password because it was set
> by some one else.. So how do I recover the password now.
>
> Regards
No need to decode you just copy that cryptic code to the client
bacula-fs or enter it in the windows setup.
John

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Re: [Bacula-users] director password...Urgent

[viashino]

No, it is not encrypted, copy it as-is, it will work.
Generally it is created during setup via the /dev/rand device . Maybe its  
for this reason that it seams encrypted to you.


On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:22:36 +0100, Naufal Zamir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> yep true, but its encrypted and i don't know the password because it was  
> set
> by some one else.. So how do I recover the password now.
>
> Regards
>
> On 3/19/07, John Drescher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On 3/19/07, Naufal Zamir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Please can anyone tell me how to reset or get the director password. I
>> need
>> > it for adding new clients and I am not sure what the password is.
>> >
>> This password is set in the bacula-dir.conf file on the director.
>>
>> John
>>



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Re: [Bacula-users] director password...Urgent

[Bill Moran]

In response to "Naufal Zamir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> yep true, but its encrypted and i don't know the password because it was set
> by some one else.. So how do I recover the password now.

It's not encrypted.

> 
> Regards
> 
> On 3/19/07, John Drescher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 3/19/07, Naufal Zamir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Please can anyone tell me how to reset or get the director password. I
> > need
> > > it for adding new clients and I am not sure what the password is.
> > >
> > This password is set in the bacula-dir.conf file on the director.
> >
> > John
> >
> 


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Re: [Bacula-users] director password...Urgent

[Naufal Zamir]

yep true, but its encrypted and i don't know the password because it was set
by some one else.. So how do I recover the password now.

Regards

On 3/19/07, John Drescher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 3/19/07, Naufal Zamir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Please can anyone tell me how to reset or get the director password. I
need
> it for adding new clients and I am not sure what the password is.
>
This password is set in the bacula-dir.conf file on the director.

John

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Re: [Bacula-users] director password...Urgent

[John Drescher]

On 3/19/07, Naufal Zamir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Please can anyone tell me how to reset or get the director password. I need
> it for adding new clients and I am not sure what the password is.
>
This password is set in the bacula-dir.conf file on the director.

John

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Re: [Bacula-users] Corrupted volume. How do I recover?

[John Drescher]

> > Now this tape (3rd in an archive pool) had 34GB of backups on it the
> > first question I have is how do I find out what jobs were run on this
> > volume?
>
> I found this one. Use the query command from the console.
>
query
Available queries:
 1: List up to 20 places where a File is saved regardless of the directory
 2: List where the most recent copies of a file are saved
 3: List last 20 Full Backups for a Client
 4: List all backups for a Client after a specified time
 5: List all backups for a Client
 6: List Volume Attributes for a selected Volume
 7: List Volumes used by selected JobId
 8: List Volumes to Restore All Files
 9: List Pool Attributes for a selected Pool
10: List total files/bytes by Job
11: List total files/bytes by Volume
12: List Files for a selected JobId
13: List Jobs stored on a selected MediaId
14: List Jobs stored for a given Volume name
15: List Volumes Bacula thinks are in changer
16: List Volumes likely to need replacement from age or errors
Choose a query (1-16): 14
Enter Volume name: A00023
+---++-+--+---++-++
| jobid | name   | starttime   | type | level |
files  | bytes   | status |
+---++-+--+---++-++
| 3,867 | HOLOGICArchive-Job | 2007-03-12 15:17:46 | B| I |
13,216 | 118,405,453,610 | T  |
+---++-+--+---++-++

It says there is only one job on the tape which I worry about as it
says there are ~34GB of data on the tape but since this job only had
13GB where was the other data from?

list media pool=LTO2-Archived-Data
+-++---+-+-+--+--+-+--+---+---+-+
| mediaid | volumename | volstatus | enabled | volbytes|
volfiles | volretention | recycle | slot | inchanger | mediatype |
lastwritten |
+-++---+-+-+--+--+-+--+---+---+-+
| 121 | A8 | Full  |   1 | 293,324,113,143 |
301 |   31,536,000 |   0 |8 | 1 | LTO-2 |
2006-10-17 14:37:37 |
| 135 | A00010 | Archive   |   1 | 262,766,020,608 |
269 |   31,536,000 |   0 |   10 | 1 | LTO-2 |
2007-03-12 16:27:04 |
| 154 | A00023 | Append|   1 |  32,146,910,208 |
33 |   31,536,000 |   0 |   21 | 1 | LTO-2 |
2007-03-12 16:58:42 |

John

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[Bacula-users] director password...Urgent

[Naufal Zamir]

Hi,

Please can anyone tell me how to reset or get the director password. I need
it for adding new clients and I am not sure what the password is.

