Re: [Bacula-users] PostgreSQL - pg_dump
Hi! I don't think bacula uses oids, however, it doesn't hurt if you include them (I think). What pgsql version are you using? (you said 8, but: 8.0, 8.1, 8.2, 8.3, 8.4). You could also use online backups, and do WAL archiving (maybe even continuous WAL archiving), here: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/static/backup-online.html (that's for 8.0), or here: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/continuous-archiving.html (for 8.4). Depending on your DB size, this method will save you some time for daily backups (because you can just add WAL files, like an incremental backup). Ildefonso. 2012/3/28 Thomas Bennett bennet...@appstate.edu: I am having some hardware issues because of several HVAC outages. So if I am doing a pg_dump of the bacula database on PostgreSQL, do I need to include oids? From pg_dump man -o --oids Dump object identifiers (OIDs) as part of the data for every table. Use this option if your application references the OID columns in some way (e.g., in a foreign key constraint). Otherwise, this option should not be used. This is Bacula 3 PostgreSQL 8. Thanks, Thomas Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Operations Systems Analyst P O Box 32026 University Library Boone, North Carolina 28608 (828) 262 6587 Library Systems http://www.library.appstate.edu -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Noob user impressions and why I chose not to use Bacula
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Bruno Friedmann br...@ioda-net.ch wrote: On 12/05/2011 03:39 AM, Jesse Molina wrote: Hi Recently I was looking for new backup app for my small network. Here's my story and why I decided that Bacula was not a good choice for me. I am not a long time user, so opinions and views may not be shared by others, but they are true none the less. You can only be a noob once and I hope this criticism can he constructive and helpful. I am not looking for any response from any users. You don't need to defend Bacula from some noob with a questionable opinion. Note that some of my notes below were jotted down in haste during testing Bacula and some of my comments might be rather harsh or vulgar. I'm not trying to troll or bash, and I hope these comments can be used to improve Bacula, and maybe I will get to use it again some day and it will be a better product. I tried to throw all of these notes into a coherent whole, but I'm sure some of it will come off as being out of order to not making any sense. -- [snip..] Thanks Jesse for sharing this testimony. Sometimes like a punch in the mouth, especially a Monday morning with the first coffee. :-) Some important points revealed. To respect your wishes about no answer or comment, I will shut up And this is hard, just prove me how much I like bacula :-) a :( I was expecting to see a good flame-throwing thread coming out of all of this... Seriously, I think that, maybe the original author is not asking for answers, but it could be productive to discuss some of the things he says (in a productive way). Ildefonso. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Noob user impressions and why I chose not touse Bacula
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:55 PM, James Harper james.har...@bendigoit.com.au wrote: Regarding the disaster recovery, I have a suggestion for the bacula team: Why not make the director write the bacula config files and any relevant bsr files at the beginning of each tape? The space wasted on the tape to save these file would be very small. A script to email the bsr file to a gmail/Hotmail/whatever account would suffice. It's not like the file contains any sensitive information. Well, yeah, you could also rsync those files to any of the available online storage solutions (some of them free) but, I think this breaks the point of being able to recover from just the tape, or for instance: any storage (disks, for example)... Now, I wonder if any backup solution out-there allows you to do this... ie: recover from just backup media, you *always* need to get OS running again... so, there is no such thing as bare metal recovery. Unless you create something like an installer image that uses the backup to restore the machine... mmm maybe a life-bacula... that automatically rebuild the catalog from volumes... uh... is that possible? (automatically and completely rebuild catalog from volumes?). Ildefonso Camargo -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] [GENERAL] Catastrophic changes to PostgreSQL 8.4
Hi! On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Jerome Alet jerome.a...@univ-nc.nc wrote: On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 10:54:07AM +0800, Craig Ringer wrote: Anyway, it'd be nice if Bacula would convert file names to utf-8 at the file daemon, using the encoding of the client, for storage in a utf-8 database. +1 for me. +1 here: it, in fact, have problems when restoring to a server with different code page as the original one. this is the way to go. I understand people with an existing backup history won't be very happy with this unless you provide them the appropriate tools or instructions to convert their database's content, though. bye -- Jérôme Alet - jerome.a...@univ-nc.nc - Centre de Ressources Informatiques Université de la Nouvelle-Calédonie - BPR4 - 98851 NOUMEA CEDEX Tél : +687 266754 Fax : +687 254829 -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Backup of in one directory with 800.000 files
