Re: [Bacula-users] BAT Installation

[computermgr]

Hi Heitor,

Thanks for your response and your good advice.

 

You are right that backups stored on a production machine aren’t adequate. Our 
intention is to store backups on a dedicate physical drive on the server and 
immediately copy them on. Some jobs will be copied to the cloud and others to 
an external drive that will be rotated offsite monthly. The latter is for high 
volume data with infrequent changes that can readily be recovered from the 
original source, so the cost for cloud storage can’t be justified.

 

We’ve already done a lot to make Apache and PHP secure so we may have a look at 
the options you suggested.

 

In the meantime we’ll probably start with any GUI and see how we go. It’s 
looking positive so far.

 

Regards

 

Howard Viccars

 

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Family History ACT
email:  <mailto:computer...@familyhistoryact.org.au> 
computer...@familyhistoryact.org.au
url: familyhistoryact.org.au

 

From: Heitor Faria  
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2024 12:16 AM
To: computer...@familyhistoryact.org.au
Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] BAT Installation

 

Hello Howard,

"On Feb 3, 2024, at 7:08 AM, computer...@familyhistoryact.org.au 
<mailto:computer...@familyhistoryact.org.au>  wrote:

Hi,Thanks for all the responses, an interesting discussion.Bacularis would 
probably be a good solution for us except for the security concern. Allowing 
Apache access to the backup directory would mean all web apps would have access 
and that doesn't seem like a good idea on a multi-purpose server. We're not big 
enough to need, or afford, a dedicated backup server.Does anyone have a 
suggestion?I understand that many people think the command line is best, but we 
have limited skills and the GUI helps"

First of all, if you are storing backups in the same production data machine 
this is not backup. IMHO you should try to build an integrated backup appliance 
with Bacula with a small or even used servers, to process and store tha backup, 
even if having to use SATA disks. NVMe is also surprisingly cheap nowadays. It 
is probably the most inexpensive, usual and relatively safer solution. 

Personally, I designed with my team and I'm selling many backup Appliances with 
Bacula Enterprise and our own operating system (BaculaOS), with more than 30 
security enhancements, including IDS and CRC.

AFAIK Apache is present in more than 90% of the most accessed Internet 
websites. It is pretty safe. Many proprietary applications use Apache for 
critical systems. Also, Bacularis does not access Bacula volumes directly 
(which is the most critical data). Bacularis only access catalog via API, wich 
is a security abstraction layer, and confs via bjson modules. Those are also 
very safe IMHO.

If you are concerned with Apache security you can always use allow/deny lists, 
firewall rules and certificates to improve the security, among other techniques.

Rgds.

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On Feb 3, 2024, at 7:08 AM, computer...@familyhistoryact.org.au 
<mailto:computer...@familyhistoryact.org.au>  wrote:

Hi,
Thanks for all the responses, an interesting discussion.

Bacularis would probably be a good solution for us except for the security 
concern. Allowing Apache access to the backup directory would mean all web apps 
would have access and that doesn't seem like a good  idea on a multi-purpose 
server. We're not big enough to need, or afford, a dedicated backup server.

Does anyone have a suggestion?

I understand that many people think the command line is best, but we have 
limited skills and the GUI helps with that.

Regards

Howard Viccars

Computer Manager
Family History ACT
email: computer...@familyhistoryact.org.au 
<mailto:computer...@familyhistoryact.org.au> 
url: familyhistoryact.org.au <http://familyhistoryact.org.au> 

-Original Message-
From: Bill Arlofski via Bacula-users mailto:bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > 
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 4:50 AM
To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
<mailto:bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net> 
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] BAT Installation

On 2/2/24 09:35, Phil Stracchino wrote:


 BAT still does everything I want a Bacula console to do.  The things 
 that it does NOT do, like configuration, I don't WANT it to; I want to 
 do those myself, by hand, using a proper editor.


Hi Phil!

You sound like one of the customers of mine I mentioned. :)



 To be truthful, I detest the "Everything is a web page/application"
 model.


I never liked this either.



