Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula Project will Die

2010-11-05 Thread Marcos Leão
Heitor,

Your bacula training courses are not free!

Your book "Bacula, ferramenta livre de backup" are also not free!

You can make money with bacula, but others can't. Well, I understand...




2010/11/5 Ryan Novosielski 

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> On 11/05/2010 09:52 AM, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > On Friday 05 November 2010 14:08:37 Heitor Medrado de Faria wrote:
> >> Guys,
> >>
> >> Each new Bacula Enterprise feature, like the: New GUI Configurator,
> >> makes me feel that Bacula project will die.
> >> It's very frustrating that a project that become a huge success being a
> >> free software, is being destroyed like that.
> >> I acknowledge that Kern and other developers had lots of development
> >> work on Bacula - and there is not huge contribution. But creating a paid
> >> fork is not the way of get compensation.
> >
> > Bacula Systems has financed additional features and has created an
> Enterprise
> > version that is available to subscribers.
> >
> > All community contributions including most Bacula Systems contributions
> go
> > into the community version which is available to everyone.
> >
> > For two years we were putting everything into the community version, but
> the
> > company will not survive that is very clear -- Bacula Systems spends more
> > than CHF 50,000 / month in salaries and other costs.  Very few people or
> > companies are willing to finance this for something that is free.
> >
> > You complain, but you suggest no viable alternatives. I nolonger want to
> be
> > the only person contributing most to Bacula and fixing most of the bugs.
> So
> > If Bacula Systems fails, the project will most likely die, stagnate, or
> the
> > code reliablity will become so bad in a few years that no one will want
> to
> > use it.
> >
> > I have spent 15 years contributing everything I do to Open Source, 10 of
> those
> > years to Bacula. Other people have done more, but for me that is a lot!
>  All
> > the code I continue t contribute is Open Source, but I choose not to give
> all
> > of it to everyone today, because I want to see Bacula continue -- the
> only
> > way to do so is to ensure that Bacula Systems continues.  Both Bacula
> Systems
> > and I could make the code proprietary as do virtually all other projects
> that
> > include support.  We have chosen to continue writing Open Source, which
> has a
> > lot of risks.
> >
> > I find it ungrateful of you to complain about a not getting everything
> you
> > want for free -- especially when Bacula Systems has contributed *far*
> more
> > than the community in creating version 5.0.x.  One of the projects I am
> > working on for the next community release is restarting failed jobs.
>  When I
> > hear statements and complaints such as yours, it makes me wonder why I
> > shouldn't just put that code only into the Enterprise version.
> >
> > Had you attended the recent Bacula conference, you would have had ample
> time
> > to discuss these points and to hear what I and other users say.
> >
> > If you want these features, why don't you submit the code for them or
> > stimulate the community to do so.  Anything that comes from the community
> > will be available to the community, and this is generally after we invest
> a
> > significant amount of time correcting the code, debugging it, testing it,
> > releasing it, documenting the new features, and then later supporting it
> with
> > bug fixes.  I have the feeling that most people are unaware of the amount
> of
> > work that goes into creating and supporting Bacula -- even with features
> > contributed by the community.
> >
> > The Bacula project will only die if Bacula Systems fails and the
> community
> > does not make more contributions.
> >
> > So please stop complaining, and be happy that Bacula Systems is
> contributing
> > to the Bacula project, and that all of Bacula Systems code is Open
> Source,
> > even if everyone doesn't get everything for free.  This is far better
> than us
> > taking the code proprietary as other projects are doing.  Continuing to
> > complain may well contribute to the Bacula project dying.
>
> Kern,
>
> Thank you for what you do provide. Bacula has been a great and
> trouble-free piece of software. I'd love to adopt it more and move to
> the paid enterprise edition, but that is not how my workplace thinks. So
> again, kudos and thank you.
>
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[Bacula-users] Fwd: Can someone help me to solve my logical problem... ?

2010-03-11 Thread Marcos Leão
ok, there does not appear to be an easy way to schedule for every 20 days.
But for every 21 days it can by easy:

w01, w04, w07, w10, w13, ... w5x Mon at 22:00

will do the trick!

-- Forwarded message --
From: John Drescher 
Date: Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Can someone help me to solve my logical
problem... ?
To: gnowar 
Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net


On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:22 AM, gnowar  wrote:
>
>>If the volume is pruned then the jobs and files on that volume have to
>>be pruned. If bacula is not operating this way this is a bug.
>
> I think it is. I understood that should works this way when I read the
spec
> but that doesn't work on my system..
>

What is the status of that volume?

Use the console list media command:

list media

>
>>You need to modify your schedule how I explained in my first post.
>
> As you saw, I don't speak english so well,

Yes. I guarantee that your English is better than the only other
language I know somewhat..

>  I didn't find anything relevent
> in the spec you gave me. I understand how to use one pool for the
twentieth
> day of a month, but not for every 20 days. It's different cause it's
> completly random comared to the day, of a month (I don't know if I'm
clear,
> that should work like a "counter" ?)
>

I think you are correct. There does not appear to be an easy way to
schedule this.

>
> I don't know if it's possible, and if it is, that's the key of my problem.
>

You could use a bash script that feeds commands to bconsole to force
bacula to run jobs on the 20th day.

> Hope you understand me.
>
I'm trying..

John

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