Hi! On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Tobias Bartel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, sorry for my late response. I just finished migrating the catalog to a Postgre 8.1 Server and enabled spooling. Spooling space is 100GB, the horror directory only 70GB. I hope that both changes will give us a speed bump, well the Postgre should increase the performance and the spool dir should at least decrease the tapewear. 1. Did you optimized the PostgreSQL database to actually use the server? (if you stick with defaults, you will see a bad performance with many entries). 2. Please measure the speed of the spool space: if it is under 30MB/s, it is not good for your LTO-3 drive. I use these commands to give an approx of disk speed: dd if=/dev/zero of=cosa.img bs=10M count=100 conv=fsync (this gives write performance) dd if=cosa.img of=/dev/null bs=10M iflag=direct (read performance). I just started another test, lets see how long it will take ;) If everything is ok, it should take around 4 to 20 hours (max). I hope this helps, Ildefonso Camargo cya tobi Am Donnerstag, den 27.11.2008, 12:25 -0500 schrieb Ryan Novosielski: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tobias Bartel wrote: Hello, Even with 800,000 files, that sounds very slow. How much data is involved, how is it stored and how fast is your database server? It's about 70GB of data, stored on a Raid5 (3Ware controller). The database is a SQLite one, on the same machine but on a Software Raid 1. The backup device is an LTO3 connected via SCSI OS is a Debian stable. I already thought about moving the Database to MySQL but there is already a MySQL Server on the same box, it is a slave for our MySQL master and used for hourly Backups of our database (Stop the replication, do the backups and start the replication again). I don't really like the idea of adding a DB to the Slave that isn't on the master, nor do i like the idea of hacking up some custom MySQL install that runs parallel caus that will cost me with every future update. To be honest, i didn't expect that SQLite could be the bottle neck, it just can't be that slow. What made me think that its the number files, is that when i do an ls in that directory it takes ~15min before I see any output. My understanding is that you cannot expect decent performance out of SQLite for Bacula for any production level backup. I could be wrong here, but I say forget about SQLite for anything other than a trial, and definitely not using it for a backup that is extra demanding. You could use PostgreSQL if you wanted to avoid messing with the slave server (though something tells me that's not a major worry, but I am not sure about it), or just run MySQL on a different port which I don't think is all that hard (or, actually, use it in socket-only mode, which is even easier and I think would suffice). - -- _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | |Ryan Novosielski - Systems Programmer II |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/AST - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJLtgHmb+gadEcsb4RApbKAJ4gTg9fF8susc4iS6e44D9s7uWTxwCg2T/n hd0IuSIG6mg6J4FPrL/aRz8= =M8R0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
[Bacula-users] Problem with 53c1030 scsi card and a hp 1/8 g2 autochanger.
Hi! I know this is not a bacula issue, because it is hardware/driver related, but I think maybe there are some other persons with this same problem. I have a LSI Logic 53c1030-based HP scsi controller, installed in a DL-580 G5 server, and connected to a HP 1/8 G2 with Ultrium LTO-3 tape drive. - First, some background info: Initially they gave me VMWare virtual machine to configure the backup system, it worked *almost* find, except that the fill btape command failed the verification, so I just tried again (using a different pair of tapes), and it succeeded. Then, we saw the network was too slow (~5MB/s), and the servers we needed to backup were not virtual servers, so the we decided to move the backup system into a real server. Then they gave me and old server, with an smartarray controller, we connected the tape drive, and I noted the tape drive had no scsi terminator, so I asked for one and connected it. My first question: do you think the lack of scsi terminator could be the cause of the fill command failing? The smartarray controller only was able to detect the tape drive, no autochanger, then reading some info, I found that the smart array controllers (cciss) doesn't support more than 1 lun. - Back to the current setup: Then they gave the G5 server, with the LSI Logic 53c1030 scsi controller (mptspi driver)... but even though the LSI Controller BIOS sees both the Tape drive and the Tape loader, the OS doesn't. Furthermore, I see some Domain Validation errors on the system startup, and the OS only sees the tape drive, and no autochanger. Kernel version: 2.6.18 (Debian etch), also tried: 2.6.24 (Debian etch-nhalf) and 2.6.27.4 (vanilla): same result. Any ideas? Ildefonso Camargo - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] bacula and MySQL license