 I will note that there are a few known bugs in BAT, notably that some 
 purge operations can produce *multiple* simultaneous pop-up 
 confirmation alerts that can be confusing.


My experience with BAT over the many years I have been using Bacula has been... 
let's just say "poor", with BAT randomly just hanging for no apparent reason, 
requiring me to kill and restart it s

Re: [Bacula-users] BAT Installation

[Heitor Faria]

Morning Cupcake (Bill),
"So, any volunteers? :)"
I not only volunteer, but I would be willing to prospect and sponsor a Brazilian QT developer to work with this project, but we need to know how to start.
I believe Git Lab is now the CBacula current developer platform: https://gitlab.bacula.org/bacula-community-edition/bacula-community
So it is just a matter of creating a specialized team. Personally I prefer WhatsApp  or Telegram groups for faster communication. Emails are for old people, and I just turned 40. =P
One key aspect for me is the lack of documentation on Windows packages cross-compiling, which is (unfortunately) the most common BAT use case.
Rgds.
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On Feb 2, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Bill Arlofski  wrote:
On 2/2/24 08:53, Heitor Faria wrote: "*Having said that, years ago, I had customers that LOVE LOVE LOVED BAT, and would not move away from it even at my urging, so there is one reason, I guess. :)"  Frankly, I never understood this community's urge to regularly create "one more Bacula GUI", instead of just fixing and  improve the state-of-art. IMHO bacula.org  should adopt and sponsor BAT and Bacularis/Baculum GUIs development, get people together,  integrate bacula-web features and organize this mess.  Rgds.Hello Heitor!I can't say I disagree with this idea.Imagine a fully-functional BAT? Able to do configuration too? All the bugs fixed?So, any volunteers?  :)Best regards,Bill___
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Re: [Bacula-users] BAT Installation

[Heitor Faria]

Hello Howard,
"On Feb 3, 2024, at 7:08 AM, computer...@familyhistoryact.org.au wrote:
Hi,Thanks for all the responses, an interesting discussion.Bacularis would probably be a good solution for us except for the security concern. Allowing Apache access to the backup directory would mean all web apps would have access and that doesn't seem like a good idea on a multi-purpose server. We're not big enough to need, or afford, a dedicated backup server.Does anyone have a suggestion?I understand that many people think the command line is best, but we have limited skills and the GUI helps"
First of all, if you are storing backups in the same production data machine this is not backup. IMHO you should try to build an integrated backup appliance with Bacula with a small or even used servers, to process and store tha backup, even if having to use SATA disks. NVMe is also surprisingly cheap nowadays. It is probably the most inexpensive, usual and relatively safer solution. 
Personally, I designed with my team and I'm selling many backup Appliances with Bacula Enterprise and our own operating system (BaculaOS), with more than 30 security enhancements, including IDS and CRC.
AFAIK Apache is present in more than 90% of the most accessed Internet websites. It is pretty safe. Many proprietary applications use Apache for critical systems. Also, Bacularis does not access Bacula volumes directly (which is the most critical data). Bacularis only access catalog via API, wich is a security abstraction layer, and confs via bjson modules. Those are also very safe IMHO.
If you are concerned with Apache security you can always use allow/deny lists, firewall rules and certificates to improve the security, among other techniques.
Rgds.
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On Feb 3, 2024, at 7:08 AM, computer...@familyhistoryact.org.au wrote:
Hi,Thanks for all the responses, an interesting discussion.Bacularis would probably be a good solution for us except for the security concern. Allowing Apache access to the backup directory would mean all web apps would have access and that doesn't seem like a good  idea on a multi-purpose server. We're not big enough to need, or afford, a dedicated backup server.Does anyone have a suggestion?I understand that many people think the command line is best, but we have limited skills and the GUI helps with that.RegardsHoward ViccarsComputer ManagerFamily History ACTemail: computer...@familyhistoryact.org.auurl: familyhistoryact.org.au-Original Message-From: Bill Arlofski via Bacula-users  Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 4:50 AMTo: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: Re: [Bacula-users] BAT InstallationOn 2/2/24 09:35, Phil Stracchino wrote: BAT still does everything I want a Bacula console to do.  The things  that it does NOT do, like configuration, I don't WANT it to; I want to  do those myself, by hand, using a proper editor.Hi Phil!You sound like one of the customers of mine I mentioned. :) To be truthful, I detest the "Everything is a web page/application" model.I never liked this either. I will note that there are a few known bugs in BAT, notably that some  purge operations can produce *multiple* simultaneous pop-up  confirmation alerts that can be confusing.My experience with BAT over the many years I have been using Bacula has been... let's just say "poor", with BAT randomly just hanging for no apparent reason, requiring me to kill and restart it so often I just gave up.Of course this is my experience, on several platforms, over several versions in several of my customers' environments.I do everything from the command line and avoid Web GUIs at all costs - which does not say anything about the quality nor capabilities of them, just more about my abhorrence to Web GUIs in general.   :)Best regards,Bill--Bill Arlofskiw...@protonmail.comBacula-users mailing listBacula-users@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users___
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Re: [Bacula-users] BAT Installation

