Re: [Bacula-users] Merry Christmas...
On Dec 23, 2006, at 7:40 AM, Arno Lehmann wrote: ... to all of you, even if you aren't christian, or have to work, or whatever. Have some nice days! Arno Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all in the Bacula community including Kern and other developers. A big thank to all of you for developing such a good piece of software and for excellent, gentle support. Where else would you find a discussion list in which the chief developer reads each and every mail and answers questions even from dummies like us! The same goes for other leading developers. Thank you all again! - Sarath - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Restored file not found
Have you checked for the restored files on the correct machine? From your
output, the files are restored in the /data/bacula-restores/ directory on
tls-intra-fd. By default, files are restored to a directory on the
corresponding client.
- Sarath
On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, DAve wrote:
Good morning,
What little time I have to work with the new Bacula install has gone
well. I have all my clients working, baculaups are running fine.
Thanks for the help with the messages resource, my messages are working
as we wanted now.
I wanted to test a restore before turning off my old Bacula install and
I can't seem to find the files! Oddly, everything appears to be working
fine. The restore process functions, I find the file and mark it,
messages show the restore is running, I get a completion notice showing
the file restored. But when I look in my bacula-restores directory there
is nothing there.
Perms on bacula-restores are bacula:bacula
bash-2.05b# ls -la /data/bacula-restores/
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 2 bacula bacula 512 Jul 10 14:01 .
drwxr-xr-x 7 bacula bacula 512 Oct 11 14:28 ..
The default restore job is unchanged from the install other than the
restore location.
# Standard Restore template, to be changed by Console program
# Only one such job is needed for all Jobs/Clients/Storage ...
#
Job {
Name = RestoreFiles
Type = Restore
Client = director-fd
FileSet=Full Set
Storage = director
Pool = Default
Messages = Standard
Where = /data/bacula-restores
}
I find the file and mark it, I mod the 'When' param, I mod the 'Storage'
param, and run the job. Checking status from bconsole shows the job
running just fine. The job notification is below,
08-Nov 10:39 director-dir: Start Restore Job
RestoreFiles.2006-11-08_10.39.34
08-Nov 08:29 storage2-sd: Ready to read from volume
Inc-tls-intra-data-0001 on device FileStorage-tls-intra-data
(/data/backups/tls/intra-data).
08-Nov 10:39 director-dir: Bacula 1.38.5 (18Jan06): 08-Nov-2006 10:39:39
JobId: 1211
Job:RestoreFiles.2006-11-08_10.39.34
Client: tls-intra-fd
Start time: 08-Nov-2006 10:39:36
End time: 08-Nov-2006 10:39:39
Files Expected: 1
Files Restored: 1
Bytes Restored: 28,059
Rate: 9.4 KB/s
FD Errors: 0
FD termination status: OK
SD termination status: OK
Termination:Restore OK
08-Nov 10:39 director-dir: Begin pruning Jobs.
08-Nov 10:39 director-dir: No Jobs found to prune.
08-Nov 10:39 director-dir: Begin pruning Files.
08-Nov 10:39 director-dir: No Files found to prune.
08-Nov 10:39 director-dir: End auto prune.
But there is no file in /data/bacula-restores! I've no problems
restoring on my previous Bacula installs. The *one* difference is my
other Bacula installs all have the director, sd, and fd on the same
server with the backup storage on mirrored drives. This install has a
central director with two storage servers and multiple clients.
I read through the manual thoroughly, or so I thought. Do I need to do
something different for this configuration?
Thanks,
DAve
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Re: [Bacula-users] `make_sqlite_tables` failing, syntax error in regress/scripts/setup?
I had a similar problem. It turned out to be a permission issue. I was
running make_sqlite_tables as root, so bacula.db was ownned by root. I had
to change ownership to bacula to get it working. Your problem is not
exactly the same, but could be caused by a similar permission problem.
- Sarath
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
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Hey all,
Still plugging away at regress (HP-UX was probably not the easiest
platform choice, but it is what is available for testing)...
My latest trouble is with make_sqlite_tables. I don't know why it is
failing -- it doesn't seem like I missed a step as this seems to 'just
work' normally...
Any ideas?