Hi! On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:27 AM, LeJav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am preparing a NFS server (Linux) which is a part of a global project for a customer. This NFS server will be backuped with bacula; I use MySQL for the database. Could someone explain me if I am right with MySQL licencing ? MySQL is only used for the bacula data. My global project is not GPL; but my NFS Server and bacula are GPL. Can I install bacula and MySQL on this server with respect to GPL licencing ? If your business is services, you have no problem at all, if you are doing some sort of closed source software development, it would be necessary to analyze the particular case. Thx for your answers. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] bacula and MySQL license
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:57 AM, LeJav wrote: Hello, I am preparing a NFS server (Linux) which is a part of a global project for a customer. This NFS server will be backuped with bacula; I use MySQL for the database. Could someone explain me if I am right with MySQL licencing ? MySQL is only used for the bacula data. My global project is not GPL; but my NFS Server and bacula are GPL. Can I install bacula and MySQL on this server with respect to GPL licencing ? I cannot imagine any circumstances under which this would not be allowed. Yes, there are: say that the project is a propiertary backup solution, and that the company wants to use bacula and/or mysql code for their non-gpl backup solution: they can't do that. -- Dan Langille http://langille.org/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] bacula and MySQL license
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008.11.07. 18:39, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:57 AM, LeJav wrote: Hello, I am preparing a NFS server (Linux) which is a part of a global project for a customer. This NFS server will be backuped with bacula; I use MySQL for the database. Could someone explain me if I am right with MySQL licencing ? MySQL is only used for the bacula data. My global project is not GPL; but my NFS Server and bacula are GPL. Can I install bacula and MySQL on this server with respect to GPL licencing ? I cannot imagine any circumstances under which this would not be allowed. Yes, there are: say that the project is a propiertary backup solution, and that the company wants to use bacula and/or mysql code for their non-gpl backup solution: they can't do that. please, please, don't do this. they can change the code until nobody can recognise it or whatever. they can molest, abuse, ridicule that code. as long as it stays inhouse, it's their choice. true. But they can't start selling a product based on a GPL software, and license it with other terms: they can sell the GPL product, but they must give access to the code under the GPL terms. now, if they modify and distribute the modified code... yes, now gpl kicks in and requires publishing changes (actually, that's not true either, they have to provide source to the receivers of the modifications). Not only that, it requires that such modifications are covered by GPL, which means that the receivers of the modifications can distribute the modifications, under the GPL terms. -- Dan Langille http://langille.org/ -- Rich - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Different IP for the same SD
Hi!
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is how I do different IP for the same SD. In my case, remote clients
access the SD via the gateway (public IP address which is forwarded
from my gateway to the SD) and local clients access the local IP address
(in the 192.168. block).
I have slightly altered this config from my actual, but it should
illustrate how
to do this.
From bacula-dir.conf
Storage {
Name = DLTRemoteTLS
Address= storage1.example.org
SDPort = 9103
Device = DLT
Media Type = DLT
}
# Definition of DLT tape storage device
Storage {
Name = DLT
Address= bacula.example.org
SDPort = 9103
Device = DLT
Media Type = DLT
}
That's it. Note that both Storage resources refer to the same Device.
Both Storage resources have different Address values. Use FQDN
and point each to different IP addresses.
In my case, bacula.example.org points to 192.168.1.12 and
DLTRemoteTLD refers to storage1.example.org, which is a public IP address.
Then in bacula-sd.conf, I define the DLT device.
Device {
Name= DLT
Description = QUANTUM DLT7000 1624
Media Type = DLT
Archive Device = /dev/nsa0
}
Nothing special. But it's clever. Someone else showed me how to do it.
Does that give you something to think about?
Sure it does: docs needs updating!
The thing is: can you run two backup jobs at the same time, one on each
storage address? (I think there should be no problem).
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Re: [Bacula-users] What new feature are you waiting for?