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[Bacula-users] suggestions for improving question & enhancement submissions (Was: Re: Unhelpful help (was Re: Bacula and HP MSL2024autochanger))

[mark . bergman]

In the message dated: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:53:32 -,
The pithy ruminations from "Rob MacGregor" on 
 
were:
=> On 3/16/07, Darien Hager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
=> > I wonder if a small improvement would be to basically send them an e-
=> > mail as part of the signup process which has some helpful links,
=> > small manual TOC, etc.

I think that a MAJOR improvement would be a form on the website that prompts 
the user for all the "required" information to submit a question to the list 
(or a bug report):

bacula version
fd platform
sd platform
client platform[s]
specific error messages
debug level used
problem description
attached config files


There's so much information that the process of asking--and more importantly, 
answering--questions could be tremendously improved if the questions were 
posted in a standardized format. This would make them easier for human beings 
to scan and respond to, and easier to index for future searches.

Along these lines, I'd also strongly suggest a form for submitting enhancement 
requests. Kern has a strong preference for having the request submitted in a 
particular format...it would improve the quality of the requests, reduce the 
number of times that they are re-submitted because of "formatting errors", and 
make it easier on Kern (and the other developers) if the data was in a 
standardized format.

Mark

=> 
=> I've seen that done on another list, including direct pointers to the
=> section of the FAQ that details how to report problems.
=> 
=> I think maybe one person has actually provided even the majority of
=> the requested information right off (and nobody all of it).  Even
=> people who harp on about having read the FAQ provide little of the
=> requested information.  The most common statement is "I know I should
=> upgrade, but...".
=> 
=> So, in my experience it may help, but I really doubt it.  The sad fact
=> of life is that most people either don't read any of it (probably
=> because they're in too much of a rush to get their post in so they can
=> get help) or don't understand what they read (either language barriers
=> or a lack of a common knowledge space).
=> 
=> -- 
=>  Please keep list traffic on the list.
=> 
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=> doesn't become a monster.  Friedrich Nietzsche
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[Bacula-users] Feature request: dynamic configuration files

[Jorj Bauer]

What: The ability to read a configuration file as stdout from an executable

Why: The configuration files (particularly for the Director) are very
complex. In my case I find it easier to have a program generate them
from meta-information about the clients.

Notes:

The attached patch implements this. It's a simple change to lex.c, and
functions globally: if the first character of any configuration file's
name is a pipe ("|"), then the rest of the "filename" is considered to
be the path to an executable. The program is run, stdout is read, and
the output is the configuration file.

For example, starting the director like this:

# bacula-dir -c '|/usr/local/sbin/generate-dir-config'

... would cause it to run /usr/local/sbin/generate-dir-config to
generate a new configuration file.

Comments welcome.

-- Jorj
diff --recursive -u bacula-2.0.3/src/lib/lex.c 
bacula-2.0.3.patched/src/lib/lex.c
--- bacula-2.0.3/src/lib/lex.c  2006-11-21 11:13:58.0 -0500
+++ bacula-2.0.3.patched/src/lib/lex.c  2007-03-08 09:54:40.0 -0500
@@ -37,6 +37,12 @@
 #include "bacula.h"
 #include "lex.h"
 
+#if defined(HAVE_WIN32)
+#define POPEN_MODE "rb"
+#else
+#define POPEN_MODE "r"
+#endif
+
 extern int debug_level;
 
 /* Debug level for this source file */
@@ -133,7 +139,11 @@
Dmsg1(dbglvl, "Close lex file: %s\n", lf->fname);
 
of = lf->next;
-   fclose(lf->fd);
+
+   if (lf->is_pipe)
+ pclose(lf->fd);
+   else
+ fclose(lf->fd);
Dmsg1(dbglvl, "Close cfg file %s\n", lf->fname);
free(lf->fname);
if (of) {
@@ -159,6 +169,7 @@
  * the next field.
  *
  */
+
 LEX *lex_open_file(LEX *lf, const char *filename, LEX_ERROR_HANDLER 
*scan_error)
 