[computermgr]

Hi,
Thanks for all the responses, an interesting discussion.

Bacularis would probably be a good solution for us except for the security 
concern. Allowing Apache access to the backup directory would mean all web apps 
would have access and that doesn't seem like a good  idea on a multi-purpose 
server. We're not big enough to need, or afford, a dedicated backup server.

Does anyone have a suggestion?

I understand that many people think the command line is best, but we have 
limited skills and the GUI helps with that.

Regards

Howard Viccars

Computer Manager
Family History ACT
email: computer...@familyhistoryact.org.au
url: familyhistoryact.org.au

-Original Message-
From: Bill Arlofski via Bacula-users  
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 4:50 AM
To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] BAT Installation

On 2/2/24 09:35, Phil Stracchino wrote:
>
> BAT still does everything I want a Bacula console to do.  The things 
> that it does NOT do, like configuration, I don't WANT it to; I want to 
> do those myself, by hand, using a proper editor.

Hi Phil!

You sound like one of the customers of mine I mentioned. :)


> To be truthful, I detest the "Everything is a web page/application"
> model.

I never liked this either.


> I will note that there are a few known bugs in BAT, notably that some 
> purge operations can produce *multiple* simultaneous pop-up 
> confirmation alerts that can be confusing.

My experience with BAT over the many years I have been using Bacula has been... 
let's just say "poor", with BAT randomly just hanging for no apparent reason, 
requiring me to kill and restart it so often I just gave up.

Of course this is my experience, on several platforms, over several versions in 
several of my customers' environments.

I do everything from the command l
ine and avoid Web GUIs at all costs - which does not say anything about the 
quality nor 
capabilities of them, just more about my abhorrence to Web GUIs in general.   :)


Best regards,
Bill

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Re: [Bacula-users] BAT Installation

[Bill Arlofski via Bacula-users]

On 2/2/24 09:35, Phil Stracchino wrote:


BAT still does everything I want a Bacula console to do.  The things
that it does NOT do, like configuration, I don't WANT it to; I want to
do those myself, by hand, using a proper editor.


Hi Phil!

You sound like one of the customers of mine I mentioned. :)



To be truthful, I detest the "Everything is a web page/application"
model.


I never liked this either.



I will note that there are a few known bugs in BAT, notably that some
purge operations can produce *multiple* simultaneous pop-up confirmation
alerts that can be confusing.


My experience with BAT over the many years I have been using Bacula has been... let's just say "poor", with BAT randomly just 
hanging for no apparent reason, requiring me to kill and restart it so often I just gave up.


Of course this is my experience, on several platforms, over several versions in 
several of my customers' environments.

I do everything from the command l
ine and avoid Web GUIs at all costs - which does not say anything about the quality nor 
capabilities of them, just more about my abhorrence to Web GUIs in general.   :)



Best regards,
Bill

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Re: [Bacula-users] BAT Installation

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On 2/2/24 08:53, Heitor Faria wrote:

"*Having said that, years ago, I had customers that LOVE LOVE LOVED BAT, and 
would not move away from it even at my urging, so
there is one reason, I guess. :)"

Frankly, I never understood this community's urge to regularly create "one more Bacula GUI", instead of just fixing and 
improve the state-of-art.
IMHO bacula.org  should adopt and sponsor BAT and Bacularis/Baculum GUIs development, get people together, 
integrate bacula-web features and organize this mess.


