Re: [Bacula-users] Using Copy Job to create quarterly FULL backups
Hi Dan, Am 29.11.2010 um 02:40 schrieb Dan Langille: Tonight I was thinking how I want to structure my backups. I'm presently backing up to disk and I'm about to running Copy Jobs from there to tape. Then I started thinking: if I keep quarterly FULL backups (a full backup done every three months), I would have more space to keep backups longer. Let's assume those quarterly backups are kept for 10 years, which will require a new Pool with 'Volume Retention = 10 years'. But how best to achieve these quarterly backups? My initial thoughts were along the lines of the classic schedule: Run = Level=Full 1st sun at 8:15 Run = Differential 2nd-5th sun at 8:15 Run = Incremental mon-sat at 8:15 but adjusted slightly for every three months: Run = Level=Full jan apr jul oct 1st sun at 8:15 This this quickly becomes complicated. I am also thinking about the same setup (Full after a half year for ten years). I am just curious why Run = Level=Full jan jun 1st sun at 8:15 would become complicated? Furthermore i thought about putting one Full backup at one Volume(set). I am not sure if Maximum Volume Jobs = 1 would accomplishing this. Because the data could grow and needing a second tape. Or how to delete the appendable flag of the volume? I read something about that but can't remember where :-) Thanks PM -- Increase Visibility of Your 3D Game App Earn a Chance To Win $500! Tap into the largest installed PC base get more eyes on your game by optimizing for Intel(R) Graphics Technology. Get started today with the Intel(R) Software Partner Program. Five $500 cash prizes are up for grabs. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intelisp-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Job pre-allocating 20 volumes from a pool un-necessary
You can build 5.0.3 on Debian Squeeze from source, its so easy. The wiki has 'from source' howtos on Debian that could help you. Javier. 2010/11/29 Francois Duchatelet bacul...@duchatelet.org No it isn’t. The normal way of working is: - fill a volume, - THEN look for an available (Appendable,Purged,...) one, - THEN ONLY if there are no available volumes in the Pool, create a new one (if the pool allows it). The issue is: SOMETIMES, the locutus job PRE-creates 20 volumes, although it doesn’t need them. In this case, the job was only 400Mb and normally completed on ONE volume. The “Sleep 60” is necessary because otherwise the 2 jobs, starting at the same, would compete for the same volume. With this ‘sleep 60’, the sulu job has time to mark it’s first volume as ‘Used’ (by virtue of ‘Maximum Volume Jobs = 1‘) before the locutus job does its reservation. At least this was an issue before I upgraded to 5.0.2, while the two jobs ran concurrently. As I need to upgrade to 5.0.3 anyway, I’ll see if the problem persist. Does someone have 5.0.3 packages for debian/squeeze ? Otherwize I’ll try to build them. Cheers, François *From:* Kleber Leal kleber.l...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, November 28, 2010 9:45 PM *To:* bacula-users bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net *Subject:* Re: [Bacula-users] Job pre-allocating 20 volumes from a poolun-necessary It seems correct! How many GB you have on spock host? You difined maximum volume size with 1GB and only one use for each volume, then if the backup of spock host exceed 1GB other volumes will be created. If you want keep the job on single volume you should remove the maximum volume size definition. Why you need this sleep 60? Kleber 2010/11/28 Francois D. bacul...@duchatelet.org Hello, I've an issue preventing the correct recycling of my Pool's volume. Given the definitions at the end of the message, I have the job for locutus pre-create 20 volumes in the Default pool right after the 60 seconds sleep. What happens: - at 02:05, two jobs (Sulu and Locutus) starts. - to avoid them compelling for the same Volume, the Locutus job does a 'sleep 60'. - due, I think, to the known bug in 5.0.2 (bug-1578), the locutus job waits for the sulu completion before going on. - sometimes (I was not able to deduce a pattern yet), while it is waiting, the locutus job creates new volumes in the target pool, even before it needs it. When the pool is empty, like today (I've cleaned and rebuild the pool yesterday), this is not really an issue, but when there are 100+ volumes, with about 50 of them purged, and ready to be re-used, this is annoying, as this makes the pool growing. Any ideas of what I did wrong ? Cheers, François = Here is an extract of the Sulu job log: 28-Nov 02:05 spock-dir JobId 1446: Start Backup JobId 1446, Job=sulu.2010-11-28_02.05.00_44 28-Nov 02:05 spock-dir JobId 1446: Created new Volume BDSK-002 in catalog. 28-Nov 02:05 spock-dir JobId 1446: Using Device FileStorage 28-Nov 02:05 spock-sd JobId 1446: Labeled new Volume BDSK-002 on device FileStorage (/backups). 