Re: [Bacula-users] problem recycling volumes
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005, Daniel Weuthen wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2005, Daniel Weuthen wrote: [..] Now, it would be nice if it would be possible to spin down the disks after usage. I don't think so, because of my understanding on physics, the stress to material is higher when the temperature is changing, than at a constant level. spinning up an down would mean that during backup the temperature of the drives are rising to go down afterwards. Well, six of the seven drives would be unused for one week, when i understood your concept. When they are unnecessarily running they waste a lot of power and generate a lot of unnecssary heat. I don't think that this is measurable in mid size data center. Depends on how much equipment you extend your opinion ;-) No, i do not really want to argue too much. It was just a stray idea. And when there would be a prebuilt, working solution - one that probably takes your arguments into account and heats up the disk(s), before it fully uses it - it would not be a bad thing. And when every bacula user in the whole world would use it... ;-) (mk) -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] commandline for update all volumes from pool ?
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005, Kern Sibbald wrote: [...] There is no single command line that can do update all volumes from pool. Unfortunately, not every option of every command is available through command line arguments. Thanks, this saved my time, because i planned to dig through the code before i open a bug. I think i save even more time and do _not_ open a bug :) A bconsole script can do the job though -- you basically have to give the right responses to a couple of prompts. Yes, that's acceptable, because the pool config is normally static during tests. For a general solution i could write an expect script. (mk) -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] commandline for update all volumes from pool ?
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005, Kern Sibbald wrote: On Wednesday 14 September 2005 07:57, Matthias Kurz wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2005, Kern Sibbald wrote: [...] A bconsole script can do the job though -- you basically have to give the right responses to a couple of prompts. Yes, that's acceptable, because the pool config is normally static during tests. For a general solution i could write an expect script. It is probably much easier to do: ./bconsole END_OF_DATA update 2 3 ... END_OF_DATA Yes, i understood. But during the dialog it presents a list with the names of the configured pools and a list of volumes. This lists can change from time to time or from site to site. This is what i meant. A general script could just be called as uv pool-name. (mk) -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] commandline for update all volumes from pool ?
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005, Matthias Kurz wrote:
[...]
A general script could just be called as uv pool-name.
I could not resist:
-8-8-8-8-8-8-8
#!/bin/env expect -f
proc Choose {mentry} {
global iprompt
set mentry_re *(\[0-9]+): $mentry\r\n
expect {
-nocase \
-re $mentry_re { set index $expect_out(1,string); exp_continue }
-re $iprompt { send $index\r }
}
}
proc ChooseMediaID {} {
expect -re \\| +(\[0-9]+)
set mediaID $expect_out(1,string)
expect -re \r\n\[^|+-]+ name:
send $mediaID\r
}
#
# --- MAIN
#
# log_file -noappend uv.log
set poolName [lindex $argv 0]
set prompt \r\n\\*
set iprompt \\(1-\[0-9]+\\):
spawn bconsole
expect -re $prompt
send update volumes\r
Choose volume parameters
Choose $poolName
ChooseMediaID
Choose all volumes from pool
Choose $poolName
expect -re $prompt
send exit\r
expect { * { exp_continue }
eof { exit } }
-8-8-8-8-8-8-8
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[Bacula-users] commandline for update all volumes from pool ?
Hi. What command do i have to type in the console to update all volumes of a pool ? Without going through the menues. Thanks (mk) -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Reloading config files
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005, Frederic PIERROT wrote: Hi, As written in the doc, it's not possible to reload more than 10 times config files from the console unless i release at least one old set of config values. Can someone explain me how to do that ? (didn't find how in documentation) Gosh, i just had the same problem. Now i have the same question. status dir shows no running jobs. I can easily reproduce this by restarting the daemons and then typing 11 times reload in the console. (mk) -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Reloading config files
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005, Phil Stracchino wrote: Matthias Kurz wrote: On Mon, Sep 12, 2005, Frederic PIERROT wrote: Hi, As written in the doc, it's not possible to reload more than 10 times config files from the console unless i release at least one old set of config values. Can someone explain me how to do that ? (didn't find how in documentation) Gosh, i just had the same problem. Now i have the same question. status dir shows no running jobs. I can easily reproduce this by restarting the daemons and then typing 11 times reload in the console. I think this is a case where, at least as an interim measure, the documentation should be amended to add a note something to the effect of: While it is possible to reload the Director's configuration on the fly, even while jobs are executing, this is a complex operation and not without side effects. Accordingly, if you have to reload the Director's configuration while Bacula is running, it is advisable to restart the Director at the next convenient opportunity. I also prefer to restart the daemons instead of doing a reload. And for sure i will do restart the daemons after i used reload. But when i experiment around (with retention timings and update pool/media in my case), reload is just faster. And i did it while there was _no_ other activity. Nonetheless it stopped working after 10 reloads. (mk) -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] commandline for update all volumes from pool ?