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Hemant Shah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- On Tue, 11/4/08, John Drescher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Drescher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] What new feature are you waiting for? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: junior.listas [EMAIL PROTECTED], Frank Sweetser [EMAIL PROTECTED], bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 10:05 AM Converting it to an XML file would not pose the problems specified in the above wiki, there are lots of tools to create/parse XML files tha could be useful. I would vote against this if I could. I mean this will make it harder for me to edit the configuration files through ssh and to me any gui tools to edit the files will just get in the way being that I have 40+ clients and about 75 different jobs. John How would it be difficult to edit file through ssh? If you can edit the current config file you can edit any text (XML) file. Nah, I don't like to edit XML files by hand. It is prone to errors. Just keep the config file format simple, it is easy to create a program that can parse the configuration format and let you edit it using a web or desktop interface, and it is even easier to edit/generate them using a perl script. Users who like GUI tools can use GUI tools, users like me who prefer vim can still edit files using vim or any other text editor. Hemant Shah E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Different IP for the same SD
Hi!
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 6, 2008, at 7:12 AM, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote:
Hi!
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is how I do different IP for the same SD. In my case, remote clients
access the SD via the gateway (public IP address which is forwarded
from my gateway to the SD) and local clients access the local IP address
(in the 192.168. block).
I have slightly altered this config from my actual, but it should
illustrate how
to do this.
From bacula-dir.conf
Storage {
Name = DLTRemoteTLS
Address= storage1.example.org
SDPort = 9103
Device = DLT
Media Type = DLT
}
# Definition of DLT tape storage device
Storage {
Name = DLT
Address= bacula.example.org
SDPort = 9103
Device = DLT
Media Type = DLT
}
That's it. Note that both Storage resources refer to the same Device.
Both Storage resources have different Address values. Use FQDN
and point each to different IP addresses.
In my case, bacula.example.org points to 192.168.1.12 and
DLTRemoteTLD refers to storage1.example.org, which is a public IP
address.
Then in bacula-sd.conf, I define the DLT device.
Device {
Name= DLT
Description = QUANTUM DLT7000 1624
Media Type = DLT
Archive Device = /dev/nsa0
}
Nothing special. But it's clever. Someone else showed me how to do it.
Does that give you something to think about?
Sure it does: docs needs updating!
In what way? I already stated this was documented. Here. I found it for
you:
http://www.bacula.org/en/rel-manual/Dealing_with_Firewalls.html
I just read it... it won't work, because I have all the servers en the same
network. The best bet is to play around with *local* name resolution (ie,
/etc/hosts or lmhosts), which can prove to be annoying.
Also, according to the doc you just gave, it says that using two different
Storage resources, no longer works:
The following discussion was originally written by Jesse Guardiani because
he has 'internal' and 'external' requiring the Director and the Client to
use different IP addresses. His original solution was to define two
different Storage resources in the Director's conf file each pointing to the
same Storage daemon but with different IP addresses. In Bacula 1.38.x this
no longer works, because Bacula makes a one-to-one association between a
Storage daemon resource and a Device (such as an Autochanger). As a
consequence, I have modified his original text to a method that I believe
will work, but is as of yet untested (KES - July 2006).
Duh
http://www.bacula.org/en/rel-manual/Dealing_with_Firewalls.html
The thing is: can you run two backup jobs at the same time, one on each
storage address? (I think there should be no problem).
I'm sure you can.It is merely a concurrent job. Why ask when you can
try? :)
Because it is easier? :) It was almost midnight by the time I wrote that.
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Re: [Bacula-users] What new feature are you waiting for?
Hi! I just don't get it: what is the problem that the web/desktop/whatever front-end modify a plain text file? I mean, the current config file format is so easy, that I have been able to make some windows-only (by this I mean people who almost never had touched a command prompt) admins actually understand and use it. I'm sure that if I give them a XML config file, they will mess it up (or run away). So... why complicate the config format, if you can keep it simple?. Anyway, I know it is harder to code a config tool that handle plain-text config files, than a tool that understand xml (because of the *ready-to-use* libraries), but it is not so hard. As for the database config: it is good, for say, a web application, but for a backup system: you *need* to make it work, maybe with almost no tools, in case of a disaster: if you have to setup a DB, and then reconfigure... it will take you longer (also you could have the bacula config files stored on a encrypted pen-drive, like I do, and just copy them really quickly). Now, I got another question (almost off-topic): I know some people, like me, who actually hates XML, I mean, we understand it, we are able to edit a xml file with no problem, but we just don't like it. then why is there so many people using it? I particularly think it is just too much format, too many tags. It makes me remember when I created web pages using vi. c-ya! Ildefonso. On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:58 PM, James Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. However, using an optional 'third-party' tool is quite acceptable to all. I refer here to Fruity and Nagios. The use of Fruity is optional. It produces plain text configuration files to be used by Nagios. That is the approach I would endorse for Bacula should anyone desire to code such a beast. Maybe a compromise would be to modify the 'include' statement so that could include an normal bacula config file (as it is now), an xml file, or from a database. If you were doing any of the latter two then your main bacula.conf file would just contain a single include line. It might also contain some bare essential config stuff so that the same config could still be used for disaster recovery, but essentially everything would be in your included data. Ok and then the configuration you made with the tool will be in a different format than the rest of the config file this is get the things even more obscure. That way we could all have the configuration mechanism we want without it upsetting anyone else. We could also have any combination of the above we wanted. I have never looked closely at the configuration code, but I believe that the stuff that actually does the parsing is pretty well contained, so I don't know that such a feature would be that intrusive. Kern: If someone submitted a patch to allow this would you consider accepting it? (if not, the point is probably moot :) Is this something a director plugin could accomplish? James - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] What new feature are you waiting for?