My SQLite is 2.8.7 in /opt/sqlite and my Bacula is 1.38.11. Finally got
through the build portions, but having never used SQLite before, not
sure where to go from here -- does not seem to be more than a few files
in my SQLite install, and no man pages:
# ./make_sqlite_tables bacula
SQL error: near bacula: syntax error
chmod: can't access bacula.db
...which appears to be this command here:
${bindir}/${sqlite} $* bacula.db END-OF-DATA
CREATE TABLE Filename (
FilenameId INTEGER,
Name TEXT DEFAULT ,
PRIMARY KEY(FilenameId)
);
...where $sqlite=sqlite and $*=bacula.
This is called by 'make_bacula_tables bacula':
if test xsqlite = xsqlite -o xsqlite3 = xsqlite ; then
echo Making SQLite tables
/home/novosirj/regress/bin/make_sqlite_tables $*
else
...which is in turn called by 'setup':
cd bin
./create_bacula_database bacula
./drop_bacula_tables bacula
./make_bacula_tables bacula
./grant_bacula_privileges bacula
Thanks for the help.
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Re: [Bacula-users] Labeling problem
Hi, On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, Eric Yellin wrote: I installed Bacula and labeled a few tapes. After playing around with it a bit I deleted the database and re-created it. When trying to run a backup I got the following: Cannot find any appendable volumes. Please use the label command to create a new Volume for: Storage: Tape-Drive1 (/dev/sa0) Media type: DLT-1 Pool: Default The volumes are already labeled and therefore I cannot label them: Cannot label Volume because it is already labeled: volume:1 Since I deleted the database, I can't use the purge or relabel commands either. How can I proceed and relable the already labeled volume that is not in the database? Thanks, Eric You have apparently labeled tapes using btape. Bacula has no idea about their existence. You need to *add* them to the database (using 'add' command in bconsole). - Sarath - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Make install blows up on HP-UX 11i during regress build
Hi, Without trying to analyze in detail, could it be that you are running make in some unexpected environment? I have encountered similar problems (not bacula specific) when I, for example, try to run a bash script from the csh prompt. - Sarath On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Ryan Novosielski wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The interesting thing is that I have Bacula 1.39.22 BETA installed on this host, so this must have worked at some point... but I can't imagine what could be different between then and now. I went back and tried 'make install' on that version too, but it blows up the same way. At any rate, here's what happens... I do a make (or actually regress does, but it doesn't really make a difference). It then calls make install, which the Makefile says is: - --- install: installdirs @for I in $(all_subdirs); do (cd $$I $(MAKE) DESTDIR=$(DESTDIR) $@ || exit 1); done - --- ...installdirs seems to succeed, but install does not: - --- # make install ./autoconf/mkinstalldirs /home/novosirj/regress/bin ./autoconf/mkinstalldirs /home/novosirj/regress/bin ./autoconf/mkinstalldirs /home/novosirj/regress/bin if test ! -d /home/novosirj/regress/working ; then \ ./autoconf/mkinstalldirs /home/novosirj/regress/working; \ chmod 770 /home/novosirj/regress/working; \ fi if test x != x ; then \ chown /home/novosirj/regress/working; \ fi if test x != x ; then \ chgrp /home/novosirj/regress/working; \ fi sh: Syntax error at line 1 : `for' is not matched. *** Error exit code 2 Stop. - --- I'm personally at a loss, and like I said, this fails identically on my 1.39.22 source that is already installed. Did I play some trick and forget about it, because I don't see anything that jumps out at me now. Thank you for any assistance any of you are able to provide. - -- _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | |Ryan Novosielski - Systems Programmer III |$| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/AST - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFNUNNmb+gadEcsb4RAmTvAJ9K87m1fi4r4OGcehbc9HTnjQWVxwCfUWEw Xb5SwSazUYTPuHauF71DiSE= =OQLh -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] ./bacula-tray-monitor error message