28-Nov 02:05 spock-sd JobId 1446: Wrote label to prelabeled Volume BDSK-002 on device FileStorage (/backups) 28-Nov 02:05 spock-dir JobId 1446: Max Volume jobs exceeded. Marking Volume BDSK-002 as Used. 28-Nov 02:05 sulu-fd JobId 1446: Generate VSS snapshots. Driver=VSS Vista, Drive(s)=C 28-Nov 02:08 spock-sd JobId 1446: User defined maximum volume capacity 1,073,741,824 exceeded on device FileStorage (/backups). 28-Nov 02:08 spock-sd JobId 1446: End of medium on Volume BDSK-002 Bytes=1,073,737,912 Blocks=16,644 at 28-Nov-2010 02:08. 28-Nov 02:08 spock-sd JobId 1446: Labeled new Volume BDSK-003 on device FileStorage (/backups). 28-Nov 02:08 spock-sd JobId 1446: Wrote label to prelabeled Volume BDSK-003 on device FileStorage (/backups) 28-Nov 02:08 spock-dir JobId 1446: Max Volume jobs exceeded. Marking Volume BDSK-003 as Used. 28-Nov 02:08 spock-sd JobId 1446: New volume BDSK-003 mounted on device FileStorage (/backups) at 28-Nov-2010 02:08. 28-Nov 02:24 spock-sd JobId 1446: User defined maximum volume capacity 1,073,741,824 exceeded on device FileStorage (/backups). 28-Nov 02:24 spock-sd JobId 1446: End of medium on Volume BDSK-003 Bytes=1,073,737,675 Blocks=16,644 at 28-Nov-2010 02:24. 28-Nov 02:24 spock-sd JobId 1446: Labeled new Volume BDSK-004 on device FileStorage (/backups). 28-Nov 02:24 spock-sd JobId 1446: Wrote label to prelabeled Volume BDSK-004 on device FileStorage (/backups) 28-Nov 02:24 spock-dir JobId 1446: Max Volume jobs exceeded. Marking Volume BDSK-004 as Used. 28-Nov 02:24 spock-sd JobId 1446: New volume BDSK-004 mounted on device FileStorage (/backups) at 28-Nov-2010 02:24. And here is an extract of the locutus job log: 28-Nov 02:05 spock-dir JobId 1447: shell command: run
Re: [Bacula-users] Using Copy Job to create quarterly FULL backups
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 20:40:54 -0500, Dan Langille said: I thought this was a great idea, until I realized that Copy Job depends upon the 'Next Pool' directive in the source Pool. This prevents a given Job from being copied to more than one Pool. Ouch, bummer. That's something I'd really like to do. Is it possible? Yes, with a hack: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.backup.bacula.devel/14084 __Martin -- Increase Visibility of Your 3D Game App Earn a Chance To Win $500! Tap into the largest installed PC base get more eyes on your game by optimizing for Intel(R) Graphics Technology. Get started today with the Intel(R) Software Partner Program. Five $500 cash prizes are up for grabs. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intelisp-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] search file edited on a specific date
Hey list, I could not find an answer to this in the archive. Can I (or Bacula) list files from a specific job edited on a certain date? For Example: List all .xls files from jobid XXX where the date of the file is 2010-11-26 (not the date the backup ran!). I guess I have to parse the lstat field. I'm running Bacula 5.03 on Ubuntu 10/04 x64 Kind regards Julian -- Increase Visibility of Your 3D Game App Earn a Chance To Win $500! Tap into the largest installed PC base get more eyes on your game by optimizing for Intel(R) Graphics Technology. Get started today with the Intel(R) Software Partner Program. Five $500 cash prizes are up for grabs. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intelisp-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] search file edited on a specific date
Fahrer, Julian wrote: Hey list, I could not find an answer to this in the archive. Can I (or Bacula) list files from a specific job edited on a certain date? For Example: List all .xls files from jobid XXX where the date of the file is 2010-11-26 (not the date the backup ran!). I guess I have to parse the lstat field. You will have to write a database query to do it, but yes you can. AB -- Increase Visibility of Your 3D Game App Earn a Chance To Win $500! Tap into the largest installed PC base get more eyes on your game by optimizing for Intel(R) Graphics Technology. Get started today with the Intel(R) Software Partner Program. Five $500 cash prizes are up for grabs. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intelisp-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] where is bacula logs locating on Solaris?
I thought it is under/var/bacula, but I didn't find any bacula file.
anyone knows where is the logs info?
I don't know Solaris, but look for something like lines below from
director's conf file:
Messages {
Name = Daemon
append = /var/log/bacula/log = all, !skipped
}
This is from CentOS, and used to point to /var/lib/bacula/log (if I
remember it correctly) by default.
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[Bacula-users] where is bacula logs locating on Solaris?
