Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Slow NFS (HPE StoreOnce 3620 VTL and NFS)

2021-11-29 Thread Jose Alberto
Thanks.

But at the moment we have the community version. With the luck that in the
work team we support ourselves with an Oracle DBA.

I understand about the Plugins, but if you do not have Technical personnel
for the service, it is like having a weapon without bullets. Not only with
Bacula Enterprise, with any Backup Tool. HP, IBM, etc.

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:04 AM Radosław Korzeniewski <
rados...@korzeniewski.net> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> pt., 26 lis 2021 o 21:32 Phil Stracchino 
> napisał(a):
>
>> On 11/26/21 14:53, Jose Alberto wrote:
>> > RMAN exports are hosted on the NFS server. And Bacula mount NFS
>> > peer-to-peer to tape backup.
>>
>>
>> If at all possible, it would be preferable to back up the NFS-shared
>> volumes using a file daemon running directly on the NFS host.
>>
>
> The best for RMAN backups would be to use Bacula Oracle SBT Plugin. It
> allows "direct" databases to tape saving together with incremental and
> differential datafile backups.
>
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Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Slow NFS (HPE StoreOnce 3620 VTL and NFS)

2021-11-29 Thread Radosław Korzeniewski
Hello,

pt., 26 lis 2021 o 21:32 Phil Stracchino  napisał(a):

> On 11/26/21 14:53, Jose Alberto wrote:
> > RMAN exports are hosted on the NFS server. And Bacula mount NFS
> > peer-to-peer to tape backup.
>
>
> If at all possible, it would be preferable to back up the NFS-shared
> volumes using a file daemon running directly on the NFS host.
>

The best for RMAN backups would be to use Bacula Oracle SBT Plugin. It
allows "direct" databases to tape saving together with incremental and
differential datafile backups.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Slow NFS (HPE StoreOnce 3620 VTL and NFS)

2021-11-26 Thread Phil Stracchino

On 11/26/21 14:53, Jose Alberto wrote:
RMAN exports are hosted on the NFS server. And Bacula mount NFS 
peer-to-peer to tape backup.



If at all possible, it would be preferable to back up the NFS-shared 
volumes using a file daemon running directly on the NFS host.


However, if you can't do that, then the best you can do is tune your NFS 
mounts for throughput as you have.  Increasing both rsize and wsize well 
beyond the default is standard practice to improve NFS performance. 
Also consider mounting with -o noatime, nodiratime (if supported).  File 
and directory atime updates don't really get you anything useful, and 
disabling them reduces overhead.



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Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Slow NFS (HPE StoreOnce 3620 VTL and NFS)

2021-11-26 Thread Jose Alberto
RMAN exports are hosted on the NFS server. And Bacula mount NFS
peer-to-peer to tape backup.

On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 1:14 PM Phil Stracchino 
wrote:

> On 11/26/21 08:31, Jose Alberto wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > Adjust  mount.nfs -o rsize=32768  10.29.5.3:/nas/  /NFS/
> >
> > add-o rsize=32768
> >
> > Now Backup  rate  150MB/s
> >
> > Is this recommended, what am I doing?
> >
> > rsize is a value for reading
>
>
> This would be a recommended and normal NFS performance tuning step, yes.
>   Though backing up over NFS is still not recommended if you have a choice.
>
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Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Slow NFS (HPE StoreOnce 3620 VTL and NFS)

2021-11-26 Thread Phil Stracchino

On 11/26/21 08:31, Jose Alberto wrote:

Hi.

Adjust  mount.nfs -o rsize=32768  10.29.5.3:/nas/  /NFS/

add    -o rsize=32768

Now Backup  rate  150MB/s

Is this recommended, what am I doing?

rsize is a value for reading



This would be a recommended and normal NFS performance tuning step, yes. 
 Though backing up over NFS is still not recommended if you have a choice.



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Re: [Bacula-users] Backup Slow NFS (HPE StoreOnce 3620 VTL and NFS)

2021-11-26 Thread Jose Alberto
Hi.

Adjust  mount.nfs -o rsize=32768  10.29.5.3:/nas/  /NFS/

add-o rsize=32768

Now Backup  rate  150MB/s

Is this recommended, what am I doing?

rsize is a value for reading








On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 8:37 AM Jose Alberto  wrote:

> Hello. I have Bacula 11.X on Debian 10. Postgres.
>
> Currently I support an LTO8 tape library and a VTL (HPE StoreOnce 3620)
> emulating LTO5 for 10TB. Everything works well.
> The HPE StoreOnce 3620 also has NFS service. Which was allocated 4TB of
> NFS for Oracle servers (rman).
>
> The IP of the NFS is 172.16.2.5 The oracle servers mount that Unit. The
> data to be backed up is approximately 500Gb to 1TB.
> The backup transfer rate (NFS) is 5Mb / s, but if another native directory
> on the filesystem is backed up, the rate is 40MB / s, which means that the
> backup to the mount point is slow.
> Mount the Mount point on the same Bacula server. And the result is the
> same: 5Mb / s.
>
> The HPE StoreOnce 3620, add a peer-to-peer network port. 10.29.5.2
> (Bacula) dedicated network. and activated dedicated port in HPE StoreOnce
> 3620 point to point with 10.29.5.3.
> I thought this would improve as Bacula's mount point would be direct at
> 10.29.5.3. Unfortunately I have the same result. 5mb / s.
> Writing to NFS (dd if) is 100MB / s.
> Is it a topic of reading? or upload it?
>
> Regards
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[Bacula-users] Backup Slow NFS (HPE StoreOnce 3620 VTL and NFS)

2021-11-26 Thread Jose Alberto
Hello. I have Bacula 11.X on Debian 10. Postgres.

Currently I support an LTO8 tape library and a VTL (HPE StoreOnce 3620)
emulating LTO5 for 10TB. Everything works well.
The HPE StoreOnce 3620 also has NFS service. Which was allocated 4TB of NFS
for Oracle servers (rman).

The IP of the NFS is 172.16.2.5 The oracle servers mount that Unit. The
data to be backed up is approximately 500Gb to 1TB.
The backup transfer rate (NFS) is 5Mb / s, but if another native directory
on the filesystem is backed up, the rate is 40MB / s, which means that the
backup to the mount point is slow.
Mount the Mount point on the same Bacula server. And the result is the
same: 5Mb / s.

The HPE StoreOnce 3620, add a peer-to-peer network port. 10.29.5.2 (Bacula)
dedicated network. and activated dedicated port in HPE StoreOnce 3620 point
to point with 10.29.5.3.
I thought this would improve as Bacula's mount point would be direct at
10.29.5.3. Unfortunately I have the same result. 5mb / s.
Writing to NFS (dd if) is 100MB / s.
Is it a topic of reading? or upload it?

Regards


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