Rgds.



Hello Heitor!


I can't say I disagree with this idea.

Imagine a fully-functional BAT? Able to do configuration too? All the bugs 
fixed?


So, any volunteers?  :)


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Re: [Bacula-users] BAT Installation

[Davide F. via Bacula-users]

Hi,

Completely agree regarding Baculum and Bacularis, which are really great
projects giving “almost” full controls on Bacula.

Really sad to know BAT isn’t maintained anymore.

Regarding last Heitor’s comment, sorry but I somehow disagree, and the
reason is not because I’m maintaining Bacula-Web project since 2010.

Simple reason, leave community users the freedom to choose whatever tool
they want to use with Bacula. Text based, web based, etc. It doesn’t
matter, it’s each community user choice in the end.
Simple principle of GNU and open source.

Btw, I have a list of non official GUI tool for Bacula, and some are still
maintained. Including webacula fork which is available on GitHub ;)

Best,

Davide

On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 at 16:54 Heitor Faria  wrote:

> "*Having said that, years ago, I had customers that LOVE LOVE LOVED BAT,
> and would not move away from it even at my urging, so
> there is one reason, I guess. :)"
>
> Frankly, I never understood this community's urge to regularly create "one
> more Bacula GUI", instead of just fixing and improve the state-of-art.
> IMHO bacula.org should adopt and sponsor BAT and Bacularis/Baculum GUIs
> development, get people together, integrate bacula-web features and
> organize this mess.
>
> Rgds.
>
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> On Feb 2, 2024, at 10:32 AM, Bill Arlofski via Bacula-users <
> bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>
>> On 2/2/24 05:48, Rob Gerber wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>  As far as I know, BAT is available only with enterprise bacula.
>>>
>>
>> Hello Rob, (and Howard Viccars),
>>
>> BAT (Bacula Administration Tool) is a long-unmaintained QT graphical 
>> interface to 'manage' Bacula and is available in Community.
>>
>> I say 'manage' because BAT is more like BMT (Bacula Management Tool) since 
>> you cannot configure anything using BAT, you can
>> only start, stop, monitor jobs and view information about your system 
>> (Clients, Jobs, Pools, Media, etc) just like with
>> bconsole. :)
>>
>>
>>  I believe your choices with regard to bacula community are baculum, 
>> bacularis, and bacula-web.
>>>
>>>  Bacularis is a friendly fork of baculum, and is the better maintained 
>>> package. Developer is on this list.
>>>
>>>  Bacula-web - I have not tested it, but I hear it provides good reporting, 
>>> but no active control. Developer is on this list.
>>>
>>
>> All good information.
>>
>> And I would strongly urge to move away from BAT in favor of Bacularis (for 
>> example).
>>
>>
>> Bacularis, unlike BAT allows you to configure every aspect of your Bacula 
>> environment, and as Rob mentioned, Marcin Haba, a
>> Bacula Systems employee maintains it as an open-source and free tool, and he 
>> is quite active and helpful on this list. :)
>>
>> Bottom line: Abandon BAT. It has not received any love in a very long time, 
>> and quite frankly I am sure it will not. It did
>> what it was designed to do, but now that we have some very powerful web gui 
>> administration tools, there is no reason not to
>> abandon it.* (Just my two cents)
>>
>> *Having said that, years ago, I had customers that LOVE LOVE LOVED BAT, and 
>> would not move away from it even at my urging, so
>> there is one reason, I guess. :)
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Bill
>>
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Re: [Bacula-users] BAT Installation

[Phil Stracchino]

On 2/2/24 10:25, Bill Arlofski via Bacula-users wrote:


All good information.

And I would strongly urge to move away from BAT in favor of Bacularis (for 
example).