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005, Arno Lehmann wrote: Hello, On 12.09.2005 11:33, Matthias Kurz wrote: Hi. What command do i have to type in the console to update all volumes of a pool ? Without going through the menues. I don't know which version of bacula you use, but in the development version there is the command 'update all volumes from pool' which should do what you want. Sorry. I'm running the development version (very latest from CVS). 'update all volumes from pool[=pool-name]' does the same as 'update pool[=pool-name]'. The media/volume records are unchanged. (mk) -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Using wild with dot files
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005, Michael Carey wrote: Hi all, I'm using Bacula 1.36.3. I've been trying to set up fileset exclusions for a number of Mac related files that start with a dot (e.g. '.AppleDB' on Linux systems running netatalk; '.DS_Store', and files starting with '._' on a Windows system, that get left behind after a Mac file copy.) I initially tried the following 'wild' matches: wildfile = .DS_Store wildfile = ._* wilddir = .AppleDB None of the above seemed to work. After a lot of trial and error, I found that adding a '*' in front of each name did the trick, so the entries became: wildfile = *.DS_Store wildfile = *._* wilddir = *.AppleDB Can anyone shed any light on this? If this is the intended behaviour, should it be noted in the documentation? This is at least not the expected behaviour :) The problem seems to be that not the basename is matched against the pattern from the Wild* directive, but the whole path. That it is recommended to enclose the string in double quotes, _is_ documented. This doesn't play a role here, though. The FileSet resource is utterly complex. It would be nice when the estimate command could list all files and directories that are _filtered_. This would make it easier to see what is really excluded from backups. BTW: wildfile = *.DS_Store does also match all files with the extension .DS_Store (e.g. bla.DS_Store. It would probably be better to use: wildfile = */.DS_Store (mk) -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Trouble installing bacula with MySQL
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005, Jason Yau wrote: [...] I installed the mysql and mysql-devel RPM pacakages, and I have verified that mysql.h is located in /usr/include/mysql. Command taken from default config: ./configure \ --sbindir=$HOME/bacula/bin \ --sysconfdir=$HOME/bacula/bin \ --with-pid-dir=$HOME/bacula/bin/working \ --with-subsys-dir=$HOME/bacula/bin/working \ --enable-smartalloc \ --enable-gnome \ --enable-static-tools \ --with-mysql=/usr/include/mysql/ \ The test for mysql is in bacula-macros/db.m4. Try --with-mysql=yes or --with-mysql=/. --with-working-dir=$HOME/bacula/bin/working \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ --with-smtp-host=localhost Error: checking for MySQL support... no configure: error: Invalid MySQL directory /usr/include/mysql/ - unable to find m ysql.h under /usr/include/mysql/ Take a look in config.log. There you can find more details about what went wrong during the configure run. (mk) -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] schedule resource
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005, Maurizio Santini wrote:
Hi,
Just a question about the schedule resource. If the Pool directive is
not defined like in
# This schedule does the catalog. It starts after the WeeklyCycle
Schedule {
Name = WeeklyCycleAfterBackup
Run = Full sun-sat at 1:10
}
...does it mean that it uses the Default pool?
No, it uses the pool that is defined in the Job resource. If no pool is
defined, you get an error. I just tried it. Actually, Pool is a required
directive in the Job resource. There is no default. You have to specify
one, even when you plan to override it in the Schedule resource.