Hi! I was just thinking: In the next few days, I'll be configuring a 10 drive, and 245 tapes, LTO-4 autochanger... I mean, 10 drives, at ~120MB/s each drive.. well a LOT of speed. I don't think it makes sense to configure *all* these drives on the same server (I mean, the network is 1Gb, ~100MB/s, assuming the servers/switchs can handle it), so, even if I setup the concurrent jobs correctly, it still doesn't make sense to configure all the drives on the same server, because there will not be enough network speed to fully use them. So, it would be nice to have a way of either: + Configure one or more drives on *different* servers, and have bacula contact the *autochanger server* (which, off course, will have some tapes connected to it) in order to ask for a the tape load for *other* server. Or: + Make it possible to use several IPs on the same SD server, so that bacula can have different clients connect to different SD IP (well, actually the same machine). I know there are ways of bonding several ethernet interfaces into a faster one, but this requires a switch that support that feature. With current servers, there should not be problem for them to handle several 1Gb interfaces. Any comments are wellcome. c-ya! Ildefonso Camargo - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] What new feature are you waiting for?
Hi! On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: + Make it possible to use several IPs on the same SD server, so that bacula can have different clients connect to different SD IP (well, actually the same machine). I know there are ways of bonding several ethernet interfaces into a faster one, but this requires a switch that support that feature. With current servers, there should not be problem for them to handle several 1Gb interfaces. From http://www.bacula.org/en/rel-manual/Storage_Daemon_Configuratio.html SDAddresses = IP-address-specification Specify the ports and addresses on which the Storage daemon will listen for Director connections. Is this not what you need? That's not the problem, it can listen on *all* interfaces (0.0.0.0), but then: how do you make client X connect to A address, and client Y connect to B address? NOTE: I think Director in this case also applies to clients. -- Dan Langille http://langille.org/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] What new feature are you waiting for?
Hi! On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 4, 2008, at 6:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personal, I'd like to see more and better examples and documentation. More documentation? You do know we have rougly 1000 pages of documentation? If you think something specific is missing, write it and submit the patch. Seriously. Bacula is one of the best documented projects around. If you feel something is lacking, please join the documentation mailing list and tell us all about it. I fully agree. The only other project I know about with such a good documentation is PostgreSQL. -- Dan Langille http://langille.org/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] What new feature are you waiting for?