 {
@@ -166,9 +177,14 @@
FILE *fd;
char *fname = bstrdup(filename);
 
-
-   if ((fd = fopen(fname, "rb")) == NULL) {
-  return NULL;
+   if (fname && fname[0] == '|') {
+  if ((fd = popen(&fname[1], POPEN_MODE)) == NULL) {
+return NULL;
+  }
+   } else {
+  if ((fd = fopen(fname, "rb")) == NULL) {
+return NULL;
+  }
}
Dmsg1(400, "Open config file: %s\n", fname);
nf = (LEX *)malloc(sizeof(LEX));
@@ -188,6 +204,7 @@
   lex_set_default_error_handler(lf);
}
lf->fd = fd;
+   lf->is_pipe = (fname[0] == '|');
lf->fname = fname;
lf->state = lex_none;
lf->ch = L_EOL;
diff --recursive -u bacula-2.0.3/src/lib/lex.h 
bacula-2.0.3.patched/src/lib/lex.h
--- bacula-2.0.3/src/lib/lex.h  2006-11-21 08:20:11.0 -0500
+++ bacula-2.0.3.patched/src/lib/lex.h  2007-03-08 09:33:41.0 -0500
@@ -98,6 +98,7 @@
int options;   /* scan options */
char *fname;   /* filename */
FILE *fd;  /* file descriptor */
+   int is_pipe : 1;   /* did we use popen to open it? */
char line[MAXSTRING];  /* input line */
char str[MAXSTRING];   /* string being scanned */
int str_len;   /* length of string */


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Re: [Bacula-users] Password Protection on Restore?

[Pierre Bernhardt]

Michael Havas schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> I was thinking of using data encryption as discussed in the manual and
> have the ssl key require a passphrase. Here are a few questions I thought
> of:
> 
> 1. Is this supported by bacula? Is somebody else doing this?
> 
> 2. Will this even work?
> 
> 3. Is it possible to only use the master certificate to do the encryption?
In my opinion yes. Use only a master cert on the fd for encryption.
This will prevent from restore without having the master key file.
But this mean you cannot directly restore on the client without having
the master key on the client so the client fd can read them.
> 
> 4. Will I be required to enter the passphrase upon backing up data as
> well? For automation reasons, this is not something I want.
For encryption you will never need an password. The cert is enough.
The cert could not be used for decryption.
For decryption:
I have never seen asking interactive password for decryption. You must
have the key for decryption stored without the password. But my idea is
you can put them on an memory stick for example.

This is my opinion. I have not tested them but it should work.
For encryption I use a master cert and a fd cert for every client.
And on every client the fd key is stored so I can recover directly
on the client.
The master key is only used by my if the client key is lost by recover
the whole client.

MfG...
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[Bacula-users] Corrupt tape label

[Pierre Bernhardt]

Hello,

I got a problem with one tape which have a corrupt label so
bacula cannot mount them.
I checked with btape too: readlabel could not found the
original label.

The tape is in use of my weekly backups.

Now my serious problem:
A job has been startet.
Bacula has loaded the tape an wants to mount it. But it cannot
because of the label was not found.
Now bacula wait and wait and wait..so I must cancel the jobs
which will go on these tape. I think auto cancel of the job I can
configure on job level.

To reread which tape is in which port I have updated the media list
by an

umount
update slots scan. At Slot 6 which contains the corrupt tape I got a
message.

A update slots=6 scan again said:

Could not unserialize Volume label: ERR=label.c:775 Expecting Volume
Label, got FI=SOS_LABEL Stream=141 len=162.

Here a problem:

But the tape will be still loading at next backup so I have now disabled
the volume which should contains the slot.

1. Is there a way to use an Error status instead of an disabling? (Not
   important but shows that there is a problem with this tape).
   Disabled status tapes could not purge, later.

2. Because of the corrupt label I think all backups stored on the tape
   and the following incrementals are no more readable so I want to
   purge/prune them. I did this without any problem after setting the
   status back to Full. Any other idea?