Timo Neuvonen wrote:
Messages {
Name = Daemon
append = /var/log/bacula/log = all, !skipped
}
Timo, Yes, I find this in dir.conf, however it seems too simple, and it only
contains logs from bconsole?
do you know how to get some debug info from bacula or bacula-fd command?
seems bacula or bacula-fd do not support -d option, that is, they can' t be
logged?
thanks
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Re: [Bacula-users] Using Copy Job to create quarterly FULL backups
On 11/29/2010 5:00 AM, Paulo Martinez wrote: Hi Dan, Am 29.11.2010 um 02:40 schrieb Dan Langille: Tonight I was thinking how I want to structure my backups. I'm presently backing up to disk and I'm about to running Copy Jobs from there to tape. Then I started thinking: if I keep quarterly FULL backups (a full backup done every three months), I would have more space to keep backups longer. Let's assume those quarterly backups are kept for 10 years, which will require a new Pool with 'Volume Retention = 10 years'. But how best to achieve these quarterly backups? My initial thoughts were along the lines of the classic schedule: Run = Level=Full 1st sun at 8:15 Run = Differential 2nd-5th sun at 8:15 Run = Incremental mon-sat at 8:15 but adjusted slightly for every three months: Run = Level=Full jan apr jul oct 1st sun at 8:15 This this quickly becomes complicated. I am also thinking about the same setup (Full after a half year for ten years). I am just curious why Run = Level=Full jan jun 1st sun at 8:15 would become complicated? I'm thinking about the INCR and DIFF jobs that follow it. They need to be based upon something (i.e. the Full). My initial concern was they all needed to be in the same Pool. That is incorrect. Restores can collect backups from different Pools. Where it does get complicated is the other schedule, for regular Full backups: Run = Level=Full Feb Mar May Jun Aug Sep Nov Dec 1st sun at 8:15 OK, it's not that complicated. Furthermore i thought about putting one Full backup at one Volume(set). I am not sure if Maximum Volume Jobs = 1 would accomplishing this. Because the data could grow and needing a second tape. Or how to delete the appendable flag of the volume? I read something about that but can't remember where :-) If a Job requires more than one Volume, Maximum Volume Jobs = 1 would not hinder that. -- Dan Langille - http://langille.org/ -- Increase Visibility of Your 3D Game App Earn a Chance To Win $500! Tap into the largest installed PC base get more eyes on your game by optimizing for Intel(R) Graphics Technology. Get started today with the Intel(R) Software Partner Program. Five $500 cash prizes are up for grabs. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intelisp-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Using Copy Job to create quarterly FULL backups
On 11/29/2010 7:20 AM, Martin Simmons wrote: On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 20:40:54 -0500, Dan Langille said: I thought this was a great idea, until I realized that Copy Job depends upon the 'Next Pool' directive in the source Pool. This prevents a given Job from being copied to more than one Pool. Ouch, bummer. That's something I'd really like to do. Is it possible? Yes, with a hack: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.backup.bacula.devel/14084 The two suggestions there are quite interesting. I like them. Thank you. -- Dan Langille - http://langille.org/ -- Increase Visibility of Your 3D Game App Earn a Chance To Win $500! Tap into the largest installed PC base get more eyes on your game by optimizing for Intel(R) Graphics Technology. Get started today with the Intel(R) Software Partner Program. Five $500 cash prizes are up for grabs. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intelisp-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] where is bacula logs locating on Solaris?
On 11/29/2010 9:00 PM, amybac wrote:
Timo Neuvonen wrote:
Messages {
Name = Daemon
append = /var/log/bacula/log = all, !skipped
}
Timo, Yes, I find this in dir.conf, however it seems too simple, and it only
contains logs from bconsole?
do you know how to get some debug info from bacula or bacula-fd command?
seems bacula or bacula-fd do not support -d option, that is, they can' t be
logged?
Yes, bacula-fd accepts -d.
man bacula-fd or bacula-fd -h
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[Bacula-users] where is bacula logs locating on Solaris?
Dan Langille wrote: Yes, bacula-fd accepts -d. man bacula-fd or bacula-fd -h what debug level usually be used? 100 or 200? Last time I run with -d999, it soon quit the program. +-- |This was sent by lt...@163.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- -- Increase Visibility of Your 3D Game App Earn a Chance To Win $500! Tap into the largest installed PC base get more eyes on your game by optimizing for Intel(R) Graphics Technology. Get started today with the Intel(R) Software Partner Program. Five $500 cash prizes are up for grabs. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intelisp-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] where is bacula logs locating on Solaris?
On 11/29/2010 10:31 PM, amybac wrote: Dan Langille wrote: Yes, bacula-fd accepts -d. man bacula-fd or bacula-fd -h what debug level usually be used? 100 or 200? Last time I run with -d999, it soon quit the program. Start small, work your way up. :) Try 10 -- Dan Langille - http://langille.org/ -- Increase Visibility of Your 3D Game App Earn a Chance To Win $500! Tap into the largest installed PC base get more eyes on your game by optimizing for Intel(R) Graphics Technology. Get started today with the Intel(R) Software Partner Program. Five $500 cash prizes are up for grabs. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intelisp-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