Hi, On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Jayashri Kuntamukkala wrote: I am Trying to Install Bacula on Suse Linux 10. following are the steps i followed.. 1. Downloaded depkgs-25Jun06.tar.gz,bacula-1.38.11.tar.gz ,bacula-docs-1.38.11-1.tar.gz and installed the packages. 2. then, ./configure --enable-smartalloc --sbindir=/usr/local/bacula/bin --sysconfdir=/usr/local/bacula/bin --with-pid-dir=/usr/local/bacula/bin/working --with-subsys-dir=/usr/local/bacula/bin/working --with-sqlite=/usr/local/bacula/depkgs/sqlite --with-working-dir=/usr/local/bacula/working --enable-gnome /usr/local/baucla/bacula-1.38.11/src --enable-tray-monitor --enable-conio 3. make 4. make install 5 ./make_sqlite_tables to install sqlite tables 6. didnot make ANY changes to any conf files and took the defaults. I never compiled bacula from source. But it is very unlikely that you can get bacula going without *ANY* changes to the configuration files. At the least, the director, storage daemon and the file daemon need to know about each other, which means you have to specify the hostnames/IP addresses in the configuration files. - Sarath 7. [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./bacula start Starting the Bacula Storage daemon Starting the Bacula File daemon Starting the Bacula Director daemon 8. [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# bacula-tray-monitor I am getting error message:fatal error:bnet.c:859-unable to connect to director deamon on esunxcs:9102 how do I fix this Thanks Jay - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Problem restoring files
Hi, On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, kazabe wrote: Hi! Im starting with bacula, and is great! I have a question. When i do the backup from the clients, the console show all the process backup was done sucefully. When i start a restore task, the console dont report any error, but i cant found any restored file in the directory assigned to that job. How can i find the restored files, if the console show restored process sucefully, but in the directory dont appear any restored file? The directory have correct file permission to the bacula process (exactly same permission related to the default bacula dir). Thanks in advance -- Imagination is more important than knowlege A.E. You haven't provided a lot of details about your particular set up for anybody to give a good answer. But in case you ran into the same silly situation as I did, when I started playing with Bacula, please note that the files are restored, by default, to the specified place *on the respective client* and not the DIR machine. Cheers. - Sarath - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Poll - What operating systems do you run Bacula on?
Hi, Experimental Bacula setup: Bacula 1.36.2 DIR, SD, FD running on an Compaq Alpha server (ES20) with Quantum DLT7000 tape drive OS: Debian GNU/Linux (sarge) FD's running on Intel machines OS: Debian GNU/Linux (sarge) 4 machines - Sarath On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Peter L. Buschman wrote: All: If it isn't too much of an imposition, I'd like to survey the list and ask the question what operating system are you running Bacula on?. I'm interested in which OS distributions, versions and platforms are being deployed as Bacula servers. Mainly, this is to identify the highest-priority configurations for a test environment I am setting-up, but I think it would also be interesting from a broader Bacula adoption perspective to see what the distribution is. I will aggregate all of the responses and post a summary and percentage distribution of the results. If you would like to add your installation to the count but do not want to post openly to the list, please feel free to email me privately. The summarized results will be anonymous as they will only consist of rolled-up statistics. Best regards, Peter Buschman - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Manual ejection of tape confuses bacula
Hi, I am experimenting to see whether bacula would be a good system for me to backup our department's servers. I am running bacula director and storage daemon on a Debian (sarge) machine which has a scsi DLT tape drive attached to it. The version of bacula is 1.36.2. It looks promising, except for one annoying, and in my view, serious problem: The tape drive allows me to eject the tape by pressing an 'unload' button. However, afterwards, when I re-insert the tape, bacula cannot read it, so all the backup data is useless. (Of course, if I have 'unmounted' the tape from within bconsole before ejecting, bacula has no problem accessing the data afterwards.) The question is, is there any way to make bacula accept the tape if the tape was accidientally, 'improperly' ejected? I have browsed the mailing list archive and seen the advice that I could use AlwaysOpen = no and OfflineOnUnmount = yes to guarantee that bacula unmounts the tape after each backup. But the advice comes with the warning that for each backup bacula will be rewinding and re-positioning the tape consuming a lot of time, so leaving the default behaviour is really preferred. If someone knows that this problem does not exist in newer versions of bacula, I could upgrade to the version (1.38.11) in the Debian testing distribution. I would greatly appreciate any help regarding this. Thanks. - Sarath - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Manual ejection of tape confuses bacula