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:52 PM, Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 5, 2008, at 11:50 PM, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: Hi! On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: + Make it possible to use several IPs on the same SD server, so that bacula can have different clients connect to different SD IP (well, actually the same machine). I know there are ways of bonding several ethernet interfaces into a faster one, but this requires a switch that support that feature. With current servers, there should not be problem for them to handle several 1Gb interfaces. From http://www.bacula.org/en/rel-manual/Storage_Daemon_Configuratio.html SDAddresses = IP-address-specification Specify the ports and addresses on which the Storage daemon will listen for Director connections. Is this not what you need? That's not the problem, it can listen on *all* interfaces (0.0.0.0), but then: how do you make client X connect to A address, and client Y connect to B address? DNS cannot work for you? you mean DNS RR?: maybe, but it is *non-deterministic* (ie, it is likely that I end up having two clients on the same interface one day, and the other I have them on the other interface, and someday one on each interface, and so on...) I could also hack a different hostname -- IP mapping on each client, modifying its local hosts file, for unix systems, or lmhosts? (I don't remember), for windows but it keeps getting more complicated... imagine ~200 servers to backup, ~40 storage servers, it gets hard to keep track of it. I could also forget about all of that, and just go ahead and use interface bonding for adding up the interfaces at L2, but once again: it is more complicated, and I require a switch that support it (I actually have it, but I know that not everybody have one) The ideal would be that bacula actually could run a round-robin around several IP/Hostnames for the storage, so when it goes to tell the client connect to this sd, it just picks an address from the pool, and gives it but for this we first need that bacula actually use several tapes at the same time, instead of interleaving the backup jobs on the same tape... off course, this complicates things. But I think there should be a better solution for using multi-drive autochanger. I was thinking that it should run one job per drive, doesn't matter if all the jobs use the same pool, then you would end with one job on each tape, but you will have several half-full tapes. It is not a simple matter, bacula is a complex software, and as the time pass-by, it keeps getting more complex. When I wrote this feature request, I didn't thought about all the details. I was thinking about the *other* idea: + Configure one or more drives on *different* servers, and have bacula contact the *autochanger server* (which, off course, will have some tapes connected to it) in order to ask for a the tape load for *other* server. Maybe using a complex mtx script, that uses ssh + cert to connect to the *autochanger server*, and remotely run the mtx command this could actually work, except that bacula can get confussed with the different barcodes showing up on several servers at the same time, and don't think about the update slots scan command... maybe a range filter could help here, cut the autochanger into several pieces, and have each sd own its piece. but then this reduce the usefullness of the whole idea. I also think that bacula should have no problem where I put a tape, as long as the device has the same Media Type, I even remember to have seen some suggestive fields in the DB, that made this sort of thing possible, only that for some reason it just don't work. I have different IP addresses for my SD and create different SD entries in bacula-dir.conf... all of them point to the same SD. Nice, I didn't know you could do that. I always thought that each SD had one and only one bacula-dir.conf entry, because the manual states: *Name = name* The name of the storage resource. This name appears on the Storage directive specified in the Job resource and is required. So... the Name should be the same as in the bacula-sd.conf on the SD server... How can you create several SD entries for the same SD server?, does bacula just ignore the Name and goes ahead and connect? -- Dan Langille http://langille.org/ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo
Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: Bacula and LTO4 weirdness.
Hi! On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:27 AM, John Drescher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry about the late response it looks like whenever a backup run completes and bacula finishes a volume to catalog verify run on all of my servers, when I try to start a new backup like a normal nightly, it throws the following error and marks the tape Error. 01-Nov 00:01 unixtape-sd JobId 16373: Volume 027735L4 previously written, moving to end of data. 01-Nov 01:17 unixtape-sd JobId 16373: Error: Bacula cannot write on tape Volume 027735L4 because: The number of files mismatch! Volume=629 Catalog=630 I have had this very same problem. In my case, it happen when the server is shutdown uncleanly, and the tape was on the drive I managed to make it force by adding the TWO EOF = yes option, but I'm not sure on it :-S . This has happen to me with LTO-4 and LTO-3 drives. As for LTO-2: this far no problem. I don't have the brand/model of each, but the LTO-4 is IBM and the LTO-3 is HP (I don't remember the model), LTO-2 is a Dell PowerVault, and off course, I don't remember the model number :( . Seems to happen every time I try to start a backup after a verify run. ever seen that before? other than that it is running great, however I would like to get full use out of all my tapes without them getting marked error thanks. again. Me too. :( I don't fully understand the effect of the TWO EOF setting, because with it enabled, the btape tests fails, nevertheless, the system works just fine with it enabled, and so far (three weeks), the backup system is working just fine (altought I have and eye on it alwayas). - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] What new feature are you waiting for?
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tilman Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Langille schrieb: With the upcoming release of Bacula, what new feature are you waiting for? I'm still looking for a way to tell Bacula to use whatever tape is present in a standalone drive. (Provided it is in the correct pool and appendable or eligible for recycling, of course.) That would really spare me some hassle when my tape operator has made a mistake. I second this one. I have a multiple drive exchanger, and I hate when it unload a tape just to load it to another drive, I mean, it already had it there, why not use it? Ildefonso Camargo. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: Bacula and LTO4 weirdness.