3. Here I found possible an bug:
   I have to delete the volume so I used update which didn't helped me:

*update
Update choice:
 1: Volume parameters
 2: Pool from resource
 3: Slots from autochanger
Choose catalog item to update (1-3): 3
The defined Storage resources are:
 1: File
 2: Libra-8
Select Storage resource (1-2): 2
Connecting to Storage daemon Libra-8 at spaceetch.privatnet:9103 ...
Connecting to Storage daemon Libra-8 at spaceetch.privatnet:9103 ...
3306 Issuing autochanger "slots" command.
Device "Libra-8" has 8 slots.
Connecting to Storage daemon Libra-8 at spaceetch.privatnet:9103 ...
3306 Issuing autochanger "list" command.
No Volumes found to label, or no barcodes.

  So I used different one to check how I can delete the volume from
  the database. A update than slots didn't helped me.

  Any idea how I can delete the media from bacula?

4. update command can move a volume to an slot number which didn't
  exist on the tape library (12 for example). Not dau friendly :-)



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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula 2.0.3-1 released for SuSE 10.1 and 10.2 (x86_64)

[Alan Brown]

On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, Kern Sibbald wrote:

>>> Has anyone built a bacula-fd for suse-9 at all?
>>
>> Yes. No rpms here, though.
>>
>> I'm quite sure someone else will have an rpm soon for the FD at least.
>
> Hopefully the above is true, but if I recall correctly, the Bacula project
> (i.e. Scott) is no longer supporting SuSE 9.

I've previously discussed with Scott about making bacula-fd-static 
binaries available (where possible) for use on obsolete systems.

While I realise it's not always possible to make a full -static set, 99% 
of the time the filedaemon is the only thing needed - in order to keep 
backing up older systems until they're replaced.

Right now I can imagine several people asking why I don't just update and 
the answer is simple - we are a space lab, supporting projects which may 
run for a decade or more and a lot of the time the software is binary-only 
and keyed to a particular machine and/or OS(*) - which means we are locked 
into using that machine or OS until the probe in question (somewhere 
around the solar system) finally dies.


(*) Sometimes we have sources and find that the person who wrote the code 
is long gone, or the code is very tightly coded to the OS - but more often 
it's just so incredibly badly written that it's totally non-portable. 
Rocket Scientists are some of the lousiest programmers on the planet.


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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and HP MSL2024 autochanger

[Marc Cuypers]

Jose Molina schreef:
> El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 10:17 +0100, Marc Cuypers escribió:
> 
>> Did the HP MSL2024 work immediately out of the box or did you have to do 
>> some special tweaking?
> 
> Not much, as always check and test the mtx-changer script alone before
> trying with bacula. As always, most of the tweaking depends mostly on
> the drive, sice most autochangers will work fine with mtx, and bacula
> uses this to load/unload...
> 
Thanks for answering my question.  Now i know it is safe to go for the 
msl2024.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Authorization Errors after upgrade to 2.0.2 (Workaround)

[Alan Brown]

On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Darien Hager wrote:

> The prep job uses an empty fileset and runs the prep script *after*
> the bulk of the job.

If you make the prep job an "admin" job instead of an "archive" job you 
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Re: [Bacula-users] Change in verification job tape sel ection time - deliberate or accidental?

[Kern Sibbald]

On Monday 19 March 2007 10:35, Troy Daniels wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> >> I can think of 2 ways to go with this that might work:
> >>
> >> 1) Implement an option to the 'run' command to specify the verify job by 
job 
> >> id. Using some scripting magic it should be easy enough to grab the 
specific 
> >> job id you want to verify and trigger a job to perform this verification 
> >> whenever you want to.
> > 
> > I believe that this is already implemented via the run command then 
> > using "mod".  However, since no one seems to have used setting the JobId, 
it 
> > has been rather neglected.  I'd suggest that you try what exists, and if 
it 
> > is broken, the best is probably to submit a bug report.
> > 
> 
> I checked for this capability (and double checked just now) when I setup my 
> Admin verify trigger jobs.
> 
> I dont get an option to specify the job by JobID (eg 'Verify JobID=6192')- 
only 
> by selecting a job name from a list.
> 
> I even tried to enter the job id at this prompt but was told to enter a 
number 
> between 1 and 9.
> 
> Not sure that comes under the heading of bug report, unless it's supposed to 
be 
> an option and isn't showing up. If that's the case, let me know and I'll 
file 
> it. :-D

Sorry for the mixup, I just looked at the code, and I think I was confused 
with restore, which still lets the user specify a jobid.  What I was thinking 
of is not implemented.  The code does let you specify a Verify Job name, but 
that is not useful for what you want.