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006, Alan Brown wrote: On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Sarath Jayewardena wrote: How about if I had not started a new backup after re-inserting the tape, yet? You would probably be ok. Will an unmount/mount before running any jobs make bacula accept the tape? Probably. I have verified (at least in the experiments I did) that bacula forgets and forgives if I ran umount/mount after manually ejecting the tape and re-inserting. I tried backing up and restoring both. Immediately after umount/mount, the tape is postitioned at file 0; nevertheless, it looks like bacula moves the tape to the end of data before actually performing the backup. The safest action is to NEVER insert a new tape before doing an unmount/mount operation. I will remember this and take all possible precautions that the tape is never manually ejected without unmounting. Kern, is it possible to insert some sanity checks when starting jobs to ensure the tape is positioned where bacula thinks it should be? If not, I'd suggest rereading the label. As I mentioned above, after umount/mount, the tape is still positioned at file 0, although when a backup is performed it is moved to the correct position. It would be really great if some kind of sanity check can notice what happened and block the tape, or at least give a warning. I have to say I am surprised that a tape drive which was held open by any software wasn't locked. I've never been able to remove a DAT or other individual tape from a drive without using emergency eject procedures. AB If it is going to be helpful, I am using a Quantum DLT7000 connected to an Alpha server (ES20) running Debian (sarge). The drive has two buttons on the front, one for selecting the tape (type) and the other is the 'unload' button. I don't know whether you consider the 'unload' button as an 'emergency' button, but that's the one I use to eject the tape. With no complains, it ejects the tape. Thank you all for responding to my request for help. - Sarath - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Manual ejection of tape confuses bacula
To demonstrate the problem with manual ejection of tape, this is what I did: - start with a fresh database - start bconsole - add a volume to the Default pool - run two backup jobs - quit bconsole - * manually eject tape without unmounting - * re-insert tape - start bconsole - without unmounting/mounting try to run a job (fails) - do an unmount/mount - try to run a job (fails) The transcript of the session is attached to the end of this mail. Actually, I tried out a couple of variations. In some cases, bacula seemed to be able to run jobs after re-inserting the tape. It would even list them as completed jobs. But then, when I tried to restore, it had problems accessing the tape. These are the dangers I am afraid of. Are there any rescue methods in such cases? Again thank you very much for the help. - Sarath On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Kern Sibbald wrote: On Thursday 21 September 2006 19:08, Sarath Jayewardena wrote: Hi, I am experimenting to see whether bacula would be a good system for me to backup our department's servers. I am running bacula director and storage daemon on a Debian (sarge) machine which has a scsi DLT tape drive attached to it. The version of bacula is 1.36.2. It looks promising, except for one annoying, and in my view, serious problem: The tape drive allows me to eject the tape by pressing an 'unload' button. However, afterwards, when I re-insert the tape, bacula cannot read it, so all the backup data is useless. (Of course, if I have 'unmounted' the tape from within bconsole before ejecting, bacula has no problem accessing the data afterwards.) The question is, is there any way to make bacula accept the tape if the tape was accidientally, 'improperly' ejected? As long as Bacula is not writing on the tape at the moment you ejected the tape, the data is fine and can be read by Bacula. However, when you eject a tape without unmounting the storage device first, Bacula will not know or except that you have changed the tape until you unmount and re-mount the storage device. I have browsed the mailing list archive and seen the advice that I could use AlwaysOpen = no and OfflineOnUnmount = yes to guarantee that bacula unmounts the tape after each backup. But the advice comes with the warning that for each backup bacula will be rewinding and re-positioning the tape consuming a lot of time, so leaving the default behaviour is really preferred. If someone knows that this problem does not exist in newer versions of bacula, I could upgrade to the version (1.38.11) in the Debian testing distribution. I would greatly appreciate any help regarding this. Thanks. - Sarath - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users === Transcript of the session follows: Script started on Fri Sep 22 10:48:09 2006 csci485b:~# bconsole Connecting to Director csci485b:9101 1000 OK: csci485b-dir Version: 1.36.2 (28 February 2005) Enter a period to cancel a command. *stat dir Using default Catalog name=MyCatalog DB=bacula csci485b-dir Version: 1.36.2 (28 February 2005) alpha-unknown-linux-gnu