Re: [Bacula-users] recommendations for failover system backups

2011-10-06 Thread shouldbe q931
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Ben Walton bwal...@artsci.utoronto.ca wrote:

 Hi All,

 I'm going to be adding a new pair of boxes to the network shortly.
 One box will be a primary server and the other a hot standby.  The hot
 standby will sync the live system nightly.

 As I see it, I've got a few options for backup here:

 1. Backup both boxes, pay the heavy price of duplicated data (or use a
   base job, etc)
 2. Backup only the failover system and the config for the live system,
   making the failover the primary recovery source.
 3. Backup only the primary system and config on the failover.
 4. Attempt to backup only a single system, determined by which one is
   holder the virtual IP that will run the service.

 I'm inclined toward either 2 or 3 but am curious what the experts
 think.

 Thanks
 -Ben
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With most active/passive paired servers that I have implemented,
backup is run on the passive server and is the primary recovery
source.

Historically this was because of the backup load on the active server,
and in some cases backup windows.

You mention having a shared IP, for clustered systems, I would
probably look to have a more frequent sync than daily unless you can
replace the daily changes via a different method.

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Re: [Bacula-users] recommendations for failover system backups

2011-10-06 Thread Ben Walton
Excerpts from shouldbe q931's message of Thu Oct 06 07:10:54 -0400 2011:

 With most active/passive paired servers that I have implemented,
 backup is run on the passive server and is the primary recovery
 source.

Yes, that's where I was headed.  I guess that I probably wasn't clear
that I was asking more for bacula best practices with such a setup
than overall practices (eg: policy).  Sorry for not being clear.

Is it even sane to point bacula at the shared ip and treat the two
systems as three clients?

 You mention having a shared IP, for clustered systems, I would
 probably look to have a more frequent sync than daily unless you can
 replace the daily changes via a different method.

This won't be a clustered system as the failover is meant for rapid
recovery not no data loss.  (We are running drbd with corosync for
other situations, but that doesn't fit in this case.)  The shared IP
in this instance is just so that a name can move between the systems
if required.  The sync interval could be more frequent, but the point
is that it's not real-time.

I appreciate your answer.  It's quite helpful.

Thanks
-Ben
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Re: [Bacula-users] recommendations for failover system backups

2011-10-06 Thread Josh Fisher
On 10/6/2011 8:35 AM, Ben Walton wrote:
 Excerpts from shouldbe q931's message of Thu Oct 06 07:10:54 -0400 2011:

 With most active/passive paired servers that I have implemented,
 backup is run on the passive server and is the primary recovery
 source.
 Yes, that's where I was headed.  I guess that I probably wasn't clear
 that I was asking more for bacula best practices with such a setup
 than overall practices (eg: policy).  Sorry for not being clear.

 Is it even sane to point bacula at the shared ip and treat the two
 systems as three clients?

 You mention having a shared IP, for clustered systems, I would
 probably look to have a more frequent sync than daily unless you can
 replace the daily changes via a different method.
 This won't be a clustered system as the failover is meant for rapid
 recovery not no data loss.  (We are running drbd with corosync for
 other situations, but that doesn't fit in this case.)  The shared IP
 in this instance is just so that a name can move between the systems
 if required.  The sync interval could be more frequent, but the point
 is that it's not real-time.

Why not add an ethernet alias interface to the passive system and back 
up only the passive system through the alias IP address?

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[Bacula-users] Fwd: [Bacula-devel] [Patch] Mysql scripts should ask for password

2011-10-06 Thread John Drescher
 Yes of course this is possible, but my intend was to make these scripts
 more user friendly. Lets say that some less experience user want to
 install bacula and he runs these scripts. They failed and he must look
 inside what caused this error and find out how to provide password.


I believe more user friendly would be to just document the ability to
set the password with the -p using the existing scripts.

John

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[Bacula-users] query for file sizes in a job

2011-10-06 Thread Jeff Shanholtz
I'm currently tuning my exclude rules and one of the things I want to do is
make sure I'm not backing up any massive files that don't need to be backed
up. Is there any way to get bacula to list file sizes along with the file
names since llist doesn't do this?

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[Bacula-users] Windows Junction

2011-10-06 Thread glynd
I have tried to get rid of the errors by adding an exclude section in the 
dir.conf. I have failed. Can someone help me please? 

Here is the error 

05-Oct 09:07 glyn-laptop-fd JobId 4155: Generate VSS snapshots. Driver=VSS 
Vista, Drive(s)=C 
05-Oct 09:08 glyn-laptop-fd JobId 4155:  
C:/users/Glyn/AppData/Local/Application Data is a junction point or a different 
filesystem. Will not descend from C:/users/Glyn into it. 

Here is the fileset in the dir.conf 

FileSet { 
  Name = Glyn Set 
  Enable VSS = yes 
  Ignore FileSet Changes = yes 

  Include { 
Options { 
wilddir = C:/Users/Glyn/AppData 
wilddir = C:/Users/Glyn/Application Data 
wilddir = C:/Users/Glyn/Cookies 
wilddir = C:/Users/Glyn/Documents/My Music 
wilddir = C:/Users/Glyn/Documents/My Pictures 
wilddir = C:/Users/Glyn/Documents/My Videos 
wilddir = C:/Users/Public/Documents/My Music 
wilddir = C:/Users/Public/Documents/My Pictures 
wilddir = C:/Users/Public/Documents/My Videos 
wilddir = C:/Users/Glyn/Local Settings 
wilddir = C:/Users/Glyn/My Documents 
wilddir = C:/Users/Glyn/NetHood 
wilddir = C:/Users/Glyn/PrintHood 
wilddir = C:/Users/Glyn/Recent 
wilddir = C:/Users/Glyn/SendTo 
wilddir = C:/Users/Glyn/Start Menu 
wilddir = C:/Users/Glyn/Templates 
wilddir = c:/users/glyn/.VirtualBox/ 
exclude = yes 
  } 
Options { 
Compression = GZIP 
ignore case = yes; 
verify = pnugsi 
} 

File = /etc/bacula/Glynbup.txt 
 } 
} 

And for completeness, here is the Glynbup.txt which supplies the list of files 
to be backed up 


C:/users/Glyn 
C:/chqdata 
C:/Garmin 
C:/Mail 


TIA 
Glyn

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