This would be a feature request rather than a bug report.  

Regards,

Kern

> 
> >> 2) Add the ability to specify a job by offset or scheduled start time. ie 
> >> Verify the 2nd last BaculaCatalog job or the BaculaCatalog job that was 
> >> scheduled to start on Friday. The offset would enable automatic 
scheduling 
> > of 
> >> jobs, and could be potentially more useful than the specific date. (which 
> > would 
> >> still need to be controlled thru scripting)
> > 
> > This is an idea that I think given a bit of careful thought and good 
> > specification could be very useful.  This idea would need to be submitted 
as 
> > a feature request.
> > 
> 
> Which is exactly why I haven't rushed in a feature request yet.
> 
> Once I wrap my head around it and work out how I think it should work I'll 
post 
> the request. Currently I'm leaning towards something along the lines 
of 'Verify 
> Job Offset = 2' which would verify the 2nd last backup job instead of the 
last one.
> 
> Not sure the name is quite right, because it isn't really clear what it 
does. 
> But its a work in progress.
> 
> Cheers
> 
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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and HP MSL2024 autochanger

[Jose Molina]

El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 10:17 +0100, Marc Cuypers escribió:

> Did the HP MSL2024 work immediately out of the box or did you have to do 
> some special tweaking?

Not much, as always check and test the mtx-changer script alone before
trying with bacula. As always, most of the tweaking depends mostly on
the drive, sice most autochangers will work fine with mtx, and bacula
uses this to load/unload...

Cheers,
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Re: [Bacula-users] Change in verification job tape selection time - deliberate or accidental?

[Troy Daniels]

Hi,

>> I can think of 2 ways to go with this that might work:
>>
>> 1) Implement an option to the 'run' command to specify the verify job by job 
>> id. Using some scripting magic it should be easy enough to grab the specific 
>> job id you want to verify and trigger a job to perform this verification 
>> whenever you want to.
> 
> I believe that this is already implemented via the run command then 
> using "mod".  However, since no one seems to have used setting the JobId, it 
> has been rather neglected.  I'd suggest that you try what exists, and if it 
> is broken, the best is probably to submit a bug report.
> 

I checked for this capability (and double checked just now) when I setup my 
Admin verify trigger jobs.

I dont get an option to specify the job by JobID (eg 'Verify JobID=6192')- only 
by selecting a job name from a list.

I even tried to enter the job id at this prompt but was told to enter a number 
between 1 and 9.

Not sure that comes under the heading of bug report, unless it's supposed to be 
an option and isn't showing up. If that's the case, let me know and I'll file 
it. :-D

>> 2) Add the ability to specify a job by offset or scheduled start time. ie 
>> Verify the 2nd last BaculaCatalog job or the BaculaCatalog job that was 
>> scheduled to start on Friday. The offset would enable automatic scheduling 
> of 
>> jobs, and could be potentially more useful than the specific date. (which 
> would 
>> still need to be controlled thru scripting)
> 
> This is an idea that I think given a bit of careful thought and good 
> specification could be very useful.  This idea would need to be submitted as 
> a feature request.
> 

Which is exactly why I haven't rushed in a feature request yet.

Once I wrap my head around it and work out how I think it should work I'll post 
the request. Currently I'm leaning towards something along the lines of 'Verify 
Job Offset = 2' which would verify the 2nd last backup job instead of the last 
one.

Not sure the name is quite right, because it isn't really clear what it does. 
But its a work in progress.

Cheers


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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula and HP MSL2024 autochanger

[Marc Cuypers]

Hi,

Jose Molina schreef:
 > El vie, 16-03-2007 a las 16:14 +0100, Marc Cuypers escribió:
 >> Hi,
 >>
 >> Has someone bacula working with a HP MSL2024 autochanger?
 >>
 >
 > Indeed.

At the moment i'm using an exabyte.  We will have to move to another 
autochanger later this year.

Did the HP MSL2024 work immediately out of the box or did you have to do 
some special tweaking?

Are there others out there happily using this autochanger?

Is there some pointer where i can find bacula configuration files for 
the MSL2024?

-- 
best regards,

Marc

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