Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula Windows client using ntfs change log?
Zitat von lst_ho...@kwsoft.de: Hello List i recently read about the NTFS change journal and its aim to support backups in finding files for incremental backups. Are there any plans to maybe include such a feature in the windows client? I suspect this would be really helpful on bigger sized filesystems with a lot of files. Information about the NTFS feature can for example found here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363798.aspx Regards Andreas No one with Windows Clients, not needed at all, or is it just a dumb question? Any pointers are welcome Andreas -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula Windows client using ntfs change log?
Hello List i recently read about the NTFS change journal and its aim to support backups in finding files for incremental backups. Are there any plans to maybe include such a feature in the windows client? I suspect this would be really helpful on bigger sized filesystems with a lot of files. Information about the NTFS feature can for example found here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363798.aspx I've implemented this in an unsubmitted patch. The problems I found are: . takes a bit of memory to hold the data . it doesn't completely solve the accurate problem for any 'since' date unless you keep the complete log in memory rather than 'this file has changed' (although it would in the regular since-last-backup case) . bacula really needs to store the FRN in the catalog, which takes extra space Another idea I had was to cross reference the MFT vs the accurate file information. Enumerating the MFT isn't particularly quick, but it is orders of magnitude faster than actually traversing the entire filesystem looking for changes. If Bacula recorded the FRN and the last USN then a is file changes? would be straightforward. I can send the patch (against 5.2.0 I think) if you would like to use it as a starting point. James -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula Windows client using ntfs change log?
Zitat von James Harper james.har...@bendigoit.com.au: Hello List i recently read about the NTFS change journal and its aim to support backups in finding files for incremental backups. Are there any plans to maybe include such a feature in the windows client? I suspect this would be really helpful on bigger sized filesystems with a lot of files. Information about the NTFS feature can for example found here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363798.aspx I've implemented this in an unsubmitted patch. The problems I found are: . takes a bit of memory to hold the data Not sure what you mean. Must the changelog be hold in (real) Memory for some reason or is it simply related to the next one below? . it doesn't completely solve the accurate problem for any 'since' date unless you keep the complete log in memory rather than 'this file has changed' (although it would in the regular since-last-backup case) The accurate problem is the one with reappearing files on restore from incremental backup, no? But the deleted files are also logged in the change journal so we are at the same point as of now without the need to search the whole volume for changes in the most cases. . bacula really needs to store the FRN in the catalog, which takes extra space Would this be per Job or per File? Should be per Job, no? Another idea I had was to cross reference the MFT vs the accurate file information. Enumerating the MFT isn't particularly quick, but it is orders of magnitude faster than actually traversing the entire filesystem looking for changes. If Bacula recorded the FRN and the last USN then a is file changes? would be straightforward. I can send the patch (against 5.2.0 I think) if you would like to use it as a starting point. Nice to here that at least the idea could not be that dumb :-) Would be really nice to see and maybe a pointer to already happend discussion on the list. Many Thanks Andreas -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Bacula Windows client using ntfs change log?
Hello List i recently read about the NTFS change journal and its aim to support backups in finding files for incremental backups. Are there any plans to maybe include such a feature in the windows client? I suspect this would be really helpful on bigger sized filesystems with a lot of files. Information about the NTFS feature can for example found here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363798.aspx Regards Andreas -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