Hi, again. On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:27 AM, John Drescher [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Sorry about the late response it looks like whenever a backup run completes and bacula finishes a volume to catalog verify run on all of my servers, when I try to start a new backup like a normal nightly, it throws the following error and marks the tape Error. 01-Nov 00:01 unixtape-sd JobId 16373: Volume 027735L4 previously written, moving to end of data. 01-Nov 01:17 unixtape-sd JobId 16373: Error: Bacula cannot write on tape Volume 027735L4 because: The number of files mismatch! Volume=629 Catalog=630 I have had this very same problem. In my case, it happen when the server is shutdown uncleanly, and the tape was on the drive I managed to make it force by adding the TWO EOF = yes option, but I'm not sure on it :-S . Well, not only the server, also the tape, I have had this kind of problems when there are power outages. Oh, by the way, I wrote I managed to make it force..., I was supposed to write I managed to make it work..., sorry, I'm falling asleep :( . This has happen to me with LTO-4 and LTO-3 drives. As for LTO-2: this far no problem. I don't have the brand/model of each, but the LTO-4 is IBM and the LTO-3 is HP (I don't remember the model), LTO-2 is a Dell PowerVault, and off course, I don't remember the model number :( . Seems to happen every time I try to start a backup after a verify run. ever seen that before? other than that it is running great, however I would like to get full use out of all my tapes without them getting marked error thanks. again. Me too. :( I don't fully understand the effect of the TWO EOF setting, because with it enabled, the btape tests fails, nevertheless, the system works just fine with it enabled, and so far (three weeks), the backup system is working just fine (altought I have and eye on it alwayas). - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: Bacula and LTO4 weirdness.
Hi!
This is my drive definition:
Device {
Name = IBM-ULT3580-TD4
Drive Index = 0
Media Type = Ultrium-LTO-4
Archive Device = /dev/nst0
AutomaticMount = yes;
AutoChanger = Yes
AlwaysOpen = yes;
RemovableMedia = yes;
RandomAccess = no;
TWO EOF = Yes;
Spool Directory = /cosa
Alert Command = sh -c 'smartctl -H -l error %c'
}
/cosa is tmpfs (~1.5GB)
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Jason Selwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thanks.. looks like I currently have that option enabled, here is what my
drive definition is from the SD conf file. I too am using an IBM LTO-4
drive, I'd like to see what you have for your drive maybe it's another
setting I have awry,.
Device {
Name = IBM-ULTRIUM-LTO4
Media Type = LTO4
Archive Device = /dev/nst2
Hardware End of Medium = no
BSF at EOM = yes
Autochanger = yes
Drive Index = 0
Offline On Unmount = yes
Backward Space Record = no
Fast Forward Space File = no
TWO EOF = yes
AutomaticMount = yes;
RemovableMedia = yes;
RandomAccess = no;
Alert Command = sh -c 'tapeinfo -f %c |grep TapeAlert|cat'
}
Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote:
Hi!
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:27 AM, John Drescher [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Sorry about the late response it looks like whenever a backup run
completes and bacula finishes a volume to catalog verify run on all of
my servers, when I try to start a new backup like a normal nightly, it
throws the following error and marks the tape Error.
01-Nov 00:01 unixtape-sd JobId 16373: Volume 027735L4 previously
written, moving to end of data.
01-Nov 01:17 unixtape-sd JobId 16373: Error: Bacula cannot write on
tape Volume 027735L4 because:
The number of files mismatch! Volume=629 Catalog=630
I have had this very same problem. In my case, it happen when the server is
shutdown uncleanly, and the tape was on the drive I managed to make it
force by adding the TWO EOF = yes option, but I'm not sure on it :-S .
This has happen to me with LTO-4 and LTO-3 drives. As for LTO-2: this far
no problem. I don't have the brand/model of each, but the LTO-4 is IBM and
the LTO-3 is HP (I don't remember the model), LTO-2 is a Dell PowerVault,
and off course, I don't remember the model number :( .
Seems to happen every time I try to start a backup after a verify run.
ever seen that before? other than that it is running great, however I
would like to get full use out of all my tapes without them getting
marked error thanks. again.
Me too. :( I don't fully understand the effect of the TWO EOF setting,
because with it enabled, the btape tests fails, nevertheless, the system
works just fine with it enabled, and so far (three weeks), the backup system
is working just fine (altought I have and eye on it alwayas).
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