debian 3.1 Daemon started 22-Sep-06 10:48, 0 Jobs run since started. Scheduled Jobs: Level Type Pri Scheduled Name Volume === IncrementalBackup10 23-Sep-06 01:05CSCI485bFiles *unknown* IncrementalBackup10 23-Sep-06 01:05CSCI251Files *unknown* IncrementalBackup10 23-Sep-06 01:05CSCIfaiFiles *unknown* Full Backup11 23-Sep-06 01:10BackupCatalog *unknown* Running Jobs: No Jobs running. No Terminated Jobs. *stat sto Automatically selected Storage: DLTDrive Connecting to Storage daemon DLTDrive at csci485b:9103 csci485b-sd Version: 1.36.2 (28 February 2005) alpha-unknown-linux-gnu debian 3.1 Daemon started 22-Sep-06 10:48, 0 Jobs run since started. Running Jobs: No Jobs running. No Terminated Jobs. Device status: Device /dev/nst0 is mounted with Volume NetBackupVol0001 Total Bytes Read=0 Blocks Read=0 Bytes/block=0 Positioned at File=0 Block=0 *list media Pool: Default No results to list. *add You probably don't want to be using this command since it creates database records without labeling the Volumes. You probably want to use the label command. Automatically
Re: [Bacula-users] Manual ejection of tape confuses bacula
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Kern Sibbald wrote: Unfortunately, you are out of luck. You did the unmount/mount *after* you ejected the tape, reloaded it in the drive, and started another job, which started writing on the *beginning* of the tape rather than appending to it. The simplest solution is to stop and restart the SD (probably not necessary), delete the Volume from the catalog, relabel it, and re-run all the jobs that were backed up to that Volume. Thank you for the straigt answer. So, in other words, all the data on the tape is useless, right? Assuming I had multiple backups over several days (or weeks), they are all gone. How about if I had not started a new backup after re-inserting the tape, yet? Will an unmount/mount before running any jobs make bacula accept the tape? Or at least, can I use any other utility to access the data? - Sarath On Friday 22 September 2006 21:00, Sarath Jayewardena wrote: To demonstrate the problem with manual ejection of tape, this is what I did: - start with a fresh database - start bconsole - add a volume to the Default pool - run two backup jobs - quit bconsole - * manually eject tape without unmounting - * re-insert tape - start bconsole - without unmounting/mounting try to run a job (fails) - do an unmount/mount - try to run a job (fails) The transcript of the session is attached to the end of this mail. Actually, I tried out a couple of variations. In some cases, bacula seemed to be able to run jobs after re-inserting the tape. It would even list them as completed jobs. But then, when I tried to restore, it had problems accessing the tape. These are the dangers I am afraid of. Are there any rescue methods in such cases? Again thank you very much for the help. - Sarath On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Kern Sibbald wrote: On Thursday 21 September 2006 19:08, Sarath Jayewardena wrote: Hi, I am experimenting to see whether bacula would be a good system for me to backup our department's servers. I am running bacula director and storage daemon on a Debian (sarge) machine which has a scsi DLT tape drive attached to it. The version of bacula is 1.36.2. It looks promising, except for one annoying, and in my view, serious problem: The tape drive allows me to eject the tape by pressing an 'unload' button. However, afterwards, when I re-insert the tape, bacula cannot read it, so all the backup data is useless. (Of course, if I have 'unmounted' the tape from within bconsole before ejecting, bacula has no problem accessing the data afterwards.) The question is, is there any way to make bacula accept the tape if the tape was accidientally, 'improperly' ejected? As long as Bacula is not writing on the tape at the moment you ejected the tape, the data is fine and can be read by Bacula. However, when you eject a tape without unmounting the storage device first, Bacula will not know or except that you have changed the tape until you unmount and re-mount the storage device. I have browsed the mailing list archive and seen the advice that I could use AlwaysOpen = no and OfflineOnUnmount = yes to guarantee that bacula unmounts the tape after each backup. But the advice comes with the warning that for each backup bacula will be rewinding and re-positioning the tape consuming a lot of time, so leaving the default behaviour is really preferred. If someone knows that this problem does not exist in newer versions of bacula, I could upgrade to the version (1.38.11) in the Debian testing distribution. I would greatly appreciate any help regarding this. Thanks. - Sarath - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users === Transcript of the session follows: Script started on Fri Sep 22 10:48:09 2006 csci485b:~# bconsole Connecting to Director csci485b:9101 1000 OK: csci485b-dir Version: 1.36.2 (28 February 2005) Enter a period to cancel a command. *stat dir Using default Catalog name=MyCatalog DB=bacula csci485b-dir Version: 1.36.2 (28 February 2005) alpha-unknown-linux-gnu debian 3.1 Daemon started 22-Sep-06 10:48, 0 Jobs run since started. Scheduled Jobs: Level Type Pri Scheduled Name