Bacularis, unlike BAT allows you to configure every aspect of your Bacula 
environment, and as Rob mentioned, Marcin Haba, a
Bacula Systems employee maintains it as an open-source and free tool, and he is 
quite active and helpful on this list. :)

Bottom line: Abandon BAT. It has not received any love in a very long time, and 
quite frankly I am sure it will not. It did
what it was designed to do, but now that we have some very powerful web gui 
administration tools, there is no reason not to
abandon it.* (Just my two cents)

*Having said that, years ago, I had customers that LOVE LOVE LOVED BAT, and 
would not move away from it even at my urging, so
there is one reason, I guess. :)



BAT still does everything I want a Bacula console to do.  The things 
that it does NOT do, like configuration, I don't WANT it to; I want to 
do those myself, by hand, using a proper editor.


To be truthful, I detest the "Everything is a web page/application" 
model.  I have not, to be fair, tried either Baculum or Bacularis, but 
my general experience is that web-based applications tend to be 
uniformly awful.  Especially web-based admin interfaces.
For example, I briefly tried to deploy a QNAP NAS that used a web admin 
interface, and there were basic security functions that you simply 
*COULD NOT DO* via the admin GUI.  It was not merely hidden, it was 
*impossible*.  Webmin, cpanel, ... uniformly ghastly.


Your mileage may of course vary.

I will note that there are a few known bugs in BAT, notably that some 
purge operations can produce *multiple* simultaneous pop-up confirmation 
alerts that can be confusing.




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Re: [Bacula-users] BAT Installation

[Phil Stracchino]

On 2/2/24 10:53, Heitor Faria wrote:
Frankly, I never understood this community's urge to regularly create 
"one more Bacula GUI", instead of just fixing and improve the state-of-art.
IMHO bacula.org  should adopt and sponsor BAT and 
Bacularis/Baculum GUIs development, get people together, integrate 
bacula-web features and organize this mess.


Rgds.



I frankly agree with Heitor here.  BAT Just Works, isn't subject to 
browser compatibility issues, and doesn't suffer any of the broken 
interface behaviors that come as part and parcel of web applications. 
It does have a few minor bugs that should be fixed, but even those it 
has do not stop it from working.


This isn't to say that a web interface for Bacula *monitoring* is 
necessarily a bad idea.



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Re: [Bacula-users] BAT Installation

[Heitor Faria]

"*Having said that, years ago, I had customers that LOVE LOVE LOVED BAT, and would not move away from it even at my urging, so 
there is one reason, I guess. :)"
Frankly, I never understood this community's urge to regularly create "one more Bacula GUI", instead of just fixing and improve the state-of-art.
IMHO bacula.org should adopt and sponsor BAT and Bacularis/Baculum GUIs development, get people together, integrate bacula-web features and organize this mess.
Rgds.
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On Feb 2, 2024, at 10:32 AM, Bill Arlofski via Bacula-users  wrote:
On 2/2/24 05:48, Rob Gerber wrote: As far as I know, BAT is available only with enterprise bacula.Hello Rob, (and Howard Viccars),BAT (Bacula Administration Tool) is a long-unmaintained QT graphical interface to 'manage' Bacula and is available in Community.I say 'manage' because BAT is more like BMT (Bacula Management Tool) since you cannot configure anything using BAT, you can only start, stop, monitor jobs and view information about your system (Clients, Jobs, Pools, Media, etc) just like with bconsole. :) I believe your choices with regard to bacula community are baculum, bacularis, and bacula-web.  Bacularis is a friendly fork of baculum, and is the better maintained package. Developer is on this list.  Bacula-web - I have not tested it, but I hear it provides good reporting, but no active control. Developer is on this list.All good information.And I would strongly urge to move away from BAT in favor of Bacularis (for example).Bacularis, unlike BAT allows you to configure every aspect of your Bacula environment, and as Rob mentioned, Marcin Haba, a Bacula Systems employee maintains it as an open-source and free tool, and he is quite active and helpful on this list. :)Bottom line: Abandon BAT. It has not received any love in a very long time, and quite frankly I am sure it will not. It did what it was designed to do, but now that we have some very powerful web gui administration tools, there is no reason not to abandon it.* (Just my two cents)*Having said that, years ago, I had customers that LOVE LOVE LOVED BAT, and would not move away from it even at my urging, so there is one reason, I guess. :)Best regards,Bill___
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Re: [Bacula-users] BAT Installation

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On 2/2/24 05:48, Rob Gerber wrote:
>

As far as I know, BAT is available only with enterprise bacula.