(mk)
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[Bacula-users] Re: [Bacula-devel] Bacula status
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005, Kern Sibbald wrote: [...] If you want to read about my idea, please visit: http://www.bacula.org/OpenSourceFunding.html Your comments are welcome. Hi. Can you say with few words what the consequences of this are for (free) packaging projects like Debian, BSD ports, OpenPKG,... ? Are they allowed to continue building and distributing packages without any restriction ? Do they have to pay or do they have to control whether the users of their packages will pay ? (mk) -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Re: [Bacula-devel] Bacula status
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005, Kern Sibbald wrote: On Wednesday 24 August 2005 16:41, Matthias Kurz wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2005, Kern Sibbald wrote: [...] If you want to read about my idea, please visit: http://www.bacula.org/OpenSourceFunding.html Your comments are welcome. Hi. Can you say with few words what the consequences of this are for (free) packaging projects like Debian, BSD ports, OpenPKG,... ? No change, because to the best of my knowledge none of these use Bacula binaries. Well, when you mean http://www.bacula.org/OpenSourceFunding.html; with the doc. I did read it before i posted :-) And the last sentence in the paragraph Fee structure reads: ... By the way, a source rpm would probably be included in the binary license since it is also a binary even if it does contain the source. If some Open Source project wants to re-distribute our binaries, we will need to discuss it. Are they allowed to continue building and distributing packages without any restriction ? Yes, of course. The source is open for everyone to use. Even companies and others can avoid any charges by building from source. Sorry, when i pester you too much :) Will there be restrictions in the _distribution_ of source rpms or the like ? (mk) -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: [Bacula-devel] Proposal for location of gnome-console
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005, Jesse Keating wrote: [...] However one thing that _has_ bothered me is that when running bconsole, it does not by default look at /etc/bacula/ for a bconsole.conf file. So when I run it I have to manually point to the config file with -c. Current directory is viewed for a conf file, it just makes sense to me that the /etc/bacula/ directory would be checked too. So perhaps this change could be piggybacked on as well? Yes, *please*. (mk) -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: [Bacula-devel] Proposal for location of gnome-console
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005, Matthias Kurz wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2005, Jesse Keating wrote: [...] However one thing that _has_ bothered me is that when running bconsole, it does not by default look at /etc/bacula/ for a bconsole.conf file. So when I run it I have to manually point to the config file with -c. Current directory is viewed for a conf file, it just makes sense to me that the /etc/bacula/ directory would be checked too. So perhaps this change could be piggybacked on as well? Yes, *please*. Well, it's probably easy to write a wrapper around all of the binaries, like the (modified) bconsole wrapper below. But that's ugly. I'm not so sure whether changing the lookup from . to $prefix/etc/bacula is convenient in all situations. E.g. on a rescue CD. Maybe a combination of $HOME/.bacula with a bacula.conf file in it that has a configdir directive. I wish i had kept my mouth shut. (mk) 888888 #!/bin/sh prefix=/opkg # from the --prefix option if [ $# = 1 ]; then case $1 in -* ) ;; * ) set -- -c $1.conf ;; esac fi # The following works, because bconsole accepts multiple '-c' options. # The last '-c' wins. exec $prefix/sbin/bconsole -c $prefix/etc/bacula/bconsole.conf $@ 888888 -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] problem recycling volumes
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005, Daniel Weuthen wrote: [..] Now, it would be nice if it would be possible to spin down the disks after usage. I don't think so, because of my understanding on physics, the stress to material is higher when the temperature is changing, than at a constant level. spinning up an down would mean that during backup the temperature of the drives are rising to go down afterwards. Well, six of the seven drives would be unused for one week, when i understood your concept. When they are unnecessarily running they waste a lot of power and generate a lot of unnecssary heat. (mk) -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] problem recycling volumes
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005, Daniel Weuthen wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2005, Daniel Weuthen wrote: [..] Now, it would be nice if it would be possible to spin down the disks after usage. I don't think so, because of my understanding on physics, the stress to material is higher when the temperature is changing, than at a constant level. spinning up an down would mean that during backup the temperature of the drives are rising to go down afterwards. Well, six of the seven drives would be unused for one week, when i understood your concept. When they are unnecessarily running they waste a lot of power and generate a lot of unnecssary heat. I don't think that this is measurable in mid size data center. Depends on how much equipment you extend your opinion ;-) No, i do not really want to argue too much. It was just a stray idea. And when there would be a prebuilt, working solution - one that probably takes your arguments into account and heats up the disk(s), before it fully uses it - it would not be a bad thing. And when every bacula user in the whole world would use it... ;-) (mk) -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] problem recycling volumes
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005, Michael 'buk' Scherer wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 - 12:14pm, Daniel Weuthen wrote: Just one quick they that jumped into my eye at first: Why do you use one pool for every day? Because that was why i concluded from the docs. Do you replace the disk every day? ours are permanantly mounted. Yes we do, cause we use tapes. ;^) With using the Max Use Duration you can limit the use of your disks. When you set it to 23h you make sure it wont get used after that - e.g. for the next days backup. And they remain used for the Volume Retention, 6 days in your config. Now, it would be nice if it would be possible to spin down the disks after usage. (mk) -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] default location of config files ?
Hi. Why is the default location for config files the current directory and not the directory that was configured with --sysconfdir ? (mk) -- Matthias Kurz; Fuldastr. 3; D-28199 Bremen; VOICE +49 421 53 600 47 Im prämotorischen Cortex kann jeder ein Held sein. (bdw) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