Re: [Bacula-users] Manual ejection of tape confuses bacula
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Dan Langille wrote: On 21 Sep 2006 at 10:08, Sarath Jayewardena wrote: Hi, I am experimenting to see whether bacula would be a good system for me to backup our department's servers. I am running bacula director and storage daemon on a Debian (sarge) machine which has a scsi DLT tape drive attached to it. The version of bacula is 1.36.2. It looks promising, except for one annoying, and in my view, serious problem: The tape drive allows me to eject the tape by pressing an 'unload' button. However, afterwards, when I re-insert the tape, bacula cannot read it, so all the backup data is useless. (Of course, if I have 'unmounted' the tape from within bconsole before ejecting, bacula has no problem accessing the data afterwards.) The question is, is there any way to make bacula accept the tape if the tape was accidientally, 'improperly' ejected? I have browsed the mailing list archive and seen the advice that I could use AlwaysOpen = no and OfflineOnUnmount = yes to guarantee that bacula unmounts the tape after each backup. But the advice comes with the warning that for each backup bacula will be rewinding and re-positioning the tape consuming a lot of time, so leaving the default behaviour is really preferred. If someone knows that this problem does not exist in newer versions of bacula, I could upgrade to the version (1.38.11) in the Debian testing distribution. My tape drive does not allow me to eject the tape if Bacula has the device. I think the key directive from my SD config is: Offline on Unmount = yes I do not specify AlwaysOpen, but that defaults to Yes. What is wrong with unmounting withing bconsole before ejecting the tape? There is really nothing wrong with unmounting within bconsole. My problem arises when you *accidentally* eject the tape without unmounting. In my environment, this can easily happen, because we have some tape drives where we just eject the old tape and insert a new one for the nightly backup (not using bacula). I haven't tried the OfflineOnUnmount = yes yet. But my understanding is that it would automatically unmount the tape after the backup (thus causing it to to the time-consuming rewinding and re-positioning). - Sarath - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Manual ejection of tape confuses bacula
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Michael Brennen wrote: On Thursday 21 September 2006 12:08 pm, Sarath Jayewardena wrote: I am experimenting to see whether bacula would be a good system for me to backup our department's servers. I am running bacula director and storage daemon on a Debian (sarge) machine which has a scsi DLT tape drive attached to it. The version of bacula is 1.36.2. It looks promising, except for one annoying, and in my view, serious problem: As a perhaps poor analogy, think of a bacula mounted medium as a mounted filesystem. You want to manually unmount a filesystem before taking it down. It isn't that the mount isn't recoverable if it gets out of sync, but things work more cleanly that way. From what I've seen over the past few weeks, bacula is an excellent choice for multi-system backup. It does take some time to learn to admin it, but that is part of why it is a good choice. The tape drive allows me to eject the tape by pressing an 'unload' button. However, afterwards, when I re-insert the tape, bacula cannot read it, so all the backup data is useless. (Of course, if I have 'unmounted' the tape from within bconsole before ejecting, bacula has no problem accessing the data afterwards.) The question is, is there any way to make bacula accept the tape if the tape was accidientally, 'improperly' ejected? In your described case it might well be as simple as mounting the drive with bconsole if you manually eject/reinsert it. Thank you all you nice people offering help. This is really wonderfull. Now Michael, I also agree with your analogy with a mounted filesystem. But the problem is that even if I mounted with bconsole afterwards, it is still blocked. Bacula is waiting for appendable media to do next backups. Kern has emphasized to me that in the 1.39.+ releases it will be more important than ever to only make media changes with bconsole. With an autochanger that (nominally) locks closed, I find it easy enough to use bconsole to manage media in the drives; that way I can manage it all running gconsole from my linux desktop. -- -- Michael I am just wondering, whether there shouldn't be a way to fix the problem if something like the above happens. - Sarath - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