Hello Rob, (and Howard Viccars),

BAT (Bacula Administration Tool) is a long-unmaintained QT graphical interface 
to 'manage' Bacula and is available in Community.

I say 'manage' because BAT is more like BMT (Bacula Management Tool) since you cannot configure anything using BAT, you can 
only start, stop, monitor jobs and view information about your system (Clients, Jobs, Pools, Media, etc) just like with 
bconsole. :)




I believe your choices with regard to bacula community are baculum, bacularis, 
and bacula-web.

Bacularis is a friendly fork of baculum, and is the better maintained package. 
Developer is on this list.

Bacula-web - I have not tested it, but I hear it provides good reporting, but 
no active control. Developer is on this list.


All good information.

And I would strongly urge to move away from BAT in favor of Bacularis (for 
example).


Bacularis, unlike BAT allows you to configure every aspect of your Bacula environment, and as Rob mentioned, Marcin Haba, a 
Bacula Systems employee maintains it as an open-source and free tool, and he is quite active and helpful on this list. :)


Bottom line: Abandon BAT. It has not received any love in a very long time, and quite frankly I am sure it will not. It did 
what it was designed to do, but now that we have some very powerful web gui administration tools, there is no reason not to 
abandon it.* (Just my two cents)


*Having said that, years ago, I had customers that LOVE LOVE LOVED BAT, and would not move away from it even at my urging, so 
there is one reason, I guess. :)



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Re: [Bacula-users] BAT Installation

[Rob Gerber]

As far as I know, BAT is available only with enterprise bacula.

I believe your choices with regard to bacula community are baculum,
bacularis, and bacula-web.

Bacularis is a friendly fork of baculum, and is the better maintained
package. Developer is on this list.

Bacula-web - I have not tested it, but I hear it provides good reporting,
but no active control. Developer is on this list.

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On Fri, Feb 2, 2024, 1:49 AM  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am working off the attached set of instructions for installing Bacula.
> This was obtained from this :
> https://www.bacula.org/packages/x/debs/13.0.3/dists/jammy/main/binary-amd64/INSTALL
> where x was the code sent to me.
>
>
>
> According to this document I should be able to install Bacula
> Administration Tool (BAT) by entering: apt-get install bacula-bat. This
> doesn’t work.
>
>
>
> This is for a server being used for development. It is running Ubuntu
> 22.04.3 LTS on a Dell Optiplex 990 with MySQL, Apache and PHP. Gnome is
> installed.
>
>
>
> The Bacula director version is: Version 13.0.3 (02 May 2023)
> x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-bacula-eneterprise unbuntu 22.04
>
>
>
> although I thought I was running the free community version. The catalog
> database server is MySQL.
>
>
>
> Ubuntu and Bacula are up to date.
>
>
>
> The entry for Bacula in the apt source list is: deb
> https://www.bacula.org/packages/X/debs/13.0.3 jammy main. This is
> taken from the document.
>
>
>
> I had installed Bacularis, but it has been removed. The reason I removed
> it is that I didn’t want to give Apache/PHP access to the backup directory.
>
>
>
> Is BAT still available with the community version and, if so, how do I get
> it installed? I can provide more configuration details if necessary.
>
>
>
> I’d appreciate any help you can provide.
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[Bacula-users] BAT Installation

[computermgr]

Hi,

I am working off the attached set of instructions for installing Bacula.
This was obtained from this :
https://www.bacula.org/packages/x/debs/13.0.3/dists/jammy/main/b
inary-amd64/INSTALL where x was the code sent to me.

 

According to this document I should be able to install Bacula Administration
Tool (BAT) by entering: apt-get install bacula-bat. This doesn't work.

 

This is for a server being used for development. It is running Ubuntu
22.04.3 LTS on a Dell Optiplex 990 with MySQL, Apache and PHP. Gnome is
installed.

 

The Bacula director version is: Version 13.0.3 (02 May 2023)
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-bacula-eneterprise unbuntu 22.04

 

although I thought I was running the free community version. The catalog
database server is MySQL.

 

Ubuntu and Bacula are up to date.

 

The entry for Bacula in the apt source list is: deb
https://www.bacula.org/packages/X/debs/13.0.3 jammy main. This is taken
from the document.

 

I had installed Bacularis, but it has been removed. The reason I removed it
is that I didn't want to give Apache/PHP access to the backup directory.

 

Is BAT still available with the community version and, if so, how do I get
it installed? I can provide more configuration details if necessary.

 

I'd appreciate any help you can provide.

 

Regards

 

Howard Viccars

 

Computer Manager
Family History ACT
email:  
computer...@familyhistoryact.org.au
url: familyhistoryact.org.au

 


 Bacula Community Debian/Ubuntu binary installation

In general, you should get the binary packages from your
download area on www.bacula.org.  You can either download
what you need or setup a repository pointing to the download
area that will allow you to use your installer program 
such as apt to ensure that all the dependencies a met.

Installing using apt:
-

In order to use the Bacula Systems apt repository, you need to install
the HTTPS backend for APT.

  apt-get install apt-transport-https

Then, you need to download and install the gpg signature that validates packages

  wget 
https://bacula.org/downloads/Bacula-4096-Distribution-Verification-key.asc
  apt-key add Bacula-4096-Distribution-Verification-key.asc

Add to your /etc/apt/sources.list file the following entries:

  # Bacula
  deb https://www.bacula.org/packages/X/debs/13.0.3 distro main

Where distro is a platform like 
 focal, buster, bionic, bullseye, jammy, ...

ex:

  # Bacula
  deb https://www.bacula.org/packages/X/debs/13.0.3 jammy main

If you have any warning on Ubuntu Precise about i386 entries missing, you
can ignore them or use the following configuration in the sources.list file:

  deb [arch=amd64] https://www.bacula.org/packages/X/debs/13.0.3 precise 
main


Also please ensure that you adapt the Bacula version and the architecture
(platform) to correspond to your system.

  debian 11|  bullseye
  debian 10|  buster
  debian 9 |  stretch
  ubuntu 22.04 |  jammy
  ubuntu 20.04 |  focal
  ubuntu 18.04 |  bionic
  ubuntu 16.04 |  xenial

Once done, you can update the repository list with the following command.

  apt-get update

If you have not previously install the database server, do
so with:

  apt-get install dbconfig-common postgresql

Then install the Bacula with PostgreSQL driver with:

  apt-get install bacula-postgresql

Or if you want to use the MySQL catalog:

  apt-get install dbconfig-common mysql-server
  apt-get install bacula-mysql

If you want to install Bat, you will also want to do:

apt-get install bacula-bat


Installing by hand:
---
Assuming you will download the binaries to your machine,
first, transfer the binary packages you need to your
Debian or Ubuntu machine. For example:

bacula-client_13.0.3-1_amd64.deb
bacula-common_13.0.3-1_amd64.deb
bacula-console-qt_13.0.3-1_amd64.deb
bacula-console_13.0.3-1_amd64.deb
and either
bacula-mysql_13.0.3-1_amd64.deb
or
bacula-postgresql_13.0.3-1_amd64.deb

In addition, if you have any plugins, please download
the debs for them.

To install generally if you have not previously installed
a Bacula Community binary, you will want to save your old
configuration files somewhere and then remove the old packages
with:

dpkg -r  ...

If you have previously used a Bacula Community binary, you 
do not need to remove the packages, you can simply install or
upgrade the new ones with:

dpkg -i bacula-client_13.0.3-1_amd64.deb \
  bacula-common_13.0.3-1_amd64.deb   \
  bacula-console_13.0.3-1_amd64.deb  \
  bacula-postgresql_13.0.3-1_amd64.deb


That is you can put them all on one line or multiple lines if terminated
with \ (and no space after the \).

If some dependencies are missing, you can install them automatically using:

  apt-get -f install___
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